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For those top students who are disappointed by rejections and probably experiencing academic "failure" for the first time, just keep a few things in mind:
1. Assuming you applied smartly (ie not just HYPSM) you will likely gain admittance to one of the top universities in the country.
2. Your college doesn't define you, it's what you make out of your opportunities, and believe me they are endless at any top school.
3. Even if you feel like you're "settling" by going to a "lesser" school than whatever your dream school was, chances are that you'll find a ton of people at that school that are more driven, more talented, and more intelligent than you. Don't underestimate the caliber of students at any of the top schools or else you'll suddenly find yourself an average or below average student.
4. Once you decide on a school to attend, forget about the rejections or other schools you turned down. Don't wallow in misery and bitterness that you aren't attending your dream school. If you give your school a fair chance, you'll probably end up loving wherever you attend. |
It's that time of year again, y'all. I know it's a little early, but people who applied EA/ED have already received results and I know that more places are sending them out every day, so here it is. Post where you got in, stats if you want, and see if any other TL'ers are going to be near you! The past year's threads really drove me to do better, so I'm excited to get this year's underway. GOOD LUCK EVERYONE!
Anyways, for me:
Accepted: University of South Carolina (Honors College, Nearly full tuition scholarship)
Tulane University (+Honors Program, half-tuition scholarship)
Rice University
NYU
Rejected: University of Chicago (Was deferred from EA)
Harvard
Princeton
Columbia
Cornell
Stanford
Waitlisted: Washington University in St. Louis
For stats: 2320 SAT (800 Math, 760 CR 760 Writing)
SAT2's: 790 physics, 760 US History 750 Literature
3.8 GPA unweighted, 3.9 Weighted
Rank 11/128 (barely top 10%)
Extracurriculars were slightly above average at best, but nothing spectacular.
White male from upstate NY
Plan on majoring in Physics.
Thoughts: Really thought I would get into WashU, but they don't ask for essays, which are one of my strong points. Will probably end up going to Tulane, as I really don't expect to get in anywhere else aside from NYU, but I'm still hopeful for Rice and Cornell. I really only applied to all of the super top-tier places because I had the money, and I've heard that it can be a crapshoot at the top so I thought I may as well take the chance, and I might be pleasantly surprised. So anyways, I'm bracing for a ton of rejection letters but I'm pretty happy with where I'm in already, so I'll be fine, and I could get lucky  .
Edit: Got into Rice. Super psyched about it, going to visit and will definitely go over Tulane. Still going to see where else I get in before I send a deposit or anything, but Rice is one of the schools that I would consider even if I got in everywhere that I wanted. Any TL'ers currently at rice?
Edit: Well, it's over now. Things played out as I expected, I'm insanely lucky to have gotten into Rice and that's almost undoubtedly where I will end up. Advice to next years people would be to apply to as many places as you can afford. As this thread has demonstrated, the top universities are crapshoots if you aint done truly exceptional things in your high school career.
Past Year's threads (maybe find others at your school here!)
'10 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=116308
'11 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=204700
'12 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=324577
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Good luck! I hope you get into Columbia (hint hint)
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On March 17 2013 11:24 ampson wrote:It's that time of year again, y'all. I know it's a little early, but people who applied EA/ED have already received results and I know that more places are sending them out every day, so here it is. Post where you got in, stats if you want, and see if any other TL'ers are going to be near you! The past year's threads really drove me to do better, so I'm excited to get this year's underway. GOOD LUCK EVERYONE! Anyways, for me: Accepted: University of South Carolina (Honors College, Nearly full tuition scholarship) Tulane University (+Honors Program, half-tuition scholarship) Rejected: University of Chicago (Was deferred from EA) Waitlisted: Washington University in St. Louis Waiting: Harvard Stanford Columbia Cornell NYU Princeton Rice For stats: 2320 SAT (800 Math, 760 CR 760 Writing) SAT2's: 790 physics, 760 US History 750 Literature 3.8 GPA unweighted, 3.9 Weighted Rank 11/128 (barely top 10%) Extracurriculars were slightly above average at best, but nothing spectacular. White male from upstate NY Plan on majoring in Physics. Thoughts: Really thought I would get into WashU, but they don't ask for essays, which are one of my strong points. Will probably end up going to Tulane, as I really don't expect to get in anywhere else aside from NYU, but I'm still hopeful for Rice and Cornell. I really only applied to all of the super top-tier places because I had the money, and I've heard that it can be a crapshoot at the top so I thought I may as well take the chance, and I might be pleasantly surprised. So anyways, I'm bracing for a ton of rejection letters but I'm pretty happy with where I'm in already, so I'll be fine, and I could get lucky . Past Year's threads (maybe find others at your school here!) '10 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=116308'11 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=204700'12 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=324577
Nice, looks like you got a highly competitive application. The only thing it looks like you could use some work on is not being a white male.
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To the above, could be worse. You could be an Asian male. xD
Good luck!
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you have a very impressive application is for damn sure
edit: lol at the first guy who replied
you applied mostly to schools from my general region, where did you go to high school?
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Finished my 2 years of community college, got accepted to Parks School at Ithaca College with a 15k scholarship per year!
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Good luck to everyone who is finding out where they'll be spending the next four years of their lives. The most important thing is to remember while it may be a new beginning, to a large extent it is up to you if that means change. If you made the most of your high school years, I think you will make the most of college as well. Don't expect to be happy all the time (there will be ups and downs, but when we're in one we forget the other), and maybe you will take the first semester to adjust to things.
Now, I'm getting a little ahead of myself.
Don't sweat decisions too much. A lot of kids here I expect are very qualified and very smart with varying levels of ambition. Depending on the last of those, rejection/acceptance will mean different things. A rejection (or acceptance) is not a judgement of you as a person, but a much more complex decision based on what you have to offer, but also what the school needs (or rather, wants). Does that sound like what's on a rejection letter? Yes it does, and it is true. Did I have a better GPA and SAT/ACT and maybe better extra-curriculars than some kid who got the letter I wanted (note: past tense) from Harvard? Yes. But he had something I didn't.
Ultimately at the highest level unless you've done something truly special with your life, you can flip a coin. Heads you get in, tails you don't. Of course its more complex, but you can think of it that way. You did your best, but its still a crapshoot. So, don't take it too personally or too hard. You will probably be happy wherever you end up. Make the most of it. Seriously. College is a big place with lots of things to do. Don't be that girl that got rejected from UT, blamed it on affirmative action and spent the next 4 years at LSU pissed off about it.
My story:
+ Show Spoiler +
I did pretty well for myself two years ago-- Hopkins, Brown, Chicago, Rice and Emory. I chose Emory for the money, though its kind of a funny story. I had a very bad AP English Lit teacher, so I would always skip the beginning of class and go to the counselor's office to get candy. One day, my counselor tells me "you can't get candy unless you apply for Emory Scholars". I want candy, so I agree to apply for this school I've barely heard of. The app is due November X, I figure I'll do it November X-1. Unfortunately that day, I have a big Chem lap write up to do, so I do that instead-- guess I'm not applying to Emory.
Well the nest day, Chem teacher is absent and we get the double-block (3 hours off). So in that 3 hours plus part of lunchtime, I do my entire application. I get semi-finalist, then finalist, which I turn down. I was vice-president of MAO (you high schoolers might remember that) and we had State Convention during the interview for Scholars finalists-- I chose that over a potential full scholarship. In retrospect not the brightest decision, but I had 4 years of loyalty to MAO, and I hadn't heard back from most schools yet either.
Well, all the other schools I got into (except Tulane) wanted me to pay like 50K with"loans" (full need met with a loan, my ass). Emory still gave me a decent pile of money, so I went there. It's been quite a ride so far, but hey that's life.
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applied to one place, got in. least exciting story exer
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Its a look at me and how smart I am thread!
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I had originally intended going to University of Michigan, but I received a full tuition (and an additional 2,500/yr) scholarship to the University of Alabama. I have absolutely no money saved for college, so it sure beats over 100k in loans if I were to have went to UMich.
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On March 17 2013 12:19 Grimmyman123 wrote:
Its a look at me and how smart I am thread!
Thats what I thought too. Pretty sure we alrdy have a college acceptance thread anyway.
edit: My bad. Looks like we make a thread each year dedicated to that year's acceptance. Carry on!
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Meh we are currently living in a society where the mediocre are celebrated and encouraged while the people who actually did something and worked hard have to hide their accomplishments in fear of the scorn from people who were too lazy to do anything.
I support this thread, best of luck OP hope you get in.
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On March 17 2013 12:19 Grimmyman123 wrote:
Its a look at me and how smart I am thread!
there's always someone like this every year
kids worked hard for 4 years to gain these acceptances. let them have their 15 minutes of fame.
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On March 17 2013 12:19 Grimmyman123 wrote:
Its a look at me and how smart I am thread!
Nothing wrong with a little pride, man. Let people be excited about the completely new life they'll be starting in less than 6 months from now.
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On March 17 2013 12:19 Grimmyman123 wrote:
Its a look at me and how smart I am thread!
I hate the type of uber-pretentious people that you'll find on collegeconfidential as much as I'm sure you do, but each year on TL this thread happens, and we see where people we chill with online are going to school. Last year's thread really inspired me to work harder to get where I am, and I hope to do the same for others. Also, yes, posting in the thread can make people who worked very hard for 4 years feel good about themselves.
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Good luck. I got wait-listed at UChicago. I'm hoping for UC Berkeley and Reed, and I got accepted to New College of Florida with half-off tuition.
My SATs are 770 reading, 730 math, and 690 writing, and my weighted GPA is a smidgen over 4.0.
I have decent to above average extracurriculars, and I sent in a music supplement to some of the schools I applied to. My big weakness is that during junior year I read books instead of doing math homework, so I wound up with a C+ in precalc.
Edit: Accepted to Reed.
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All the best guys Went through this last year, I threw all my eggs in one basket (thank god I got it).
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does anyone have any insight if submitting an app to a college that does rolling admissions later then earlier affects your chances of getting in?
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On March 17 2013 12:25 LosingID8 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 12:19 Grimmyman123 wrote:
Its a look at me and how smart I am thread! there's always someone like this every year kids worked hard for 4 years to gain these acceptances. let them have their 15 minutes of fame.
I went back to school and busted my ass to learn the new curriculum, suffered as old course codes no longer applied, and smashed my grades with above 95% average of my courses taken and you don't see my boasting,bragging and showing off.
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On March 17 2013 12:34 FinestHour wrote:
does anyone have any insight if submitting an app to a college that does rolling admissions later then earlier affects your chances of getting in?
Rolling admissions or equal consideration dates are bollocks and are in as much practice as they are in the print on paper they carry as policies. I speak from intimate knowledge.
Colleges process applications as they receive the applications, real time.
As for high demand schools and courses, a minimum standard is set for existing statistics, and the spaces are filled as applications which meet these criteria are received.
Be fast, do not delay.
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On March 17 2013 12:33 Meadowlark wrote:
Good luck. I got wait-listed at UChicago, hoping for UC Berkeley and Reed. I got accepted to New College of Florida with half-off tuition.
I'm waiting on berkeley as well, I applied to some other places as well but I don't expect to get in.
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On March 17 2013 12:13 ticklishmusic wrote:Good luck to everyone who is finding out where they'll be spending the next four years of their lives. The most important thing is to remember while it may be a new beginning, to a large extent it is up to you if that means change. If you made the most of your high school years, I think you will make the most of college as well. Don't expect to be happy all the time (there will be ups and downs, but when we're in one we forget the other), and maybe you will take the first semester to adjust to things. Now, I'm getting a little ahead of myself. Don't sweat decisions too much. A lot of kids here I expect are very qualified and very smart with varying levels of ambition. Depending on the last of those, rejection/acceptance will mean different things. A rejection (or acceptance) is not a judgement of you as a person, but a much more complex decision based on what you have to offer, but also what the school needs (or rather, wants). Does that sound like what's on a rejection letter? Yes it does, and it is true. Did I have a better GPA and SAT/ACT and maybe better extra-curriculars than some kid who got the letter I wanted (note: past tense) from Harvard? Yes. But he had something I didn't. Ultimately at the highest level unless you've done something truly special with your life, you can flip a coin. Heads you get in, tails you don't. Of course its more complex, but you can think of it that way. You did your best, but its still a crapshoot. So, don't take it too personally or too hard. You will probably be happy wherever you end up. Make the most of it. Seriously. College is a big place with lots of things to do. Don't be that girl that got rejected from UT, blamed it on affirmative action and spent the next 4 years at LSU pissed off about it. My story: + Show Spoiler +
I did pretty well for myself two years ago-- Hopkins, Brown, Chicago, Rice and Emory. I chose Emory for the money, though its kind of a funny story. I had a very bad AP English Lit teacher, so I would always skip the beginning of class and go to the counselor's office to get candy. One day, my counselor tells me "you can't get candy unless you apply for Emory Scholars". I want candy, so I agree to apply for this school I've barely heard of. The app is due November X, I figure I'll do it November X-1. Unfortunately that day, I have a big Chem lap write up to do, so I do that instead-- guess I'm not applying to Emory.
Well the nest day, Chem teacher is absent and we get the double-block (3 hours off). So in that 3 hours plus part of lunchtime, I do my entire application. I get semi-finalist, then finalist, which I turn down. I was vice-president of MAO (you high schoolers might remember that) and we had State Convention during the interview for Scholars finalists-- I chose that over a potential full scholarship. In retrospect not the brightest decision, but I had 4 years of loyalty to MAO, and I hadn't heard back from most schools yet either.
Well, all the other schools I got into (except Tulane) wanted me to pay like 50K with"loans" (full need met with a loan, my ass). Emory still gave me a decent pile of money, so I went there. It's been quite a ride so far, but hey that's life.
Really this
Dont compare yourself to others. Be happy where you got in, and if you didn't get where you want, it's not because you failed. It's just not meant to be
99.99% of it is how you make your experience.
Congrats. It's a great time in your life. Be happy - you're the future. Visit the campuses, figure put which one calls to you, and be humble
That said, if you were accepted to Illinois, send me a PM
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On March 17 2013 12:36 Grimmyman123 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 12:25 LosingID8 wrote:On March 17 2013 12:19 Grimmyman123 wrote:
Its a look at me and how smart I am thread! there's always someone like this every year kids worked hard for 4 years to gain these acceptances. let them have their 15 minutes of fame. I went back to school and busted my ass to learn the new curriculum, suffered as old course codes no longer applied, and smashed my grades with above 95% average of my courses taken and you don't see my boasting,bragging and showing off.
you just did brah
but in all seriousness if you have problems with people being proud of the results of their hard work over the past 4 years, i don't know what to say. TL is full of many bright individuals from all over the world, and this thread is an annual tradition. if you don't like this sort of "bragging", then you shouldn't have clicked a thread entitled "College Acceptance Thread '13"
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@OP:
ew, WashU. don't go there, its gross. (i kid, i feel like i probably would have gone there had i applied.)
On March 17 2013 12:36 Grimmyman123 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 12:25 LosingID8 wrote:On March 17 2013 12:19 Grimmyman123 wrote:
Its a look at me and how smart I am thread! there's always someone like this every year kids worked hard for 4 years to gain these acceptances. let them have their 15 minutes of fame. I went back to school and busted my ass to learn the new curriculum, suffered as old course codes no longer applied, and smashed my grades with above 95% average of my courses taken and you don't see my boasting,bragging and showing off.
i see wat u did thar
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On March 17 2013 12:41 LosingID8 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 12:36 Grimmyman123 wrote:On March 17 2013 12:25 LosingID8 wrote:On March 17 2013 12:19 Grimmyman123 wrote:
Its a look at me and how smart I am thread! there's always someone like this every year kids worked hard for 4 years to gain these acceptances. let them have their 15 minutes of fame. I went back to school and busted my ass to learn the new curriculum, suffered as old course codes no longer applied, and smashed my grades with above 95% average of my courses taken and you don't see my boasting,bragging and showing off. you just did brah but in all seriousness if you have problems with people being proud of the results of their hard work over the past 4 years, i don't know what to say. TL is full of many bright individuals from all over the world, and this thread is an annual tradition. if you don't like this sort of "bragging", then you shouldn't have clicked a thread entitled "College Acceptance Thread '13"
thanks brah (you from hawaii or watch too much Dog the bounty hunter?)
and I dont start threads for the sole purpose of bragging. Thanks though.
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On March 17 2013 12:42 Grimmyman123 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 12:41 LosingID8 wrote:On March 17 2013 12:36 Grimmyman123 wrote:On March 17 2013 12:25 LosingID8 wrote:On March 17 2013 12:19 Grimmyman123 wrote:
Its a look at me and how smart I am thread! there's always someone like this every year kids worked hard for 4 years to gain these acceptances. let them have their 15 minutes of fame. I went back to school and busted my ass to learn the new curriculum, suffered as old course codes no longer applied, and smashed my grades with above 95% average of my courses taken and you don't see my boasting,bragging and showing off. you just did brah but in all seriousness if you have problems with people being proud of the results of their hard work over the past 4 years, i don't know what to say. TL is full of many bright individuals from all over the world, and this thread is an annual tradition. if you don't like this sort of "bragging", then you shouldn't have clicked a thread entitled "College Acceptance Thread '13" thanks brah (you from hawaii or watch too much Dog the bounty hunter?) and I dont start threads for the sole purpose of bragging. Thanks though.
I find the OP very informative. It gives future people a benchmark on what they must achieve if they want to reach their goals. What you see as "bragging" I see a reality check for all the low achievers on what they really need to accomplish.
It's useful as well, too many OWS kids like to bitch about their economic conditions... and then you read their resumes.
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On March 17 2013 12:42 Grimmyman123 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 12:41 LosingID8 wrote:On March 17 2013 12:36 Grimmyman123 wrote:On March 17 2013 12:25 LosingID8 wrote:On March 17 2013 12:19 Grimmyman123 wrote:
Its a look at me and how smart I am thread! there's always someone like this every year kids worked hard for 4 years to gain these acceptances. let them have their 15 minutes of fame. I went back to school and busted my ass to learn the new curriculum, suffered as old course codes no longer applied, and smashed my grades with above 95% average of my courses taken and you don't see my boasting,bragging and showing off. you just did brah but in all seriousness if you have problems with people being proud of the results of their hard work over the past 4 years, i don't know what to say. TL is full of many bright individuals from all over the world, and this thread is an annual tradition. if you don't like this sort of "bragging", then you shouldn't have clicked a thread entitled "College Acceptance Thread '13" thanks brah (you from hawaii or watch too much Dog the bounty hunter?) and I dont start threads for the sole purpose of bragging. Thanks though.
Why are you so convinced that the purpose of the thread was to brag? The college admissions process is something that many of us here on TL are going through, so what's wrong with us having a thread to talk about it in? If it bothers you just stay off.
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There is no need to provide the SAT scores etc etc etc. Acceptance to a good school is sufficient.
As for the argument of it being a measuring stick - Any person applying to a college is smart enough to know that an 80% average is insufficient for acceptance to Harvard.
I've been mistaken before though..... I know of a very good university, where VERY smart kids go. But for some reason they cannot cross a road without getting creamed by cars, regardless of how many stop lights, speed reductions, radar signs, speed traps, cross walks are set up. Go figure. :: shrugs ::
TLDR It doesn't matter if you got great grades. Good for you. You are still a teenager and know nothing. Don't brag about your highschool grades, because they mean nothing. Highschool grades will not help you get a higher paycheck (if you think so, try arguing that one to the HR department at McDonalds). Post your acceptance. Receive kudos. Shut up, carry on.
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Congratulations on all of your hard work paying off, incoming students. You're now ready to train in the finest universities who will mold your mind and prepare you for the exciting jobs of tomorrow in our factories, office cubicles, and debtor's prisons.
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Was wondering when I would see this thread pop up, thanks for making it, OP. Anyway, here are my results thus far:
Accepted:
-Brown (Likely Letter)
-Safeties
Rejected:
Caltech (applied EA)
MIT (deferred EA into rejection)
Waiting:
Other Ivies, Carnegie Mellon, UC Berkeley
Some stats of mine:
2260 SAT I (790 math, 750 CR, 720 writing)
SAT II's: 760 math II, 740 physics
GPA (weighted, 100 scale): 101.7
Rank: 3/~240
Several ECs relevant to my interests with decent positions in them.
Work experience beyond your "average teenager job."
White male
Intended major: CS
There you have it. Best of luck to everyone else waiting to hear back from schools. Congrats to those who already know what school they will be attending.
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So what are the rules of this thread? Just follow the OP's format?
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It's very interesting how different the USA system to get into college is from Brazil's. Over here public colleges are the best, and you get into them by taking a test, the ones with the highest grade get in.
Anyway, it's the greatest feeling in the world when years or hard work pay off, so it's fine to brag about it. Good luck to everybody.
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Welp, about time this thread popped up:
For me:
Accepted:
-University of British Columbia
-Keio University
-International Christian University
-University of Portland
Rejected:
Princeton (EA)
Waiting:
Other Ivies, Osaka University, Little Ivies, and other Safeties
Some stats of mine:
Shit SAT I (770 math, shit CR, shit writing)
SAT II's: 750 math II, 790 Japanese, 770 Chemistry, 800 US History
GPA: 3.9
Rank: 10/Around 200
Some 5s on APs
Intense Asian
Intended major: Pre-Law?
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I've gotten in to uChicago, Washington in St. Louis, Rochester, and Lehigh. Still waiting to hear from Priceton, Harvard, Wisconsin, George Washington, and Santa Clara.
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Accepted to Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute. Strangely enough, I first heard about them because that's where IdrA turned down a full ride scholarship to instead go play with eSTRO in Korea. I will be studying the really interesting, somewhat new field of bioinformatics.
Stats:
2190 SAT (790 math, 780 reading, 620 writing)
34 ACT (can't remeber specifics)
4.0 GPA weighted, 3.8 unweighted
Rank: 6/502
A metric fuckton of extracurricular activity
White male, Texas
Rejected:
Caltech
MIT
Waitlisted:
Georgia Tech
Baylor
Accepted:
Rensselaer
Texas A&M
Still waiting:
Harvard
Yale
Columbia
Rice
Stanford
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On March 17 2013 11:24 ampson wrote:Will probably end up going to Tulane, as I really don't expect to get in anywhere else aside from NYU, but I'm still hopeful for Rice and Cornell. I really only applied to all of the super top-tier places because I had the money, and I've heard that it can be a crapshoot at the top so I thought I may as well take the chance, and I might be pleasantly surprised. So anyways, I'm bracing for a ton of rejection letters but I'm pretty happy with where I'm in already, so I'll be fine, and I could get lucky .
Obviously I'm not familiar with the details of your application, OP, but given the information above, I think you could stand to be a bit more optimistic. You have a strong application. I'm at Cornell now after applying with much worse. You can be confident here at least, and honestly, quite hopeful for other places as well. Also come to Cornell because it's awesome. I know several physics majors here who are quite happy.
(I'm sure you'll be happy wherever you go but I am self-consciously trying to recruit as many TLers as possible! Muahaha)
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@glzElectromaster
If you are planning on attending law school do not major in pre-law. Rather, major in something like political science, philosophy, economics, or possibly even English.
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On March 17 2013 12:25 LosingID8 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 12:19 Grimmyman123 wrote:
Its a look at me and how smart I am thread! there's always someone like this every year kids worked hard for 4 years to gain these acceptances. let them have their 15 minutes of fame.
Well-said dude same for Juliette.
Reading these threads is always a little depressing though, seeing how beast so many TLers are. I remember there was that one guy (looked him up, OP of '11 thread) who seemed extremely talented and well-qualified, but got rejected from a lot of places. That was just one case too. In general there are so many super intelligent and hard-working TL members whoseem to get a lot of rejections which is really depressing; there are also a lot who get accepted like everywhere and I'm happy for them but it's still like dayumm so beast.
Also the reason for posting some scores and other info is just so that curious people might see where the accepted stood etc. Everyone basically knows that college admissions can be very crapshooty, but a lot of people are curious as to how other people were as applications. I really don't think most people here are bragging. I still feel bad when I see how amazing the people we have here are though 
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On March 17 2013 13:06 Brotatolol wrote:Was wondering when I would see this thread pop up, thanks for making it, OP. Anyway, here are my results thus far: Accepted: -Brown (Likely Letter) -Safeties Rejected: Caltech (applied EA) MIT (deferred EA into rejection) Waiting: Other Ivies, Carnegie Mellon, UC Berkeley Some stats of mine: 2260 SAT I (790 math, 750 CR, 720 writing) SAT II's: 760 math II, 740 physics GPA (weighted, 100 scale): 101.7 Rank: 3/~240 Several ECs relevant to my interests with decent positions in them. Work experience beyond your "average teenager job." White male Intended major: CS There you have it. Best of luck to everyone else waiting to hear back from schools. Congrats to those who already know what school they will be attending.
I would be surprised if you did not get into Mellon, and you should likely get into Berkeley.
But congrats on Brown, part of the 8-9% accepted this year! :D
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cool thread. here's my stats.
Accepted:
Harvard
Yale
Brown
All other super pretentious ivy league schools
MIT
Hogwarts
here's my stats:
SAT - Perfect score, but I'm probably going to take it again because I think I could do better
GPA - 4.1 (our school uses a 0 - 4.0 grading system, so I think that's pretty decent)
extracurricular activities - Class president, City Mayor, FBI hostage negotiator, CEO of a local publicly traded company, writer for the school newspaper
passed all AP exams offered by the public school system
Awards/Honors - Young Adult Academic Achievement Award, Medal of Honor recipient, Winner of the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize.
I think my application is just okay, but I'm going to talk with my college counsellor about how I can make it stand out a bit more, because I'm suuuuch an average student.
User was temp banned for this post.
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On March 17 2013 13:29 Tewks44 wrote:
cool thread. here's my stats.
Accepted:
Harvard
Yale
Brown
All other super pretentious ivy league schools
MIT
Hogwarts
here's my stats:
SAT - Perfect score, but I'm probably going to take it again because I think I could do better
GPA - 4.1 (our school uses a 0 - 4.0 grading system, so I think that's pretty decent)
extracurricular activities - Class president, City Mayor, FBI hostage negotiator, CEO of a local publicly traded company, writer for the school newspaper
passed all AP exams offered by the public school system
Awards/Honors - Young Adult Academic Achievement Award, Medal of Honor recipient, Winner of the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize.
I think my application is just okay, but I'm going to talk with my college counsellor about how I can make it stand out a bit more, because I'm suuuuch an average student.
yah man, I can recommend you a tutor for the SATs. Breaking the 2400 barrier can be tough...
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@Tewks
Your intention behind that post: to try to be funny, to start some conflict in this thread, and attract attention to yourself. You succeeded to some extent or another, but in reality your goals are quite pathetic.
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On March 17 2013 13:29 Tewks44 wrote:
cool thread. here's my stats.
Accepted:
Harvard
Yale
Brown
All other super pretentious ivy league schools
MIT
Hogwarts
here's my stats:
SAT - Perfect score, but I'm probably going to take it again because I think I could do better
GPA - 4.1 (our school uses a 0 - 4.0 grading system, so I think that's pretty decent)
extracurricular activities - Class president, City Mayor, FBI hostage negotiator, CEO of a local publicly traded company, writer for the school newspaper
passed all AP exams offered by the public school system
Awards/Honors - Young Adult Academic Achievement Award, Medal of Honor recipient, Winner of the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize.
I think my application is just okay, but I'm going to talk with my college counsellor about how I can make it stand out a bit more, because I'm suuuuch an average student.
I did my Hogwarts app but couldn't figure out where or how to send it 
Funny story, I actually knew a guy who got a 2400 on the SAT. He got like an 11 on the essay and missed some question on Verbal and retook it to prove to himself he could *actually* get a perfect. Great guy though, couldn't hold it against him.
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On March 17 2013 13:36 tr569 wrote:
@Tewks
Your intention behind that post: try to be funny, to start some conflict in this thread, and attract attention to yourself. You succeeded to some extent or another, but in reality your goals are quite pathetic.
I could say the same about your post, but I'm not going to because that would just be mean spirited.
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Always people derailing a thread that was started without that presumed intention. Either grumpy old man or horrible humor.
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SAT
700 english
630 writing
620 math
1950
GPA 86 (couldnt give a fuck about HS no matter how hard i tried)
Applied to a bunch of schools in the state university of new york system, because I live in NYC and its cheap as hell so I won't need any loans. I made every single one, but going to SUNY Geneseo because its the best one along with Binghamton.
Also the jelly people in this thread are funny, i commend you guys who actually made crazy schools
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I remember this thread! Really inspired me to do better in school several years ago. Maybe it will do the same for someone else.
Stats:
Rank: 22/562 (Public School, competitive, Texas)
GPA: 4.89/5.0 unweighted 5.32/6.0 (weighted)
SAT: 2380, 800 reading, 780 Math, 800 writing
Subject Tests: 800 Literature, 780 Math II
ACT: None
Extra-Curriculars: VP Band, VP Rotary Interact Club, Captain Academic Decathlon Team, Club Basketball
Awards: Intel International Science Fair, Texas Science Fair, Grand Award City and District Science Fairs, State Level Saxophonist, 6th Best in Texas AcaDec Tournament, Tons of AcaDec and Saxophone awards, National Latin Awards
Hooks: Summer Research Internship, Summer Engineering Internship, Summer Jazz Orchestra
Schools: MIT(Rejected) Caltech(Rejected) Texas (Accepted)
Waiting (Probably Rejections): Harvard, Princeton, Duke, Stanford(deferred early action), Rice, Vanderbilt
Weaknesses: Most of my awards were in Senior year so updates might not have come in time to influence decisions. Also I felt my essays were strong but maybe not. Kind of disheartening watching kids in my school get into Harvard or similar with lesser stats but they are- how should I say... Ethnic...
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On March 17 2013 13:57 Pinkie wrote:
Weaknesses: Most of my awards were in Senior year so updates might not have come in time to influence decisions. Also I felt my essays were strong but maybe not. Kind of disheartening watching kids in my school get into Harvard or similar with lesser stats but they are- how should I say... Ethnic...
Dude, I know that feel. Some of my friends worked so fucking hard since like middle school and got rejected from all of their schools despite being quite qualified... then you see on facebook a bunch minorities with much worse stats get in. That's kinda why Im glad I didnt try so hard.
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I busted my ass for four years learning two new languages and integrals in four space. I think I can brag a little.
WashU!!!!!!!
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On March 17 2013 14:00 WGdwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 13:57 Pinkie wrote:
Weaknesses: Most of my awards were in Senior year so updates might not have come in time to influence decisions. Also I felt my essays were strong but maybe not. Kind of disheartening watching kids in my school get into Harvard or similar with lesser stats but they are- how should I say... Ethnic...
Dude, I know that feel. Some of my friends worked so fucking hard since like middle school and got rejected from all of their schools despite being quite qualified... then you see on facebook a bunch minorities with much worse stats get in. That's kinda why Im glad I didnt try so hard.
yup that's life. Get ready to experience it all over again when you start looking for a job.
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On March 17 2013 13:06 Brotatolol wrote:Was wondering when I would see this thread pop up, thanks for making it, OP. Anyway, here are my results thus far: Accepted: -Brown (Likely Letter) -Safeties Rejected: Caltech (applied EA) MIT (deferred EA into rejection) Waiting: Other Ivies, Carnegie Mellon, UC Berkeley Some stats of mine: 2260 SAT I (790 math, 750 CR, 720 writing) SAT II's: 760 math II, 740 physics GPA (weighted, 100 scale): 101.7 Rank: 3/~240 Several ECs relevant to my interests with decent positions in them. Work experience beyond your "average teenager job." White male Intended major: CS There you have it. Best of luck to everyone else waiting to hear back from schools. Congrats to those who already know what school they will be attending.
ping me if you get in/ want to go to CMU. ^_^ gl.
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accepted:
Gateway Community college north haven campus
Bridgeport university
Hartford university
rejected:
Oxford
Harvard
Ole Miss
Colorado State
2.2 GPA
2100 SAT
Sell weed and write poetry and played tennis
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i love how people are mad about this thread. it's TL... elitism is our job. there's nothing wrong with people looking for other smart people who are about to head to college and for advice from people at those schools (or looking for recognition from other smart people not just the idiots in their hs's who are amazed they applied to ivy's).
You're doing something very similar browsing TL's forums anyhow. When you complain about the thread though you just come off like that 1 kid who thought he was really smart but "didn't try" and is now bitterly working at target/walmart/local restaurant but "could have gone to X if I wanted to". Those kids are the best. : p
anyhow i'm studying CS at CMU so to those of you interested in that/who applied to Carnegie feel free to pm me. CMU is a smaller school so you might not know anyone who went here and it's always nice to get extra feed back before making that final decision.
GL you all you future freshmen btw! I hope you get into the school you want (as long as you spread the gospel of ESPORTS).
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also suck it white people! KEKEKEKEEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKE
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On March 17 2013 12:34 FinestHour wrote:
does anyone have any insight if submitting an app to a college that does rolling admissions later then earlier affects your chances of getting in?
I'm pretty sure the early you submit the better it is.
On March 17 2013 14:09 hoot00 wrote:
I busted my ass for four years learning two new languages and integrals in four space. I think I can brag a little.
WashU!!!!!!!
is that UW or WSU in washington
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Just remember kids, this might be early and it might slip out of your mind during your break. But do NOT fuck up your first year, easy GPA boost and firms screen you by GPA which you will not recover for summer internships in year 2 if you fuck up.
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On March 17 2013 15:01 yandere991 wrote:
Just remember kids, this might be early and it might slip out of your mind during your break. But do NOT fuck up your first year, easy GPA boost and firms screen you by GPA which you will not recover for summer internships in year 2 if you fuck up.
on the flip side, if you plan on screwing up, better do it first semester. otherwise have a really good reason.
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I didn't have rankings back when I was in high school in california.
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>MysteryMeat1 I believe it's WUSTL, the one in the state of Washington you'd call UWash or UDubs instead of having the Washington before the U/University etc =P (not sure though)
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Good luck to everyone and hopefully you all get into the schools you want to get in to. Just remember, just because you got rejected by that one prestigious school, you will not end up a hobo. I know a few too many people who consider themselves failures because they didn't get in to the school they wanted to go to and even bad mouth the universities they attend.
Remember to work hard in college, but also to remember to have fun. Enjoy college as it will be one of the funnest years of your life. There probably won't be a time in your life where you will have as much drive, energy, and time. Success isn't defined by the school that you went to, it's how you lived your life.
tl;dr - Work hard, play hard
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Good luck guys, most important advice I can give you is be social and make friends in your first year.
On March 17 2013 14:30 thundertoss wrote:
it's TL... elitism is our job.
Elitism: Brony, anime and KPOP threads all on front page of general forum (no hate)
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Saw this thread last year and I got super excited/ nervous to post it this year. It's a shame that there aren't more legitimate posts here and a lot of pessimists trying to rain on everybody's parades. We worked 4 years for this, it's a tradition on TL, and I'm sure everybody likes to get a little reward for their hard work.
Stats:
Rank: Um.. our school (International Academy Bloomfield Hills) doesn't rank students o.o. But it is the 5th best public school in the US, #1 open enrollment high school, #1 International Baccalaureate school in the US, has been ranked #1 public high school in the US before. Other than that I guess I take 8 classes, 6 taught at the IB HL level ... with an average of 3-4 hours a day (and a bit more depending on how much you like to study)
GPA: 3.7 / 4.06 weighted (I've screwed up a lot of times in my high school career but I try my best at least)
Subject Tests: 680 World History, 680 Math 2 (kinda didn't study for both but that's my fault)
ACT: 33 / 34 superscore
Extra-Curriculars: President of Asian Student Association, FIRST Robotics Team 469, NHS, and Peer Corps (mentors incoming freshmen and gets them accustomed)
Awards: 2011 2nd place at the FRC (FIRST robotics competition) Detroit Regional, 2011 1st at FRC Troy Regional, and 2nd at World Championships Galileo Division (Losing out to the World Champion Team that year 2-1, Teams 254 and 111) 2012 1st at Waterford, Detroit, Troy, and Michigan State Championship, 2013 (so far) 1st at Detroit Regionals)
Hooks: 15-25 hours a week at Robotics, and our high school is really hard I guess...
Schools: University of Michigan (deferred and then accepted , probably where I am going so PM me if you go there or were accepted too!), Kettering University ($67,500 scholarship), Michigan State University
Waiting (Probably Rejections): Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Yale-NUS, uPenn, Stanford
Waiting: Kenyon College (I love History, like a lot lol)
Rejected: Columbia (The interview went on for an hour and a half but it wasn't meant to be) Early Decision, uChicago (I wrote a bad essay but it was to get it done for my parents)
Other stuff: I'm an Asian male, and ummm that's about it
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As someone who has applied to and gone through the process for undergrad, Masters, and PhD I just want to say I am glad I am done with this shit and Good Luck to everyone! I know how nerve racking it can be!
Congrats to everyone on their acceptances!
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On March 17 2013 13:36 ticklishmusic wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 13:29 Tewks44 wrote:
cool thread. here's my stats.
Accepted:
Harvard
Yale
Brown
All other super pretentious ivy league schools
MIT
Hogwarts
here's my stats:
SAT - Perfect score, but I'm probably going to take it again because I think I could do better
GPA - 4.1 (our school uses a 0 - 4.0 grading system, so I think that's pretty decent)
extracurricular activities - Class president, City Mayor, FBI hostage negotiator, CEO of a local publicly traded company, writer for the school newspaper
passed all AP exams offered by the public school system
Awards/Honors - Young Adult Academic Achievement Award, Medal of Honor recipient, Winner of the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize.
I think my application is just okay, but I'm going to talk with my college counsellor about how I can make it stand out a bit more, because I'm suuuuch an average student.
I did my Hogwarts app but couldn't figure out where or how to send it Funny story, I actually knew a guy who got a 2400 on the SAT. He got like an 11 on the essay and missed some question on Verbal and retook it to prove to himself he could *actually* get a perfect. Great guy though, couldn't hold it against him.
ahaha a few of my friends in high school actually sent out an email to all the seniors on college acceptance day telling them they had been waitlisted at Hogwarts. Except one sort of socially awkward kid they accepted. xD It was quite a convincing letter.
On March 17 2013 15:22 Aerisky wrote:
>MysteryMeat1 I believe it's WUSTL, the one in the state of Washington you'd call UWash or UDubs instead of having the Washington before the U/University etc =P (not sure though)
University of Washington (the state) is UW (prounounced U-dub). Washington University in St. Louis is WashU (prounounced just like it looks). Washington State is WSU.
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Ah I see, yeah makes sense.
The idea of a hogwarts acceptance letter is actually pretty funny, would make for an interesting senior prank actually!
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I'm applying to graduate school for an M.S. in Computer Engineering or CS (some schools don't have a CE program).
Applied:
University of Southern California
University of California, San Diego
University of California, Los Angeles
University of California, Berkeley
Accepted:
University of Southern California
(I can't afford that tuition though..)
Waiting:
UCSD
UCLA
UC Berkeley
Random details since everyone's throwing that in:
white male, fraternity gentleman, rock/metal/electronic superfan, etc.
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Good luck to everyone applying! Hard to believe that I made this thread 2 years ago...
I currently go to UC Berkeley studying EECS so PM me if you have any questions. I believe UC results come out soon (probably within the next week?) so good luck!
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On March 17 2013 17:25 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
I'm applying to graduate school for an M.S. in Computer Engineering or CS (some schools don't have a CE program).
Applied:
University of Southern California
University of California, San Diego
University of California, Los Angeles
University of California, Berkeley
Accepted:
University of Southern California
(I can't afford that tuition though..)
Waiting:
UCSD
UCLA
UC Berkeley
Random details since everyone's throwing that in:
white male, fraternity gentleman, rock/metal/electronic superfan, etc.
come join ucla, we need more sc players
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Good luck to you guys. The system is completely different here and you can attend pretty much any university if you did VWO(Top 20/25 percent of highschoolers)
I've been thinking about maybe studying at a good college in the USA because my sister does as well, but damnit, you guys have all these fancy extra curriculars and smexy grades. Almost nobody here does that stuff, because it's not necessary to get accepted. How is high school structered? When you guys say top 10 percent, are you the top 10 percent of the whole High School population? Because you don't have differing High School levels like we do. If so I might have a chance, seeing as how I am probably the top 10% of the top 20/25% grade wise and I can write some baller essay's if I have inspiration. A friend of mine got accepted into UCSB with 1860 for his SAT's, which seems like a great school, but he was a male model so that might've helped.
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On March 17 2013 15:41 eSen1a wrote:Good luck guys, most important advice I can give you is be social and make friends in your first year. Elitism: Brony, anime and KPOP threads all on front page of general forum (no hate)
As funny as it sounds, the anime discussion thread is elitist as fuck ;D
Good luck to all of you my american bros. College entrance in France isn't nearly as big an event as it is in USA it seems. Schools and universities over here are pretty easy ;D
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So i got into hertfordshire automotive engineering with motorsports
it is quite expensive...9000 pounds/year+living
shall i go i dont know :D, still waiting on edinbourgh
now i know how "fun" it is to wait for response
(i am in estonian uni as well, so that is no problem)
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Anyone thinking about going to Boston University or Oxford feel free to drop me a PM if you have any questions!
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On March 17 2013 19:22 inimenesc wrote:
So i got into hertfordshire automotive engineering with motorsports
it is quite expensive...9000 pounds/year+living
shall i go i dont know :D, still waiting on edinbourgh
now i know how "fun" it is to wait for response
(i am in estonian uni as well, so that is no problem)
Good luck to you guys. I've never filled in a form like this. I applied to university late, probably accepted because I was also paying 9000 pounds a year.
@inimenesc: If you want to go, go to Edinburgh because it is more reputable, although I would apply to a London Uni because everything is just so much easier to get (work experience, internships, student jobs etc). Edinburgh is fairly close to industrial Glasgow, so you might find work there, although it might be more attuned to shipping. And Aberdeen is where you want to go for oil.
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On March 17 2013 20:57 ke_ivan wrote:
@inimenesc: If you want to go, go to Edinburgh because it is more reputable, although I would apply to a London Uni because everything is just so much easier to get (work experience, internships, student jobs etc). Edinburgh is fairly close to industrial Glasgow, so you might find work there, although it might be more attuned to shipping. And Aberdeen is where you want to go for oil.
Well a lot of Estonians have gone toEdinburgh and i actually like Scotland more, so hurray!
I dont like London. after university i will come back to Estonia probably anyways, so it it more important for me to find jobs here in Estonia at summer time. Plenty to do here at Estonia
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Wow, the college application process seems to be really different than in Germany.
We just get in based on our performance at our equivalent to high school and sometimes have to take an extra exam.
If I understand it correctly, US universities seem to be mostly private, with ivy league being something like elite universities for people with exceptional SAT-scores?
I'm still not quite sure how it works, is high school a mandatory part of school?
In Germany, only about 50% of students go on to high school, while the rest just does an apprenticeship / trainee-program after 10th or 9th grade.
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Well, its for a UK uni, and I found out 2 months ago, but I gotta brag somewhere on TL, so here goes:
I got an offer from Oxford, Merton College, for Philosophy, Politics and Economics.
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Just a quick question from a german guy unaware of all details of/habits in the US education system: Seeing most posts in this thread, most of you guys apply for colleges nationwide, but there was also one guy who concentrated to California. So, how common is it to go "abroad" for a highschool graduate? Obviously, if you apply for the really big players (Harvard, Stanford, w/e), you probably will have to move, but what about the "standard" colleges? Is it considered normal or even mandatory to get out of your town, even if there is a pretty fine college around which you could perfectly apply to, or is it just you TL users here that strive out?
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I applied to JIBS (Jönköping, Sweden) for a masters programme. 116/120 TOEFL score and a bachelor's degree in Business Administration.
Unfortunately for me the Swedish admissions office doesn't have their English straight, so because of this I made a small mistake with my application and I'm now considered a late applicant. Signed up in December at the first opportunity for the course, all paperwork submitted 1 month before deadline. Got screwed because they cant write English :p
Well here is to hoping I get accepted anyway.
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On March 17 2013 21:24 MCDayC wrote:
Well, its for a UK uni, and I found out 2 months ago, but I gotta brag somewhere on TL, so here goes:
I got an offer from Oxford, Merton College, for Philosophy, Politics and Economics.
I got accepted to do PPE at Exeter college Oxford as well! Great to see other TL kids there! (I'm taking a gap year and only entering in 2014 though)
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On March 17 2013 21:18 kafkaesque wrote:
Wow, the college application process seems to be really different than in Germany.
We just get in based on our performance at our equivalent to high school and sometimes have to take an extra exam.
If I understand it correctly, US universities seem to be mostly private, with ivy league being something like elite universities for people with exceptional SAT-scores?
I'm still not quite sure how it works, is high school a mandatory part of school?
In Germany, only about 50% of students go on to high school, while the rest just does an apprenticeship / trainee-program after 10th or 9th grade.
One of the big differences between US education and European education, I think, is that in the US test results are much less important. Good SAT scores help you get into the schools, but are far from being the most important part of the application. There are tons of people with perfect SAT scores that get rejected from Ivy League or Ivy equivalent (i.e. Stanford) schools. Having good grades, writing good essays, and doing interesting things with your time are probably more important than acing the SATs. It's important to have solid SATs, but they don't have to be the best in the world.
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On March 17 2013 21:29 nekolux wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 21:24 MCDayC wrote:
Well, its for a UK uni, and I found out 2 months ago, but I gotta brag somewhere on TL, so here goes:
I got an offer from Oxford, Merton College, for Philosophy, Politics and Economics. I got accepted to do PPE at Exeter college Oxford as well! Great to see other TL kids there! (I'm taking a gap year and only entering in 2014 though)
In 2 years we need to meet up
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On March 17 2013 22:37 Meadowlark wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 21:18 kafkaesque wrote:
Wow, the college application process seems to be really different than in Germany.
We just get in based on our performance at our equivalent to high school and sometimes have to take an extra exam.
If I understand it correctly, US universities seem to be mostly private, with ivy league being something like elite universities for people with exceptional SAT-scores?
I'm still not quite sure how it works, is high school a mandatory part of school?
In Germany, only about 50% of students go on to high school, while the rest just does an apprenticeship / trainee-program after 10th or 9th grade. One of the big differences between US education and European education, I think, is that in the US test results are much less important. Good SAT scores help you get into the schools, but are far from being the most important part of the application. There are tons of people with perfect SAT scores that get rejected from Ivy League or Ivy equivalent (i.e. Stanford) schools. Having good grades, writing good essays, and doing interesting things with your time are probably more important than acing the SATs. It's important to have solid SATs, but they don't have to be the best in the world.
The Ivy League is actually a bunch of schools that used to be part of some football league back in the day... they're all pretty good schools, but I'd also argue somewhat overrated and a lot of their reputation is based on name recognition. The majority of good US schools are private, though there are some really good public schools and systems (like UC and UT), along with places like Georgie Tech or UVA. Private school costs ridiculous amounts of money, public is better though attending one from out-of-state can be pretty expensive as well.
College admissions in the US is based on four things: high school GPA (with some emphasis on curriculum and school ranking), test scores (SAT/ACT, SAT II's, IB, AP), extra-curriculars (what you do outside of school) and life story (who you are).
Most colleges you apply through via the Common App. You basically put all your information in there along with a couple recommendations from teachers or other adults and write an essay, then submit it to schools you want. You might do a supplement (a couple extra essays, etc.) for some schools, but that is basically everything a college will see of you. Some state public school systems use their own systems, and I think there's a couple of other application networks floating around.
Then you wait, maybe some of the more selective places will interview you and that has an impact on your application depending on how important your interviewer is and how good/bad you did. Finally, you get acceptance letters and you pick where you want to go.
"High school" is the main route for education in the US. Some people do get a job or go to trade school, but most people go to high school-- its not quite as prestigious (is that the word?) as in European countries.
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Some guy that was in a lot of my high school classes went to Harvard. He wasn't even that smart. He made up for it because of his athleticism, personality, extra curricular activities, and life story.
So yeah you don't need perfect SAT scores to go to Ivy League schools, but you better stand out among the applicants.
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On March 17 2013 16:00 Kevinshi3 wrote:Saw this thread last year and I got super excited/ nervous to post it this year. It's a shame that there aren't more legitimate posts here and a lot of pessimists trying to rain on everybody's parades. We worked 4 years for this, it's a tradition on TL, and I'm sure everybody likes to get a little reward for their hard work. Stats: Rank: Um.. our school (International Academy Bloomfield Hills) doesn't rank students o.o. But it is the 5th best public school in the US, #1 open enrollment high school, #1 International Baccalaureate school in the US, has been ranked #1 public high school in the US before. Other than that I guess I take 8 classes, 6 taught at the IB HL level ... with an average of 3-4 hours a day (and a bit more depending on how much you like to study) GPA: 3.7 / 4.06 weighted (I've screwed up a lot of times in my high school career but I try my best at least) Subject Tests: 680 World History, 680 Math 2 (kinda didn't study for both but that's my fault) ACT: 33 / 34 superscore Extra-Curriculars: President of Asian Student Association, FIRST Robotics Team 469, NHS, and Peer Corps (mentors incoming freshmen and gets them accustomed) Awards: 2011 2nd place at the FRC (FIRST robotics competition) Detroit Regional, 2011 1st at FRC Troy Regional, and 2nd at World Championships Galileo Division (Losing out to the World Champion Team that year 2-1, Teams 254 and 111) 2012 1st at Waterford, Detroit, Troy, and Michigan State Championship, 2013 (so far) 1st at Detroit Regionals) Hooks: 15-25 hours a week at Robotics, and our high school is really hard I guess... Schools: University of Michigan (deferred and then accepted , probably where I am going so PM me if you go there or were accepted too!), Kettering University ($67,500 scholarship), Michigan State University Waiting (Probably Rejections): Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Yale-NUS, uPenn, Stanford Waiting: Kenyon College (I love History, like a lot lol) Rejected: Columbia (The interview went on for an hour and a half but it wasn't meant to be) Early Decision, uChicago (I wrote a bad essay but it was to get it done for my parents) Other stuff: I'm an Asian male, and ummm that's about it
Current student at Umich. You should totally come here. I don't exactly know what you want to do, but we have a ton of really strong programs and the fact that the school is so large means that there is a ton of money floating around for even smaller programs. Short of Ivy league schools with huge endowments we have some of the most money and other resources available to do whatever it is you do best.
EDIT: can't type
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Got (conditional) offers from:
University of Manchester
University of Birmingham
University of Bath
University of Reading
King's College London
All for Computer Science / Software Engineering.
Still don't know which to choose, if any of you have experience with the UK unis, advice would be appreciated.
^^
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Waitlisted at UC Davis and SD. Kind of upsetting when i have better/decent stats compared to some people I know that got in.
UC GPA 3.95 weighted
SAT:2070
And some people I know got in with much less. But it isn't even the statistics, its that i know for a fact they did not try in high school and had bullshit classes. FUCK.
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This thread fucking depresses me, I got denied from Wash U. I've gotten into other places, but I'm really scared I won't get into where I want now.
EDIT: I got accepted to Oglethorpe, Puget Sound (with 1/3 off my tuition), Christian brother's university for pretty much a full ride, Rhode College for idk how much off. I'm waiting to hear back from USC, Claremont Mckenna, Brown, Stanford, St. John's (if they ever get my stuff lol since its lost in the mail apparently), Hofstra, John's Hopkins, Tufts, and Columbia. I have a couple other school's I'm applying to I think, but nothing noteworthy. I've written so many fukin essays lol.
EDIT2: On March 18 2013 02:24 noobcakes wrote:
And some people I know got in with much less. But it isn't even the statistics, its that i know for a fact they did not try in high school and had bullshit classes. FUCK.
I know how you feel. I know a guy that got into columbia, he went to my old school and took bullshit classes. I'm talking like fake school where anything that goes wrong his parents come in and fix it up so he has all A's by threatening teacher's jobs with their money. He got decent ACT SAT scores I think, and then he got into columbia straight off his school work and the fact his parents know the Lieberman's (the New York Political family, lots of money). I was fucking pissed, but it's not what you know, its who youknow.
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On March 18 2013 02:27 docvoc wrote:
This thread fucking depresses me, I got denied from Wash U. I've gotten into other places, but I'm really scared I won't get into where I want now.
Eh, I saw a survey somewhere that said that the vast majority of people who didn't get into their any of their top choice schools still report having a positive experience. So don't worry.
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I knew I wanted to go to Purdue, I got accepted. Not very exciting.
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I only applied early action and early decision.
Accepted:
ED (binding) Cornell School of Arts and Sciences
Wait-listed:
EA (non binding) University of Chicago
Academic Stats:
SATs: 800 critical reading, 700 writing, 690 math
SAT 2s: 800 Math 2, 740 Physics
I only took the SATs and SAT 2s once.
Weighted GPA: 5.55/6.00
Unweighted GPA: 4.14/4.30
Extra curricular activities: Average
Important Awards: Eagle Scout
Send me a message if you are also going to Cornell, I would love to meet more people.
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wow your sat scores are pretty amazing. Obviously you're extremely smart, how'd you end up with a 3.9 gpa? What kind of classes are you taking? Not trying to say that SAT and GPA are the same thing but my SAT isnt near that high and i managed a 4.2 GPA last semester.
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I stick out a bit here because I didn't apply to usual universities.
I applied to Art Center College of Design, SCAD, School of Visual Arts, and RISD. Accepted to all, with a 2.8 GPA but strong portfolio.
I got 16,0000$ a year from ACCD, 5,000 from SCAD, nothing from SVA, and don't know how much from RISD yet. ACCD is my dream school, but still can't afford because Los Angeles rent is too expensive ;____________;.
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On March 17 2013 21:27 hns wrote:
Just a quick question from a german guy unaware of all details of/habits in the US education system: Seeing most posts in this thread, most of you guys apply for colleges nationwide, but there was also one guy who concentrated to California. So, how common is it to go "abroad" for a highschool graduate? Obviously, if you apply for the really big players (Harvard, Stanford, w/e), you probably will have to move, but what about the "standard" colleges? Is it considered normal or even mandatory to get out of your town, even if there is a pretty fine college around which you could perfectly apply to, or is it just you TL users here that strive out?
It's funny you mentioned the term "abroad" because there's a national program called "Study Abroad" where students can apply to basically trade places with an international student for a specific period of time; 1 semester, 1 quarter, or even a year (which I believe is the most common), although I'm not quite sure on that. This basically makes it unnecessary to attend a college abroad straight out of the high school because you can just study abroad and have the best of both worlds. It's a really cool program. You can even study in Africa. I had a friend do a summer quarter over there and he loved it.
As for how far HS graduates are willing to move? It depends. If they want to get as far away from their parents, they'll probably move cross state (lol), although there's two types of tuition, mainly; in-state and out-of-state, and if you're not considered a resident in the state of the college you wish to attend you'll be paying double or triple the amount of tuition that in-staters pay for the same education. So that definitely has a big impact on how far students are willing to move. And also the fact that housing can be expensive, so many choose to commute from home. A lot of the colleges offer some sort of free or vastly discounted public transportation passes.
But yeah, I feel a lot of the TLers value their education and move to the best colleges. And that's pretty much normal. Everyone likes going to the best colleges, not just TL.
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Last fall, I was in a community college. I only applied for the University of Washington and nothing else. I got accepted.
Don't worry, I had training for another job. *Sigh* Could be working right now, but instead I'm taking on more loans...
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On March 18 2013 02:37 theHubble wrote:
wow your sat scores are pretty amazing. Obviously you're extremely smart, how'd you end up with a 3.9 gpa? What kind of classes are you taking? Not trying to say that SAT and GPA are the same thing but my SAT isnt near that high and i managed a 4.2 GPA last semester.
GPA is out of 4 at my school, I think that's what you're looking for.
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I have conditional offers from:
University of Cambridge
University of Warwick
University of Manchester
Durham University
and University of Edinburgh
All to study Mathematics or Mathematics with Physics, I hope to go to Cambridge or Warwick but the grades I need are really quite difficult to get !
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How are you all finding out decisions so early?
ED: Columbia-deferred
Pepperdine-accepted
Santa Clara-???
Carnegie Mellon-???
I graduated from HS in 2010 with a pretty bad stats and extra-curriculars. I've been in the Singaporean army which is why I'm only enrolling this year.
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On March 18 2013 02:49 Spiffeh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 21:27 hns wrote:
Just a quick question from a german guy unaware of all details of/habits in the US education system: Seeing most posts in this thread, most of you guys apply for colleges nationwide, but there was also one guy who concentrated to California. So, how common is it to go "abroad" for a highschool graduate? Obviously, if you apply for the really big players (Harvard, Stanford, w/e), you probably will have to move, but what about the "standard" colleges? Is it considered normal or even mandatory to get out of your town, even if there is a pretty fine college around which you could perfectly apply to, or is it just you TL users here that strive out? It's funny you mentioned the term "abroad" because there's a national program called "Study Abroad" where students can apply to basically trade places with an international student for a specific period of time; 1 semester, 1 quarter, or even a year (which I believe is the most common), although I'm not quite sure on that. This basically makes it unnecessary to attend a college abroad straight out of the high school because you can just study abroad and have the best of both worlds. It's a really cool program. You can even study in Africa. I had a friend do a summer quarter over there and he loved it. As for how far HS graduates are willing to move? It depends. If they want to get as far away from their parents, they'll probably move cross state (lol), although there's two types of tuition, mainly; in-state and out-of-state, and if you're not considered a resident in the state of the college you wish to attend you'll be paying double or triple the amount of tuition that in-staters pay for the same education. So that definitely has a big impact on how far students are willing to move. And also the fact that housing can be expensive, so many choose to commute from home. A lot of the colleges offer some sort of free or vastly discounted public transportation passes. But yeah, I feel a lot of the TLers value their education and move to the best colleges. And that's pretty much normal. Everyone likes going to the best colleges, not just TL.
Thanks for the reply. I was just wondering because I have the impression that most people here in Germany tend to stay in the vincinity of the place where they grew up, and if people choose to go away frome home, it's mostly for the adventure/growing up/getting out instead of choosing specific universities (but then again, we don't have really outstanding ones like Harvard etc. here).
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On March 18 2013 04:01 Deranging wrote:I have conditional offers from: University of Cambridge University of Warwick University of Manchester Durham University and University of Edinburgh All to study Mathematics or Mathematics with Physics, I hope to go to Cambridge or Warwick but the grades I need are really quite difficult to get !
I'm going to double major in Physics/Mathematics as well. You can do it bro!
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going to michigan tech in fall
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On March 18 2013 02:48 Deadlyhazard wrote:
I stick out a bit here because I didn't apply to usual universities.
I applied to Art Center College of Design, SCAD, School of Visual Arts, and RISD. Accepted to all, with a 2.8 GPA but strong portfolio.
I got 16,0000$ a year from ACCD, 5,000 from SCAD, nothing from SVA, and don't know how much from RISD yet. ACCD is my dream school, but still can't afford because Los Angeles rent is too expensive ;____________;.
Talk to DivinO and CreatorGX on TL!! CreatorGX goes to SCAD and DivinO is going there this fall, they could talk to you, not to mention you art students could just chill :D :D have fun with your choice, congrats~
On March 18 2013 04:02 madnessman wrote:
How are you all finding out decisions so early?
ED: Columbia-deferred
Pepperdine-accepted
Santa Clara-???
Carnegie Mellon-???
I graduated from HS in 2010 with a pretty bad stats and extra-curriculars. I've been in the Singaporean army which is why I'm only enrolling this year.
Some of them applied early decision/action. Also UK results are out earlier, and depending on the school, some places in the US also have decisions announced earlier. No worries and good luck dude!!
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On March 17 2013 12:24 yandere991 wrote:
Meh we are currently living in a society where the mediocre are celebrated and encouraged while the people who actually did something and worked hard have to hide their accomplishments in fear of the scorn from people who were too lazy to do anything.
I support this thread, best of luck OP hope you get in.
So true. It's as if America " the land of opportunity" criticizes those who take advantage of opportunities and finds ways to demonize them.
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I have got offers from:
Cambridge
Imperial College
UCL
Durham
Warwick
all to study Mathematics =D, hoping to go to Cambridge but you have to pass these STEP exams which are really difficult =/.
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So is this all undergrad? Or do we have any peeps here working on post grad applications? i.e. med school?
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On March 18 2013 04:59 Stefanovich wrote:
So is this all undergrad? Or do we have any peeps here working on post grad applications? i.e. med school?
Are there any TLers going to law school next year? I am almost done with my cycle, just waiting to make my decision based on scholarships/financial aid/etc.
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In Germany 95% of all students have to pay MAX 1000€ (absolute maximum mostly cheaper) per year to their university.
If you studie the first time u get something called BAföG(up to 670€ per month) for at least 2 years.
You only have to pay back 50 % no matter what, the other 50% are an interest-free loan.
You have to pay it back at the earliest 5 years after your first semester.
U jelly 'merica?
User was temp banned for this post.
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On March 18 2013 04:54 iKlutz wrote:
I have got offers from:
Cambridge
Imperial College
UCL
Durham
Warwick
all to study Mathematics =D, hoping to go to Cambridge but you have to pass these STEP exams which are really difficult =/.
Damn. Those look hard indeed. Makes me realize how much my Math education fails in high school. I'm definitely going to be brushing up my Mathematics during the holidays before going to college.
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On March 18 2013 05:03 Catix wrote:
In Germany 95% of all students have to pay MAX 1000€ (absolute maximum mostly cheaper) per year to their university.
If you studie the first time u get something called BAföG(up to 670€ per month) for at least 2 years.
You only have to pay back 50 % no matter what, the other 50% are an interest-free loan.
You have to pay it back at the earliest 5 years after your first semester.
U jelly 'merica?
In Malta, you pay absolutely nothing to get into university; you get 80eur per month from the age of 16 until you finish your first degree (if you fail, and repeat years, you don't get the money for that year). You also get a student credit card with 400eur to a maximum of about 1,600EUR every year to spend on books, laptops, stationery etc, from when you're 16 till you finish your first degree. It is not a loan, it's a grant, you pay nothing back.
U jelly germany?
On March 18 2013 05:03 OneOther wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 04:59 Stefanovich wrote:
So is this all undergrad? Or do we have any peeps here working on post grad applications? i.e. med school? Are there any TLers going to law school next year? I am almost done with my cycle, just waiting to make my decision based on scholarships/financial aid/etc.
I'm in my 5th year of law school, but law school starts from undergrad here. We get a Bachelor's after 3 years, and then we get to do another 3 years at the same university.
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On March 18 2013 04:54 iKlutz wrote:
I have got offers from:
Cambridge
Imperial College
UCL
Durham
Warwick
all to study Mathematics =D, hoping to go to Cambridge but you have to pass these STEP exams which are really difficult =/.
Just out of interest, what college at Cambridge? My offer is from Girton College, and yeah, I'm rather afraid of STEP.
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soooo guys
do you have any idea on how application for american universities works if you're not from the USA?
On March 18 2013 05:18 mikkmagro wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 05:03 Catix wrote:
In Germany 95% of all students have to pay MAX 1000€ (absolute maximum mostly cheaper) per year to their university.
If you studie the first time u get something called BAföG(up to 670€ per month) for at least 2 years.
You only have to pay back 50 % no matter what, the other 50% are an interest-free loan.
You have to pay it back at the earliest 5 years after your first semester.
U jelly 'merica?
In Malta, you pay absolutely nothing to get into university; you get 80eur per month from the age of 16 until you finish your first degree (if you fail, and repeat years, you don't get the money for that year). You also get a student credit card with 400eur to a maximum of about 1,600EUR every year to spend on books, laptops, stationery etc, from when you're 16 till you finish your first degree. It is not a loan, it's a grant, you pay nothing back. U jelly germany? Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 05:03 OneOther wrote:On March 18 2013 04:59 Stefanovich wrote:
So is this all undergrad? Or do we have any peeps here working on post grad applications? i.e. med school? Are there any TLers going to law school next year? I am almost done with my cycle, just waiting to make my decision based on scholarships/financial aid/etc. I'm in my 5th year of law school, but law school starts from undergrad here. We get a Bachelor's after 3 years, and then we get to do another 3 years at the same university.
i am indeed... ^^
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YO
IF ANYONE GETS INTO PRINCETON
COME TO PREVIEW AND VISIT STARCRAFT CLUB~
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On March 18 2013 05:21 Deranging wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 04:54 iKlutz wrote:
I have got offers from:
Cambridge
Imperial College
UCL
Durham
Warwick
all to study Mathematics =D, hoping to go to Cambridge but you have to pass these STEP exams which are really difficult =/.
Just out of interest, what college at Cambridge? My offer is from Girton College, and yeah, I'm rather afraid of STEP.
Jesus College. Hope to see you there aha =). Incidentally, what is your offer? Mine is 1,1 in STEP 2 and 3.
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On March 17 2013 14:00 WGdwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 13:57 Pinkie wrote:
Weaknesses: Most of my awards were in Senior year so updates might not have come in time to influence decisions. Also I felt my essays were strong but maybe not. Kind of disheartening watching kids in my school get into Harvard or similar with lesser stats but they are- how should I say... Ethnic...
Dude, I know that feel. Some of my friends worked so fucking hard since like middle school and got rejected from all of their schools despite being quite qualified... then you see on facebook a bunch minorities with much worse stats get in. That's kinda why Im glad I didnt try so hard.
Yeah, being a white male makes life so difficult...
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Congrats to all!
I was rejected EA from Harvard.
Waiting:
Stanford
Cornell
Northwestern
Amherst
Middlebury
Rice
Vanderbilt
Richmond
F&M
Dickinson
Credentials:
+ Show Spoiler +Pros:
-3.71UW/4.57W GPA (out of 4)
-IB Diploma Student
-5 years living abroad experience
-Bilingual
-4 year football player; 2X captain (led our team to first winning season in 13 years)
-3 year track&field 1X captain
-Studied for a month in France as part of the Tufts Summit European Center Program
-National Honor Society
-Foreign Language Honor Society
-5 AP GOV, 4 AP USH (as a freshman)
-Attend a minority majority high school (avg SAT score is 1540/2400)
-Football accolades (1st team all county blablabla 2X years)
-Great rec letters
-Very good essays (e.g - "Sleeping With Monks: A Personal Adventure")
-VERY good alumni interviews
-Helped out a lot at community events for the school, PTSA, summer camp, etc.
Cons:
-1940 SAT (made me want to kill myself lol)
-620 French SAT2 (i'm much better speaking than writing/grammar)
-600 Biology SAT2
-Caucasian
The one thing about the IB program, the classes are two years long. I had only had the first year of biology before I had to take the SAT2, so I had not learned neurobiology, hormones, etc. which show up very frequently on the SAT2.
The SAT really fucked me up. I see so many people with nigh perfect SATs, and SAT2s. It's really depressing.
I did many interviews, which only helped my apps because i'm an extremely personable..person. In fact, the Stanford interviewer said that he'd do anything in his power to help me get accepted. His family is legacy and he seems to be quite a successful alum, so i'm hoping beyond hope that I somehow get lucky and get accepted.
I'm trying to play football in college, which is one reason why I applied to 4 D3 rigorous schools.
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On March 18 2013 05:39 iKlutz wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 05:21 Deranging wrote:On March 18 2013 04:54 iKlutz wrote:
I have got offers from:
Cambridge
Imperial College
UCL
Durham
Warwick
all to study Mathematics =D, hoping to go to Cambridge but you have to pass these STEP exams which are really difficult =/.
Just out of interest, what college at Cambridge? My offer is from Girton College, and yeah, I'm rather afraid of STEP. Jesus College. Hope to see you there aha =). Incidentally, what is your offer? Mine is 1,1 in STEP 2 and 3.
My offer is AAA in any subjects, and then the normal 1,1 in STEP II, III, so similar to yours. How is your STEP prep going? I've been trying to do a couple of questions a week so far, but I think I should "step" it up soon. Some of the questions are really neat and interesting to do, but then I find there are others which just seem quite impossible at first glance.
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This thread makes me sad, so many genius and/or super-hard-working high school kids on TL .__.
good luck darthfoley, don't sweat it. SAT doesn't mean shit. It's great how scores aren't looked at over other (and ostensibly much more important) things in murica, you'll be fine. Keep us posted~
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On March 17 2013 12:36 Grimmyman123 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 12:25 LosingID8 wrote:On March 17 2013 12:19 Grimmyman123 wrote:
Its a look at me and how smart I am thread! there's always someone like this every year kids worked hard for 4 years to gain these acceptances. let them have their 15 minutes of fame. I went back to school and busted my ass to learn the new curriculum, suffered as old course codes no longer applied, and smashed my grades with above 95% average of my courses taken and you don't see my boasting,bragging and showing off.
you just did.
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On March 18 2013 02:08 packrat386 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 16:00 Kevinshi3 wrote:Saw this thread last year and I got super excited/ nervous to post it this year. It's a shame that there aren't more legitimate posts here and a lot of pessimists trying to rain on everybody's parades. We worked 4 years for this, it's a tradition on TL, and I'm sure everybody likes to get a little reward for their hard work. Stats: Rank: Um.. our school (International Academy Bloomfield Hills) doesn't rank students o.o. But it is the 5th best public school in the US, #1 open enrollment high school, #1 International Baccalaureate school in the US, has been ranked #1 public high school in the US before. Other than that I guess I take 8 classes, 6 taught at the IB HL level ... with an average of 3-4 hours a day (and a bit more depending on how much you like to study) GPA: 3.7 / 4.06 weighted (I've screwed up a lot of times in my high school career but I try my best at least) Subject Tests: 680 World History, 680 Math 2 (kinda didn't study for both but that's my fault) ACT: 33 / 34 superscore Extra-Curriculars: President of Asian Student Association, FIRST Robotics Team 469, NHS, and Peer Corps (mentors incoming freshmen and gets them accustomed) Awards: 2011 2nd place at the FRC (FIRST robotics competition) Detroit Regional, 2011 1st at FRC Troy Regional, and 2nd at World Championships Galileo Division (Losing out to the World Champion Team that year 2-1, Teams 254 and 111) 2012 1st at Waterford, Detroit, Troy, and Michigan State Championship, 2013 (so far) 1st at Detroit Regionals) Hooks: 15-25 hours a week at Robotics, and our high school is really hard I guess... Schools: University of Michigan (deferred and then accepted , probably where I am going so PM me if you go there or were accepted too!), Kettering University ($67,500 scholarship), Michigan State University Waiting (Probably Rejections): Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Yale-NUS, uPenn, Stanford Waiting: Kenyon College (I love History, like a lot lol) Rejected: Columbia (The interview went on for an hour and a half but it wasn't meant to be) Early Decision, uChicago (I wrote a bad essay but it was to get it done for my parents) Other stuff: I'm an Asian male, and ummm that's about it Current student at Umich. You should totally come here. I don't exactly know what you want to do, but we have a ton of really strong programs and the fact that the school is so large means that there is a ton of money floating around for even smaller programs. Short of Ivy league schools with huge endowments we have some of the most money and other resources available to do whatever it is you do best. EDIT: can't type
ummm does UM have a SC2 team, group? I like watching CSL matches from time to time
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On March 18 2013 05:44 Deranging wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 05:39 iKlutz wrote:On March 18 2013 05:21 Deranging wrote:On March 18 2013 04:54 iKlutz wrote:
I have got offers from:
Cambridge
Imperial College
UCL
Durham
Warwick
all to study Mathematics =D, hoping to go to Cambridge but you have to pass these STEP exams which are really difficult =/.
Just out of interest, what college at Cambridge? My offer is from Girton College, and yeah, I'm rather afraid of STEP. Jesus College. Hope to see you there aha =). Incidentally, what is your offer? Mine is 1,1 in STEP 2 and 3. My offer is AAA in any subjects, and then the normal 1,1 in STEP II, III, so similar to yours. How is your STEP prep going? I've been trying to do a couple of questions a week so far, but I think I should "step" it up soon. Some of the questions are really neat and interesting to do, but then I find there are others which just seem quite impossible at first glance.
Yeah I also need A* in Further Maths and AA in Chem/Phys, which was pretty harsh I thought aha, but I'm hoping that should be ok. As far as STEP goes, I've been pretty inconsistent, though I'd say on average I get through around 4 questions a week, thinking I should probably put a bit more effort in soon as well. I'm the same in as much that some questions I can't see a way in but sometimes if I leave the question and come back to it later it seems more accessible.
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I got accepted into st. bonaventure as a transfer student last semester and have attended since january 2013. I fucking hate it here. gonna transfer somewhere else for next semester
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On March 18 2013 05:43 darthfoley wrote:Congrats to all! I was rejected EA from Harvard. Waiting: Stanford Cornell Northwestern Amherst Middlebury Rice Vanderbilt Richmond F&M Dickinson Credentials: + Show Spoiler +Pros:
-3.71UW/4.57W GPA (out of 4)
-IB Diploma Student
-5 years living abroad experience
-Bilingual
-4 year football player; 2X captain (led our team to first winning season in 13 years)
-3 year track&field 1X captain
-Studied for a month in France as part of the Tufts Summit European Center Program
-National Honor Society
-Foreign Language Honor Society
-5 AP GOV, 4 AP USH (as a freshman)
-Attend a minority majority high school (avg SAT score is 1540/2400)
-Football accolades (1st team all county blablabla 2X years)
-Great rec letters
-Very good essays (e.g - "Sleeping With Monks: A Personal Adventure")
-VERY good alumni interviews
-Helped out a lot at community events for the school, PTSA, summer camp, etc.
Cons:
-1940 SAT (made me want to kill myself lol)
-620 French SAT2 (i'm much better speaking than writing/grammar)
-600 Biology SAT2
-Caucasian
The one thing about the IB program, the classes are two years long. I had only had the first year of biology before I had to take the SAT2, so I had not learned neurobiology, hormones, etc. which show up very frequently on the SAT2.
The SAT really fucked me up. I see so many people with nigh perfect SATs, and SAT2s. It's really depressing. I did many interviews, which only helped my apps because i'm an extremely personable..person. In fact, the Stanford interviewer said that he'd do anything in his power to help me get accepted. His family is legacy and he seems to be quite a successful alum, so i'm hoping beyond hope that I somehow get lucky and get accepted. I'm trying to play football in college, which is one reason why I applied to 4 D3 rigorous schools.
Is being white seriously a con?
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On March 18 2013 05:53 Kevinshi3 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 02:08 packrat386 wrote:On March 17 2013 16:00 Kevinshi3 wrote:Saw this thread last year and I got super excited/ nervous to post it this year. It's a shame that there aren't more legitimate posts here and a lot of pessimists trying to rain on everybody's parades. We worked 4 years for this, it's a tradition on TL, and I'm sure everybody likes to get a little reward for their hard work. Stats: Rank: Um.. our school (International Academy Bloomfield Hills) doesn't rank students o.o. But it is the 5th best public school in the US, #1 open enrollment high school, #1 International Baccalaureate school in the US, has been ranked #1 public high school in the US before. Other than that I guess I take 8 classes, 6 taught at the IB HL level ... with an average of 3-4 hours a day (and a bit more depending on how much you like to study) GPA: 3.7 / 4.06 weighted (I've screwed up a lot of times in my high school career but I try my best at least) Subject Tests: 680 World History, 680 Math 2 (kinda didn't study for both but that's my fault) ACT: 33 / 34 superscore Extra-Curriculars: President of Asian Student Association, FIRST Robotics Team 469, NHS, and Peer Corps (mentors incoming freshmen and gets them accustomed) Awards: 2011 2nd place at the FRC (FIRST robotics competition) Detroit Regional, 2011 1st at FRC Troy Regional, and 2nd at World Championships Galileo Division (Losing out to the World Champion Team that year 2-1, Teams 254 and 111) 2012 1st at Waterford, Detroit, Troy, and Michigan State Championship, 2013 (so far) 1st at Detroit Regionals) Hooks: 15-25 hours a week at Robotics, and our high school is really hard I guess... Schools: University of Michigan (deferred and then accepted , probably where I am going so PM me if you go there or were accepted too!), Kettering University ($67,500 scholarship), Michigan State University Waiting (Probably Rejections): Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Yale-NUS, uPenn, Stanford Waiting: Kenyon College (I love History, like a lot lol) Rejected: Columbia (The interview went on for an hour and a half but it wasn't meant to be) Early Decision, uChicago (I wrote a bad essay but it was to get it done for my parents) Other stuff: I'm an Asian male, and ummm that's about it Current student at Umich. You should totally come here. I don't exactly know what you want to do, but we have a ton of really strong programs and the fact that the school is so large means that there is a ton of money floating around for even smaller programs. Short of Ivy league schools with huge endowments we have some of the most money and other resources available to do whatever it is you do best. EDIT: can't type ummm does UM have a SC2 team, group? I like watching CSL matches from time to time
We do have a CSL team that I am technically on (or at least was last season). Generally they look for plat+ (mostly diamond) players for the matches so as a silver player I didn't actually play in any matches. I do wish there were more times when the team would meet and do stuff (like watch SC2) together since I've never actually seen any of the people on the team. In short, yes we have one, but I think it would be nice if it did more than just straight competition.
Also you should come for a visit if you haven't already. Seeing the campus itself is something else.
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On March 18 2013 06:05 Tenshix wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 05:43 darthfoley wrote:Congrats to all! I was rejected EA from Harvard. Waiting: Stanford Cornell Northwestern Amherst Middlebury Rice Vanderbilt Richmond F&M Dickinson Credentials: + Show Spoiler +Pros:
-3.71UW/4.57W GPA (out of 4)
-IB Diploma Student
-5 years living abroad experience
-Bilingual
-4 year football player; 2X captain (led our team to first winning season in 13 years)
-3 year track&field 1X captain
-Studied for a month in France as part of the Tufts Summit European Center Program
-National Honor Society
-Foreign Language Honor Society
-5 AP GOV, 4 AP USH (as a freshman)
-Attend a minority majority high school (avg SAT score is 1540/2400)
-Football accolades (1st team all county blablabla 2X years)
-Great rec letters
-Very good essays (e.g - "Sleeping With Monks: A Personal Adventure")
-VERY good alumni interviews
-Helped out a lot at community events for the school, PTSA, summer camp, etc.
Cons:
-1940 SAT (made me want to kill myself lol)
-620 French SAT2 (i'm much better speaking than writing/grammar)
-600 Biology SAT2
-Caucasian
The one thing about the IB program, the classes are two years long. I had only had the first year of biology before I had to take the SAT2, so I had not learned neurobiology, hormones, etc. which show up very frequently on the SAT2.
The SAT really fucked me up. I see so many people with nigh perfect SATs, and SAT2s. It's really depressing. I did many interviews, which only helped my apps because i'm an extremely personable..person. In fact, the Stanford interviewer said that he'd do anything in his power to help me get accepted. His family is legacy and he seems to be quite a successful alum, so i'm hoping beyond hope that I somehow get lucky and get accepted. I'm trying to play football in college, which is one reason why I applied to 4 D3 rigorous schools. Is being white seriously a con?
No! Believe me, I'm aware that being white in the US > other races. I just meant from a college admissions stand point. I believe i would have a better chance at being admitted to some of these if I were hispanic or black. I'm not complaining, i have no problem with affirmative action and whatnot.
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On March 17 2013 13:29 Tewks44 wrote:
cool thread. here's my stats.
Accepted:
Harvard
Yale
Brown
All other super pretentious ivy league schools
MIT
Hogwarts
here's my stats:
SAT - Perfect score, but I'm probably going to take it again because I think I could do better
GPA - 4.1 (our school uses a 0 - 4.0 grading system, so I think that's pretty decent)
extracurricular activities - Class president, City Mayor, FBI hostage negotiator, CEO of a local publicly traded company, writer for the school newspaper
passed all AP exams offered by the public school system
Awards/Honors - Young Adult Academic Achievement Award, Medal of Honor recipient, Winner of the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize.
I think my application is just okay, but I'm going to talk with my college counsellor about how I can make it stand out a bit more, because I'm suuuuch an average student.
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This is pretty much every other collegeboard thread.
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Accepted: Temple University Full Tuition
University of Cincinnati
Marietta College
Michigan State University
Rejected: University of Chicago
Waiting: Boston University
Syracuse University
Michigan University
Northwestern University
Stats:
2290 SAT (750 Math, 760 Reading, 780 Writing)
780 History SAT II
5's on AP US History and AP Macroeconomics tests
GPA 4.0 weighted
Rank 28/658
Extracurriculars: Swimming, Rowing
White Male from NJ
Planning an Economics Major
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On March 18 2013 06:28 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 06:05 Tenshix wrote:On March 18 2013 05:43 darthfoley wrote:Congrats to all! I was rejected EA from Harvard. Waiting: Stanford Cornell Northwestern Amherst Middlebury Rice Vanderbilt Richmond F&M Dickinson Credentials: + Show Spoiler +Pros:
-3.71UW/4.57W GPA (out of 4)
-IB Diploma Student
-5 years living abroad experience
-Bilingual
-4 year football player; 2X captain (led our team to first winning season in 13 years)
-3 year track&field 1X captain
-Studied for a month in France as part of the Tufts Summit European Center Program
-National Honor Society
-Foreign Language Honor Society
-5 AP GOV, 4 AP USH (as a freshman)
-Attend a minority majority high school (avg SAT score is 1540/2400)
-Football accolades (1st team all county blablabla 2X years)
-Great rec letters
-Very good essays (e.g - "Sleeping With Monks: A Personal Adventure")
-VERY good alumni interviews
-Helped out a lot at community events for the school, PTSA, summer camp, etc.
Cons:
-1940 SAT (made me want to kill myself lol)
-620 French SAT2 (i'm much better speaking than writing/grammar)
-600 Biology SAT2
-Caucasian
The one thing about the IB program, the classes are two years long. I had only had the first year of biology before I had to take the SAT2, so I had not learned neurobiology, hormones, etc. which show up very frequently on the SAT2.
The SAT really fucked me up. I see so many people with nigh perfect SATs, and SAT2s. It's really depressing. I did many interviews, which only helped my apps because i'm an extremely personable..person. In fact, the Stanford interviewer said that he'd do anything in his power to help me get accepted. His family is legacy and he seems to be quite a successful alum, so i'm hoping beyond hope that I somehow get lucky and get accepted. I'm trying to play football in college, which is one reason why I applied to 4 D3 rigorous schools. Is being white seriously a con? No! Believe me, I'm aware that being white in the US > other races. I just meant from a college admissions stand point. I believe i would have a better chance at being admitted to some of these if I were hispanic or black. I'm not complaining, i have no problem with affirmative action and whatnot.
Oh ok. I guess that kinda makes sense.
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On March 18 2013 05:03 Catix wrote:
In Germany 95% of all students have to pay MAX 1000€ (absolute maximum mostly cheaper) per year to their university.
If you studie the first time u get something called BAföG(up to 670€ per month) for at least 2 years.
You only have to pay back 50 % no matter what, the other 50% are an interest-free loan.
You have to pay it back at the earliest 5 years after your first semester.
U jelly 'merica?
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I pay 250 € per year, get 630 € a month for living, none of which I have to pay back.
Yet, if I read this thread, I really don't feel like the 'muricans should be "jelly", their university screening process seems much more thorough and personal and their elite-colleges have global renown.
I don't think you have those high tuition fees if you're not at some Ivy League college, I suppose standard colleges are, like most European ones, complete free.
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Accepted: University of Alabama (Honors College, full ride, likely choice)
Miami University
Waiting: University of Chicago (waitlisted, but I don't know if I want to go with all the horror stories I hear about there)
Carnegie Mellon
The Ohio State University
stats: 2200 SAT, 34 ACT - 1 season of Varsity basketball - 3 years of tutoring 4th graders + volunteer football coach - 4.1 GPA - rank 5/400ish - planned major: either Mathematics or some form of Engineering; white male from OH
On March 17 2013 12:22 BigGunsLenet wrote:
I had originally intended going to University of Michigan, but I received a full tuition (and an additional 2,500/yr) scholarship to the University of Alabama. I have absolutely no money saved for college, so it sure beats over 100k in loans if I were to have went to UMich.
Hey, are you a National Merit Finalist? I have pretty much the same deal going for me!
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On March 18 2013 06:28 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 06:05 Tenshix wrote:On March 18 2013 05:43 darthfoley wrote:Congrats to all! I was rejected EA from Harvard. Waiting: Stanford Cornell Northwestern Amherst Middlebury Rice Vanderbilt Richmond F&M Dickinson Credentials: + Show Spoiler +Pros:
-3.71UW/4.57W GPA (out of 4)
-IB Diploma Student
-5 years living abroad experience
-Bilingual
-4 year football player; 2X captain (led our team to first winning season in 13 years)
-3 year track&field 1X captain
-Studied for a month in France as part of the Tufts Summit European Center Program
-National Honor Society
-Foreign Language Honor Society
-5 AP GOV, 4 AP USH (as a freshman)
-Attend a minority majority high school (avg SAT score is 1540/2400)
-Football accolades (1st team all county blablabla 2X years)
-Great rec letters
-Very good essays (e.g - "Sleeping With Monks: A Personal Adventure")
-VERY good alumni interviews
-Helped out a lot at community events for the school, PTSA, summer camp, etc.
Cons:
-1940 SAT (made me want to kill myself lol)
-620 French SAT2 (i'm much better speaking than writing/grammar)
-600 Biology SAT2
-Caucasian
The one thing about the IB program, the classes are two years long. I had only had the first year of biology before I had to take the SAT2, so I had not learned neurobiology, hormones, etc. which show up very frequently on the SAT2.
The SAT really fucked me up. I see so many people with nigh perfect SATs, and SAT2s. It's really depressing. I did many interviews, which only helped my apps because i'm an extremely personable..person. In fact, the Stanford interviewer said that he'd do anything in his power to help me get accepted. His family is legacy and he seems to be quite a successful alum, so i'm hoping beyond hope that I somehow get lucky and get accepted. I'm trying to play football in college, which is one reason why I applied to 4 D3 rigorous schools. Is being white seriously a con? No! Believe me, I'm aware that being white in the US > other races. I just meant from a college admissions stand point. I believe i would have a better chance at being admitted to some of these if I were hispanic or black. I'm not complaining, i have no problem with affirmative action and whatnot.
Only Asians really get shafted...
If you want to put it in video game terms, Asian is like a x0.7 multiplier, white is a x1.0 multiplier and being a URM is a x1.2 multiplier (arbitrary numbers, but you get the idea). Apparently its so bad that a lot of Asians are choosing not to put down their ethnicity on applications-- I remember reading an article about it awhile back.
Jewish people also are pretty over-represented in higher education.
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On March 18 2013 06:05 Tenshix wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 05:43 darthfoley wrote:Congrats to all! I was rejected EA from Harvard. Waiting: Stanford Cornell Northwestern Amherst Middlebury Rice Vanderbilt Richmond F&M Dickinson Credentials: + Show Spoiler +Pros:
-3.71UW/4.57W GPA (out of 4)
-IB Diploma Student
-5 years living abroad experience
-Bilingual
-4 year football player; 2X captain (led our team to first winning season in 13 years)
-3 year track&field 1X captain
-Studied for a month in France as part of the Tufts Summit European Center Program
-National Honor Society
-Foreign Language Honor Society
-5 AP GOV, 4 AP USH (as a freshman)
-Attend a minority majority high school (avg SAT score is 1540/2400)
-Football accolades (1st team all county blablabla 2X years)
-Great rec letters
-Very good essays (e.g - "Sleeping With Monks: A Personal Adventure")
-VERY good alumni interviews
-Helped out a lot at community events for the school, PTSA, summer camp, etc.
Cons:
-1940 SAT (made me want to kill myself lol)
-620 French SAT2 (i'm much better speaking than writing/grammar)
-600 Biology SAT2
-Caucasian
The one thing about the IB program, the classes are two years long. I had only had the first year of biology before I had to take the SAT2, so I had not learned neurobiology, hormones, etc. which show up very frequently on the SAT2.
The SAT really fucked me up. I see so many people with nigh perfect SATs, and SAT2s. It's really depressing. I did many interviews, which only helped my apps because i'm an extremely personable..person. In fact, the Stanford interviewer said that he'd do anything in his power to help me get accepted. His family is legacy and he seems to be quite a successful alum, so i'm hoping beyond hope that I somehow get lucky and get accepted. I'm trying to play football in college, which is one reason why I applied to 4 D3 rigorous schools. Is being white seriously a con?
Relative to being anything else that isn't Asian, yes.
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On March 18 2013 07:09 synapse wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 06:05 Tenshix wrote:On March 18 2013 05:43 darthfoley wrote:Congrats to all! I was rejected EA from Harvard. Waiting: Stanford Cornell Northwestern Amherst Middlebury Rice Vanderbilt Richmond F&M Dickinson Credentials: + Show Spoiler +Pros:
-3.71UW/4.57W GPA (out of 4)
-IB Diploma Student
-5 years living abroad experience
-Bilingual
-4 year football player; 2X captain (led our team to first winning season in 13 years)
-3 year track&field 1X captain
-Studied for a month in France as part of the Tufts Summit European Center Program
-National Honor Society
-Foreign Language Honor Society
-5 AP GOV, 4 AP USH (as a freshman)
-Attend a minority majority high school (avg SAT score is 1540/2400)
-Football accolades (1st team all county blablabla 2X years)
-Great rec letters
-Very good essays (e.g - "Sleeping With Monks: A Personal Adventure")
-VERY good alumni interviews
-Helped out a lot at community events for the school, PTSA, summer camp, etc.
Cons:
-1940 SAT (made me want to kill myself lol)
-620 French SAT2 (i'm much better speaking than writing/grammar)
-600 Biology SAT2
-Caucasian
The one thing about the IB program, the classes are two years long. I had only had the first year of biology before I had to take the SAT2, so I had not learned neurobiology, hormones, etc. which show up very frequently on the SAT2.
The SAT really fucked me up. I see so many people with nigh perfect SATs, and SAT2s. It's really depressing. I did many interviews, which only helped my apps because i'm an extremely personable..person. In fact, the Stanford interviewer said that he'd do anything in his power to help me get accepted. His family is legacy and he seems to be quite a successful alum, so i'm hoping beyond hope that I somehow get lucky and get accepted. I'm trying to play football in college, which is one reason why I applied to 4 D3 rigorous schools. Is being white seriously a con? Relative to being anything else that isn't Asian, yes.
Easily outweighed by all of the other systematic advantages in life.
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On March 18 2013 06:05 Tenshix wrote:
Is being white seriously a con?
You have no idea. Being a while MALE also hurts some. They get shafted almost as much as asians.
I even remember reading an article about schools looking to accept students who didn't play musical instruments dominated by the asian population like piano and stuff. Schools are on a misguided mission to artificially create environments with super diversity.
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On March 18 2013 06:57 ticklishmusic wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 06:28 darthfoley wrote:On March 18 2013 06:05 Tenshix wrote:On March 18 2013 05:43 darthfoley wrote:Congrats to all! I was rejected EA from Harvard. Waiting: Stanford Cornell Northwestern Amherst Middlebury Rice Vanderbilt Richmond F&M Dickinson Credentials: + Show Spoiler +Pros:
-3.71UW/4.57W GPA (out of 4)
-IB Diploma Student
-5 years living abroad experience
-Bilingual
-4 year football player; 2X captain (led our team to first winning season in 13 years)
-3 year track&field 1X captain
-Studied for a month in France as part of the Tufts Summit European Center Program
-National Honor Society
-Foreign Language Honor Society
-5 AP GOV, 4 AP USH (as a freshman)
-Attend a minority majority high school (avg SAT score is 1540/2400)
-Football accolades (1st team all county blablabla 2X years)
-Great rec letters
-Very good essays (e.g - "Sleeping With Monks: A Personal Adventure")
-VERY good alumni interviews
-Helped out a lot at community events for the school, PTSA, summer camp, etc.
Cons:
-1940 SAT (made me want to kill myself lol)
-620 French SAT2 (i'm much better speaking than writing/grammar)
-600 Biology SAT2
-Caucasian
The one thing about the IB program, the classes are two years long. I had only had the first year of biology before I had to take the SAT2, so I had not learned neurobiology, hormones, etc. which show up very frequently on the SAT2.
The SAT really fucked me up. I see so many people with nigh perfect SATs, and SAT2s. It's really depressing. I did many interviews, which only helped my apps because i'm an extremely personable..person. In fact, the Stanford interviewer said that he'd do anything in his power to help me get accepted. His family is legacy and he seems to be quite a successful alum, so i'm hoping beyond hope that I somehow get lucky and get accepted. I'm trying to play football in college, which is one reason why I applied to 4 D3 rigorous schools. Is being white seriously a con? No! Believe me, I'm aware that being white in the US > other races. I just meant from a college admissions stand point. I believe i would have a better chance at being admitted to some of these if I were hispanic or black. I'm not complaining, i have no problem with affirmative action and whatnot. Only Asians really get shafted... If you want to put it in video game terms, Asian is like a x0.7 multiplier, white is a x1.0 multiplier and being a URM is a x1.2 multiplier (arbitrary numbers, but you get the idea). Apparently its so bad that a lot of Asians are choosing not to put down their ethnicity on applications-- I remember reading an article about it awhile back. Jewish people also are pretty over-represented in higher education.
Truth has spoken but then again, we are all aware of this.
edit: You can't have diversity when your demographics will be 75% Asian.
To the poster below, plenty of articles and documents stating that issue.
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Are you guys really serious about the colleges taking race into consideration?
I can't tell if you're jesting, but I can't believe that this would be legal or tolerated...
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On March 18 2013 06:38 kafkaesque wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 05:03 Catix wrote:
In Germany 95% of all students have to pay MAX 1000€ (absolute maximum mostly cheaper) per year to their university.
If you studie the first time u get something called BAföG(up to 670€ per month) for at least 2 years.
You only have to pay back 50 % no matter what, the other 50% are an interest-free loan.
You have to pay it back at the earliest 5 years after your first semester.
U jelly 'merica?
User was temp banned for this post. I pay 250 € per year, get 630 € a month for living, none of which I have to pay back. Yet, if I read this thread, I really don't feel like the 'muricans should be "jelly", their university screening process seems much more thorough and personal and their elite-colleges have global renown. I don't think you have those high tuition fees if you're not at some Ivy League college, I suppose standard colleges are, like most European ones, complete free.
I cannot speak for all universities, but the U.S. (and alot of other countries) has some pay-to-win universities and alot of professors there are jelly at our universities.
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On March 18 2013 07:14 kafkaesque wrote:
Are you guys really serious about the colleges taking race into consideration?
I can't tell if you're jesting, but I can't believe that this would be legal or tolerated...
It is and I think there are some lawsuits ongoing because of that.
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Waiting:
UC San Diego
University of Amsterdam
Utrecht University
University of Groningen
University of Melbourne
NTNU (not sure if I'm going to accept this one even if every other application fails, pretty much guaranteed to get in there though)
All MSc, which is normal to do after BS here in Europe. We don't go straight to PhD.
On March 18 2013 05:29 sVnteen wrote:
soooo guys
do you have any idea on how application for american universities works if you're not from the USA?
Yeah, what are you wondering about? Know most there is to know, if you're applying from Europe.
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On March 18 2013 07:17 Neneu wrote:
Waiting:
UC San Diego
University of Amsterdam
Utrecht University
University of Groningen
University of Melbourne
NTNU (not sure if I'm going to accept this one even if every other application fails, pretty much guaranteed to get in there though)
All MSc, which is normal to do after BS here in Europe. We don't go straight to PhD.
Actually, I know a girl from Latvia who did exactly that. ^.^"
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In Italy everything is different: you can join any university you want but medicine where you have to take an exam.
Furthermore, the costs are really cheaper here, a good University costs only 1000$ per year.
But i still prefer the American sistem, and i hope i'll be able to take a master in the US.
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On March 18 2013 07:14 kafkaesque wrote:
Are you guys really serious about the colleges taking race into consideration?
I can't tell if you're jesting, but I can't believe that this would be legal or tolerated...
There aren't allowed to be quotas or anything of that nature, but it is pretty commonly accepted that given a white student and a black student who are otherwise equivalent prospects, the black student is far more likely to get accepted to a college.
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I did not expect that.
Call me naive, but this really, really surprises me. Absolutely surreal...
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On March 18 2013 07:32 kafkaesque wrote:
I did not expect that.
Call me naive, but this really, really surprises me. Absolutely surreal...
Have you not heard of Affirmative Action? Its a relatively common idea in the US since there is a large African American population that has been historically marginalized.
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On March 18 2013 07:37 packrat386 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 07:32 kafkaesque wrote:
I did not expect that.
Call me naive, but this really, really surprises me. Absolutely surreal... Have you not heard of Affirmative Action? Its a relatively common idea in the US since there is a large African American population that has been historically marginalized.
That only leads to behaviours like "stfu, you are only here because of your gender / coulour / citizenship / etc. ..."
I have heard that some feminist even are against gender quotas.
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Cayman Islands24199 Posts
if you are good enough you'll get into a good school. the content of undergrad education is not that different, you can still get in good grad schools if you put in the work.
choosing to demonize minority students is something that would disqualify you from admission if exposed, probably.
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On March 18 2013 07:32 kafkaesque wrote:
I did not expect that.
Call me naive, but this really, really surprises me. Absolutely surreal...
But not quite kafkaesque, I assume.
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On March 18 2013 07:48 Saumure wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 07:37 packrat386 wrote:On March 18 2013 07:32 kafkaesque wrote:
I did not expect that.
Call me naive, but this really, really surprises me. Absolutely surreal... Have you not heard of Affirmative Action? Its a relatively common idea in the US since there is a large African American population that has been historically marginalized. That only leads to behaviours like "stfu, you are only here because of your gender / coulour / citizenship / etc. ..." I have heard that some feminist even are against gender quotas.
And I'm sure there are some black people against affirmative action. Just to be clear, the courts have set a precedent that universities (and I believe businesses also) CANNOT set quotas for how many people of each race they want to accept. Usually affirmative action is practiced just as a slight edge given to marginalized minorities, i.e. maybe a kids SAT scores are a little lower than most people that they accept, but he grew up in a disadvantaged neighborhood and has been disadvantaged because of his race.
There really isn't any rational discussion to be had about whether or not certain communities are disadvantaged, at this point its only a question of what we want to do about it. I think affirmative action to help combat the detrimental effects of racism and sexism is a perfectly legitimate approach.
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On March 18 2013 08:17 packrat386 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 07:48 Saumure wrote:On March 18 2013 07:37 packrat386 wrote:On March 18 2013 07:32 kafkaesque wrote:
I did not expect that.
Call me naive, but this really, really surprises me. Absolutely surreal... Have you not heard of Affirmative Action? Its a relatively common idea in the US since there is a large African American population that has been historically marginalized. That only leads to behaviours like "stfu, you are only here because of your gender / coulour / citizenship / etc. ..." I have heard that some feminist even are against gender quotas. And I'm sure there are some black people against affirmative action. Just to be clear, the courts have set a precedent that universities (and I believe businesses also) CANNOT set quotas for how many people of each race they want to accept. Usually affirmative action is practiced just as a slight edge given to marginalized minorities, i.e. maybe a kids SAT scores are a little lower than most people that they accept, but he grew up in a disadvantaged neighborhood and has been disadvantaged because of his race. There really isn't any rational discussion to be had about whether or not certain communities are disadvantaged, at this point its only a question of what we want to do about it. I think affirmative action to help combat the detrimental effects of racism and sexism is a perfectly legitimate approach.
Here is the thread about the Supreme Court case against AA, though its for all the wrong reasons... my view is that AA is all we have to combat racism, though the imbalance is such that it is more likely to help some black kid from a relatively privileged background get into a school rather than one from an actually disadvantaged one.
(oh hey, that thread was started by same guy as this one)
There was an article in the NYTimes today (or recently?) about how high achieving low income students choose local or public universities instead of the so-called "elite" ones as well because of finances. What the author neglected to mention is that financial aid is a joke-- "fully met need" usually means they'll give you a couple grand merit aid, and then like 20K+ in loans per semester. I find it ridiculous that giving a loan counts as "aid"-- it's money you have to pay back later at a higher price. At least for me, that's pretty hard to swallow.
Anyways, in higher education schools often have unofficial "soft" quotas. They set a goal for what kind of composition that they want the incoming class to be-- characteristics like geography, ethnicity, majors, etc. They may go over-under a bit for some kids, but generally that's how its determined.
Try not to derail the thread anymore though (._.)
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On March 18 2013 05:43 darthfoley wrote:Congrats to all! I was rejected EA from Harvard. Waiting: Stanford Cornell Northwestern Amherst Middlebury Rice Vanderbilt Richmond F&M Dickinson Credentials: + Show Spoiler +Pros:
-3.71UW/4.57W GPA (out of 4)
-IB Diploma Student
-5 years living abroad experience
-Bilingual
-4 year football player; 2X captain (led our team to first winning season in 13 years)
-3 year track&field 1X captain
-Studied for a month in France as part of the Tufts Summit European Center Program
-National Honor Society
-Foreign Language Honor Society
-5 AP GOV, 4 AP USH (as a freshman)
-Attend a minority majority high school (avg SAT score is 1540/2400)
-Football accolades (1st team all county blablabla 2X years)
-Great rec letters
-Very good essays (e.g - "Sleeping With Monks: A Personal Adventure")
-VERY good alumni interviews
-Helped out a lot at community events for the school, PTSA, summer camp, etc.
Cons:
-1940 SAT (made me want to kill myself lol)
-620 French SAT2 (i'm much better speaking than writing/grammar)
-600 Biology SAT2
-Caucasian
The one thing about the IB program, the classes are two years long. I had only had the first year of biology before I had to take the SAT2, so I had not learned neurobiology, hormones, etc. which show up very frequently on the SAT2.
The SAT really fucked me up. I see so many people with nigh perfect SATs, and SAT2s. It's really depressing. I did many interviews, which only helped my apps because i'm an extremely personable..person. In fact, the Stanford interviewer said that he'd do anything in his power to help me get accepted. His family is legacy and he seems to be quite a successful alum, so i'm hoping beyond hope that I somehow get lucky and get accepted. I'm trying to play football in college, which is one reason why I applied to 4 D3 rigorous schools.
This is like going to be my exact stats for next year, except definitely much better SAT's (sorry) and not so much living abroad, but I'm asian so that's even worse. Same sports (very likely going to be captain in both too), around same gpa, etc. Really interested to see what you get+ Show Spoiler +
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Affirmative action makes me want to shoot myself in the head. On topic, being a freshman I am just starting to see college letters come in the mail and it makes me really excited. The only one that is actually notable is Columbia Engineering, and that really isn't that good. (I think?)
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On March 18 2013 08:57 autoexec wrote:
Affirmative action makes me want to shoot myself in the head. On topic, being a freshman I am just starting to see college letters come in the mail and it makes me really excited. The only one that is actually notable is Columbia Engineering, and that really isn't that good. (I think?)
Columbia is like 4th in the country... or it was when I was applying to school.
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On March 18 2013 08:58 ticklishmusic wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 08:57 autoexec wrote:
Affirmative action makes me want to shoot myself in the head. On topic, being a freshman I am just starting to see college letters come in the mail and it makes me really excited. The only one that is actually notable is Columbia Engineering, and that really isn't that good. (I think?) Columbia is like 4th in the country... or it was when I was applying to school.
Really? After a quick check to Wikipedia it seems that their Engineering was 4th in the country as of February 2011. O.O Well that makes quite a bit happier! :D
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On March 18 2013 08:57 autoexec wrote:
Affirmative action makes me want to shoot myself in the head. On topic, being a freshman I am just starting to see college letters come in the mail and it makes me really excited. The only one that is actually notable is Columbia Engineering, and that really isn't that good. (I think?)
Affirmative action is a bit of a bummer, but I'm not sure if it's really as huge of a factor as some people make it out to be.
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On March 18 2013 08:58 ticklishmusic wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 08:57 autoexec wrote:
Affirmative action makes me want to shoot myself in the head. On topic, being a freshman I am just starting to see college letters come in the mail and it makes me really excited. The only one that is actually notable is Columbia Engineering, and that really isn't that good. (I think?) Columbia is like 4th in the country... or it was when I was applying to school.
Their overall ranking is 4th. Their engineering isn't ranked nearly as well.
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well, good luck to you people, im glad we have open universities in germany that dont make people go through such a stressfull ceremony.
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You're right. After checking the link, the page was to an overall ranking. I think the actual rank of the Engineering College was 15th.
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can some one clarifies AA to me? is that the equivalent of positive discrimination?
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Is it possible to get into a good college in America without playing sports?
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On March 18 2013 10:02 crazyweasel wrote:
can some one clarifies AA to me? is that the equivalent of positive discrimination?
It's the same thing. Except that it is more politically correct to use AA. In the same sense that some people are "challenged" (see here)
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On March 18 2013 10:04 HazMat wrote:
Is it possible to get into a good college in America without playing sports?
lol
yeah
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I got into an REU at NCSU, does anyone know anything about this school?
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On March 18 2013 10:19 n.DieJokes wrote:
I got into an REU at NCSU, does anyone know anything about this school?
Mostly everything on campus is made of brick. No joke.
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On March 18 2013 10:19 n.DieJokes wrote:
I got into an REU at NCSU, does anyone know anything about this school?
Yeah, I go there. It is a good engineering school (and an underrated physics program). If it is in one of these fields (or maybe math) then I would go for it. Congrats by the way.
Feel free to PM me if you want.
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On March 18 2013 10:26 autoexec wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 10:19 n.DieJokes wrote:
I got into an REU at NCSU, does anyone know anything about this school? Mostly everything on campus is made of brick. No joke.
This is actually true. You grow to like it though.
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Bring on the new RISD students guys. :-P I want more TL people 'round here!
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On March 17 2013 12:19 Grimmyman123 wrote:
Its a look at me and how smart I am thread!
The world needs more people to be proud of their accomplishments; who want to inspire others to do the same.
School isn't easy and it's great when you see people's hard work pay off.
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Good work guys! Hope you get in where you want!
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How hard is it to have a 4.0/4.0 GPA or a perfect SAT score (if that makes sense). Is it like the 99th percentile, the 99.9th? the 99.99th?
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On March 18 2013 13:36 ZenithM wrote:
How hard is it to have a 4.0/4.0 GPA or a perfect SAT score (if that makes sense). Is it like the 99th percentile, the 99.9th? the 99.99th?
There are stats on sat score on wiki.
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I'm rather curious what it takes to get into Caltech or MIT extracurricular wise, because I have a friend who got recruited for football at MIT when he was a second string player who rarely played and has only decent academics. Though it was a two year undefeated team with a championship...
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On March 18 2013 13:36 ZenithM wrote:
How hard is it to have a 4.0/4.0 GPA or a perfect SAT score (if that makes sense). Is it like the 99th percentile, the 99.9th? the 99.99th?
Just remember that having only good grades doesn't guarantee getting into a good school. Other things like community service, extra curricular, and student clubs are all essential to getting accepted.
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On March 18 2013 10:04 HazMat wrote:
Is it possible to get into a good college in America without playing sports?
Yes, but best to have some form of extracurricular to make up for it, colleges want to see that you're social and have goals.
On separate note, people need to think about major too for their college. Ee at mit is a lot harder to get into than their english programs.
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On March 18 2013 13:40 peekn wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 13:36 ZenithM wrote:
How hard is it to have a 4.0/4.0 GPA or a perfect SAT score (if that makes sense). Is it like the 99th percentile, the 99.9th? the 99.99th? Just remember that having only good grades doesn't guarantee getting into a good school. Other things like community service, extra curricular, and student clubs are all essential to getting accepted.
I just wanted to ask because I'm curious about the test's difficulty, not about the actual college entrance process in that case.
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On March 18 2013 13:36 ZenithM wrote:
How hard is it to have a 4.0/4.0 GPA or a perfect SAT score (if that makes sense). Is it like the 99th percentile, the 99.9th? the 99.99th?
A perfect SAT score is essentially the 99.97th percentile on the curve, but it can have a little variation. College board calls it "equating" but who are we kidding, it's basically curving.
GPA, of course, depends on lots of things like the school you attend/teachers/classes you take. It's just how well you do in school and the US school system has curricula and requirements that vary by school district, state, even by teacher.
Also, to reiterate, in the US your scores don't matter nearly as much, but you already know this. It's interesting, though, because whereas pretty much in any other nation, afaik the university you go to depends almost entirely on standardized testing, the American system cares about test scores, GPA, extracurriculars, special interests, essays, teacher recommendations, the level of classes you took, work experience, leadership, organizations/clubs, and a bunch of other stuff.
I think(?) it happens every year but the last few pages moving off people posting acceptances/discussing them hehe. But I guess it's part of the process so people will always be pretty curious about it (not to mention a lot of the non-US people can learn about how admissions works in the states XD).
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On March 18 2013 13:46 Aerisky wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 13:36 ZenithM wrote:
How hard is it to have a 4.0/4.0 GPA or a perfect SAT score (if that makes sense). Is it like the 99th percentile, the 99.9th? the 99.99th? A perfect SAT score is essentially the 99.97th percentile on the curve, but it can have a little variation. College board calls it "equating" but who are we kidding, it's basically curving. GPA, of course, depends on lots of things like the school you attend/teachers/classes you take. It's just how well you do in school and the US school system has curricula and requirements that vary by school district, state, even by teacher. Also, to reiterate, in the US your scores don't matter nearly as much. Where in Australia or UK or wherever, the school you go to depends almost entirely on standardized testing, the American system cares about test scores, GPA, extracurriculars, interests, essays, teacher recommendations, the level of classes you took, work experience, and a bunch of other stuff. I think(?) it happens every year but the last few pages moving off people posting acceptances/discussing them hehe. But I guess it's part of the process so people will always be pretty curious about it (not to mention a lot of the non-US people can learn about how admissions works in the states XD).
Application process for international students for university in the states, is much different.
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On March 18 2013 13:46 Aerisky wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 13:36 ZenithM wrote:
How hard is it to have a 4.0/4.0 GPA or a perfect SAT score (if that makes sense). Is it like the 99th percentile, the 99.9th? the 99.99th? A perfect SAT score is essentially the 99.97th percentile on the curve, but it can have a little variation. College board calls it "equating" but who are we kidding, it's basically curving. GPA, of course, depends on lots of things like the school you attend/teachers/classes you take. It's just how well you do in school and the US school system has curricula and requirements that vary by school district, state, even by teacher. Also, to reiterate, in the US your scores don't matter nearly as much, but you already know this. It's interesting, though, because whereas pretty much in any other nation, afaik the university you go to depends almost entirely on standardized testing, the American system cares about test scores, GPA, extracurriculars, special interests, essays, teacher recommendations, the level of classes you took, work experience, leadership, organizations/clubs, and a bunch of other stuff. I think(?) it happens every year but the last few pages moving off people posting acceptances/discussing them hehe. But I guess it's part of the process so people will always be pretty curious about it (not to mention a lot of the non-US people can learn about how admissions works in the states XD).
Thank you very much
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On March 18 2013 13:48 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 13:46 Aerisky wrote:On March 18 2013 13:36 ZenithM wrote:
How hard is it to have a 4.0/4.0 GPA or a perfect SAT score (if that makes sense). Is it like the 99th percentile, the 99.9th? the 99.99th? A perfect SAT score is essentially the 99.97th percentile on the curve, but it can have a little variation. College board calls it "equating" but who are we kidding, it's basically curving. GPA, of course, depends on lots of things like the school you attend/teachers/classes you take. It's just how well you do in school and the US school system has curricula and requirements that vary by school district, state, even by teacher. Also, to reiterate, in the US your scores don't matter nearly as much. Where in Australia or UK or wherever, the school you go to depends almost entirely on standardized testing, the American system cares about test scores, GPA, extracurriculars, interests, essays, teacher recommendations, the level of classes you took, work experience, and a bunch of other stuff. I think(?) it happens every year but the last few pages moving off people posting acceptances/discussing them hehe. But I guess it's part of the process so people will always be pretty curious about it (not to mention a lot of the non-US people can learn about how admissions works in the states XD). Application process for international students for university in the states, is much different.
Well yeah, it certainly seems to be the case. I was only talking about US applicants for US schools =P
@Zenith: yupyup :D
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On March 18 2013 05:03 OneOther wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 04:59 Stefanovich wrote:
So is this all undergrad? Or do we have any peeps here working on post grad applications? i.e. med school? Are there any TLers going to law school next year? I am almost done with my cycle, just waiting to make my decision based on scholarships/financial aid/etc.
I am going to law school next year. Where did you apply? I am hoping to go to the University of Denver.
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On March 17 2013 13:13 plasmidghost wrote:
Accepted to Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute. Strangely enough, I first heard about them because that's where IdrA turned down a full ride scholarship to instead go play with eSTRO in Korea. I will be studying the really interesting, somewhat new field of bioinformatics.
Stats:
2190 SAT (790 math, 780 reading, 620 writing)
34 ACT (can't remeber specifics)
4.0 GPA weighted, 3.8 unweighted
Rank: 6/502
A metric fuckton of extracurricular activity
White male, Texas
Rejected:
Caltech
MIT
Waitlisted:
Georgia Tech
Baylor
Accepted:
Rensselaer
Texas A&M
Still waiting:
Harvard
Yale
Columbia
Rice
Stanford
Your list looks so much like mine 4 years ago. I had the same stats as you and shit. I was from a private school in washington state though. Anyways dude if you want to get out of texas thats great. I just want to point out that unless you go and visit RPI DO NOT go there. For the love of god. I went there because I got a lot of money. I could have gone to a few other schools but I went here. On paper with the money I didn't think you could get much better. In all my life I had never been depressed until I was stuck at that shithole in Troy NY. Just letting you know now there is not much to do there you feel trapped. There are no chicks, and almost everyone joins a fraternity to "have fun". The winters are miserable also.Let me know if you have any questions but I was there for 1 year before transferring to UW which is the same school academically but in a way better place and actually cheaper.
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Kind of hard to imagine that this was me just an year ago. This is definitely a nerveracking time.
Good luck to all the applicants who still haven't heard back from schools yet, congratulations to all those who got accepted into schools, and to everyone who's gotten rejections: It's not the end of the world. Opportunities are out there for you to grab! You just have to go looking for them :D
Edit: Also, so many Ivy leagues in this thread 0_o. TL definitely aims to be the best in everything, not just Starcraft.
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Come to Cornell, we need More TL'ers here! If anyone is coming to Cornell let me know!
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On March 18 2013 16:41 nohbrows wrote:
Kind of hard to imagine that this was me just an year ago. This is definitely a nerveracking time.
Good luck to all the applicants who still haven't heard back from schools yet, congratulations to all those who got accepted into schools, and to everyone who's gotten rejections: It's not the end of the world. Opportunities are out there for you to grab! You just have to go looking for them :D
Edit: Also, so many Ivy leagues in this thread 0_o. TL definitely aims to be the best in everything, not just Starcraft.
Meh, there is some selection bias going on. TL is a large site and you basically have the average male population between 12-25. There are bound to be a number of people going to Ivy's. The ones that do will most likely post in this thread, for a number of reasons. The ones that got into a mediocre school won't be bothered. Also, you brain automatically pays more attention to to exceptional cases.
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Anyone get into a university in Hong Kong? I got into Hong Kong poly u with a full scholarship and living fees covered! Would be awesome to meet some TLers once I get there.
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On March 18 2013 17:22 Tazza wrote:
Anyone get into a university in Hong Kong? I got into Hong Kong poly u with a full scholarship and living fees covered! Would be awesome to meet some TLers once I get there.
I can take you around Hong Kong :p
PS: Are you the same Tazza who won PGL?
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On March 18 2013 21:29 ppshchik wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 17:22 Tazza wrote:
Anyone get into a university in Hong Kong? I got into Hong Kong poly u with a full scholarship and living fees covered! Would be awesome to meet some TLers once I get there. I can take you around Hong Kong :p PS: Are you the same Tazza who won PGL?
That would be great man. It would be great to know someone in Hong Kong before i actually get there. If u don't mind me asking, are u a student there or work there? Just curious.
And no, I'm not the progamer. Tazza is the name of a movie in Korea
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On March 18 2013 14:24 lightrise wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 05:03 OneOther wrote:On March 18 2013 04:59 Stefanovich wrote:
So is this all undergrad? Or do we have any peeps here working on post grad applications? i.e. med school? Are there any TLers going to law school next year? I am almost done with my cycle, just waiting to make my decision based on scholarships/financial aid/etc. I am going to law school next year. Where did you apply? I am hoping to go to the University of Denver.
At this point it's looking like Columbia, but still waiting to hear back from a couple law schools and waiting for scholarship information from most of them
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On March 18 2013 17:05 l10f wrote:
Come to Cornell, we need More TL'ers here! If anyone is coming to Cornell let me know!
Seconded. COME JOIN US!!! Also feel free to message me with any questions, etc.
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I hope you all get in where you want!
Whew.... Reading this thread, it sounds as if it is pretty difficult to get into a decent university in the US of A.
+ Show Spoiler [Here in Switzerland ...] +
... the education system seems to differ a bit. You do not have to study in order to upgrade your education and get a good and well paid job. However, if you want to study, you go to gymnasium (6 y) instead of secondary school (3 y) and if you pass the entrance exam and 1 semester probation, you are basically guaranteed to belong to the ~25% of our population who have the Matura. Then you can study whatever whereever you want in this country.
I am lucky enough to live 30 minutes away from the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology. Costs ~600$ per term and what I study, Electrical Engineering, is higher ranked here than in Hawards.
Well, it's still tough and especially time consuming... According to statistics, only ~50% pass the first year alone with 1/3 trying for the 2nd time.
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Got accepted to the only Master's program I applied to. I didn't want to do a research based masters. Pretty happy about it since the program places you in an internship.
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I'm already in college, but thought I'd share something. The only reason why I feel like I even got into the college I'm currently attending is because I scored 800 on SAT math. My GPA was pretty pathetic, but my test scores were fairly substantial.
Anyways, when I was taking the SAT I ran out of time on the math portion and ended up just picking an answer for the very last question. Turns out it was the right answer, and I ended up getting 800 out of pure luck. Even if I chose wrong and still got a 790 or something, I'm sure it wouldn't make that huge of a difference.
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On March 19 2013 04:23 TheToaster wrote:
I'm already in college, but thought I'd share something. The only reason why I feel like I even got into the college I'm currently attending is because I scored 800 on SAT math. My GPA was pretty pathetic, but my test scores were fairly substantial.
Anyways, when I was taking the SAT I ran out of time on the math portion and ended up just picking an answer for the very last question. Turns out it was the right answer, and I ended up getting 800 out of pure luck. Even if I chose wrong and still got a 790 or something, I'm sure it wouldn't make that huge of a difference.
Just so you know - your SAT score isn't based on how many you got right - its how many you got right in relationship to everyone else. So you may or may not have guessed correctly on that last one...anyways congrats on the 800!
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On March 19 2013 04:32 pugowar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2013 04:23 TheToaster wrote:
I'm already in college, but thought I'd share something. The only reason why I feel like I even got into the college I'm currently attending is because I scored 800 on SAT math. My GPA was pretty pathetic, but my test scores were fairly substantial.
Anyways, when I was taking the SAT I ran out of time on the math portion and ended up just picking an answer for the very last question. Turns out it was the right answer, and I ended up getting 800 out of pure luck. Even if I chose wrong and still got a 790 or something, I'm sure it wouldn't make that huge of a difference. Just so you know - your SAT score isn't based on how many you got right - its how many you got right in relationship to everyone else. So you may or may not have guessed correctly on that last one...anyways congrats on the 800!
So your SAT scores are scored differently each year depending on how well others preform that particular testing date? Could you please explain?
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On March 19 2013 04:35 autoexec wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2013 04:32 pugowar wrote:On March 19 2013 04:23 TheToaster wrote:
I'm already in college, but thought I'd share something. The only reason why I feel like I even got into the college I'm currently attending is because I scored 800 on SAT math. My GPA was pretty pathetic, but my test scores were fairly substantial.
Anyways, when I was taking the SAT I ran out of time on the math portion and ended up just picking an answer for the very last question. Turns out it was the right answer, and I ended up getting 800 out of pure luck. Even if I chose wrong and still got a 790 or something, I'm sure it wouldn't make that huge of a difference. Just so you know - your SAT score isn't based on how many you got right - its how many you got right in relationship to everyone else. So you may or may not have guessed correctly on that last one...anyways congrats on the 800! So your SAT scores are scored differently each year depending on how well others preform that particular testing date? Could you please explain?
You are still scored based on how many you got right, but colleges look at what percentile you are in
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On March 18 2013 17:05 l10f wrote:
Come to Cornell, we need More TL'ers here! If anyone is coming to Cornell let me know!
My friend BarackObama (SC ID) goes to Cornell University ^n^ he's on the CSL team and he does 2v2 with JoeBiden
On March 18 2013 07:14 kafkaesque wrote:
Are you guys really serious about the colleges taking race into consideration?
I can't tell if you're jesting, but I can't believe that this would be legal or tolerated...
Yeah they do, it's to brag about the diversity of backgrounds and stuff that their students come from. It's much nicer for parents and board members in charge of funding to hear that than "Most of our students are predominantly White and Asian.".
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On March 19 2013 04:35 autoexec wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2013 04:32 pugowar wrote:On March 19 2013 04:23 TheToaster wrote:
I'm already in college, but thought I'd share something. The only reason why I feel like I even got into the college I'm currently attending is because I scored 800 on SAT math. My GPA was pretty pathetic, but my test scores were fairly substantial.
Anyways, when I was taking the SAT I ran out of time on the math portion and ended up just picking an answer for the very last question. Turns out it was the right answer, and I ended up getting 800 out of pure luck. Even if I chose wrong and still got a 790 or something, I'm sure it wouldn't make that huge of a difference. Just so you know - your SAT score isn't based on how many you got right - its how many you got right in relationship to everyone else. So you may or may not have guessed correctly on that last one...anyways congrats on the 800! So your SAT scores are scored differently each year depending on how well others preform that particular testing date? Could you please explain?
Sure the SAT is scored on a bell curve, meaning everyone get a raw score, and then is compared with everyone else - lets say there are 100 questions and the average person at that sitting gets 67 right (the mean), and the standard deviation is 3 points. That means if you get 73 correct, you are 2 Standard deviations above the mean, which means you scored above a certain percentage of the people who took that test. Each percentile is then changed to an SAT score.
see this for more info or if my explanation doesn't make sense:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAT#Raw_scores.2C_scaled_scores.2C_and_percentiles
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Going to Newcastle University in England to do Business Management.
Done a BTEC and got D* D* D*. I feel so guilty because ive burgled my way into one of the best universities in the country by doing a piss easy course and I get in infront of people who are much cleverer than me who achieved AAB at A-Level. Oh well.
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Got accepted to Concordia University in Montreal, already accepted offer for a BA in Poli Sci BA.
84 percent. Really happy, I really wanted to get into this university,
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On March 17 2013 21:27 hns wrote:
Just a quick question from a german guy unaware of all details of/habits in the US education system: Seeing most posts in this thread, most of you guys apply for colleges nationwide, but there was also one guy who concentrated to California. So, how common is it to go "abroad" for a highschool graduate? Obviously, if you apply for the really big players (Harvard, Stanford, w/e), you probably will have to move, but what about the "standard" colleges? Is it considered normal or even mandatory to get out of your town, even if there is a pretty fine college around which you could perfectly apply to, or is it just you TL users here that strive out?
I'll throw in my two cents since I went to school out of state:
I'd venture to say that most high school students apply to in-state schools. Money is usually the key factor since out of state rates are horrendous.
You mentioned the UC system, which is a special case. The UC system is one of the best in the country in terms of ranking. That doesn't necessarily make it better, but if you're looking for a "good" school instead of "the best" school, and you have a bunch in your own state, it's to your advantage to stay in-state.
As to moving out of state, there are a lot of reasons. Someone mentioned getting away from parents or home town. I see this happen a lot, especially if they live near another university. Some people want to see something new, or maybe they REALLY want to go to a specific city or region. Personally, I felt WAY more at home in the out of state university I chose than any of my in-state choices. It was only 120 miles away, so nothing too major. I'm now in grad school 1000 miles away, though it's a lot more common to travel for that.
What you mentioned earlier about sticking to home towns in true in so many ways. Moving away means you start over - new people, new area, new everything! It's very stressful and it can get very depressing if it's not going your way. I think we take for granted the lives we have in our home towns during high school. I don't think we realize how long it took to build up the group of friends and comfort level. It takes years for a new location to "feel" like home. It took me almost 4 years during undergrad and I'm still not completely settled into my grad school location after 2.5 years. Some people don't want to start over, and that's totally fine. Attitudes like this explain why some people always stay near home, why small towns and big cities alike have a core population group who will never move, and even why some people never want to leave, even in the wake of natural disasters.
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Hi everyone, I have a question that is a little off topic.
How difficult is it for a european student to get into some good US gradschool? I would like to do a second masters degree in the US, since they are only one year long. Is it possible, assuming I already study in one of Europes top school?
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I haven't seen many Canadians post in this thread yet.
I applied for CS at to three universities: University of Ottawa (hometown), University of Toronto and University of Waterloo.
I currently have an average of 89% and received early acceptances from uOttawa, and U of T. I'm still waiting uWaterloo, which is my first choice.
If I get into uWaterloo, and I really hope I do, I'm going to jizz in my fucking pants. :D
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On March 19 2013 05:47 Saumure wrote:Hi everyone, I have a question that is a little off topic. How difficult is it for a european student to get into some good US gradschool? I would like to do a second masters degree in the US, since they are only one year long. Is it possible, assuming I already study in one of Europes top school?
When it comes to grad school for international students it tends to come down to the money. It sounds like you want to get a masters, so as long as you can pay for it you likely won't be at a disadvantage compared to americans. If on the other hand you were trying to get a fellowship/funding for a PhD often times those funds tend to have rules that may limit them to americans.
Edit: Also congratulations to people getting in! Brings me back. . .
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anyone applying to pyongyang university?
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Second semester senior here. If i do extremely poorly(hoping i don't), and say i get a D in a class, would taking an online course and getting an A make up for the bad grade?
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edit: wrong place to ask, nevermimd.
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On March 19 2013 08:33 fobtasticfury wrote:
Second semester senior here. If i do extremely poorly(hoping i don't), and say i get a D in a class, would taking an online course and getting an A make up for the bad grade? Why does a D matter? I'm assuming you're already in somewhere and talking about being rescinded? That's a severe case and wouldn't happen with a D surely. Probably a better question for College Confidential lol.
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On March 19 2013 08:33 fobtasticfury wrote:
Second semester senior here. If i do extremely poorly(hoping i don't), and say i get a D in a class, would taking an online course and getting an A make up for the bad grade?
It probably depends on what school you get into but if you get rescinded I highly doubt taking an online course will change anything. I wouldn't risk getting a D in a class, that's just silly. =\
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At a highly selective place, you're going to need a good explanation for the D otherwise they might rescind your decision. :X
My dad went to college in Taiwan many years ago, then went to Cornell for his phD (apparently they gave him an embarassingly large amount of money). He went to the best school in Tawan but admits that his grades weren't the best-- dunno if that has any bearing on how grad school in the US for internationals is now though. My dad's a smart guy, but I bet its a lot more competitive now lol.
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On March 19 2013 10:27 ticklishmusic wrote:
At a highly selective place, you're going to need a good explanation for the D otherwise they might rescind your decision. :X
My dad went to college in Taiwan many years ago, then went to Cornell for his phD (apparently they gave him an embarassingly large amount of money). He went to the best school in Tawan but admits that his grades weren't the best-- dunno if that has any bearing on how grad school in the US for internationals is now though. My dad's a smart guy, but I bet its a lot more competitive now lol.
It is very competitive but universities like diversity. It also depends on the subject the Ph.D is in. For instance, Clinical Psychology Ph.D programs are very selective (5-10 per year) and at schools like UCLA tuition is covered for all of their Clinical Ph.D. students.
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@Saumure I don't have too many details but if you are serious about it and show great motivation it is not really hard to get to a good foreign university for 1year exchange or PhD if you come from a ok-ish Grande Ecole (one of the mines concours? 1-2 friends went to MIT). No idea for University students though, but I have friends who went to the asian equivalent of Ivies.
Show that you really want it, get good results, and start bugging people (teachers, researchers, administration) LOOOONG before you have to go :p
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On March 19 2013 07:32 jinorazi wrote:
anyone applying to pyongyang university?
I tried, but I had trouble with their website.
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I was rejected by Northwestern.
Middlebury comes out on saturday, cornell the next thursday.
Meh, 0 acceptances, 2 rejections (harvard EA, NU)
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I'm still a junior but I have a 2000 on the SAT, haven't taken SATIIs yet, play piano (going to take NYSSMA Level 5 in June), attend JSA (only started this year though), and around a 90 avg cumulatively. uh, My rankings in my grade is 38/91 and I am taking AP Stats, AP English and will take Calc BC and AP CompSci in my senior year. Its pretty hard to compare it to what I've been reading in this thread cause I'm definitely not top 1% at all. I'm still practicing to get a higher SAT score and plan on getting more community service hours (I think i racked up about 100 so far). Then again, I'm not planning on going to an ivy and I'm just curious where i can go to at this rate
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Every year I'm surprised at the lack of architecture, art or designed related majors. So left out.
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On March 20 2013 22:58 kafkaesque wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2013 07:32 jinorazi wrote:
anyone applying to pyongyang university? I tried, but I had trouble with their website.
PyongYang University (PYU) is great, but they have a deceptive policy of putting excess intake into their sister school: "Reeducation Camp #1661." Heard the facilities there are not as good as the main campus. Also the dining services there suck.
On the other hand, they have a killer wellness program for losing weight.
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On March 22 2013 09:05 Kenpachi wrote:
I'm still a junior but I have a 2000 on the SAT, haven't taken SATIIs yet, play piano (going to take NYSSMA Level 5 in June), attend JSA (only started this year though), and around a 90 avg cumulatively. uh, My rankings in my grade is 38/91 and I am taking AP Stats, AP English and will take Calc BC and AP CompSci in my senior year. Its pretty hard to compare it to what I've been reading in this thread cause I'm definitely not top 1% at all. I'm still practicing to get a higher SAT score and plan on getting more community service hours (I think i racked up about 100 so far). Then again, I'm not planning on going to an ivy and I'm just curious where i can go to at this rate
If you already have 100+ community service hours, more are really unnecessary (still a good thing to do though). I'd focus more on studying for the SAT/ACT's and getting those grades and class rank up, as well as getting involved in EC's if you're not already.
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On March 19 2013 06:36 TaiYang wrote:
I haven't seen many Canadians post in this thread yet.
I applied for CS at to three universities: University of Ottawa (hometown), University of Toronto and University of Waterloo.
I currently have an average of 89% and received early acceptances from uOttawa, and U of T. I'm still waiting uWaterloo, which is my first choice.
If I get into uWaterloo, and I really hope I do, I'm going to jizz in my fucking pants. :D
89 is really good, but it depends on your program. Basically if you have any sort of strong extracurriculars at this point, you should be in for most programs, and even without strong ECs, in a lot of programs still. Good luck!
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Accepted:
Franklin&Marshall
Dickinson
Waitlisted:
Middlebury
Rejected:
Rice
Northwestern
Harvard (EA)
Waiting:
Amherst
Stanford
Vanderbilt
Cornell
I was really hoping i'd get into Middlebury..
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On March 22 2013 09:08 Disregard wrote:
Every year I'm surprised at the lack of architecture, art or designed related majors. So left out.
Seems like everyone is into science or math nowadays...
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On March 19 2013 05:47 Saumure wrote:Hi everyone, I have a question that is a little off topic. How difficult is it for a european student to get into some good US gradschool? I would like to do a second masters degree in the US, since they are only one year long. Is it possible, assuming I already study in one of Europes top school?
I can't answer your question, but just our of curiosity: where do you study now? I've often wondered which universities other europeans consider to be the best.
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Best of luck to everyone in the middle of receiving (and anxiously waiting for) college responses. A lot of the students I tutor in math and standardized testing are also waiting to hear back from their universities as well. I like living vicariously through my students every year, listening to their stories of the application process and hearing how nerve-wracking it is to wait for those acceptance and rejection letters I never really had to deal with such anxiety, as I got in to my first choice very early on in the college acceptance process, and so I didn't need to apply anywhere else (I knew where I was going from around November of senior year).
If anyone is going to Rutgers University in New Brunswick, NJ, let me know! I got my bachelor's and master's from there (in mathematics and math education, respectively), and I'm still there doing my PhD in math education. Finishing up my first year now
On March 23 2013 23:05 Zambrah wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2013 09:08 Disregard wrote:
Every year I'm surprised at the lack of architecture, art or designed related majors. So left out. Seems like everyone is into science or math nowadays...
There's definitely been a huge push for more students to enter into the STEM fields (science, technology, engineering, mathematics), although there are still plenty of humanities majors. Math and science in particular tend to be relatively polarizing; many students have very strong feelings towards those subjects, and so they'll either go all out with involvement, or really be turned away (by the course material or a teacher, etc.).
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On March 22 2013 09:26 ampson wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2013 09:05 Kenpachi wrote:
I'm still a junior but I have a 2000 on the SAT, haven't taken SATIIs yet, play piano (going to take NYSSMA Level 5 in June), attend JSA (only started this year though), and around a 90 avg cumulatively. uh, My rankings in my grade is 38/91 and I am taking AP Stats, AP English and will take Calc BC and AP CompSci in my senior year. Its pretty hard to compare it to what I've been reading in this thread cause I'm definitely not top 1% at all. I'm still practicing to get a higher SAT score and plan on getting more community service hours (I think i racked up about 100 so far). Then again, I'm not planning on going to an ivy and I'm just curious where i can go to at this rate If you already have 100+ community service hours, more are really unnecessary (still a good thing to do though). I'd focus more on studying for the SAT/ACT's and getting those grades and class rank up, as well as getting involved in EC's if you're not already.
I'd suggest doing a musical supplement to your app (I played violin and had piano friends, but I forgot how y'all's ranking system works, but I'm guessing you're pretty good).
Don't do service hours unless you care about the activity and enjoy it. Focus on the things you're really involved in and enjoy and think about how you can write about them and otherwise convey your enthusiasm. Think of teacher recommendations. At this point your grades aren't going to make any impactus giganticus, so just keep them up. A higher SAT/ACT is always a goal to reach for, but really focus on writing a good essay.
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Waitlisted by Richmond LMAO i've lost faith in college admissions
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Accpeted: Ball State University, IUPUI, and Purdue University.
Going to: Purdue University to study Computer Science
OR SO I THOUGHT.
I recently joined the Army Reserve to help pay for college, and my training will cause me to start college a year late. I notified Purdue, and they said I had to get accepted again, (I even paid my $200 NON-RUFUNDABLE deposit). I was told there was a law that protected military personnell from losing their current civilian positions. So for example, say I worked at taco bell, and I have to fulfill military obligations that will keep me away from my job for a month, Taco Bell would not be allowed to fire me. Whats going on here?
Edit: I was told of that law by my recruiter, not Purdue.
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You were accepted, but you're not technically in the university. You need to actually be studying there before you can use that.
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There is accepted and then theres enrollment.
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yeah in Quebec, unless you are shitty bad at school you can get in anywhere in almost any program. and these universities are still among the best in the world. + we have "good tuition fees" compared to what most places get.
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denied from Claremont Mckenna and Washington University in St. Louis. Waiting on a bunch of other reach schools. I'm pretty depressed right now. I'm pissed because I have the same GPA as an "academic all-star" at my school, with more extra-currics and the same level of accomplishment. I don't get that award though, and she has gotten into better schools. She's gotten into most of her schools too. Wtf.
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On March 26 2013 23:39 docvoc wrote:
denied from Claremont Mckenna and Washington University in St. Louis. Waiting on a bunch of other reach schools. I'm pretty depressed right now. I'm pissed because I have the same GPA as an "academic all-star" at my school, with more extra-currics and the same level of accomplishment. I don't get that award though, and she has gotten into better schools. She's gotten into most of her schools too. Wtf.
sometimes you just have bad luck. she could also have written a mind-blowing essay. also, if she's going into physics/math/engineering she'll have an easier time gaining admittance to those schools.
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On March 27 2013 03:06 LosingID8 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2013 23:39 docvoc wrote:
denied from Claremont Mckenna and Washington University in St. Louis. Waiting on a bunch of other reach schools. I'm pretty depressed right now. I'm pissed because I have the same GPA as an "academic all-star" at my school, with more extra-currics and the same level of accomplishment. I don't get that award though, and she has gotten into better schools. She's gotten into most of her schools too. Wtf. sometimes you just have bad luck. she could also have written a mind-blowing essay. also, if she's going into physics/math/engineering she'll have an easier time gaining admittance to those schools.
Yeah, good points. College really is a huge crapshoot, and even while you see it happen to people who come before you and understand that it does happen, the luck that goes into admissions (so many factors, really) really invalidates comparisons you might feel compelled to draw. Try to keep your chin up doc >.<
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for those top students who are disappointed by rejections and probably experiencing academic "failure" for the first time, just keep a few things in mind.
1. assuming you applied smartly (ie not to just HYPSM) you will likely gain admittance to one of top universities in the country.
2. your college doesn't define you, it's what you make out of your opportunities, and believe me they are endless at any top school.
3. even if you feel like you're "settling" by going to a "lesser" school than whatever your dream school was, chances are that you'll find a ton of people at that school that are more driven, more talented, and more intelligent than you. don't underestimate the caliber of students at any of the top schools or else you'll suddenly find yourself an average or below average student.
4. once you decide on a school to attend, forget about the rejections or other schools you turned down. don't wallow in misery and bitterness that you aren't attending your dream school. if you give your school a fair chance, you'll probably end up loving wherever you end up.
ps: i worked as a college counselor/advisor for a private tutoring center so i feel like i kind of know what i'm talking about with regards to college admissions
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Cool stuff! Put that shit in a mod note or something <3
Also, people say it every year, but truly: college is definitely what you make of it--you get out of it what you put into it. I know a lot of people who even went to one of the HSYPM schools and actually hated it there; a lot of it is fit as well, so try to visit :3
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On March 27 2013 03:25 LosingID8 wrote:
4. once you decide on a school to attend, forget about the rejections or other schools you turned down. don't wallow in misery and bitterness that you aren't attending your dream school. if you give your school a fair chance, you'll probably end up loving wherever you end up.
This. I believe over time, everyone gets over the fact that they didn't get into the school they wanted and simply ends up loving the school they do attend. Once you start going to college, you'll start to notice that college becomes much more significant than just an academic pursuit. So getting into a higher ranked school isn't necessarily a good thing.
In the end, employers don't really give a rats ass about which school you attended anyways, unless there's some huge gaping difference between the two (for example Harvard and ITT Tech). There are way more important factors employers are concerned with. My mom worked as a recruiter for Harris, this large military contractor, hiring hundreds of programmers and engineers. An applicants choice of schools was one of their least concerns. Other things like what they did in college, their work ethic, their experience, etc. basically determined everything.
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On March 18 2013 05:41 Angry_Fetus wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 14:00 WGdwarf wrote:On March 17 2013 13:57 Pinkie wrote:
Weaknesses: Most of my awards were in Senior year so updates might not have come in time to influence decisions. Also I felt my essays were strong but maybe not. Kind of disheartening watching kids in my school get into Harvard or similar with lesser stats but they are- how should I say... Ethnic...
Dude, I know that feel. Some of my friends worked so fucking hard since like middle school and got rejected from all of their schools despite being quite qualified... then you see on facebook a bunch minorities with much worse stats get in. That's kinda why Im glad I didnt try so hard. Yeah, being a white male makes life so difficult...
Still better than being an Asian applicant to a top Ivy.
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On March 26 2013 23:22 crazyweasel wrote:
yeah in Quebec, unless you are shitty bad at school you can get in anywhere in almost any program. and these universities are still among the best in the world. + we have "good tuition fees" compared to what most places get.
you are crazy if you think education in Quebec is as good as other schools lol, most of their schools are party schools, and the only good school I can think of is mcgill which isn't easy to get into
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Is McGIll really that amazing of a school? I always hear things about it.
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Isn't university of Montreal or the university of Quebec more or less equivalent with university of Calgary or university of Alberta? I mean yea it doesn't really have international prestige, but its still decent in Canada. Like the equivalent of state flag-ship school in the US. The only two universities that really have international prestige is pretty much just UofT and Mcgill lol.
Edit, to the poster above, its the only other Canadian uni besides UofT in the world top 100.
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On March 26 2013 21:25 BBoyXELAnt wrote:
Accpeted: Ball State University, IUPUI, and Purdue University.
Going to: Purdue University to study Computer Science
OR SO I THOUGHT.
I recently joined the Army Reserve to help pay for college, and my training will cause me to start college a year late. I notified Purdue, and they said I had to get accepted again, (I even paid my $200 NON-RUFUNDABLE deposit). I was told there was a law that protected military personnell from losing their current civilian positions. So for example, say I worked at taco bell, and I have to fulfill military obligations that will keep me away from my job for a month, Taco Bell would not be allowed to fire me. Whats going on here?
Edit: I was told of that law by my recruiter, not Purdue.
If you haven't signed a contract yet, I would tear it up. Every military branch has options for you to sign up in an officer program which PAYS for your school and then requires you to serve for "X" number for years after you graduate. (This is before you go to boot camp.)
One immediately off the top of my head is the Navy Nuke program. Another option is ROTC scholarships and another is serving after you graduate and receive some loan forgiveness.
ALSO* The law does not apply to college acceptance and such. I know of a lot of National Guard and Reservists who came back after deployments and didn't have jobs waiting on them to come back to. The legal hassle was too much and too long, so they just had to find work elsewhere anyway. Recruiters will paint the world beautiful for you, but they regularly stretch the truth.
The Government sequester also cut military Tuition Assistance btw. So don't let him tell you that TA is available either.
Edit: The Navy Nuke program not only PAYS your school fees, it also gives you a monthly stipend for living expenses.
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On March 27 2013 03:25 LosingID8 wrote:for those top students who are disappointed by rejections and probably experiencing academic "failure" for the first time, just keep a few things in mind. 1. assuming you applied smartly (ie not to just HYPSM) you will likely gain admittance to one of top universities in the country. 2. your college doesn't define you, it's what you make out of your opportunities, and believe me they are endless at any top school. 3. even if you feel like you're "settling" by going to a "lesser" school than whatever your dream school was, chances are that you'll find a ton of people at that school that are more driven, more talented, and more intelligent than you. don't underestimate the caliber of students at any of the top schools or else you'll suddenly find yourself an average or below average student. 4. once you decide on a school to attend, forget about the rejections or other schools you turned down. don't wallow in misery and bitterness that you aren't attending your dream school. if you give your school a fair chance, you'll probably end up loving wherever you end up. ps: i worked as a college counselor/advisor for a private tutoring center so i feel like i kind of know what i'm talking about with regards to college admissions
Please put this in a mod note. I've been depressed about this for literally a week now and this made me feel significantly better. Thanks LosingID8, also to answer your question, yes she's applied as a science major, I think pre-med. So that makes it a bit harder and a bit easier all at the same time.
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docvoc, what schools did you apply to?
So far i'm 2-2-2 for the regular decision list.
Waitlisted by Middlebury (understandable), waitlisted by Richmond (LOL).
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Well, I'm all done. I got deferred from Williams early, got accepted to Oberlin Early Decision 2. Any other Oberlin Class of 2017ers out there?
:D
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also, afaik thursday is judgement day for lots of the really competitive schools so glhf everyone. In the run up to hearing decisions, I like to remind myself of all the things that wont change after, helps me calm down.
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On March 27 2013 08:31 Oreo7 wrote:
Well, I'm all done. I got deferred from Williams early, got accepted to Oberlin Early Decision 2. Any other Oberlin Class of 2017ers out there?
:D
Yea, Williams is tough. Oberlin is great too!
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On March 17 2013 14:54 MysteryMeat1 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 12:34 FinestHour wrote:
does anyone have any insight if submitting an app to a college that does rolling admissions later then earlier affects your chances of getting in? I'm pretty sure the early you submit the better it is. Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 14:09 hoot00 wrote:
I busted my ass for four years learning two new languages and integrals in four space. I think I can brag a little.
WashU!!!!!!! is that UW or WSU in washington
It's neither, it's washU(WUSTL)
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On March 18 2013 13:45 ZenithM wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 13:40 peekn wrote:On March 18 2013 13:36 ZenithM wrote:
How hard is it to have a 4.0/4.0 GPA or a perfect SAT score (if that makes sense). Is it like the 99th percentile, the 99.9th? the 99.99th? Just remember that having only good grades doesn't guarantee getting into a good school. Other things like community service, extra curricular, and student clubs are all essential to getting accepted. I just wanted to ask because I'm curious about the test's difficulty, not about the actual college entrance process in that case.
Perfect SAT scores are very rare; the national average on the SAT is a 1500, 1700 among households that have $200k+ yearly income. Anything above ~2100 is top 2 or so percentile, a perfect score is very rare.
Most colleges just look at your 1600 score (only reading and math, not writing) because writing is a new edition and not very tested.
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On March 27 2013 08:33 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2013 08:31 Oreo7 wrote:
Well, I'm all done. I got deferred from Williams early, got accepted to Oberlin Early Decision 2. Any other Oberlin Class of 2017ers out there?
:D Yea, Williams is tough. Oberlin is great too!
Yeah I'm fucking pumped, Williams was a little too much of an athletic school for me anyway, but I figured I'd give it a shot.
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CU Boulder and NYUPoly so far. i went to some hardcore elite highschool(not full of snobs) and i fucked up my gpa hardcore since i was pretty lazy my sophomore year and im talkin HARDCORE SENIORITIS^100 LAZY. (actually it was more hardcore personally and family problems that are pretty much resolved now but a little too late). my gpa took HARD hits because of some classes. I got A's in all my math and science classes with the exception of one semester bio honors. I got a bunch of 5s on AP exams ( like 5 total which is a lot for me) and 2200ish SAT. 800 sat2 math 750 physics. I am a dedicated swimmer so no time for other extracurriculars other than school clubs. I have like 100ish hours of community service, i speak 2 languages and can read and write latin. I still ended up applying to Stanford because it's my dream. I don't want to regret not applying there even though i can't get accepted with my grades. My essays were top notch, I'm not gonna lie. This writing may be chicken scratch but I was proud of what I wrote for my essays (and yes they were proof read etc etc).
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On March 27 2013 08:43 Oreo7 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2013 08:33 darthfoley wrote:On March 27 2013 08:31 Oreo7 wrote:
Well, I'm all done. I got deferred from Williams early, got accepted to Oberlin Early Decision 2. Any other Oberlin Class of 2017ers out there?
:D Yea, Williams is tough. Oberlin is great too! Yeah I'm fucking pumped, Williams was a little too much of an athletic school for me anyway, but I figured I'd give it a shot.
Idk your situation, but I visited Williams last year. It was so fucking isolated, moreso than the other NESCAC schools i saw that i decided not to apply.
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On March 27 2013 09:01 LosingID8 wrote:
added the mod note!
#4 is a really great point. I was really disappointed when I got waitlisted at my top choice and "settled" for my second. I was thinking well I'll just get through this and try to transfer or something, but after a year at GT I really liked it and ended up staying. It really is what you make of it
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On March 27 2013 09:07 Shellshock1122 wrote:#4 is a really great point. I was really disappointed when I got waitlisted at my top choice and "settled" for my second. I was thinking well I'll just get through this and try to transfer or something, but after a year at GT I really liked it and ended up staying. It really is what you make of it
I totally hate to be the guy that's like "studies show" without actually citing any studies but here it goes. Pretty much every account I've ever heard says that the vast majority of students love the college that they are at and only a slight few would choose to go somewhere else. The common factor here is that its college i.e. a period of time where you get to have a lot of the freedom of an adult without some of the responsibilities and where you can really start to define yourself as a person. Its pretty likely that no matter where you go, you're going to love it, and its all going to be ok in the end.
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I looked at the SAT today. It seems like a pretty bullshit test. I don't even know what they want to test. General intelligence? Well why not just go for an IQ test? It seems you can practice plenty for this SAT. It also seems that they don't even want to test your Math skills because the questions are very basic and basically anyone can understand the material. Idk, weird test. It seems that the only thing important about the SAT is that it is a standardized test and everyone makes it so it's easy to compare.
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On March 27 2013 19:23 Recognizable wrote:
I looked at the SAT today. It seems like a pretty bullshit test. I don't even know what they want to test. General intelligence? Well why not just go for an IQ test? It seems you can practice plenty for this SAT. It also seems that they don't even want to test your Math skills because the questions are very basic and basically anyone can understand the material. Idk, weird test. It seems that the only thing important about the SAT is that it is a standardized test and everyone makes it so it's easy to compare.
The SAT and GRE tests are a measure of how good you are at preparing for tests. They do NOT measure general intelligence, skill, or understanding of the subject matter. Just get some good review books and learn how to master the test because they use a lot of the same tricks year after year. The only actual knowledge you should be cramming is English vocabulary, and there are plenty of great smartphone apps for that.
In other news, I've been admitted to Stockholm University for grad school (Business/ IT Management)! Super excited about moving to another country
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On March 27 2013 09:01 LosingID8 wrote:
added the mod note!
Such a good note too! I remind my students about these all the time (especially when they think they're smarter and better qualified than they really are... even if they do have a kickass application with fantastic scores).
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On March 27 2013 22:43 Erik.TheRed wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2013 19:23 Recognizable wrote:
I looked at the SAT today. It seems like a pretty bullshit test. I don't even know what they want to test. General intelligence? Well why not just go for an IQ test? It seems you can practice plenty for this SAT. It also seems that they don't even want to test your Math skills because the questions are very basic and basically anyone can understand the material. Idk, weird test. It seems that the only thing important about the SAT is that it is a standardized test and everyone makes it so it's easy to compare. The SAT and GRE tests are a measure of how good you are at preparing for tests. They do NOT measure general intelligence, skill, or understanding of the subject matter. Just get some good review books and learn how to master the test because they use a lot of the same tricks year after year. The only actual knowledge you should be cramming is English vocabulary, and there are plenty of great smartphone apps for that. In other news, I've been admitted to Stockholm University for grad school (Business/ IT Management)! Super excited about moving to another country
First of all, congrats on your admittance to Stockholm (you went to Rutgers for undergrad too, right?)
Second, I wanted to echo your points regarding the difference between standardized testing (specifically SAT, ACT, and GRE) and general intelligence/ IQ. I agree with you that there is no causal link between having a higher IQ and doing better on the SAT, but there's definitely some relationship going on (the ability to discern the trick-wording and puzzle-like nature of the SATs and GREs, the ability to handle the problem solving set-up and multi-step nature that all three tests write the harder questions in, etc.).
But then again, there's also a correlation between socioeconomic status and test scores; those who can afford extra books, public and private tutoring, and other study materials tend to do better than those who are forced to go into the exam cold, with little-to-no preparation. The experts can tell you how it's done (which does include content mastery, but also getting you ready for the specific format).
As someone who's tutored standardized testing for over seven years, I also want to point out that I teach nearly as much test-taking strategy as I do content knowledge. There are many problems with how the SAT and other standardized tests are organized, but it also allows students to focus on some other ways to get better scores without necessarily knowing the full gamete of content. It's just as much a game as it is a test.
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On March 27 2013 19:23 Recognizable wrote:
I looked at the SAT today. It seems like a pretty bullshit test. I don't even know what they want to test. General intelligence? Well why not just go for an IQ test? It seems you can practice plenty for this SAT. It also seems that they don't even want to test your Math skills because the questions are very basic and basically anyone can understand the material. Idk, weird test. It seems that the only thing important about the SAT is that it is a standardized test and everyone makes it so it's easy to compare.
Wait until you look at the GRE. The math gets easier, the vocab gets twice as obscure.
The best way* to practice is to sit in B&N with a coffee (feel free to treat yourself to a frap or some extravagantly sugary drink) and to just do practice tests for 2-4 hours a day (depending on your schedule). Don't forget to go over your answers and to read the explanations. Don't waste time reading the stuff in the practice books before the tests and such; you'll learn as you go, and it'll stick better.
For SAT ... I remember liking Princeton Review, but I dunno if that's because it was easy or actually helpful ... Barrons is typically good, as well. I don't remember, really; I just grabbed books off the shelves.
The key to acing these tests if you have adequate background in math and okay reading skills is to just know what the test-makers are looking for. I can't stress this enough, esp. for the verbal section.
*By "best," I mean cheapest and most effective (for me).
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On March 27 2013 22:43 Erik.TheRed wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2013 19:23 Recognizable wrote:
I looked at the SAT today. It seems like a pretty bullshit test. I don't even know what they want to test. General intelligence? Well why not just go for an IQ test? It seems you can practice plenty for this SAT. It also seems that they don't even want to test your Math skills because the questions are very basic and basically anyone can understand the material. Idk, weird test. It seems that the only thing important about the SAT is that it is a standardized test and everyone makes it so it's easy to compare. The SAT and GRE tests are a measure of how good you are at preparing for tests. They do NOT measure general intelligence, skill, or understanding of the subject matter. Just get some good review books and learn how to master the test because they use a lot of the same tricks year after year. The only actual knowledge you should be cramming is English vocabulary, and there are plenty of great smartphone apps for that. In other news, I've been admitted to Stockholm University for grad school (Business/ IT Management)! Super excited about moving to another country
The GRE is joke. It is in a league of it's own as a huge WTF to anyone trying to make sense of it. It's not even an accurate measure of test taking, just random memorization and middle school math skills lol. Don't stress too much for anyone that is apply for grad school lol.
edit: and this is coming from someone who got a 175 on the LSAT and decided not to go to law school, took the GRE for grad school, laughed, and decided to take a year abroad for shits
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Princeton is good, Kaplan is shit. If you can, the blue book is alright as well-- its actual old tests, but I prefer Princeton which is actually a little harder and IMO prepares you better.
If you read any sort of actual literature, the vocab section should be fine. I was good at critical reading, but I'd suggest, again, that reading real books would be the best way to go. Otherwise do lots of practice and develop a feel for it.
The writing section is very straightforward. If you learned any other more structured language (like French/ Spanish/ etc), you should have a working knowledge of grammar, I learned how to diagram sentences for it-- forgot right afterwards, but it worked. The essay is easy as well, try to use some decent vocabulary (please know how to use the words properly) and use Shakespear or something as an example. Answer the question. If its a yes no, answer yes or no and explain. Don't do any of that wishy washy sorta kinda shit.
Math is just a test of being careful and working fast. Gah.
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On March 28 2013 03:26 babylon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2013 19:23 Recognizable wrote:
I looked at the SAT today. It seems like a pretty bullshit test. I don't even know what they want to test. General intelligence? Well why not just go for an IQ test? It seems you can practice plenty for this SAT. It also seems that they don't even want to test your Math skills because the questions are very basic and basically anyone can understand the material. Idk, weird test. It seems that the only thing important about the SAT is that it is a standardized test and everyone makes it so it's easy to compare. Wait until you look at the GRE. The math gets easier, the vocab gets twice as obscure. The best way* to practice is to sit in B&N with a coffee (feel free to treat yourself to a frap or some extravagantly sugary drink) and to just do practice tests for 2-4 hours a day (depending on your schedule). Don't forget to go over your answers and to read the explanations. Don't waste time reading the stuff in the practice books before the tests and such; you'll learn as you go, and it'll stick better. For SAT ... I remember liking Princeton Review, but I dunno if that's because it was easy or actually helpful ... Barrons is typically good, as well. I don't remember, really; I just grabbed books off the shelves. The key to acing these tests if you have adequate background in math and okay reading skills is to just know what the test-makers are looking for. I can't stress this enough, esp. for the verbal section. *By "best," I mean cheapest and most effective (for me).
Many tutoring centers prefer using the CollegeBoard study books (the big blue books for SAT prep) over other ones, although certainly multiple books can be useful.
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Accepted: NYU Poly, RIT, Stevens, SUNY Binghamton, City College of NY
Rejected: Carnegie Mellon
TBD: Columbia (tomorrow, 99% rejection!)
Depending on finances, it'll probably be NYU Poly or RIT, leaning RIT.
Stats
SAT - 2300 (790M, 760CR, 750W)
SAT II - 760 Math2, 720 Physics
Grades - 88 average (3.3), but my school is pretty much the top in NYC and doesn't calculate class ranks or GPAs. I wish I went to an average school, woulda been easy 4.0 :/ (it's Hunter College High School for those who know of it).
No real achievements/accomplishments other than my SC2 career, which accounted for most of my extracurricular activity, between coaching, streaming, competing, casting, and writing.
Planned CS major (got 5 on AP last year), or IT major if I go to RIT.
CSL teams of schools I got into, please recruit me! :D
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On March 28 2013 04:12 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2013 03:26 babylon wrote:On March 27 2013 19:23 Recognizable wrote:
I looked at the SAT today. It seems like a pretty bullshit test. I don't even know what they want to test. General intelligence? Well why not just go for an IQ test? It seems you can practice plenty for this SAT. It also seems that they don't even want to test your Math skills because the questions are very basic and basically anyone can understand the material. Idk, weird test. It seems that the only thing important about the SAT is that it is a standardized test and everyone makes it so it's easy to compare. Wait until you look at the GRE. The math gets easier, the vocab gets twice as obscure. The best way* to practice is to sit in B&N with a coffee (feel free to treat yourself to a frap or some extravagantly sugary drink) and to just do practice tests for 2-4 hours a day (depending on your schedule). Don't forget to go over your answers and to read the explanations. Don't waste time reading the stuff in the practice books before the tests and such; you'll learn as you go, and it'll stick better. For SAT ... I remember liking Princeton Review, but I dunno if that's because it was easy or actually helpful ... Barrons is typically good, as well. I don't remember, really; I just grabbed books off the shelves. The key to acing these tests if you have adequate background in math and okay reading skills is to just know what the test-makers are looking for. I can't stress this enough, esp. for the verbal section. *By "best," I mean cheapest and most effective (for me). Many tutoring centers prefer using the CollegeBoard study books (the big blue books for SAT prep) over other ones, although certainly multiple books can be useful.
Think it's definitely good to get used to a wide variety of questions (and personally, I've always found the fake practice tests in other books more difficult than the actual test, which gives you a great confidence boost!). However, if you can get access to older tests, that's a great way to go as well.
Also, someone else said not to sweat it for the GRE. I still recommend sweating it a little bit, seeing as how it's occasionally used to determine funding allocation for grad students within a department ... would suck if you only have three years of funding instead of five years 'cause you missed a few more questions than your classmates.
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On March 28 2013 04:27 babylon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2013 04:12 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On March 28 2013 03:26 babylon wrote:On March 27 2013 19:23 Recognizable wrote:
I looked at the SAT today. It seems like a pretty bullshit test. I don't even know what they want to test. General intelligence? Well why not just go for an IQ test? It seems you can practice plenty for this SAT. It also seems that they don't even want to test your Math skills because the questions are very basic and basically anyone can understand the material. Idk, weird test. It seems that the only thing important about the SAT is that it is a standardized test and everyone makes it so it's easy to compare. Wait until you look at the GRE. The math gets easier, the vocab gets twice as obscure. The best way* to practice is to sit in B&N with a coffee (feel free to treat yourself to a frap or some extravagantly sugary drink) and to just do practice tests for 2-4 hours a day (depending on your schedule). Don't forget to go over your answers and to read the explanations. Don't waste time reading the stuff in the practice books before the tests and such; you'll learn as you go, and it'll stick better. For SAT ... I remember liking Princeton Review, but I dunno if that's because it was easy or actually helpful ... Barrons is typically good, as well. I don't remember, really; I just grabbed books off the shelves. The key to acing these tests if you have adequate background in math and okay reading skills is to just know what the test-makers are looking for. I can't stress this enough, esp. for the verbal section. *By "best," I mean cheapest and most effective (for me). Many tutoring centers prefer using the CollegeBoard study books (the big blue books for SAT prep) over other ones, although certainly multiple books can be useful. Think it's definitely good to get used to a wide variety of questions (and personally, I've always found the fake practice tests in other books more difficult than the actual test, which gives you a great confidence boost!). However, if you can get access to older tests, that's a great way to go as well. Also, someone else said not to sweat it for the GRE. I still recommend sweating it a little bit, seeing as how it's occasionally used to determine funding allocation for grad students within a department ... would suck if you only have three years of funding instead of five years 'cause you missed a few more questions than your classmates.
Yeah, the GRE is pretty much just the SAT on steroids.
I'd slightly increase the level of seriousness you take the former, especially if you didn't perform extremely well on the latter.
And I agree with you that taking practice tests is extremely important, as many students have bigger issues with the format than just the content.
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btw, good luck to all the USC applicants! apparently acceptance letters were mailed out yesterday. hopefully you'll be getting a bright red folder soon
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I heard that UC Berkeley (all UC's?) freshmen decisions get sent out tomorrow! Good luck
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i hear emory decisions are out (rather the emory facebook page says they are). anyone?
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Accepted to Mizzou! Had a 29 on the ACT.
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Anyone get accepted to CMU?
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On March 28 2013 09:56 Disregard wrote:
Anyone get accepted to CMU?
Got in to their math PhD program but probably going elsewhere. Might want to specify department/level though.
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On March 28 2013 10:05 SharkSpider wrote:Got in to their math PhD program but probably going elsewhere. Might want to specify department/level though.
QQ come here! CMU math all the way.
Except for the whole it being in Pittsburgh thing - that's not so great.
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On March 28 2013 04:17 Pokebunny wrote:
Grades - 88 average (3.3), but my school is pretty much the top in NYC and doesn't calculate class ranks or GPAs. I wish I went to an average school, woulda been easy 4.0 :/ (it's Hunter College High School for those who know of it).
No real achievements/accomplishments other than my SC2 career, which accounted for most of my extracurricular activity, between coaching, streaming, competing, casting, and writing.
Dude, you go to hunter college? That school is pretty amazing from what I hear. I know for a fact y'alls science bowl team is pretty good, they wiped the floor with us at nationals :/
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On March 28 2013 10:58 packrat386 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2013 04:17 Pokebunny wrote:
Grades - 88 average (3.3), but my school is pretty much the top in NYC and doesn't calculate class ranks or GPAs. I wish I went to an average school, woulda been easy 4.0 :/ (it's Hunter College High School for those who know of it).
No real achievements/accomplishments other than my SC2 career, which accounted for most of my extracurricular activity, between coaching, streaming, competing, casting, and writing.
Dude, you go to hunter college? That school is pretty amazing from what I hear. I know for a fact y'alls science bowl team is pretty good, they wiped the floor with us at nationals :/
Ehehe. HCHS destroying the world. D:
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I thought top school in NYC was SITHS =) Not a lot of TL'ers in CUNY, like myself.
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On March 28 2013 11:27 Pokebunny wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2013 10:58 packrat386 wrote:On March 28 2013 04:17 Pokebunny wrote:
Grades - 88 average (3.3), but my school is pretty much the top in NYC and doesn't calculate class ranks or GPAs. I wish I went to an average school, woulda been easy 4.0 :/ (it's Hunter College High School for those who know of it).
No real achievements/accomplishments other than my SC2 career, which accounted for most of my extracurricular activity, between coaching, streaming, competing, casting, and writing.
Dude, you go to hunter college? That school is pretty amazing from what I hear. I know for a fact y'alls science bowl team is pretty good, they wiped the floor with us at nationals :/ Ehehe. HCHS destroying the world. D:
They were really nice about it about though. Like everyone on the team remembers them as being the nicest team during the competition. They wiped the floor with us in an incredibly humble and sportsmanlike manner.
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Guys, for grad school, how did you make your final decision on where to attend? I'm jammed up on my final two schools and can't make up my mind. Losing sleep over this. It's so much harder to reject grad schools than undergrad since you're no longer "just a number," and everything's more personalized.
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On March 28 2013 14:06 Disregard wrote:
I thought top school in NYC was SITHS =) Not a lot of TL'ers in CUNY, like myself.
Alright, well I don't have any stats to back anything up, but Hunter/Stuyvesant are pretty much the big names as far as I know :p
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Princeton's coming out today.
7.29% overall acceptance rate. 5.44% for regular. GL erbode. Percents are down from last year (big surprise).
1931 accepted.
1395 on the wait list.
GL erbode.
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Good luck to ivy applicants! Go Big Red!!
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fingers crossed for my 1% chance at columbia
GL all TT
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Wow Columbia with the 6.59% admissions rate. Crazy.
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On March 29 2013 04:51 Peix wrote:
Wow Columbia with the 6.59% admissions rate. Crazy.
And the admissions rate for top universities get smaller and smaller every year. huehuehuehuehue EHEHEHEHEHEHE
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On March 28 2013 04:17 Pokebunny wrote:
Accepted: NYU Poly, RIT, Stevens, SUNY Binghamton, City College of NY
Rejected: Carnegie Mellon
TBD: Columbia (tomorrow, 99% rejection!)
Depending on finances, it'll probably be NYU Poly or RIT, leaning RIT.
Stats
SAT - 2300 (790M, 760CR, 750W)
SAT II - 760 Math2, 720 Physics
Grades - 88 average (3.3), but my school is pretty much the top in NYC and doesn't calculate class ranks or GPAs. I wish I went to an average school, woulda been easy 4.0 :/ (it's Hunter College High School for those who know of it).
No real achievements/accomplishments other than my SC2 career, which accounted for most of my extracurricular activity, between coaching, streaming, competing, casting, and writing.
Planned CS major (got 5 on AP last year), or IT major if I go to RIT.
CSL teams of schools I got into, please recruit me! :D
You wouldn't happen to know Jasper Bingham, would you?
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On March 29 2013 04:51 Peix wrote:
Wow Columbia with the 6.59% admissions rate. Crazy.
Honestly that's more due to the fact that everyone in the NYC area applies there, I don't think it's harder to get into than the other Ivies.
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Quoting myself from earlier in the thread for stats.
+ Show Spoiler +On March 17 2013 13:06 Brotatolol wrote:Was wondering when I would see this thread pop up, thanks for making it, OP. Anyway, here are my results thus far: Accepted: -Brown (Likely Letter) -Safeties Rejected: Caltech (applied EA) MIT (deferred EA into rejection) Waiting: Other Ivies, Carnegie Mellon, UC Berkeley Some stats of mine: 2260 SAT I (790 math, 750 CR, 720 writing) SAT II's: 760 math II, 740 physics GPA (weighted, 100 scale): 101.7 Rank: 3/~240 Several ECs relevant to my interests with decent positions in them. Work experience beyond your "average teenager job." White male Intended major: CS There you have it. Best of luck to everyone else waiting to hear back from schools. Congrats to those who already know what school they will be attending.
Accepted:
-Cornell
-Brown (expected due to the likely letter)
Waitlisted:
-Penn
-Carnegie Mellon
Rejected:
-Harvard (expected)
-Yale (expected)
-Princeton (expected)
-Columbia
-Dartmouth
-Berkeley (wasn't really expecting a rejection to be honest)
Despite receiving all of these rejections within like five minutes, I'm SO happy right now. I'm definitely leaning toward attending Cornell at the moment, though its too soon to decide for sure given the waitlisted schools.
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Ivypocalypse happened. Rejected from all of them that I applied to (Harvard, Princeton, Columbia, Cornell). Really happy with Rice, so it doesn't matter much. Unless Stanford takes me, this is going to be a really easy decision. Gratz to everybody who got in today, you guys are excellent!
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Just a hindsight comment from a current college freshman - I was really depressed about getting rejected from Rice, and "settled" on A&M (I'm studying computer engineering). I couldn't be happier here, I absolutely love it and couldn't see myself happier than rice. So basically, even if you get rejected from the school you were positive you wanted to go to, you might find you like your next choice more than you think you do. (Plus, I have a scholarship here, and it's not insanely expensive).
Also, any future aggies: we have an active and growing SC2 scene. PM me or find our TL community thread ^.^
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On March 29 2013 06:17 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2013 04:17 Pokebunny wrote:
Accepted: NYU Poly, RIT, Stevens, SUNY Binghamton, City College of NY
Rejected: Carnegie Mellon
TBD: Columbia (tomorrow, 99% rejection!)
Depending on finances, it'll probably be NYU Poly or RIT, leaning RIT.
Stats
SAT - 2300 (790M, 760CR, 750W)
SAT II - 760 Math2, 720 Physics
Grades - 88 average (3.3), but my school is pretty much the top in NYC and doesn't calculate class ranks or GPAs. I wish I went to an average school, woulda been easy 4.0 :/ (it's Hunter College High School for those who know of it).
No real achievements/accomplishments other than my SC2 career, which accounted for most of my extracurricular activity, between coaching, streaming, competing, casting, and writing.
Planned CS major (got 5 on AP last year), or IT major if I go to RIT.
CSL teams of schools I got into, please recruit me! :D You wouldn't happen to know Jasper Bingham, would you?
Yes, I know Jasper.
Nope from Columbia as expected.
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On March 29 2013 00:43 Pokebunny wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2013 14:06 Disregard wrote:
I thought top school in NYC was SITHS =) Not a lot of TL'ers in CUNY, like myself. Alright, well I don't have any stats to back anything up, but Hunter/Stuyvesant are pretty much the big names as far as I know :p
I heard Stuy isn't actually uber hard (from a handful of kids who go there), but it just has crazy name recognition. :<
Dammit y u kiddies no apply to Emory. Its k you'll realize that there was that one acceptance letter to that random school among all the rejections from HYPS and company (I hope).
EDIT: Holy poop, my high school is doing well. 5 or 6 Ivies, not including a girl who got Yale and another who got Harvard.
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YO
Any peoplez who gets into princeton
come to preview.
and come to the activities fair
and come to the starcraft booth
and then to come club later.
that is all
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Anyone studying Machine Learning and Data Mining in Aalto university or have some feedback? I'm looking to going there for my Masters in 2 years time. On my second year or bachelor studies, computer science.
Taking many courses on coursera and hoping to have 90%+ on most of them, which might help my CV and up my first year grades which were terrible, but now that second year has come, with more programming related subjects, I upped the ante.
(Judge yourself if the phrase was correctly used )
Anyways, thanks in advance.
EDIT: Any info on abroad Masters in the field of Computer science is relevant. I'm totally clueless as to the whole applying, evaluation, housing and was hoping to learn it by asking around and taking things one step at a time...
Copy pasting this from programming thread. Hope it's not forbidden.
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For those who are disappointed with their acceptances/rejections, know that where you go to college is far from what defines you. It is within you to become great, not within the name of your institution or your teachers.
If anyone has any questions concerning my school, RPI, feel free to PM me. Good luck with your decisions everyone!
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Brings back memories of this dance several years ago...
Sorry for the reverse discrimination white and asian males (asian male here).
Some reflections on college:
- If you are motivated, undergrad classes are pretty much useless (speaking for MIT / CMU here, skipped pretty much everything that wasn't required attendance). Psets at elite schools generally feel even more like a waste of time.
- Make awesome friends and learn from them and on your own. Do work with professors and companies in the area.
- Projects and endeavors you undertake matter way more to employers (and in life in general) than what classes you took.
- Most of us engineers couldn't care less what school you went to - in fact I find non-HYPMS people oftentimes more hungry and industry-ready (not to mention less elitist!).
Best of luck to everyone!
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So which of you NJ kids got massacred today and are coming to Rutgers?
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On March 29 2013 12:43 n.DieJokes wrote:
So which of you NJ kids got massacred today and are coming to Rutgers?
Haha Rutgers isn't even bad. I know a lot of kids from high school who struggled and would kill to go to Rutgers.
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On March 29 2013 08:09 Pokebunny wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2013 06:17 darthfoley wrote:On March 28 2013 04:17 Pokebunny wrote:
Accepted: NYU Poly, RIT, Stevens, SUNY Binghamton, City College of NY
Rejected: Carnegie Mellon
TBD: Columbia (tomorrow, 99% rejection!)
Depending on finances, it'll probably be NYU Poly or RIT, leaning RIT.
Stats
SAT - 2300 (790M, 760CR, 750W)
SAT II - 760 Math2, 720 Physics
Grades - 88 average (3.3), but my school is pretty much the top in NYC and doesn't calculate class ranks or GPAs. I wish I went to an average school, woulda been easy 4.0 :/ (it's Hunter College High School for those who know of it).
No real achievements/accomplishments other than my SC2 career, which accounted for most of my extracurricular activity, between coaching, streaming, competing, casting, and writing.
Planned CS major (got 5 on AP last year), or IT major if I go to RIT.
CSL teams of schools I got into, please recruit me! :D You wouldn't happen to know Jasper Bingham, would you? Yes, I know Jasper. Nope from Columbia as expected.
I literally just found out that I was rejected from Carnegie Mellon and Columbia as well I'll be going to either Santa Clara or Pepperdine (leaning towards Santa Clara) which isn't ideal. It feels like shit to read two rejection letters back to back.
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Accepted:
Carnegie Mellon University School of Computer Science(Extremely prestigious program, I still cannot believe it!!)
URochester, WPI, RPI, UMass Amherst, University of Washington, Tufts
Rejected:
Harvard, Cornell, MIT (expected)
Waitlisted at WashU St. Louis
CMU SCS '17!
I'll keep my stats to myself(don't really feel comfortable flaunting GPAs or SAT scores, because honestly they don't really make or break your application once you get into the top tier schools), but I still feel extremely lucky that I could get into even one reach school. Good luck to all of TL!
EDIT: Added tufts decision
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On March 29 2013 19:37 jWavA wrote:Accepted: Carnegie Mellon University School of Computer Science(Extremely prestigious program, I still cannot believe it!!) URochester, WPI, RPI, UMass Amherst, University of Washington Rejected: Harvard, Cornell, MIT (expected) Waitlisted at WashU St. Louis Tufts technically comes out today, but I think the only school that I would have gone to for Computer Science beyond CMU would probably have been Cornell, and even then probably not. Soooo CMU SCS '17! I'll keep my stats to myself(don't really feel comfortable flaunting GPAs or SAT scores, because honestly they don't really make or break your application once you get into the top tier schools), but I still feel extremely lucky that I could get into even one reach school. Good luck to all of TL!
welcome to cmu!
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Rutgers has a balance of the terribad and outstanding students. But anyway, congrats to all the CMU acceptances!
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On March 29 2013 12:43 n.DieJokes wrote:
So which of you NJ kids got massacred today and are coming to Rutgers?
Hey now
Seeing as how it's internationally recognized and has many top-ranked and prestigious programs (http://www.rutgers.edu/about-rutgers/national-rankings), not to mention it's extremely affordable compared to other Top 50/ 100 colleges in the country, there's nothing inherently wrong with going to Rutgers
As always, college is what you make of it.
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So, who got accepted to SPC Community?
Anyone? No?
I guess my school is just that high caliber.
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Accepted: Bucknell, William & Mary, University of Virginia, Duke
Rejected: UPenn, Brown
No planned major atm but leaning towards business
Kinda bummed I didn't get into Brown, but my top realistic choice was William & Mary so I'm crazy excited that I get to go there. I live in VA so it's actually really cheap for me.
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Rejected by Stanford + Amherst.
Waiting on vanderbilt...
this is such a depressing week
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Accepted:
University of Washington
Pacific Lutheran University
Western Washington University
Denied:
UCLA
Waitlisted:
Oberlin
Unknown:
University of Southern California
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3. Even if you feel like you're "settling" by going to a "lesser" school than whatever your dream school was, chances are that you'll find a ton of people at that school that are more driven, more talented, and more intelligent than you. Don't underestimate the caliber of students at any of the top schools or else you'll suddenly find yourself an average or below average student. What's wrong with average TL user being an average student? Maybe we are better than that. But I don't think this is something to be advertised in mod comments to a thread. This is exactly why TL got lots of bad reputation before (it got so huge).
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On March 30 2013 07:52 Cheerio wrote:Show nested quote +3. Even if you feel like you're "settling" by going to a "lesser" school than whatever your dream school was, chances are that you'll find a ton of people at that school that are more driven, more talented, and more intelligent than you. Don't underestimate the caliber of students at any of the top schools or else you'll suddenly find yourself an average or below average student. What's wrong with average TL user being an average student? Maybe we are better than that. But I don't think this is something to be advertised in mod comments to a thread. This is exactly why TL got lots of bad reputation before (it got so huge).
People who prefer videogames to sports are predisposed to do well at school. People reading this thread are more likely to really care about college, and therefore also more likely to be applying to competitive schools. It seems a reasonable and reassuring, although maybe overly paternalistic mod comment.
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On March 30 2013 09:11 Aerisky wrote:
Lol I feel like garbage. I know people from my school (which is normal enough) whom I thought were on similar standing as me going to Duke, Yale, Columbia, Stanford, and Princeton, maybe some others I haven't heard. I know others not from my school who are deciding among Yale, MIT, Stanford, Princeton, maybe more. I know it's a hollow and pointless endeavor listing shit out and comparing myself but I can't fucking help it. Like there's something wrong with me, like what I've done the past four years academically or whatever was for nothing.
I was in the exact same position as you 2 years ago, looking at your stats. In fact your SAT is even higher than mine. Ended up going to UCLA and liking it anyway. Don't feel bad about only getting into UC's. I'm sure you already know that you can choose not to look at it that way, but to be honored that they would accept you.
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I don't see what the negativity of UCs, many students here in NY want in on UCLA and the lot.
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On March 30 2013 09:11 Aerisky wrote:
Lol I feel like garbage. I know people from my school (which is normal enough) whom I thought were on similar standing as me going to Duke, Yale, Columbia, Stanford, and Princeton, maybe some others I haven't heard. I know others not from my school who are deciding among Yale, MIT, Stanford, Princeton, maybe more. I know it's a hollow and pointless endeavor listing shit out and comparing myself but I can't fucking help it. Like there's something wrong with me, like what I've done the past four years academically or whatever was for nothing.
Buck up, be proud. UCB is fantastic. What's more, you're getting great education for little cost as a CA resident. I don't know what income bracket your classmates fall in (or your income bracket), but I guarantee you that at least one of them is paying out of the nose for that education, which isn't even guaranteed to be better than yours.
+ Show Spoiler +I just visited UCB last week. Not for undergrad, but for grad school. Shit, son, what don't you like about it??? Coming from the Midwest and a school in a boring suburb forty-five minutes on public transit from anything fun, I gotta say that UCB is amazing. It's almost too nice; dunno how anyone gets work done there. Perfect blend of greenery + city life (campus feels like a national park!), melds together perfectly into the urban center, cafes everywhere, so many trees(!!!) and you can even get away really easily from the bustle if you need the space! I'm not even talking downtown San Fran, but just the Berkeley area by itself is great. You don't really get such a great combination of amazing weather, amazing city life, and amazing education at most schools anymore.
@ Disregard: People think that private schools > public schools. UCB and UMich are world-class institutions though, imo.
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Rejected by stanford amherst and vandy...
#moredepressing
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On March 30 2013 09:11 Aerisky wrote:
Lol I feel like garbage. I know people from my school (which is normal enough) whom I thought were on similar standing as me going to Duke, Yale, Columbia, Stanford, and Princeton, maybe some others I haven't heard. I know others not from my school who are deciding among Yale, MIT, Stanford, Princeton, maybe more. I know it's a hollow and pointless endeavor listing shit out and comparing myself but I can't fucking help it. Like there's something wrong with me, like what I've done the past four years academically or whatever was for nothing.
Hello. What was in your personal statement?
+2400 SAT
+3.9 UWGPA
+4.5 WGPA
-Asian Male
-Asian Male
-Asian Male
-Boring Asian Male
Make sure to get a bachelor's that will get will easily land you job. Start planning now and don't treat college like an extended high school.
The brand name of the school you get into is only a couple of letters on your resume. What you do outside of it, the actual real-life experience, is what employers look for.
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On March 30 2013 07:28 Aerisky wrote:Accepted: UIUC UC: Davis regents, SD regents, LA (rec was late, no regents), Berk (no invite for regents :C) Rejected: Cornell Columbia Harvard Penn MIT Stanford UMich, icing on the rejection cake Waitlisted: Princeton + Show Spoiler +Some stats of mine:
2400 SAT I
SAT IIs: 800 SAT II Physics, 790 US History, 790 Math, 760 Chemistry, 700 French w/o listening (lol)
APs: 5s on euro, USH, Physics B, calc BC, enviro. sci; 4 in chem, 3 in French lang; taking macro, micro, bio, psych, stat, amer gov, and eng lit this year--classes as well as exams
GPA: 4.53 weighted, 3.98 un
My school doesn't rank but I guess I'm somewhere in top 10% maybe
6-week research program in '11 and an internship last summer in line w/ my interests
Piano for 13+ years but hadn't been doing that well recently
I also was a peer mentor leader, and led a music group that performed for charity and raised money, really rewarding stuff and I urge any of the younger guys get into that if you can! Really great experience if you have anything like it on your high school campuses (or even outside of school).
Some other stuff not worth listing
Asian male
Intended major: EE though I'm not too sure Intellectually I was prepared for rejection but emotionally I still had some hopes. Nope. Really wanted to get out of my state and go somewhere else. It's sad because I feel like I could have put in easily 50% of the effort and probably still have done exactly as well, and have been happier for it (both because I'd have enjoyed life in hs more and because I'd actually feel happy to get accepted, instead of feeling like I had to "settle"). Well it's sad for a lot of reasons, but I'll leave it at that. Yesterday was not a fun day, reading 4 rejection letters and a waitlist letter back-to-back. Rejected from Stanford today to cap off an altogether shitty week in admissions and in general. I've visited most of the schools on my list and I really did not want to go to a UC though :/ UCB in particular I live very close to, and I didn't like it at all when I visited. Well, it's the best I've got and I'm honored they would take me when evidently nobody else wanted me. Probably going to end up going there and liking it (or so I hope), but for now I still feel like a failure. ILL gave me money but it's out of state so barely cheaper than UC, and I won't be able to switch out if I decide engineering isn't for me. Good luck with your ultimate decisions rising college frosh, there are some really bright kids here on TL!!
You are significantly over my level, since I had a .4 less gpa and much lower scores cuz of outside issues, but I can relate to what you are talking about emotionally. I want to commit suicide right now, I feel so disappointed in myself. I've spent the last 4 years taking enormous shit from my teachers, having tons of random family problems and attempting to work through it all to get into a school I love. I didn't get into any so far. I have been rejected from all but tufts. I got into 3 that aren't that great imo, they are midlevel. I don't know what to do with myself. I cried today looking at 3 of my rejections. I was told when I did the IB that I would get into where I wanted to if I did the work. My classes were hard, they didn't give A's in some cases, the teacher's weren't my advocates, in fact they lobbied to lower my grade, and colleges don't give 3 shits about the IB program or understand how it works. I kept on reading my John's Hopkins rejection over and over, looking at the part where it said that another institution that better fit my educational needs would take me in for sure. I've gotten into no such place. If I don't get into USC... I don't know what I'm going to do with myself. I've never hated myself so much in my entire life.
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On March 30 2013 07:28 Aerisky wrote:Accepted: UIUC UC: Davis regents, SD regents, LA (rec was late, no regents), Berk (no invite for regents :C) + Show Spoiler +Rejected: Cornell Columbia Harvard Penn MIT Stanford UMich, icing on the rejection cake Waitlisted: Princeton + Show Spoiler +Some stats of mine:
2400 SAT I
SAT IIs: 800 SAT II Physics, 790 US History, 790 Math, 760 Chemistry, 700 French w/o listening (lol)
APs: 5s on euro, USH, Physics B, calc BC, enviro. sci; 4 in chem, 3 in French lang; taking macro, micro, bio, psych, stat, amer gov, and eng lit this year--classes as well as exams
GPA: 4.53 weighted, 3.98 un
My school doesn't rank but I guess I'm somewhere in top 10% maybe
6-week research program in '11 and an internship last summer in line w/ my interests
Piano for 13+ years but hadn't been doing that well recently
I also was a peer mentor leader, and led a music group that performed for charity and raised money, really rewarding stuff and I urge any of the younger guys get into that if you can! Really great experience if you have anything like it on your high school campuses (or even outside of school).
Some other stuff not worth listing
Asian male
Intended major: EE though I'm not too sure Intellectually I was prepared for rejection but emotionally I still had some hopes. Nope. Really wanted to get out of my state and go somewhere else. It's sad because I feel like I could have put in easily 50% of the effort and probably still have done exactly as well, and have been happier for it (both because I'd have enjoyed life in hs more and because I'd actually feel happy to get accepted, instead of feeling like I had to "settle"). Well it's sad for a lot of reasons, but I'll leave it at that. Yesterday was not a fun day, reading 4 rejection letters and a waitlist letter back-to-back. Rejected from Stanford today to cap off an altogether shitty week in admissions and in general. I've visited most of the schools on my list and I really did not want to go to a UC though :/ UCB in particular I live very close to, and I didn't like it at all when I visited. Well, it's the best I've got and I'm honored they would take me when evidently nobody else wanted me. Probably going to end up going there and liking it (or so I hope), but for now I still feel like a failure. ILL gave me money but it's out of state so barely cheaper than UC, and I won't be able to switch out if I decide engineering isn't for me. Good luck with your ultimate decisions rising college frosh, there are some really bright kids here on TL!!
You might not of gotten into some of the IVY leagues, but trust me when I say this. You're better off.
The top UC schools offer comparable education for far less, this is especially true in regards to STEM majors. As a EE major, you actually stand to gain quite a bit going into Berkley, one of the top schools in regards to Engineering (top 3).
Don't even feel bad you didn't get into Ivy league schools, cuz you just saved yourself a fuckton of money.
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On March 30 2013 14:22 docvoc wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2013 07:28 Aerisky wrote:Accepted: UIUC UC: Davis regents, SD regents, LA (rec was late, no regents), Berk (no invite for regents :C) Rejected: Cornell Columbia Harvard Penn MIT Stanford UMich, icing on the rejection cake Waitlisted: Princeton + Show Spoiler +Some stats of mine:
2400 SAT I
SAT IIs: 800 SAT II Physics, 790 US History, 790 Math, 760 Chemistry, 700 French w/o listening (lol)
APs: 5s on euro, USH, Physics B, calc BC, enviro. sci; 4 in chem, 3 in French lang; taking macro, micro, bio, psych, stat, amer gov, and eng lit this year--classes as well as exams
GPA: 4.53 weighted, 3.98 un
My school doesn't rank but I guess I'm somewhere in top 10% maybe
6-week research program in '11 and an internship last summer in line w/ my interests
Piano for 13+ years but hadn't been doing that well recently
I also was a peer mentor leader, and led a music group that performed for charity and raised money, really rewarding stuff and I urge any of the younger guys get into that if you can! Really great experience if you have anything like it on your high school campuses (or even outside of school).
Some other stuff not worth listing
Asian male
Intended major: EE though I'm not too sure Intellectually I was prepared for rejection but emotionally I still had some hopes. Nope. Really wanted to get out of my state and go somewhere else. It's sad because I feel like I could have put in easily 50% of the effort and probably still have done exactly as well, and have been happier for it (both because I'd have enjoyed life in hs more and because I'd actually feel happy to get accepted, instead of feeling like I had to "settle"). Well it's sad for a lot of reasons, but I'll leave it at that. Yesterday was not a fun day, reading 4 rejection letters and a waitlist letter back-to-back. Rejected from Stanford today to cap off an altogether shitty week in admissions and in general. I've visited most of the schools on my list and I really did not want to go to a UC though :/ UCB in particular I live very close to, and I didn't like it at all when I visited. Well, it's the best I've got and I'm honored they would take me when evidently nobody else wanted me. Probably going to end up going there and liking it (or so I hope), but for now I still feel like a failure. ILL gave me money but it's out of state so barely cheaper than UC, and I won't be able to switch out if I decide engineering isn't for me. Good luck with your ultimate decisions rising college frosh, there are some really bright kids here on TL!! You are significantly over my level, since I had a .4 less gpa and much lower scores cuz of outside issues, but I can relate to what you are talking about emotionally. I want to commit suicide right now, I feel so disappointed in myself. I've spent the last 4 years taking enormous shit from my teachers, having tons of random family problems and attempting to work through it all to get into a school I love. I didn't get into any so far. I have been rejected from all but tufts. I got into 3 that aren't that great imo, they are midlevel. I don't know what to do with myself. I cried today looking at 3 of my rejections. I was told when I did the IB that I would get into where I wanted to if I did the work. My classes were hard, they didn't give A's in some cases, the teacher's weren't my advocates, in fact they lobbied to lower my grade, and colleges don't give 3 shits about the IB program or understand how it works. I kept on reading my John's Hopkins rejection over and over, looking at the part where it said that another institution that better fit my educational needs would take me in for sure. I've gotten into no such place. If I don't get into USC... I don't know what I'm going to do with myself. I've never hated myself so much in my entire life.
Dude, Tufts is an amazing T1 university. It's also near Boston.
PS: Baltimore sucks.
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I applied to UC Davis and got UC Davis. But I probably won't go.
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Applied and accepted to GMU, hope to meet some SC2 Masons there!
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On March 30 2013 14:22 docvoc wrote:
You are significantly over my level, since I had a .4 less gpa and much lower scores cuz of outside issues, but I can relate to what you are talking about emotionally. I want to commit suicide right now, I feel so disappointed in myself. I've spent the last 4 years taking enormous shit from my teachers, having tons of random family problems and attempting to work through it all to get into a school I love. I didn't get into any so far. I have been rejected from all but tufts. I got into 3 that aren't that great imo, they are midlevel. I don't know what to do with myself. I cried today looking at 3 of my rejections. I was told when I did the IB that I would get into where I wanted to if I did the work. My classes were hard, they didn't give A's in some cases, the teacher's weren't my advocates, in fact they lobbied to lower my grade, and colleges don't give 3 shits about the IB program or understand how it works. I kept on reading my John's Hopkins rejection over and over, looking at the part where it said that another institution that better fit my educational needs would take me in for sure. I've gotten into no such place. If I don't get into USC... I don't know what I'm going to do with myself. I've never hated myself so much in my entire life.
girls at tufts are way hotter and sluttier than the hopkin's lasses. there might be a silver lining here, possibly located in your underwear drawer.
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On March 30 2013 09:11 Aerisky wrote:
Lol I feel like garbage. I know people from my school (which is normal enough) whom I thought were on similar standing as me going to Duke, Yale, Columbia, Stanford, and Princeton, maybe some others I haven't heard. I know others not from my school who are deciding among Yale, MIT, Stanford, Princeton, maybe more. I know it's a hollow and pointless endeavor listing shit out and comparing myself but I can't fucking help it. Like there's something wrong with me, like what I've done the past four years academically or whatever was for nothing.
Maybe undergrad is different but as a gradstudent both me and the people I know here chose UCB _over_ the ivies. We didnt go due to lack of options. Seriously the school is really good and you shouldnt be too upset. As a undergrad they will hold your hand less than they would have at say yale, but as long as you are independent, hard working and know how to seek opportunities the opportunities you do find here will not be inferior to the ones at the schools you mentioned.
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+ Show Spoiler [results] +Accepted:
Berkeley (deferred admission)
UCLA
UCSD regents
UCD regents
UCI regents
UCSB regents
UMich
CMU (college of arts and sciences)
WashU (with large scholarship)
Waitlist:
CMU (computer science)
Reject:
Cornell
Harvey Mudd
MIT
Caltech
Brown
+ Show Spoiler [stats] +SAT- 2320 (800 math 770 cr 750 writing)
SATIIs- 800 math2, 800 physics, 790 bioe, 770 chem
APs-Stats, Psych, Chem, Physics B, Calc BC+subscore (all 5), taking English and Physics C this year
GPA- 3.8 unweighted, decently rigorous courses (but none of the self-study APs and community college courses that many of my classmates have)
ECs- bad. Basically only do contest math, which I did poorly on and had no major accomplishments (AIME but no USAMO, very active and participated in a bunch of stuff throughout the years but never really won much). Spent summers at AwesomeMath summer camp.
Essays- mehhhhhh
Interviews- bad
Asian male, California Bay Area
Highly competitive public school, class size ~600
Applied mostly for math departments
Probably looking to go to Cal, as CMU is twice as expensive.
No real surprises IMO, though I wasn't aware that it was possible to get deferred admission for Cal.
+ Show Spoiler [qq rant] + Spent most of high school derping, doing nothing, and wanting to get good at math + videogames and in the end doing neither. I was definitely capable of doing a lot better, but I'm bad at life. Leaving high school, I feel that I've learned very little, accomplished very little, and haven't learned how to apply myself. I'm scared that maybe I'll never stop being a scrub and that I'll never become actually good at anything. Hopefully I'll learn and gain a lot from college, even if I'm not going to my dream school (MIT).
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Did admissions get harder? Holy shit... I'm looking at some of the member's SATs and GPAs and I feel 4 years ago you would've gotten in to the Ivys imo...
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SATs and GPAs don't matter as much for Ivys anymore, they're looking for talent and creativity or if you're good at sports. The admission rates for them are so inflated due to every other student trying to get in.
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On March 30 2013 14:55 babylon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2013 14:22 docvoc wrote:On March 30 2013 07:28 Aerisky wrote:Accepted: UIUC UC: Davis regents, SD regents, LA (rec was late, no regents), Berk (no invite for regents :C) Rejected: Cornell Columbia Harvard Penn MIT Stanford UMich, icing on the rejection cake Waitlisted: Princeton + Show Spoiler +Some stats of mine:
2400 SAT I
SAT IIs: 800 SAT II Physics, 790 US History, 790 Math, 760 Chemistry, 700 French w/o listening (lol)
APs: 5s on euro, USH, Physics B, calc BC, enviro. sci; 4 in chem, 3 in French lang; taking macro, micro, bio, psych, stat, amer gov, and eng lit this year--classes as well as exams
GPA: 4.53 weighted, 3.98 un
My school doesn't rank but I guess I'm somewhere in top 10% maybe
6-week research program in '11 and an internship last summer in line w/ my interests
Piano for 13+ years but hadn't been doing that well recently
I also was a peer mentor leader, and led a music group that performed for charity and raised money, really rewarding stuff and I urge any of the younger guys get into that if you can! Really great experience if you have anything like it on your high school campuses (or even outside of school).
Some other stuff not worth listing
Asian male
Intended major: EE though I'm not too sure Intellectually I was prepared for rejection but emotionally I still had some hopes. Nope. Really wanted to get out of my state and go somewhere else. It's sad because I feel like I could have put in easily 50% of the effort and probably still have done exactly as well, and have been happier for it (both because I'd have enjoyed life in hs more and because I'd actually feel happy to get accepted, instead of feeling like I had to "settle"). Well it's sad for a lot of reasons, but I'll leave it at that. Yesterday was not a fun day, reading 4 rejection letters and a waitlist letter back-to-back. Rejected from Stanford today to cap off an altogether shitty week in admissions and in general. I've visited most of the schools on my list and I really did not want to go to a UC though :/ UCB in particular I live very close to, and I didn't like it at all when I visited. Well, it's the best I've got and I'm honored they would take me when evidently nobody else wanted me. Probably going to end up going there and liking it (or so I hope), but for now I still feel like a failure. ILL gave me money but it's out of state so barely cheaper than UC, and I won't be able to switch out if I decide engineering isn't for me. Good luck with your ultimate decisions rising college frosh, there are some really bright kids here on TL!! You are significantly over my level, since I had a .4 less gpa and much lower scores cuz of outside issues, but I can relate to what you are talking about emotionally. I want to commit suicide right now, I feel so disappointed in myself. I've spent the last 4 years taking enormous shit from my teachers, having tons of random family problems and attempting to work through it all to get into a school I love. I didn't get into any so far. I have been rejected from all but tufts. I got into 3 that aren't that great imo, they are midlevel. I don't know what to do with myself. I cried today looking at 3 of my rejections. I was told when I did the IB that I would get into where I wanted to if I did the work. My classes were hard, they didn't give A's in some cases, the teacher's weren't my advocates, in fact they lobbied to lower my grade, and colleges don't give 3 shits about the IB program or understand how it works. I kept on reading my John's Hopkins rejection over and over, looking at the part where it said that another institution that better fit my educational needs would take me in for sure. I've gotten into no such place. If I don't get into USC... I don't know what I'm going to do with myself. I've never hated myself so much in my entire life. Dude, Tufts is an amazing T1 university. It's also near Boston. PS: Baltimore sucks.
I know it is, but I'm a legacy there. That is the only reason I was waitlisted I feel, and if that is true, I won't be taken off the waitlist . I hope I get into USC, that would be the last school that I would be applying to that didn't ask to me apply.
Guys I need some help understanding some schools, how good are St. John's College, Hofstra, Oglethorpe, and RPI (note they want me for liberal arts, not maths). Those schools wanted me to apply, should I go to any of these?
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On March 30 2013 22:40 docvoc wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2013 14:55 babylon wrote:On March 30 2013 14:22 docvoc wrote:On March 30 2013 07:28 Aerisky wrote:Accepted: UIUC UC: Davis regents, SD regents, LA (rec was late, no regents), Berk (no invite for regents :C) Rejected: Cornell Columbia Harvard Penn MIT Stanford UMich, icing on the rejection cake Waitlisted: Princeton + Show Spoiler +Some stats of mine:
2400 SAT I
SAT IIs: 800 SAT II Physics, 790 US History, 790 Math, 760 Chemistry, 700 French w/o listening (lol)
APs: 5s on euro, USH, Physics B, calc BC, enviro. sci; 4 in chem, 3 in French lang; taking macro, micro, bio, psych, stat, amer gov, and eng lit this year--classes as well as exams
GPA: 4.53 weighted, 3.98 un
My school doesn't rank but I guess I'm somewhere in top 10% maybe
6-week research program in '11 and an internship last summer in line w/ my interests
Piano for 13+ years but hadn't been doing that well recently
I also was a peer mentor leader, and led a music group that performed for charity and raised money, really rewarding stuff and I urge any of the younger guys get into that if you can! Really great experience if you have anything like it on your high school campuses (or even outside of school).
Some other stuff not worth listing
Asian male
Intended major: EE though I'm not too sure Intellectually I was prepared for rejection but emotionally I still had some hopes. Nope. Really wanted to get out of my state and go somewhere else. It's sad because I feel like I could have put in easily 50% of the effort and probably still have done exactly as well, and have been happier for it (both because I'd have enjoyed life in hs more and because I'd actually feel happy to get accepted, instead of feeling like I had to "settle"). Well it's sad for a lot of reasons, but I'll leave it at that. Yesterday was not a fun day, reading 4 rejection letters and a waitlist letter back-to-back. Rejected from Stanford today to cap off an altogether shitty week in admissions and in general. I've visited most of the schools on my list and I really did not want to go to a UC though :/ UCB in particular I live very close to, and I didn't like it at all when I visited. Well, it's the best I've got and I'm honored they would take me when evidently nobody else wanted me. Probably going to end up going there and liking it (or so I hope), but for now I still feel like a failure. ILL gave me money but it's out of state so barely cheaper than UC, and I won't be able to switch out if I decide engineering isn't for me. Good luck with your ultimate decisions rising college frosh, there are some really bright kids here on TL!! You are significantly over my level, since I had a .4 less gpa and much lower scores cuz of outside issues, but I can relate to what you are talking about emotionally. I want to commit suicide right now, I feel so disappointed in myself. I've spent the last 4 years taking enormous shit from my teachers, having tons of random family problems and attempting to work through it all to get into a school I love. I didn't get into any so far. I have been rejected from all but tufts. I got into 3 that aren't that great imo, they are midlevel. I don't know what to do with myself. I cried today looking at 3 of my rejections. I was told when I did the IB that I would get into where I wanted to if I did the work. My classes were hard, they didn't give A's in some cases, the teacher's weren't my advocates, in fact they lobbied to lower my grade, and colleges don't give 3 shits about the IB program or understand how it works. I kept on reading my John's Hopkins rejection over and over, looking at the part where it said that another institution that better fit my educational needs would take me in for sure. I've gotten into no such place. If I don't get into USC... I don't know what I'm going to do with myself. I've never hated myself so much in my entire life. Dude, Tufts is an amazing T1 university. It's also near Boston. PS: Baltimore sucks. I know it is, but I'm a legacy there. That is the only reason I was waitlisted I feel, and if that is true, I won't be taken off the waitlist . I hope I get into USC, that would be the last school that I would be applying to that didn't ask to me apply. Guys I need some help understanding some schools, how good are St. John's College, Hofstra, Oglethorpe, and RPI (note they want me for liberal arts, not maths). Those schools wanted me to apply, should I go to any of these?
Every school initially wants you to apply to them.
That way they have more options and the possibility for better students. Larger sample size, blah blah blah.
Most of the invitations are hollow until they actually see your application, and so even the warmest gesture of "You really need to apply to us; don't worry about not getting in- you're a shoo-in  " means nothing if you don't have what they're looking for. I've seen legacies turned down at the universities that their entire families went to; nothing's decided before you apply.
As far as whether or not you should go to College X: It should line up with your potential interests, it should be affordable, and it should have a variety of other interesting programs, clubs, courses, and other things you might consider checking out in college.
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On March 17 2013 12:36 Grimmyman123 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 12:25 LosingID8 wrote:On March 17 2013 12:19 Grimmyman123 wrote:
Its a look at me and how smart I am thread! there's always someone like this every year kids worked hard for 4 years to gain these acceptances. let them have their 15 minutes of fame. I went back to school and busted my ass to learn the new curriculum, suffered as old course codes no longer applied, and smashed my grades with above 95% average of my courses taken and you don't see my boasting,bragging and showing off.
We just did
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On March 30 2013 16:23 Disregard wrote:
SATs and GPAs don't matter as much for Ivys anymore, they're looking for talent and creativity or if you're good at sports. The admission rates for them are so inflated due to every other student trying to get in.
SAT + GPAs are just a "filter" for Ivy Leagues now. That means they'll auto filter out anyone who's GPA and SAT aren't high enough; then they go through the rest of admissions.
http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2012/12/19/fears-of-an-asian-quota-in-the-ivy-league/statistics-indicate-an-ivy-league-asian-quota
Interesting article; I think it's sort of a known secret that Ivy leagues have been starting to limit the percentage of AA in their schools; otherwise they'd end up like UC system where it's like 40% asian americans.
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Accepted: Boston University, Boston College, University of Michigan, Penn State, SUNY Binghamton
Rejected: CMU, NYU stern , Cornell (obv)
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Any wannabe dentists may drop me a PM if they're interested in the course.
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So you did not get into an Ivy league school?
I mean whoop f*cking whoop. It's not like being the most selective university means being the best.
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On March 30 2013 23:36 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2013 16:23 Disregard wrote:
SATs and GPAs don't matter as much for Ivys anymore, they're looking for talent and creativity or if you're good at sports. The admission rates for them are so inflated due to every other student trying to get in. SAT + GPAs are just a "filter" for Ivy Leagues now. That means they'll auto filter out anyone who's GPA and SAT aren't high enough; then they go through the rest of admissions. http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2012/12/19/fears-of-an-asian-quota-in-the-ivy-league/statistics-indicate-an-ivy-league-asian-quotaInteresting article; I think it's sort of a known secret that Ivy leagues have been starting to limit the percentage of AA in their schools; otherwise they'd end up like UC system where it's like 40% asian americans.
Pour more money into the universities with no affirmative action so that they become better than the Ivies.
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On March 31 2013 01:04 julianto wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2013 23:36 wei2coolman wrote:On March 30 2013 16:23 Disregard wrote:
SATs and GPAs don't matter as much for Ivys anymore, they're looking for talent and creativity or if you're good at sports. The admission rates for them are so inflated due to every other student trying to get in. SAT + GPAs are just a "filter" for Ivy Leagues now. That means they'll auto filter out anyone who's GPA and SAT aren't high enough; then they go through the rest of admissions. http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2012/12/19/fears-of-an-asian-quota-in-the-ivy-league/statistics-indicate-an-ivy-league-asian-quotaInteresting article; I think it's sort of a known secret that Ivy leagues have been starting to limit the percentage of AA in their schools; otherwise they'd end up like UC system where it's like 40% asian americans. Pour more money into the universities with no affirmative action so that they become better than the Ivies.
I don't think that'll help much. One of the reasons Ivy's are the best is because everyone thinks they are the best and thus attract the most talent/funding and best professors.
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just saw this thread.
admissions were so hard this year! I got mostly rejections
wasn't left with many options but I would REALLY appreciate any information or advice you may have on these schools:
Accepted:
College of William and Mary
Boston University
Oberlin
Rutgers
Ursinus
Waitlisted:
NYU Stern
George Washington
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On March 31 2013 01:23 Recognizable wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2013 01:04 julianto wrote:On March 30 2013 23:36 wei2coolman wrote:On March 30 2013 16:23 Disregard wrote:
SATs and GPAs don't matter as much for Ivys anymore, they're looking for talent and creativity or if you're good at sports. The admission rates for them are so inflated due to every other student trying to get in. SAT + GPAs are just a "filter" for Ivy Leagues now. That means they'll auto filter out anyone who's GPA and SAT aren't high enough; then they go through the rest of admissions. http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2012/12/19/fears-of-an-asian-quota-in-the-ivy-league/statistics-indicate-an-ivy-league-asian-quotaInteresting article; I think it's sort of a known secret that Ivy leagues have been starting to limit the percentage of AA in their schools; otherwise they'd end up like UC system where it's like 40% asian americans. Pour more money into the universities with no affirmative action so that they become better than the Ivies. I don't think that'll help much. One of the reasons Ivy's are the best is because everyone thinks they are the best and thus attract the most talent/funding and best professors.
UC's are proof otherwise. Best public school system, and offers comparable education, and more often than not rank in the same places as IVY leagues. UCSD/UCLA/UCB; all rank equally with Ivys, and are much cheaper. Ivy tuition cost is expensive as fuck, but that's more so because it's a private school system, not because they're "top tier". A lot of private universities cost as much as Ivy league schools, even if they aren't as well known.
Even the lower UC System schools like UCD/UCI/UCSB/UCSC/UCR, rank very favorably over all in comparison to overall top universities in the US.
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On March 31 2013 01:42 tozi wrote:just saw this thread. admissions were so hard this year! I got mostly rejections wasn't left with many options but I would REALLY appreciate any information or advice you may have on these schools: Accepted: College of William and Mary Boston University Oberlin Rutgers Ursinus Waitlisted: NYU Stern George Washington
I'm from VA, and I know a ton of really smart, chill people at W&M, so you should definitely look into that, especially if you're in VA. Oberlin, as I understand, is much weirder than all the other places you got in (which isn't necessarily a bad thing if you're into that) so take that for what it's worth.
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On March 30 2013 15:31 iaeuy wrote:+ Show Spoiler [results] +Accepted:
Berkeley (deferred admission)
UCLA
UCSD regents
UCD regents
UCI regents
UCSB regents
UMich
CMU (college of arts and sciences)
WashU (with large scholarship)
Waitlist:
CMU (computer science)
Reject:
Cornell
Harvey Mudd
MIT
Caltech
Brown SAT- 2320 (800 math 770 cr 750 writing)
SATIIs- 800 math2, 800 physics, 790 bioe, 770 chem
APs-Stats, Psych, Chem, Physics B, Calc BC+subscore (all 5), taking English and Physics C this year
GPA- 3.8 unweighted, decently rigorous courses (but none of the self-study APs and community college courses that many of my classmates have)
ECs- bad. Basically only do contest math, which I did poorly on and had no major accomplishments (AIME but no USAMO, very active and participated in a bunch of stuff throughout the years but never really won much). Spent summers at AwesomeMath summer camp.
Essays- mehhhhhh
Interviews- bad
Asian male, California Bay Area
Highly competitive public school, class size ~600
Applied mostly for math departments Probably looking to go to Cal, as CMU is twice as expensive. No real surprises IMO, though I wasn't aware that it was possible to get deferred admission for Cal. + Show Spoiler [qq rant] + Spent most of high school derping, doing nothing, and wanting to get good at math + videogames and in the end doing neither. I was definitely capable of doing a lot better, but I'm bad at life. Leaving high school, I feel that I've learned very little, accomplished very little, and haven't learned how to apply myself. I'm scared that maybe I'll never stop being a scrub and that I'll never become actually good at anything. Hopefully I'll learn and gain a lot from college, even if I'm not going to my dream school (MIT).
Getting into UCB or UCLA is good. The LA Times just came out with an article recently displaying the statistics of applications to of all the UCs. Over 80,000 people applied to UCLA as coming in as freshman (another 20,000 as transfer students), while another 65,000 to UCB. To be on of those, (don't know here just guessing) lets say, your one out of the 7000 people accepted to UCLA, that's pretty damn good.
And regarding your statement "Im bad at life," no your not. You kicked ass at highschool, and kudos for doing so.
Last comment, if you excel in college, who knows, (also depending on what you want to do) you could get into MIT for grad school.
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On March 31 2013 01:42 tozi wrote:just saw this thread. admissions were so hard this year! I got mostly rejections wasn't left with many options but I would REALLY appreciate any information or advice you may have on these schools: Accepted: College of William and Mary Boston University Oberlin Rutgers Ursinus Waitlisted: NYU Stern George Washington
I know a ton about Rutgers University. Shoot me a PM if you have any particular questions about being a Scarlet Knight
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On March 31 2013 01:51 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2013 01:23 Recognizable wrote:On March 31 2013 01:04 julianto wrote:On March 30 2013 23:36 wei2coolman wrote:On March 30 2013 16:23 Disregard wrote:
SATs and GPAs don't matter as much for Ivys anymore, they're looking for talent and creativity or if you're good at sports. The admission rates for them are so inflated due to every other student trying to get in. SAT + GPAs are just a "filter" for Ivy Leagues now. That means they'll auto filter out anyone who's GPA and SAT aren't high enough; then they go through the rest of admissions. http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2012/12/19/fears-of-an-asian-quota-in-the-ivy-league/statistics-indicate-an-ivy-league-asian-quotaInteresting article; I think it's sort of a known secret that Ivy leagues have been starting to limit the percentage of AA in their schools; otherwise they'd end up like UC system where it's like 40% asian americans. Pour more money into the universities with no affirmative action so that they become better than the Ivies. I don't think that'll help much. One of the reasons Ivy's are the best is because everyone thinks they are the best and thus attract the most talent/funding and best professors. UC's are proof otherwise. Best public school system, and offers comparable education, and more often than not rank in the same places as IVY leagues. UCSD/UCLA/UCB; all rank equally with Ivys, and are much cheaper. Ivy tuition cost is expensive as fuck, but that's more so because it's a private school system, not because they're "top tier". A lot of private universities cost as much as Ivy league schools, even if they aren't as well known. Even the lower UC System schools like UCD/UCI/UCSB/UCSC/UCR, rank very favorably over all in comparison to overall top universities in the US.
According to recent rankings, UCD (not overall), has matched, and even in some cases, out ranked some Ivy leagues.
Overall ranking for UCD is relatively good also, like 70th or something.
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I got accepted to university of phoenix XD
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Fuck college admissions. That is the moral to this story.
Credentials:
+ Show Spoiler +Pros:
-3.71UW/4.57W GPA (out of 4)
-IB Diploma Student
-5 years living abroad experience
-Bilingual
-4 year football player; 2X captain (led our team to first winning season in 13 years)
-3 year track&field 1X captain
-Studied for a month in France as part of the Tufts Summit European Center Program
-National Honor Society
-Foreign Language Honor Society
-5 AP GOV, 4 AP USH (as a freshman)
-Attend a minority majority high school (avg SAT score is 1540/2400)
-Football accolades (1st team all county blablabla 2X years)
-Great rec letters
-Very good essays (e.g - "Sleeping With Monks: A Personal Adventure")
-VERY good alumni interviews
-Helped out a lot at community events for the school, PTSA, summer camp, etc.
Cons:
-1940 SAT (made me want to kill myself lol)
-620 French SAT2 (i'm much better speaking than writing/grammar)
-600 Biology SAT2
-Caucasian
The one thing about the IB program, the classes are two years long. I had only had the first year of biology before I had to take the SAT2, so I had not learned neurobiology, hormones, etc. which show up very frequently on the SAT2.
The SAT really fucked me up. I see so many people with nigh perfect SATs, and SAT2s. It's really depressing.
Accepted:
Franklin&Marshall
Dickinson
Waitlisted
Middlebury (understandable, hoping to get in off waitlist)
Richmond (LMAO FUCK THAT)
Rejected:
Harvard (EA)
Stanford
Rice
Northwestern
Vanderbilt
Amherst college
I'm so disappointed. Thought I'd get into Richmond for sure. Was hoping to get into one of Middlebury/Amherst. Sigh, I can't help but think my SAT scores really fucked up my chances. Got into my 2 safety schools, but oh well.
Working my ass off for 4 years with these shit results?
I advise anyone reading this to drop out and create Apple, because there is no other way to get into Ivy. Unless you have legacy, of course
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Accepted: HanSei University Masters Program in Gyeong gi do Korea, Full Scholorship (tuition + Studio Apt)
Nyack College in NYC
Rejected: Yonsei University in Seoul Korea
For stats:
3.85 GPA
White male from Bronx, NY
Good luck tot he rest of you
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On March 31 2013 02:29 darthfoley wrote:Fuck college admissions. That is the moral to this story. Credentials: + Show Spoiler +Pros:
-3.71UW/4.57W GPA (out of 4)
-IB Diploma Student
-5 years living abroad experience
-Bilingual
-4 year football player; 2X captain (led our team to first winning season in 13 years)
-3 year track&field 1X captain
-Studied for a month in France as part of the Tufts Summit European Center Program
-National Honor Society
-Foreign Language Honor Society
-5 AP GOV, 4 AP USH (as a freshman)
-Attend a minority majority high school (avg SAT score is 1540/2400)
-Football accolades (1st team all county blablabla 2X years)
-Great rec letters
-Very good essays (e.g - "Sleeping With Monks: A Personal Adventure")
-VERY good alumni interviews
-Helped out a lot at community events for the school, PTSA, summer camp, etc.
Cons:
-1940 SAT (made me want to kill myself lol)
-620 French SAT2 (i'm much better speaking than writing/grammar)
-600 Biology SAT2
-Caucasian
The one thing about the IB program, the classes are two years long. I had only had the first year of biology before I had to take the SAT2, so I had not learned neurobiology, hormones, etc. which show up very frequently on the SAT2.
The SAT really fucked me up. I see so many people with nigh perfect SATs, and SAT2s. It's really depressing. Franklin&Marshall Dickinson WaitlistedMiddlebury (understandable, hoping to get in off waitlist) Richmond (LMAO FUCK THAT) Rejected:Harvard (EA) Stanford Rice Northwestern Vanderbilt Amherst college I'm so disappointed. Thought I'd get into Richmond for sure. Was hoping to get into one of Middlebury/Amherst. Sigh, I can't help but think my SAT scores really fucked up my chances. Got into my 2 safety schools, but oh well. Working my ass off for 4 years with these shit results? I advise anyone reading this to drop out and create Apple, because there is no other way to get into Ivy. Unless you have legacy, of course
This is me. I got waitlisted at Tufts, but apparently I have a good shot at getting in. I'm checking today if I got into USC, I'm giong to jump for joy if I did. Fuck college admissions. I've seen people with worse resumee's than me get into better schools simply by being a minority, this is so frustrating lol.
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For me, I think I'm going to either William and Mary or Boston university.
I'm planning on working hard in college and eventually try to get into a top law school/grad school.
Do you guys have any opinions on which one would be better for me in that regard?
My impressions. Correct me if I'm wrong
William and Mary: Smaller, better professors, research (?), closer smaller knit community
Boston University: Bigger, maybe more money, in an amazing college town, more stuff going on.
How about academic prestige? Which one would be better in eventual grad school admission?
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On March 31 2013 02:29 darthfoley wrote:Fuck college admissions. That is the moral to this story. Credentials: + Show Spoiler +Pros:
-3.71UW/4.57W GPA (out of 4)
-IB Diploma Student
-5 years living abroad experience
-Bilingual
-4 year football player; 2X captain (led our team to first winning season in 13 years)
-3 year track&field 1X captain
-Studied for a month in France as part of the Tufts Summit European Center Program
-National Honor Society
-Foreign Language Honor Society
-5 AP GOV, 4 AP USH (as a freshman)
-Attend a minority majority high school (avg SAT score is 1540/2400)
-Football accolades (1st team all county blablabla 2X years)
-Great rec letters
-Very good essays (e.g - "Sleeping With Monks: A Personal Adventure")
-VERY good alumni interviews
-Helped out a lot at community events for the school, PTSA, summer camp, etc.
Cons:
-1940 SAT (made me want to kill myself lol)
-620 French SAT2 (i'm much better speaking than writing/grammar)
-600 Biology SAT2
-Caucasian
The one thing about the IB program, the classes are two years long. I had only had the first year of biology before I had to take the SAT2, so I had not learned neurobiology, hormones, etc. which show up very frequently on the SAT2.
The SAT really fucked me up. I see so many people with nigh perfect SATs, and SAT2s. It's really depressing. Franklin&Marshall Dickinson WaitlistedMiddlebury (understandable, hoping to get in off waitlist) Richmond (LMAO FUCK THAT) Rejected:Harvard (EA) Stanford Rice Northwestern Vanderbilt Amherst college I'm so disappointed. Thought I'd get into Richmond for sure. Was hoping to get into one of Middlebury/Amherst. Sigh, I can't help but think my SAT scores really fucked up my chances. Got into my 2 safety schools, but oh well. Working my ass off for 4 years with these shit results? I advise anyone reading this to drop out and create Apple, because there is no other way to get into Ivy. Unless you have legacy, of course
I know a girl who got into Princeton and Stanford. She's one of the most impossibly boring people I've ever met, and she isn't even terribly bright. Possibly the smartest and nicest guy I've ever met got rejected from Amherst. So yeah, don't swallow the whole, "where you got into college is a reflection of you thing," because it's bullshit.
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g/f got in to UMN Carlson for grad school, woohoo (I ain't fuckin' moving back to that frozen barren wasteland, but still a great school).
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On March 31 2013 02:52 tozi wrote:
For me, I think I'm going to either William and Mary or Boston university.
I'm planning on working hard in college and eventually try to get into a top law school/grad school.
Do you guys have any opinions on which one would be better for me in that regard?
My impressions. Correct me if I'm wrong
William and Mary: Smaller, better professors, research (?), closer smaller knit community
Boston University: Bigger, maybe more money, in an amazing college town, more stuff going on.
How about academic prestige? Which one would be better in eventual grad school admission?
Dunno either of those that well, but for grad school, the prestige of your undergrad school does not matter a whit, and both schools are prestigious enough. What matters are your LORs (cozy up to profs, bonus points if they know profs at the schools you are applying to) and research experience.
For law school, go to the place where you can get the highest grades.
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On March 31 2013 03:24 babylon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2013 02:52 tozi wrote:
For me, I think I'm going to either William and Mary or Boston university.
I'm planning on working hard in college and eventually try to get into a top law school/grad school.
Do you guys have any opinions on which one would be better for me in that regard?
My impressions. Correct me if I'm wrong
William and Mary: Smaller, better professors, research (?), closer smaller knit community
Boston University: Bigger, maybe more money, in an amazing college town, more stuff going on.
How about academic prestige? Which one would be better in eventual grad school admission? Dunno either of those that well, but for grad school, the prestige of your undergrad school does not matter a whit, and both schools are prestigious enough. What matters are your LORs (cozy up to profs, bonus points if they know profs at the schools you are applying to) and research experience. For law school, go to the place where you can get the highest grades.
There should be a featured thread on TL about grad school admissions to ease the worries of fine folks like tozi (for all types of programs, since they vary in what they look for).
I agree with babylon - to a point - about "[going] to the place where you can get the highest grades."
If you're smart and driven, you can get good grades. It's not that hard. Pick a school that you like and a major that you like. If you can wrangle a 3.5 GPA in history (and let's be honest - who can't) and a 90th percentile LSAT, you have a fighting chance at most law schools. The name of your undergrad has very little bearing on your application. Smart is smart. I can't speak to other grad programs.
College is more about discovering yourself as a person. It's the only four years of your life where you can literally do anything and justify it as an academic learning experience. Make sure the school you pick is one you can be happy at.
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BU is a nice place. Pleasant part of the city, easy access to every other part of the city, lovely ivy covered buildings. Plenty of extracurricular things available. The major cons with BU are that (1) you aren't BC, and (2) that you are in the middle of a city, which isn't for everyone. I recommend visiting.
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On March 31 2013 03:39 remedium wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2013 03:24 babylon wrote:On March 31 2013 02:52 tozi wrote:
For me, I think I'm going to either William and Mary or Boston university.
I'm planning on working hard in college and eventually try to get into a top law school/grad school.
Do you guys have any opinions on which one would be better for me in that regard?
My impressions. Correct me if I'm wrong
William and Mary: Smaller, better professors, research (?), closer smaller knit community
Boston University: Bigger, maybe more money, in an amazing college town, more stuff going on.
How about academic prestige? Which one would be better in eventual grad school admission? Dunno either of those that well, but for grad school, the prestige of your undergrad school does not matter a whit, and both schools are prestigious enough. What matters are your LORs (cozy up to profs, bonus points if they know profs at the schools you are applying to) and research experience. For law school, go to the place where you can get the highest grades. There should be a featured thread on TL about grad school admissions to ease the worries of fine folks like tozi (for all types of programs, since they vary in what they look for). I agree with babylon - to a point - about "[going] to the place where you can get the highest grades." If you're smart and driven, you can get good grades. It's not that hard. Pick a school that you like and a major that you like. If you can wrangle a 3.5 GPA in history (and let's be honest - who can't) and a 90th percentile LSAT, you have a fighting chance at most law schools. The name of your undergrad has very little bearing on your application. Smart is smart. I can't speak to other grad programs. College is more about discovering yourself as a person. It's the only four years of your life where you can literally do anything and justify it as an academic learning experience. Make sure the school you pick is one you can be happy at. -- BU is a nice place. Pleasant part of the city, easy access to every other part of the city, lovely ivy covered buildings. Plenty of extracurricular things available. The major cons with BU are that (1) you aren't BC, and (2) that you are in the middle of a city, which isn't for everyone. I recommend visiting.
Wow, thanks for that.
That really helps alot because my main disappointment in not being able to get into an ivy was that it would affect my chances in the future (as in, even if I work really hard, getting an amazing gpa and lsat, I still wouldn't be competitive). I would just expect that a place like Harvard Law would be accepting 95% of its students from the ivy league.
Also, is BU that inferior to BC?
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As the mod note states don't wallow in misery lol Even Warren Buffet was denied from harvard =p
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On March 31 2013 04:17 tozi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2013 03:39 remedium wrote:On March 31 2013 03:24 babylon wrote:On March 31 2013 02:52 tozi wrote:
For me, I think I'm going to either William and Mary or Boston university.
I'm planning on working hard in college and eventually try to get into a top law school/grad school.
Do you guys have any opinions on which one would be better for me in that regard?
My impressions. Correct me if I'm wrong
William and Mary: Smaller, better professors, research (?), closer smaller knit community
Boston University: Bigger, maybe more money, in an amazing college town, more stuff going on.
How about academic prestige? Which one would be better in eventual grad school admission? Dunno either of those that well, but for grad school, the prestige of your undergrad school does not matter a whit, and both schools are prestigious enough. What matters are your LORs (cozy up to profs, bonus points if they know profs at the schools you are applying to) and research experience. For law school, go to the place where you can get the highest grades. There should be a featured thread on TL about grad school admissions to ease the worries of fine folks like tozi (for all types of programs, since they vary in what they look for). I agree with babylon - to a point - about "[going] to the place where you can get the highest grades." If you're smart and driven, you can get good grades. It's not that hard. Pick a school that you like and a major that you like. If you can wrangle a 3.5 GPA in history (and let's be honest - who can't) and a 90th percentile LSAT, you have a fighting chance at most law schools. The name of your undergrad has very little bearing on your application. Smart is smart. I can't speak to other grad programs. College is more about discovering yourself as a person. It's the only four years of your life where you can literally do anything and justify it as an academic learning experience. Make sure the school you pick is one you can be happy at. -- BU is a nice place. Pleasant part of the city, easy access to every other part of the city, lovely ivy covered buildings. Plenty of extracurricular things available. The major cons with BU are that (1) you aren't BC, and (2) that you are in the middle of a city, which isn't for everyone. I recommend visiting. Wow, thanks for that. That really helps alot because my main disappointment in not being able to get into an ivy was that it would affect my chances in the future (as in, even if I work really hard, getting an amazing gpa and lsat, I still wouldn't be competitive). I would just expect that a place like Harvard Law would be accepting 95% of its students from the ivy league. Also, is BU that inferior to BC?
They're not so different that you should go to BC even if the superior program and feel of the campus life is in BU. They're both Top 100 colleges in the United States, with BC generally ranking in the Top 50.
Here's an in-depth comparison of them: http://bestcolleges.collegenews.com/compare/1893-1895/Boston-College-BC-vs-Boston-University-BU
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On March 31 2013 03:24 babylon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2013 02:52 tozi wrote:
For me, I think I'm going to either William and Mary or Boston university.
I'm planning on working hard in college and eventually try to get into a top law school/grad school.
Do you guys have any opinions on which one would be better for me in that regard?
My impressions. Correct me if I'm wrong
William and Mary: Smaller, better professors, research (?), closer smaller knit community
Boston University: Bigger, maybe more money, in an amazing college town, more stuff going on.
How about academic prestige? Which one would be better in eventual grad school admission? Dunno either of those that well, but for grad school, the prestige of your undergrad school does not matter a whit, .
Not sure why people keep saying this, in my experience it is not true at all.
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I am a freshman at BU if anyone wants me to answer some questions about it I can try to help.
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Reading this thread (and having read the ones from earlier years) I can't help but always become surprised/thoughtful about the state of the education in my country. Sweden is always touted as having a great education system (partially because it's (almost always) 100% free), but I practically slept my way through 12 years of public education (there are only a handful of private schools in sweden, and they're not considered "better", just stricter/more exclusive) and I can get into any university/program I want in the entire country based solely on test scores. Compare that to the discipline that you guys seem to have, along with the huge emphasis on extracurricular activities (of which basically 0 exist here, besides student council, and it still does nothing to help you get into university), winning awards (science competitions etc. are extremely rare and do nothing for your application), as well as essays (don't exist) and interviews (don't exist), it just feels like a completely different world compared to our university system.
Which feels pretty nuts considering I could apply for (and probably be accepted to) a student exchange for any of the Ivy league schools that the university I study at have a relationship with (which I believe is all of them).
tl;dr I feel my country's lack of emphasis on university education/application screening puts us leagues below the US (and presumably other countries that do the same).
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On March 31 2013 04:47 KlaCkoN wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2013 03:24 babylon wrote:On March 31 2013 02:52 tozi wrote:
For me, I think I'm going to either William and Mary or Boston university.
I'm planning on working hard in college and eventually try to get into a top law school/grad school.
Do you guys have any opinions on which one would be better for me in that regard?
My impressions. Correct me if I'm wrong
William and Mary: Smaller, better professors, research (?), closer smaller knit community
Boston University: Bigger, maybe more money, in an amazing college town, more stuff going on.
How about academic prestige? Which one would be better in eventual grad school admission? Dunno either of those that well, but for grad school, the prestige of your undergrad school does not matter a whit, . Not sure why people keep saying this, in my experience it is not true at all.
I think it depends. I know that within Canada, your undergrad doesn't matter too much as long as you don't come from the bottom universities. Within Ontario, there is University of Toronto, MacMaster, Western, Queens, York, Waterloo, Ottawa, and Guelph. This list pretty included the majority of universities in Ontario. From a Canadian gradschool committee point of view, the undergrad education from these universities are more or less equivalent. The situation would be different for international students. I imagine there would be more scrutiny on where your undergrad's is if you wanted to go to England for your graduate's studies. I find the most important thing for Gradschool application is to know your PI before working there. That makes your life alot easier for gradschool education.
EDIT this is for biology and chemistry streams. Dunno about other fields lol.
Forgot Western. Hue. Although realistically speaking, york and guelph are a tier below since they are not in the U15.
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On March 31 2013 02:22 tr569 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2013 01:51 wei2coolman wrote:On March 31 2013 01:23 Recognizable wrote:On March 31 2013 01:04 julianto wrote:On March 30 2013 23:36 wei2coolman wrote:On March 30 2013 16:23 Disregard wrote:
SATs and GPAs don't matter as much for Ivys anymore, they're looking for talent and creativity or if you're good at sports. The admission rates for them are so inflated due to every other student trying to get in. SAT + GPAs are just a "filter" for Ivy Leagues now. That means they'll auto filter out anyone who's GPA and SAT aren't high enough; then they go through the rest of admissions. http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2012/12/19/fears-of-an-asian-quota-in-the-ivy-league/statistics-indicate-an-ivy-league-asian-quotaInteresting article; I think it's sort of a known secret that Ivy leagues have been starting to limit the percentage of AA in their schools; otherwise they'd end up like UC system where it's like 40% asian americans. Pour more money into the universities with no affirmative action so that they become better than the Ivies. I don't think that'll help much. One of the reasons Ivy's are the best is because everyone thinks they are the best and thus attract the most talent/funding and best professors. UC's are proof otherwise. Best public school system, and offers comparable education, and more often than not rank in the same places as IVY leagues. UCSD/UCLA/UCB; all rank equally with Ivys, and are much cheaper. Ivy tuition cost is expensive as fuck, but that's more so because it's a private school system, not because they're "top tier". A lot of private universities cost as much as Ivy league schools, even if they aren't as well known. Even the lower UC System schools like UCD/UCI/UCSB/UCSC/UCR, rank very favorably over all in comparison to overall top universities in the US. According to recent rankings, UCD (not overall), has matched, and even in some cases, out ranked some Ivy leagues. Overall ranking for UCD is relatively good also, like 70th or something.
What
UC Berkeley and UCLA are good and maybe one or two others are top 30/40 (I don't remember) compared to the lowest-ranked Ivy (Cornell), which is like 15th. Tuition for UC's out-of-state is still like 50K, and compared to other places, getting financial aid is impossible out-of-state. The best thing I think the UC system is prevent a lot of good students from leaving the state.
EDIT: this is not to poop on the UC system-- I more than likely would have gone there (probably UCLA) if I had stayed in California.
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On March 31 2013 04:56 zz_ wrote:
Reading this thread (and having read the ones from earlier years) I can't help but always become surprised/thoughtful about the state of the education in my country. Sweden is always touted as having a great education system (partially because it's (almost always) 100% free), but I practically slept my way through 12 years of public education (there are only a handful of private schools in sweden, and they're not considered "better", just stricter/more exclusive) and I can get into any university/program I want in the entire country based solely on test scores. Compare that to the discipline that you guys seem to have, along with the huge emphasis on extracurricular activities (of which basically 0 exist here, besides student council, and it still does nothing to help you get into university), winning awards (science competitions etc. are extremely rare and do nothing for your application), as well as essays (don't exist) and interviews (don't exist), it just feels like a completely different world compared to our university system.
Which feels pretty nuts considering I could apply for (and probably be accepted to) a student exchange for any of the Ivy league schools that the university I study at have a relationship with (which I believe is all of them).
tl;dr I feel my country's lack of emphasis on university education/application screening puts us leagues below the US (and presumably other countries that do the same).
well the U.S. is probably the only country in the world that puts this much emphasis into university applications. most other countries is just testing.Or you're practically led into a university. i don't know that the rigor of the process necessarily produces better individuals though.
from a canadian perspective ,where university applications is more of a dummy check, seeing all of these qualified individuals in this thread basically get rejected by 70% of the universities is disheartening.
in canada you get evaluated only in your grade 12 year. if you get a 90% in your first 4-5 months of grade 12 then you can get into pretty much any university. it's pretty ridiculous. for example the dude at the top of the page with a 3.71 UW GPA and numerous extracurricular accolades probably could have gotten into any university in canada. (bc perspective, i don't know about ontario schools but i'd assume it's similar)
funny thing is, however, that i have a friend who got 1900 on his SAT's get into cornell. hmmmm
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On March 31 2013 05:29 shawster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2013 04:56 zz_ wrote:
Reading this thread (and having read the ones from earlier years) I can't help but always become surprised/thoughtful about the state of the education in my country. Sweden is always touted as having a great education system (partially because it's (almost always) 100% free), but I practically slept my way through 12 years of public education (there are only a handful of private schools in sweden, and they're not considered "better", just stricter/more exclusive) and I can get into any university/program I want in the entire country based solely on test scores. Compare that to the discipline that you guys seem to have, along with the huge emphasis on extracurricular activities (of which basically 0 exist here, besides student council, and it still does nothing to help you get into university), winning awards (science competitions etc. are extremely rare and do nothing for your application), as well as essays (don't exist) and interviews (don't exist), it just feels like a completely different world compared to our university system.
Which feels pretty nuts considering I could apply for (and probably be accepted to) a student exchange for any of the Ivy league schools that the university I study at have a relationship with (which I believe is all of them).
tl;dr I feel my country's lack of emphasis on university education/application screening puts us leagues below the US (and presumably other countries that do the same). well the U.S. is probably the only country in the world that puts this much emphasis into university applications. most other countries is just testing.Or you're practically led into a university. i don't know that the rigor of the process necessarily produces better individuals though. from a canadian perspective ,where university applications is more of a dummy check, seeing all of these qualified individuals in this thread basically get rejected by 70% of the universities is disheartening. in canada you get evaluated only in your grade 12 year. if you get a 90% in your first 4-5 months of grade 12 then you can get into pretty much any university. it's pretty ridiculous. for example the dude at the top of the page with a 3.71 UW GPA and numerous extracurricular accolades probably could have gotten into any university in canada. (bc perspective, i don't know about ontario schools but i'd assume it's similar) funny thing is, however, that i have a friend who got 1900 on his SAT's get into cornell. hmmmm
Thanks man, it's just so hard to get "in" to the Ivies if you aren't legacy or done something dramatically revolutionary. Hey, there's always transferring/grad school!
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On March 31 2013 04:56 zz_ wrote:
Reading this thread (and having read the ones from earlier years) I can't help but always become surprised/thoughtful about the state of the education in my country. Sweden is always touted as having a great education system (partially because it's (almost always) 100% free), but I practically slept my way through 12 years of public education (there are only a handful of private schools in sweden, and they're not considered "better", just stricter/more exclusive) and I can get into any university/program I want in the entire country based solely on test scores. Compare that to the discipline that you guys seem to have, along with the huge emphasis on extracurricular activities (of which basically 0 exist here, besides student council, and it still does nothing to help you get into university), winning awards (science competitions etc. are extremely rare and do nothing for your application), as well as essays (don't exist) and interviews (don't exist), it just feels like a completely different world compared to our university system.
Which feels pretty nuts considering I could apply for (and probably be accepted to) a student exchange for any of the Ivy league schools that the university I study at have a relationship with (which I believe is all of them).
tl;dr I feel my country's lack of emphasis on university education/application screening puts us leagues below the US (and presumably other countries that do the same).
I feel like there are two sides to this. I'm not sure if you mean we are leagues below the unis themselves, or just the application process, but if its the first then I would say no, maybe even the other way (from my limited experience). After high school I went to the US and studied at Northeastern University, applied and everything so not through an exchange program or anything like that. And what I found was that the system there more feels like high school, and a LOT easier than in Sweden; I studied for like a day before exams and still managed to get 90%+ and made the Deans list etc. I'm currently studying at Uppsala University and it requires a lot more studying - 50% or more usually fails exams at our program. Now granted, NEU isn't a top Uni, but it is (or at least was) pretty good.
For the application process, it both sucks and is awesome. You get a chance to show more of yourself through your extracurricular, essays etc, but it also allows some people to get accepted due to their parents having studied there or being prominent in whatever field. But it also (from what I've heard) "discriminates" majority groups, as in you have a relatively higher chance of getting accepted if you have african heritage. Here in Sweden it sucks for majors like psychology and medicine where you pretty much get accepted through a lotto system if you apply with your high school grades, and you have no way of distinguishing yourself (I studied IB in Japan, but fuck me only 2 persons get accepted from that "application pool" a semester, so this was very much the case for me). On the other hand you don't have people who rides their parents name and so on.
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On March 31 2013 04:47 KlaCkoN wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2013 03:24 babylon wrote:On March 31 2013 02:52 tozi wrote:
For me, I think I'm going to either William and Mary or Boston university.
I'm planning on working hard in college and eventually try to get into a top law school/grad school.
Do you guys have any opinions on which one would be better for me in that regard?
My impressions. Correct me if I'm wrong
William and Mary: Smaller, better professors, research (?), closer smaller knit community
Boston University: Bigger, maybe more money, in an amazing college town, more stuff going on.
How about academic prestige? Which one would be better in eventual grad school admission? Dunno either of those that well, but for grad school, the prestige of your undergrad school does not matter a whit, . Not sure why people keep saying this, in my experience it is not true at all.
There's a correlation between students from prestigious schools getting into top grad programs, but that's because good faculty gravitate towards prestigious schools, making it easier for students at those schools to create better applications. It's not the prestige by itself giving these students a leg up, imo, but there's definitely a feedback loop.
Put it this way: It's who you know and what you did in undergrad that will make a difference in grad school admissions. "Who you know" and "what you did" are easier to check off at prestigious institutions than at less prestigious ones, but it's not difficult to overcome these two if you network well (schmooze with your profs!) and actually make use of your summers.
Obviously you do not want to go to a school that is atrocious, but you can go to a completely mediocre school and get into top grad programs if you are a good, motivated student.
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On March 31 2013 05:42 Gyaru wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2013 04:56 zz_ wrote:
Reading this thread (and having read the ones from earlier years) I can't help but always become surprised/thoughtful about the state of the education in my country. Sweden is always touted as having a great education system (partially because it's (almost always) 100% free), but I practically slept my way through 12 years of public education (there are only a handful of private schools in sweden, and they're not considered "better", just stricter/more exclusive) and I can get into any university/program I want in the entire country based solely on test scores. Compare that to the discipline that you guys seem to have, along with the huge emphasis on extracurricular activities (of which basically 0 exist here, besides student council, and it still does nothing to help you get into university), winning awards (science competitions etc. are extremely rare and do nothing for your application), as well as essays (don't exist) and interviews (don't exist), it just feels like a completely different world compared to our university system.
Which feels pretty nuts considering I could apply for (and probably be accepted to) a student exchange for any of the Ivy league schools that the university I study at have a relationship with (which I believe is all of them).
tl;dr I feel my country's lack of emphasis on university education/application screening puts us leagues below the US (and presumably other countries that do the same). I feel like there are two sides to this. I'm not sure if you mean we are leagues below the unis themselves, or just the application process, but if its the first then I would say no, maybe even the other way (from my limited experience). After high school I went to the US and studied at Northeastern University, applied and everything so not through an exchange program or anything like that. And what I found was that the system there more feels like high school, and a LOT easier than in Sweden; I studied for like a day before exams and still managed to get 90%+ and made the Deans list etc. I'm currently studying at Uppsala University and it requires a lot more studying - 50% or more usually fails exams at our program. Now granted, NEU isn't a top Uni, but it is (or at least was) pretty good. For the application process, it both sucks and is awesome. You get a chance to show more of yourself through your extracurricular, essays etc, but it also allows some people to get accepted due to their parents having studied there or being prominent in whatever field. But it also (from what I've heard) "discriminates" majority groups, as in you have a relatively higher chance of getting accepted if you have african heritage. Here in Sweden it sucks for majors like psychology and medicine where you pretty much get accepted through a lotto system if you apply with your high school grades, and you have no way of distinguishing yourself (I studied IB in Japan, but fuck me only 2 persons get accepted from that "application pool" a semester, so this was very much the case for me). On the other hand you don't have people who rides their parents name and so on.
a lotto system? really?
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On March 31 2013 05:46 shawster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2013 05:42 Gyaru wrote:On March 31 2013 04:56 zz_ wrote:
Reading this thread (and having read the ones from earlier years) I can't help but always become surprised/thoughtful about the state of the education in my country. Sweden is always touted as having a great education system (partially because it's (almost always) 100% free), but I practically slept my way through 12 years of public education (there are only a handful of private schools in sweden, and they're not considered "better", just stricter/more exclusive) and I can get into any university/program I want in the entire country based solely on test scores. Compare that to the discipline that you guys seem to have, along with the huge emphasis on extracurricular activities (of which basically 0 exist here, besides student council, and it still does nothing to help you get into university), winning awards (science competitions etc. are extremely rare and do nothing for your application), as well as essays (don't exist) and interviews (don't exist), it just feels like a completely different world compared to our university system.
Which feels pretty nuts considering I could apply for (and probably be accepted to) a student exchange for any of the Ivy league schools that the university I study at have a relationship with (which I believe is all of them).
tl;dr I feel my country's lack of emphasis on university education/application screening puts us leagues below the US (and presumably other countries that do the same). I feel like there are two sides to this. I'm not sure if you mean we are leagues below the unis themselves, or just the application process, but if its the first then I would say no, maybe even the other way (from my limited experience). After high school I went to the US and studied at Northeastern University, applied and everything so not through an exchange program or anything like that. And what I found was that the system there more feels like high school, and a LOT easier than in Sweden; I studied for like a day before exams and still managed to get 90%+ and made the Deans list etc. I'm currently studying at Uppsala University and it requires a lot more studying - 50% or more usually fails exams at our program. Now granted, NEU isn't a top Uni, but it is (or at least was) pretty good. For the application process, it both sucks and is awesome. You get a chance to show more of yourself through your extracurricular, essays etc, but it also allows some people to get accepted due to their parents having studied there or being prominent in whatever field. But it also (from what I've heard) "discriminates" majority groups, as in you have a relatively higher chance of getting accepted if you have african heritage. Here in Sweden it sucks for majors like psychology and medicine where you pretty much get accepted through a lotto system if you apply with your high school grades, and you have no way of distinguishing yourself (I studied IB in Japan, but fuck me only 2 persons get accepted from that "application pool" a semester, so this was very much the case for me). On the other hand you don't have people who rides their parents name and so on. a lotto system? really?
only 100 or whatever spots, and 1000ish applicants. And because it's Sweden and everybody has to be treated equally and with no preference - lotto (among those who graduated with the Swedish equivalent of 4.0 UW GPA)
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@Aerisky:
Hey. Getting a job out of UC Berkeley Engineering is like the easiest thing ever. On top of that, our engineering is actually way better than the ivies, and on par with MIT & Stanford. Don't feel disappointed about yourself for going to the school with the best CSL program in the world.
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On March 31 2013 05:56 Abstinence wrote:
@Aerisky:
Hey. Getting a job out of UC Berkeley Engineering is like the easiest thing ever. On top of that, our engineering is actually way better than the ivies, and on par with MIT & Stanford. Don't feel disappointed about yourself for going to the school with the best CSL program in the world.
^this guys got his priorities straight.
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On March 30 2013 16:25 Aerisky wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Thanks for the kind words everyone. I really appreciate it <3 Yeah, I'm probably going to Cal. Cried about it, beat myself up about it (not literally), played a ton of bioshock to drown my sorrows, and I think I've gotten over it by now. I've been getting really bad headaches lately+fps games sometimes give me motion sickness so I can't really think at all anyway lol, it's time for bed. >iaeuy you are basically me haha, all the way down to the living in SF bay area, feeling like I'm "bad at life", feeling like I haven't done much, like I haven't applied myself, and like I'll never be any good. Seriously lol Well we should meet up and be depressed together, we might even recognize each other's high schools ^^ >julianto I'm a pretty pessimistic person and try to be humble to the point of a permanently self-deprecatory mindset so I'm not going to say they were awesome, but did I put a lot effort into them and actually didn't write about boring, generic stuff (or so I like to think). Asked around for editing/proofreading/comments too :/ Also felt like I had some pretty good interests and activities going for me into which I invested a lot of myself, but I suppose it wasn't convincing enough ;n;
Holy fuck dude, you got into Berkeley? Berkeley. That school is literally top 15 in math, cs and a ton of sciences; basically everything anyone on this forum does. It's an incredibly god damn good school and you're right next to everything that's happening in tech. You'll have every single advantage and opportunity anyone at an ivy would have had with an incredible peer group. Yeah I get that you're bummed going to school right next to home. You have very good stats and I'm surprised no one else took you but its not like your gonna blow away the people at UCB. You should thank your lucky stars you live in CA and can afford to go to such an incredible school. You're going to the best public university in the country
+ Show Spoiler [My Own Personal Rant] +
My brother has literally your exact same stats. Perfect SAT's and SAT II's and a dozen 5's, 5/365 and he's had severe crones for four years that we've just found sufficient treatment for. He got waitlisted at Upenn, Duke and Cornell and we live in fucking NJ so the only choice is to take his fullride to Rutgers (he also got into some privates but there's no way we can pay for that and ED was out the question because we need to see aid before we can commit. Fucking ED), What the fuck am I supposed to tell him? That Rutgers is a great school and that he won't be significantly better student that 95% of the student body? Fuck, I hated my first year here until I found a group of people I liked and that was only because I was lucky enough to be interested in math. And he's a much better student than I was so it'll be even worse. God damn, you know what I would give to have my states flagship be fucking Berkeley. My parents want me to somehow comfort him but what am I supposed to say? 75% of our student body are simply terrible students and that intro level courses feel like A-level highschool classes? That half the people don't give one fuck and its incredibly discouraging? That its gonna be a year or two until he's in high enough level courses that it doesn't feel like he's surrounded by idiots? And he can't even drink because of his crones, so being a party school is gonna be awesome for him. He's fucking fucked and I have no idea what to tell him. And you have to go to just Berkeley...
And before DPB swoops in, I like Rutgers. I think in many ways it's an exceptional school and certainly worth every dollar I pay to go here. Our professors are top notch, our math dept. is excellent and there are tons and tons of students that blow me away in every way academically. But it is isolating and I really truly didn't want my brother to have to go through the same adjustment that I did. At the end of the day its an above average public and not a top school and I know how much it hurts to put in four years of work and end up in the same place as the kids who didn't even try.
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Applied (all for engineering)
Dalhousie University
Memorial University of Newfoundland
École Polytechnique de Montréal
So I got accepted to Dal and Memorial, but still waiting to hear from polytechnique, which is where i want to go the most because montreal night life is gonna be sick and its such a beautiful city.
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On March 31 2013 05:42 babylon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2013 04:47 KlaCkoN wrote:On March 31 2013 03:24 babylon wrote:On March 31 2013 02:52 tozi wrote:
For me, I think I'm going to either William and Mary or Boston university.
I'm planning on working hard in college and eventually try to get into a top law school/grad school.
Do you guys have any opinions on which one would be better for me in that regard?
My impressions. Correct me if I'm wrong
William and Mary: Smaller, better professors, research (?), closer smaller knit community
Boston University: Bigger, maybe more money, in an amazing college town, more stuff going on.
How about academic prestige? Which one would be better in eventual grad school admission? Dunno either of those that well, but for grad school, the prestige of your undergrad school does not matter a whit, . Not sure why people keep saying this, in my experience it is not true at all. There's a correlation between students from prestigious schools getting into top grad programs, but that's because good faculty gravitate towards prestigious schools, making it easier for students at those schools to create better applications. It's not the prestige by itself giving these students a leg up, imo, but there's definitely a feedback loop. Put it this way: It's who you know and what you did in undergrad that will make a difference in grad school admissions. "Who you know" and "what you did" are easier to check off at prestigious institutions than at less prestigious ones, but it's not difficult to overcome these two if you network well (schmooze with your profs!) and actually make use of your summers. Obviously you do not want to go to a school that is atrocious, but you can go to a completely mediocre school and get into top grad programs if you are a good, motivated student.
You seem to agree with me? In general a more prestigious uni will have better undergrad research opportunities, more famous faculty etc -> better rec letters -> better looking application. In addition the reputation of the course work itself matters .. The exact same application to a top physics grad program is more likely to be successful if the institution box says cal tech rather than texas A&M.
But yes of course, a brilliant student will get admitted no matter where he went for undergrad.
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On March 30 2013 16:25 Aerisky wrote:Thanks for the kind words everyone. I really appreciate it <3 Yeah, I'm probably going to Cal. Cried about it, beat myself up about it (not literally), played a ton of bioshock to drown my sorrows, and I think I've gotten over it by now. I've been getting really bad headaches lately+fps games sometimes give me motion sickness so I can't really think at all anyway lol, it's time for bed. >iaeuy you are basically me haha, all the way down to the living in SF bay area, feeling like I'm "bad at life", feeling like I haven't done much, like I haven't applied myself, and like I'll never be any good. Seriously lol Well we should meet up and be depressed together, we might even recognize each other's high schools ^^ >julianto I'm a pretty pessimistic person and try to be humble to the point of a permanently self-deprecatory mindset so I'm not going to say they were awesome, but did I put a lot effort into them and actually didn't write about boring, generic stuff (or so I like to think). Asked around for editing/proofreading/comments too :/ Also felt like I had some pretty good interests and activities going for me into which I invested a lot of myself, but I suppose it wasn't convincing enough ;n;
Man, I don't know who on Earth would cry about having to go to UCB. Like really, I'm going to an incredibly selective and excellent school, woe is me
On March 30 2013 15:10 Ship wrote:
Applied and accepted to GMU, hope to meet some SC2 Masons there!
Korok who plays on Liquid's Dota team goes to GMU
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On March 31 2013 06:47 KlaCkoN wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2013 05:42 babylon wrote:On March 31 2013 04:47 KlaCkoN wrote:On March 31 2013 03:24 babylon wrote:On March 31 2013 02:52 tozi wrote:
For me, I think I'm going to either William and Mary or Boston university.
I'm planning on working hard in college and eventually try to get into a top law school/grad school.
Do you guys have any opinions on which one would be better for me in that regard?
My impressions. Correct me if I'm wrong
William and Mary: Smaller, better professors, research (?), closer smaller knit community
Boston University: Bigger, maybe more money, in an amazing college town, more stuff going on.
How about academic prestige? Which one would be better in eventual grad school admission? Dunno either of those that well, but for grad school, the prestige of your undergrad school does not matter a whit, . Not sure why people keep saying this, in my experience it is not true at all. There's a correlation between students from prestigious schools getting into top grad programs, but that's because good faculty gravitate towards prestigious schools, making it easier for students at those schools to create better applications. It's not the prestige by itself giving these students a leg up, imo, but there's definitely a feedback loop. Put it this way: It's who you know and what you did in undergrad that will make a difference in grad school admissions. "Who you know" and "what you did" are easier to check off at prestigious institutions than at less prestigious ones, but it's not difficult to overcome these two if you network well (schmooze with your profs!) and actually make use of your summers. Obviously you do not want to go to a school that is atrocious, but you can go to a completely mediocre school and get into top grad programs if you are a good, motivated student. You seem to agree with me? In general a more prestigious uni will have better undergrad research opportunities, more famous faculty etc -> better rec letters -> better looking application. In addition the reputation of the course work itself matters .. The exact same application to a top physics grad program is more likely to be successful if the institution box says cal tech rather than texas A&M. But yes of course, a brilliant student will get admitted no matter where he went for undergrad.
Yes, basically. But didn't want people to get the idea that prestige >>> all in terms of getting into grad school. It's really about being perceptive enough about gaps in your program/package and then seeking to plug up those gaps. That can be done at most schools, except those that are so bad they're like a sinking boat, lol.
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On March 31 2013 06:47 KlaCkoN wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2013 05:42 babylon wrote:On March 31 2013 04:47 KlaCkoN wrote:On March 31 2013 03:24 babylon wrote:On March 31 2013 02:52 tozi wrote:
For me, I think I'm going to either William and Mary or Boston university.
I'm planning on working hard in college and eventually try to get into a top law school/grad school.
Do you guys have any opinions on which one would be better for me in that regard?
My impressions. Correct me if I'm wrong
William and Mary: Smaller, better professors, research (?), closer smaller knit community
Boston University: Bigger, maybe more money, in an amazing college town, more stuff going on.
How about academic prestige? Which one would be better in eventual grad school admission? Dunno either of those that well, but for grad school, the prestige of your undergrad school does not matter a whit, . Not sure why people keep saying this, in my experience it is not true at all. There's a correlation between students from prestigious schools getting into top grad programs, but that's because good faculty gravitate towards prestigious schools, making it easier for students at those schools to create better applications. It's not the prestige by itself giving these students a leg up, imo, but there's definitely a feedback loop. Put it this way: It's who you know and what you did in undergrad that will make a difference in grad school admissions. "Who you know" and "what you did" are easier to check off at prestigious institutions than at less prestigious ones, but it's not difficult to overcome these two if you network well (schmooze with your profs!) and actually make use of your summers. Obviously you do not want to go to a school that is atrocious, but you can go to a completely mediocre school and get into top grad programs if you are a good, motivated student. You seem to agree with me? In general a more prestigious uni will have better undergrad research opportunities, more famous faculty etc -> better rec letters -> better looking application. In addition the reputation of the course work itself matters .. The exact same application to a top physics grad program is more likely to be successful if the institution box says cal tech rather than texas A&M. But yes of course, a brilliant student will get admitted no matter where he went for undergrad.
As long as your school is well known for their "thing"; they'll have famous faculty member.
Apply to undergrad that is good for your major.
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On March 31 2013 04:17 tozi wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On March 31 2013 03:39 remedium wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2013 03:24 babylon wrote:On March 31 2013 02:52 tozi wrote:
For me, I think I'm going to either William and Mary or Boston university.
I'm planning on working hard in college and eventually try to get into a top law school/grad school.
Do you guys have any opinions on which one would be better for me in that regard?
My impressions. Correct me if I'm wrong
William and Mary: Smaller, better professors, research (?), closer smaller knit community
Boston University: Bigger, maybe more money, in an amazing college town, more stuff going on.
How about academic prestige? Which one would be better in eventual grad school admission? Dunno either of those that well, but for grad school, the prestige of your undergrad school does not matter a whit, and both schools are prestigious enough. What matters are your LORs (cozy up to profs, bonus points if they know profs at the schools you are applying to) and research experience. For law school, go to the place where you can get the highest grades. There should be a featured thread on TL about grad school admissions to ease the worries of fine folks like tozi (for all types of programs, since they vary in what they look for). I agree with babylon - to a point - about "[going] to the place where you can get the highest grades." If you're smart and driven, you can get good grades. It's not that hard. Pick a school that you like and a major that you like. If you can wrangle a 3.5 GPA in history (and let's be honest - who can't) and a 90th percentile LSAT, you have a fighting chance at most law schools. The name of your undergrad has very little bearing on your application. Smart is smart. I can't speak to other grad programs. College is more about discovering yourself as a person. It's the only four years of your life where you can literally do anything and justify it as an academic learning experience. Make sure the school you pick is one you can be happy at. -- BU is a nice place. Pleasant part of the city, easy access to every other part of the city, lovely ivy covered buildings. Plenty of extracurricular things available. The major cons with BU are that (1) you aren't BC, and (2) that you are in the middle of a city, which isn't for everyone. I recommend visiting. Wow, thanks for that. That really helps alot because my main disappointment in not being able to get into an ivy was that it would affect my chances in the future (as in, even if I work really hard, getting an amazing gpa and lsat, I still wouldn't be competitive). I would just expect that a place like Harvard Law would be accepting 95% of its students from the ivy league. Also, is BU that inferior to BC?
Haha, no - BC and BU are extremely similar, it's just fun to make fun of BU.
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I think y'all are greatly overestimating the effects of being a legacy. Both of my parents have master's degrees from Harvard, and I didn't even get waitlisted.
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my friend got 2400 for his SAT I and for his SAT II he got 800 for maths II, 760 for literature and 800 for physics. He applied for engineering and got rejected from every single ivy league uni he applied to, he was finally accepted to stanford and accepted.
he suspects he got rejected cause his extra-curriculars were below average. also, he's australian and applied as an international student -- not sure if that hurt his chances.
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On March 31 2013 07:07 tutsicockroach wrote:
my friend got 2400 for his SAT I and for his SAT II he got 800 for maths II, 760 for literature and 800 for physics. He applied for engineering and got rejected from every single ivy league uni he applied to, he was finally accepted to stanford and accepted.
he suspects he got rejected cause his extra-curriculars were below average. also, he's australian and applied as an international student -- not sure if that hurt his chances.
Dude, Stanford is just as good if not better lol. When I visited Stanford, it felt SO much more "happy" than any Ivy league school I saw.
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On March 31 2013 06:27 n.DieJokes wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2013 16:25 Aerisky wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Thanks for the kind words everyone. I really appreciate it <3 Yeah, I'm probably going to Cal. Cried about it, beat myself up about it (not literally), played a ton of bioshock to drown my sorrows, and I think I've gotten over it by now. I've been getting really bad headaches lately+fps games sometimes give me motion sickness so I can't really think at all anyway lol, it's time for bed. >iaeuy you are basically me haha, all the way down to the living in SF bay area, feeling like I'm "bad at life", feeling like I haven't done much, like I haven't applied myself, and like I'll never be any good. Seriously lol Well we should meet up and be depressed together, we might even recognize each other's high schools ^^ >julianto I'm a pretty pessimistic person and try to be humble to the point of a permanently self-deprecatory mindset so I'm not going to say they were awesome, but did I put a lot effort into them and actually didn't write about boring, generic stuff (or so I like to think). Asked around for editing/proofreading/comments too :/ Also felt like I had some pretty good interests and activities going for me into which I invested a lot of myself, but I suppose it wasn't convincing enough ;n; Holy fuck dude, you got into Berkeley? Berkeley. That school is literally top 15 in math, cs and a ton of sciences; basically everything anyone on this forum does. It's an incredibly god damn good school and you're right next to everything that's happening in tech. You'll have every single advantage and opportunity anyone at an ivy would have had with an incredible peer group. Yeah I get that you're bummed going to school right next to home. You have very good stats and I'm surprised no one else took you but its not like your gonna blow away the people at UCB. You should thank your lucky stars you live in CA and can afford to go to such an incredible school. You're going to the best public university in the country + Show Spoiler [My Own Personal Rant] +
My brother has literally your exact same stats. Perfect SAT's and SAT II's and a dozen 5's, 5/365 and he's had severe crones for four years that we've just found sufficient treatment for. He got waitlisted at Upenn, Duke and Cornell and we live in fucking NJ so the only choice is to take his fullride to Rutgers (he also got into some privates but there's no way we can pay for that and ED was out the question because we need to see aid before we can commit. Fucking ED), What the fuck am I supposed to tell him? That Rutgers is a great school and that he won't be significantly better student that 95% of the student body? Fuck, I hated my first year here until I found a group of people I liked and that was only because I was lucky enough to be interested in math. And he's a much better student than I was so it'll be even worse. God damn, you know what I would give to have my states flagship be fucking Berkeley. My parents want me to somehow comfort him but what am I supposed to say? 75% of our student body are simply terrible students and that intro level courses feel like A-level highschool classes? That half the people don't give one fuck and its incredibly discouraging? That its gonna be a year or two until he's in high enough level courses that it doesn't feel like he's surrounded by idiots? And he can't even drink because of his crones, so being a party school is gonna be awesome for him. He's fucking fucked and I have no idea what to tell him. And you have to go to just Berkeley...
And before DPB swoops in, I like Rutgers. I think in many ways it's an exceptional school and certainly worth every dollar I pay to go here. Our professors are top notch, our math dept. is excellent and there are tons and tons of students that blow me away in every way academically. But it is isolating and I really truly didn't want my brother to have to go through the same adjustment that I did. At the end of the day its an above average public and not a top school and I know how much it hurts to put in four years of work and end up in the same place as the kids who didn't even try.
::swoop:: haha
I totally sympathize with your brother's position; no one likes to feel like they're "settling" or going off to a college that they know ahead of time they're not completely in sync with. I won't pretend like Rutgers is the perfect college for everyone (no college can have that reputation).
I will say that if he's thinking about taking a STEM-related major, he'll surely have his hands relatively full (especially with the upper classes), so only the general education requirements will be a joke I hope that he can find his niche and circle of friends, but there are so many different clubs and things he can join that I don't think it's really that hard (if he takes initiative). College will always be what you make of it. I've been a commuter at Rutgers for all my years here (which makes it far harder to integrate myself into the social life because I have no roommates or dormmates and I usually need to go home at the end of the day unless I'm crashing at a friend's place on campus), and I really had no problem acclimating to university life.
My youngest brother is starting Rutgers in the fall as well
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Bio:
Perfect test scores across the board(SAT, 8 APs, 4 SAT2) except 790 SAT2 US
Terrible essay-writing
Research experience in two national labs
Asian in SF Bay Area
Lotsa math/physics competition accolades
Swimming 3 years
Lotsa volunteer tutoring work through several organizations
Results
MIT/Caltech (EA) - Defer/Defer -> Reject/Reject
USC - Full scholarship
CMU, Duke - Accept
Top 6 UCs - Accept + Regents (except UCLA, screw you too)
Case Western - ~$30,000/year scholarship
Going to USC
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CA10828 Posts
welcome to the trojan family. fight on!
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does anyone know about the crowding problems at berkeley?
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So I accidentally clicked on this thread and now feel like posting about my stuff.
Bio: GPA 4.3 Junior 4.1 Senior, weighted for APs I think. 2050 on SAT mostly b/c I was lazy and didn't try to remember math I literally learned 6 or 7 years ago (took algebra in elementary school; inevitably overthink most questions after taking BC Calc Junior year). I've actually had a lot of health issues and only attend school for certain classes, thus I have basically no extracurricular activities.
Live in Virginia and am only looking at in-state schools due to health concerns.
Accepted:
William and Mary
James Madison
Virginia Tech
George Mason
Christopher Newport (Am also offered Canon scholarship here which only 25 people get every year)
Waitlisted:
Virginia
I definitely wanna go to a liberal arts school and in terms of Academics William and Mary is the best, just really unsure about life in general and college due to my health condition. I don't wanna wear myself out and have to quit, but I also don't want to end up feeling underprepared for entering the real world.
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William and Mary is your best bet there for liberal arts, amazing its actually a public university rather than private.
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Accepted:
University of Vermont (11K a year)
Bryant University (18K a year)
Franklin and Marshall
Trinity College
CU Boulder
Oregon U
Rejected:
Bucknell
Colgate
Davidson
Boston College
UCSB
UCD
Waitlisted:
Santa Clara
I am choosing between Bryant, Franklin and Marshall, and Vermont. I am really interested in int'l business, which Bryant is great for. Vermont is a really nice place with cool people, and F&M has a hardworking student body. F&M is a liberal arts school with a business program, while Bryant is a Business school with some liberal arts curriculum. I love all three schools, and am having trouble choosing. Does anybody have experience with these schools?
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On March 31 2013 11:15 Superfluous wrote:
Live in Virginia and am only looking at in-state schools due to health concerns.
Accepted:
William and Mary
James Madison
Virginia Tech
George Mason
Christopher Newport (Am also offered Canon scholarship here which only 25 people get every year)
Waitlisted:
Virginia
I definitely wanna go to a liberal arts school and in terms of Academics William and Mary is the best, just really unsure about life in general and college due to my health condition. I don't wanna wear myself out and have to quit, but I also don't want to end up feeling underprepared for entering the real world.
I was in the same position you are last year (didn't apply to GMU or JMU though). Out of all the ones you listed, I'd definitely say go to William & Mary. The CNU scholarship sounds nice, but when it comes down to it, none of those schools rival W&M's overall academic prestige. If you're really worried about the academics overload though, CNU would be a pretty fitting backup.
Now, if you want to something more oriented towards math/science/engineering, definitely come to Tech. I'm doing CS here, and the professors are extremely friendly/helpful. The work is tough, but it's easily recognized by employers as a good-tier engineering school.
Unless your health conditions are really impeding, go for W&M. If I hadn't wanted to do something math-oriented, I definitely would've gone there.
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Hi all,
Accepted:
MIT
Stats:
SAT: 2400
SAT2: Math1,2,Physics: 800
AP scores (from previous years): Calc AB: 5, Physics B: 5, Gov, English Lit, US History II, Psychology: All 5
Currently taking Calc BC and Physics C, should probably get 5s in those.
GPA: 3.6 unweighted (not sure what weighted is -- must be higher since my rank is decent)
Rank: 13/700
I will be going to MIT.
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EDIT: NVM, fuck this. Just fuck this. I got fucked over by my school and now i'm getting the consequences of it all. Fuck everything.
EDIT2: How do I check my Columbia app? I want to see another rejection letter.
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On March 31 2013 12:06 Amino wrote:
Hi all,
Accepted:
MIT
Stats:
SAT: 2400
SAT2: Math1,2,Physics: 800
AP scores (from previous years): Calc AB: 5, Physics B: 5, Gov, English Lit, US History II, Psychology: All 5
Currently taking Calc BC and Physics C, should probably get 5s in those.
GPA: 3.6 unweighted (not sure what weighted is -- must be higher since my rank is decent)
Rank: 13/700
I will be going to MIT.
In before people start raging at you for getting into MIT Congrats!
What was the rest of your application and credentials like? A 3.6 is a pretty low GPA for such a prestigious school; you must have made up for it in other areas?
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On March 31 2013 12:06 Amino wrote:
I will be going to MIT.
visit Starleague (CSL) at CPW! and during the year!
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On March 31 2013 12:23 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2013 12:06 Amino wrote:
Hi all,
Accepted:
MIT
Stats:
SAT: 2400
SAT2: Math1,2,Physics: 800
AP scores (from previous years): Calc AB: 5, Physics B: 5, Gov, English Lit, US History II, Psychology: All 5
Currently taking Calc BC and Physics C, should probably get 5s in those.
GPA: 3.6 unweighted (not sure what weighted is -- must be higher since my rank is decent)
Rank: 13/700
I will be going to MIT. In before people start raging at you for getting into MIT Congrats! What was the rest of your application and credentials like? A 3.6 is a pretty low GPA for such a prestigious school; you must have made up for it in other areas?
His ability in math I presume
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On March 31 2013 15:14 Disregard wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2013 12:23 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On March 31 2013 12:06 Amino wrote:
Hi all,
Accepted:
MIT
Stats:
SAT: 2400
SAT2: Math1,2,Physics: 800
AP scores (from previous years): Calc AB: 5, Physics B: 5, Gov, English Lit, US History II, Psychology: All 5
Currently taking Calc BC and Physics C, should probably get 5s in those.
GPA: 3.6 unweighted (not sure what weighted is -- must be higher since my rank is decent)
Rank: 13/700
I will be going to MIT. In before people start raging at you for getting into MIT Congrats! What was the rest of your application and credentials like? A 3.6 is a pretty low GPA for such a prestigious school; you must have made up for it in other areas? His ability in math I presume
There has to be a high level of extracurricular somewhere in there; unless he applied for an English major in MIT.
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On March 31 2013 11:25 Afk wrote:
Accepted:
University of Vermont (11K a year)
Bryant University (18K a year)
Franklin and Marshall
Trinity College
CU Boulder
Oregon U
Rejected:
Bucknell
Colgate
Davidson
Boston College
UCSB
UCD
Waitlisted:
Santa Clara
I am choosing between Bryant, Franklin and Marshall, and Vermont. I am really interested in int'l business, which Bryant is great for. Vermont is a really nice place with cool people, and F&M has a hardworking student body. F&M is a liberal arts school with a business program, while Bryant is a Business school with some liberal arts curriculum. I love all three schools, and am having trouble choosing. Does anybody have experience with these schools?
F&M is a lot more rigorous than the other two schools you mentioned. I've actually visited F&M multiple times and it's one of the two schools I was accepted by. Will either be playing football at F&M or Dickinson in the Fall. I suggest you take a long hard look at what you'd get at V or B that you wouldn't at F&M.
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On March 31 2013 10:30 ticklishmusic wrote:
does anyone know about the crowding problems at berkeley?
what crowding problems
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On March 31 2013 01:42 tozi wrote:just saw this thread. admissions were so hard this year! I got mostly rejections wasn't left with many options but I would REALLY appreciate any information or advice you may have on these schools: Accepted: College of William and Mary Boston University Oberlin Rutgers Ursinus Waitlisted: NYU Stern George Washington
William and Mary and Oberlin are the 2 on the list I like the most. I'm going to Oberlin next year though, so you should join me.
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On March 31 2013 01:42 tozi wrote:just saw this thread. admissions were so hard this year! I got mostly rejections wasn't left with many options but I would REALLY appreciate any information or advice you may have on these schools: Accepted: College of William and Mary Boston University Oberlin Rutgers Ursinus Waitlisted: NYU Stern George Washington
PM me if you are doing engineering or science.
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On March 31 2013 07:07 tutsicockroach wrote:
my friend got 2400 for his SAT I and for his SAT II he got 800 for maths II, 760 for literature and 800 for physics. He applied for engineering and got rejected from every single ivy league uni he applied to, he was finally accepted to stanford and accepted.
he suspects he got rejected cause his extra-curriculars were below average. also, he's australian and applied as an international student -- not sure if that hurt his chances.
Probably to his suspicions, almost certainly yes to the international application.
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I'm planning on doing an economics and finance double major.
I considered Oberlin, but would really only do it for the conservatory, which I'm pretty sure I don't want. I visited and the environment isn't really for me. Kinda in the middle of nowhere and isolated. I don't doubt it's a very good school though.
I'm leaning toward William and Mary as of now. It seems to be the strongest academically out of the schools though I'd strongly consider NYC stern if I get in through the wait list
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On April 01 2013 02:07 Xxazn4lyfe51xX wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2013 07:07 tutsicockroach wrote:
my friend got 2400 for his SAT I and for his SAT II he got 800 for maths II, 760 for literature and 800 for physics. He applied for engineering and got rejected from every single ivy league uni he applied to, he was finally accepted to stanford and accepted.
he suspects he got rejected cause his extra-curriculars were below average. also, he's australian and applied as an international student -- not sure if that hurt his chances. Probably to his suspicions, almost certainly yes to the international application.
Is being an international student a disadvantage? I friend of mine who isn't particularly smart with very average SAT scores got into UCSB.
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On April 01 2013 02:15 Recognizable wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2013 02:07 Xxazn4lyfe51xX wrote:On March 31 2013 07:07 tutsicockroach wrote:
my friend got 2400 for his SAT I and for his SAT II he got 800 for maths II, 760 for literature and 800 for physics. He applied for engineering and got rejected from every single ivy league uni he applied to, he was finally accepted to stanford and accepted.
he suspects he got rejected cause his extra-curriculars were below average. also, he's australian and applied as an international student -- not sure if that hurt his chances. Probably to his suspicions, almost certainly yes to the international application. Is being an international student a disadvantage? I friend of mine who isn't particularly smart with very average SAT scores got into UCSB.
Santa Barbara isn't extraordinarily difficult to get into if you don't apply as computer science or engineering.
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On April 01 2013 02:15 Recognizable wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2013 02:07 Xxazn4lyfe51xX wrote:On March 31 2013 07:07 tutsicockroach wrote:
my friend got 2400 for his SAT I and for his SAT II he got 800 for maths II, 760 for literature and 800 for physics. He applied for engineering and got rejected from every single ivy league uni he applied to, he was finally accepted to stanford and accepted.
he suspects he got rejected cause his extra-curriculars were below average. also, he's australian and applied as an international student -- not sure if that hurt his chances. Probably to his suspicions, almost certainly yes to the international application. Is being an international student a disadvantage? I friend of mine who isn't particularly smart with very average SAT scores got into UCSB.
Very often yes, as you will be up against a hard-capped quota (and in some cases these days, fabricated transcripts and resumes from China...). Though some schools are easier than others in that regard.
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On April 01 2013 02:29 Xxazn4lyfe51xX wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2013 02:15 Recognizable wrote:On April 01 2013 02:07 Xxazn4lyfe51xX wrote:On March 31 2013 07:07 tutsicockroach wrote:
my friend got 2400 for his SAT I and for his SAT II he got 800 for maths II, 760 for literature and 800 for physics. He applied for engineering and got rejected from every single ivy league uni he applied to, he was finally accepted to stanford and accepted.
he suspects he got rejected cause his extra-curriculars were below average. also, he's australian and applied as an international student -- not sure if that hurt his chances. Probably to his suspicions, almost certainly yes to the international application. Is being an international student a disadvantage? I friend of mine who isn't particularly smart with very average SAT scores got into UCSB. Very often yes, as you will be up against a hard-capped quota (and in some cases these days, fabricated transcripts and resumes from China...). Though some schools are easier than others in that regard.
I don't think being international disadvantages you. What does disadvantage you is being international in need of financial aid, and this is only true for certain schools that don't have need-blind admissions.
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On April 01 2013 01:27 Abstinence wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2013 10:30 ticklishmusic wrote:
does anyone know about the crowding problems at berkeley? what crowding problems
I don't think it's too crowded although it is a very large school. If you are looking towards grad schools though and you do come here, make sure you try to get research opportunities and stuff here. They are relatively easy to find as long as you keep talking to people. I have friends who help out research at LBNL(the national lab near here). I'm actually graduating from Berkeley this semester and will be going to UChicago for graduate school so don't think your opportunities are limited from here .
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Not going to ask this on CollegeConfidential because I don't like them. Random admissions question from a junior. Doesn't deserve its own thread and I don't know where else I could posit this question on TL.
If any of you currently attend MIT or Caltech, this is directed to you. Is making the USNCO national exam a big deal (and will a 57/60 on the local get me recognition)? Is top 150 on the national exam considered pretty good at these schools, or should I try to make the study camp for the IChO, which is top 20? This is as a prospective chemistry major at those two schools.
Also, would the latter half of my summer be better spent doing research in preparation for hopefully entering in the Intel STS and Siemens competitions or focusing on some nifty programming project? I visited MIT recently and loved it, and I really want to go there.
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On April 01 2013 02:15 Recognizable wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2013 02:07 Xxazn4lyfe51xX wrote:On March 31 2013 07:07 tutsicockroach wrote:
my friend got 2400 for his SAT I and for his SAT II he got 800 for maths II, 760 for literature and 800 for physics. He applied for engineering and got rejected from every single ivy league uni he applied to, he was finally accepted to stanford and accepted.
he suspects he got rejected cause his extra-curriculars were below average. also, he's australian and applied as an international student -- not sure if that hurt his chances. Probably to his suspicions, almost certainly yes to the international application. Is being an international student a disadvantage? I friend of mine who isn't particularly smart with very average SAT scores got into UCSB.
Hate to say it, but absolutely yes for the the "higher ranked" schools. Being Asian and an international student myself, I was extremely lucky on top of being extremely lucky in the first place to get in, because my school had no EA/ED when I applied, and regular decision percentages are crazy. People claim internationals lack "extracurricular" activities, and in some cases yes - but that's because their cultures/societies have different barriers; not everyone has access to sports/MUN/debate/student gov/whatnot. As such, we all know that we've got fewer areas that we can excel in, and as such, competition in those areas is ridiculous, and is therefore that much harder to shine.
For example, this kid I knew in my class (but tbh hated) got 2400 SAT 1, 800s on his SAT 2s, 5's on several APs (our school offered like 1 AP), and did very well in school (top 10 in grade). He didn't get into anything in the Ivies (unlucky, but great, cuz that arrogant bast really needed to shut up about himself). I had the same test scores with a few more 5s and was ranked better, but basically sacrificed my entire life outside of high school to enroll part-time in university higher-level math classes, 5 varsity sports, math competitions, volunteer work, honor band, etc... and ended up very lucky. Clearly I had more opportunities than the average international student... but the point is, it's so tough. US kids are "supposed" to have a life out of school. International kids... forget it. Party in college.
TL;DR - If you're an international student out there, yes - it's extremely unfair, but you've gotta work so much harder to stand out. Schools seem to have unofficial caps, and that's just the reality of US universities.
Complain all you like, but the reality is - put that energy into working hard, or nowhere at all. Accept it and try to succeed, or reject it and fail. This system will hopefully eventually be righted, but it likely won't be by the time you've applied.
On a lighter note - if you were an international student, and you didn't buy your way into a good college - a million congratulations!!! Many Americans don't understand why this is such an amazing thing for us... but your families will know. Seriously, I've never seen my family more happy than the day I got into college... I'm sure a lot of the Asians here will agree
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Late thing, just got a bunch of college acceptances. Good things come to those who wait I guess. I got into RPI and University of Miami, Hofstra and St. John's College. Damn, so late too.
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99% sure I'm going to tufts! anyone else going/ anyone there with any wisdom?
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So I'm pretty decided on Berkeley now. By any chance, is anyone familiar with the fall program for freshmen (http://fpf.berkeley.edu/) and how quickly it fills up/whether I'm basically ensured a spot if I sign up on the opening date?
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probably college of william and mary for me
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On April 06 2013 16:23 slyderturtle wrote:
99% sure I'm going to tufts! anyone else going/ anyone there with any wisdom?
I'm on the waiting list for them, so I might see you there :D, but for real, that place is amazing. You are gonna have an awesome time.
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CU Boulder baby! Lets go Buffs!
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Okay so I'm from California and I've applied to most of the UC schools and I was wondering if anyone else had gotten any word from any of the schools yet? I haven't gotten any acceptance/denial letters yet...
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Have you checked your email and the respective websites for the schools? AFAIK, the last decisions (Berkeley) came out on the 28th, online. At least UCLA and Cal decisions can be seen on their websites. I also got snail mail stuff later though. If there's still nothing you might want to contact admissions or something.
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On April 08 2013 22:19 iaeuy wrote:
Have you checked your email and the respective websites for the schools? AFAIK, the last decisions (Berkeley) came out on the 28th, online. At least UCLA and Cal decisions can be seen on their websites. I also got snail mail stuff later though. If there's still nothing you might want to contact admissions or something.
I didn't apply to those schools, but I did receive an email from UCSB saying that they will be sending decisions until the end of this month. Was just wondering if anyone has heard from them yet
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I just got accepted into Oklahoma State University after doing 2 years at a community college here in Oklahoma, not quite as impressive as some people here who are just coming out of high school and such because I had to do community college because I royally screwed up my first 2 years of high school grade wise. Just happy to actually make it into a University now after taking a different path then some people.
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On April 06 2013 21:47 docvoc wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2013 16:23 slyderturtle wrote:
99% sure I'm going to tufts! anyone else going/ anyone there with any wisdom? I'm on the waiting list for them, so I might see you there :D, but for real, that place is amazing. You are gonna have an awesome time.
Thought about applying to Tufts (did a Tufts summer program in France) but I wanted to play football...and their team hasn't won a game in 3 years.
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Anyone gonna be at Franklin & Marshall tomorrow?
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On April 06 2013 05:39 Chocolate wrote:
Not going to ask this on CollegeConfidential because I don't like them. Random admissions question from a junior. Doesn't deserve its own thread and I don't know where else I could posit this question on TL.
If any of you currently attend MIT or Caltech, this is directed to you. Is making the USNCO national exam a big deal (and will a 57/60 on the local get me recognition)? Is top 150 on the national exam considered pretty good at these schools, or should I try to make the study camp for the IChO, which is top 20? This is as a prospective chemistry major at those two schools.
Also, would the latter half of my summer be better spent doing research in preparation for hopefully entering in the Intel STS and Siemens competitions or focusing on some nifty programming project? I visited MIT recently and loved it, and I really want to go there.
I'm guessing that USNCO = US National Chemistry Olympiad.
For reference, MIT recruits directly out of the International Physics Team, so I'm guessing that Chemistry is no different. If you can make something like IMO equivalent, you'd be in an incredible position to get accepted anywhere.
As for research projects, as long as you accomplish something significant and perhaps win some good prizes, you'll be in a good position to get accepted anywhere. I'd recommend science fair type stuff over programming if you're going for a chemistry major.
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On April 12 2013 11:32 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2013 21:47 docvoc wrote:On April 06 2013 16:23 slyderturtle wrote:
99% sure I'm going to tufts! anyone else going/ anyone there with any wisdom? I'm on the waiting list for them, so I might see you there :D, but for real, that place is amazing. You are gonna have an awesome time. Thought about applying to Tufts (did a Tufts summer program in France) but I wanted to play football...and their team hasn't won a game in 3 years.
Get any offers for football?
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On April 12 2013 11:55 pikagrue wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2013 05:39 Chocolate wrote:
Not going to ask this on CollegeConfidential because I don't like them. Random admissions question from a junior. Doesn't deserve its own thread and I don't know where else I could posit this question on TL.
If any of you currently attend MIT or Caltech, this is directed to you. Is making the USNCO national exam a big deal (and will a 57/60 on the local get me recognition)? Is top 150 on the national exam considered pretty good at these schools, or should I try to make the study camp for the IChO, which is top 20? This is as a prospective chemistry major at those two schools.
Also, would the latter half of my summer be better spent doing research in preparation for hopefully entering in the Intel STS and Siemens competitions or focusing on some nifty programming project? I visited MIT recently and loved it, and I really want to go there. I'm guessing that USNCO = US National Chemistry Olympiad. For reference, MIT recruits directly out of the International Physics Team, so I'm guessing that Chemistry is no different. If you can make something like IMO equivalent, you'd be in an incredible position to get accepted anywhere. As for research projects, as long as you accomplish something significant and perhaps win some good prizes, you'll be in a good position to get accepted anywhere. I'd recommend science fair type stuff over programming if you're going for a chemistry major.
I took the test today and I don't think I made it to the team. USNCO national exam is the USAPhO equivalent, though a little less selective. There are, however, a lot of different accolades you can get from the USNCO. I think I probably made top 150 out of the approximately 1000 that took the test, which has its own award. I fucked up completely on the non-multiple choice sections so the team or IChO seems to be out of the running Do you think top 150 would be somewhat important to them, or not good enough?
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On April 13 2013 04:51 autoexec wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2013 11:32 darthfoley wrote:On April 06 2013 21:47 docvoc wrote:On April 06 2013 16:23 slyderturtle wrote:
99% sure I'm going to tufts! anyone else going/ anyone there with any wisdom? I'm on the waiting list for them, so I might see you there :D, but for real, that place is amazing. You are gonna have an awesome time. Thought about applying to Tufts (did a Tufts summer program in France) but I wanted to play football...and their team hasn't won a game in 3 years. Get any offers for football?
Nothing D1. I'll be playing at either Franklin&Marshall, Dickinson, or Middlebury (if I get in off the waitlist).
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On April 06 2013 05:39 Chocolate wrote:
Not going to ask this on CollegeConfidential because I don't like them. Random admissions question from a junior. Doesn't deserve its own thread and I don't know where else I could posit this question on TL.
If any of you currently attend MIT or Caltech, this is directed to you. Is making the USNCO national exam a big deal (and will a 57/60 on the local get me recognition)? Is top 150 on the national exam considered pretty good at these schools, or should I try to make the study camp for the IChO, which is top 20? This is as a prospective chemistry major at those two schools.
Also, would the latter half of my summer be better spent doing research in preparation for hopefully entering in the Intel STS and Siemens competitions or focusing on some nifty programming project? I visited MIT recently and loved it, and I really want to go there.
I don't go to MIT or Caltech,but I go to a similarly prestigious school and I did Chemistry Olympiad in high school.
Top 150 on national exam doesn't really mean too much, but it's certainly nice. I know somebody who got Top 50, with perfect SATs etc., who didn't get in to either school. Chemistry Olympiad alone really won't guarantee your admission into either school I think, unless you're on the IChO team, and even then other factors still matter.
Also for the second part, it's up to you. It depends on how good of a research project you can get or what programming project you'll be doing.
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On April 15 2013 09:29 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2013 04:51 autoexec wrote:On April 12 2013 11:32 darthfoley wrote:On April 06 2013 21:47 docvoc wrote:On April 06 2013 16:23 slyderturtle wrote:
99% sure I'm going to tufts! anyone else going/ anyone there with any wisdom? I'm on the waiting list for them, so I might see you there :D, but for real, that place is amazing. You are gonna have an awesome time. Thought about applying to Tufts (did a Tufts summer program in France) but I wanted to play football...and their team hasn't won a game in 3 years. Get any offers for football? Nothing D1. I'll be playing at either Franklin&Marshall, Dickinson, or Middlebury (if I get in off the waitlist).
Goodluck with it! I play in high school, but I am 99% sure I will not play in college. I want to go to a big name school, like Stanford, and it would be really tough to play there. Not to mention I don't want football taking away from my schooling time, since that is the real reason to go to college.
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On April 15 2013 10:04 autoexec wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2013 09:29 darthfoley wrote:On April 13 2013 04:51 autoexec wrote:On April 12 2013 11:32 darthfoley wrote:On April 06 2013 21:47 docvoc wrote:On April 06 2013 16:23 slyderturtle wrote:
99% sure I'm going to tufts! anyone else going/ anyone there with any wisdom? I'm on the waiting list for them, so I might see you there :D, but for real, that place is amazing. You are gonna have an awesome time. Thought about applying to Tufts (did a Tufts summer program in France) but I wanted to play football...and their team hasn't won a game in 3 years. Get any offers for football? Nothing D1. I'll be playing at either Franklin&Marshall, Dickinson, or Middlebury (if I get in off the waitlist). Goodluck with it! I play in high school, but I am 99% sure I will not play in college. I want to go to a big name school, like Stanford, and it would be really tough to play there. Not to mention I don't want football taking away from my schooling time, since that is the real reason to go to college.
I had similar thoughts to yours (although i always wanted to play college football, either walk on or scholarship). Do you have any highlights? If you're interested, my senior highlights are here: http://www.hudl.com/athlete/919027/karsten-bratt
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Unfortunately, I don't have any game film. I am just a freshman and I play on Varsity, so I don't have many "big plays" even though I did get somewhat considerable playing time. It seems like you have a good knack for knowing where the ball is going and getting there. Good luck playing in college!
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On April 16 2013 07:38 autoexec wrote:
Unfortunately, I don't have any game film. I am just a freshman and I play on Varsity, so I don't have many "big plays" even though I did get somewhat considerable playing time. It seems like you have a good knack for knowing where the ball is going and getting there. Good luck playing in college!
Freshman on varsity is serious biz! Good luck kiddo, hope you make it.
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Just woke up and found out that I got into UCLA! Can't believe it, I never really thought I'd make it past community college...
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On April 28 2013 00:41 surLoop wrote:
Just woke up and found out that I got into UCLA! Can't believe it, I never really thought I'd make it past community college...
Congrats dude~~~!!!!
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Looking at this thread as a HS sophomore kind of depresses me. I wanted to go to a good school, but all you guys have better GPAs than me and get denied. Hopefully I can pull it up a bit from a 3.5, and can use some of my sports/music stuff.
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On April 28 2013 00:59 9-BiT wrote:
Looking at this thread as a HS sophomore kind of depresses me. I wanted to go to a good school, but all you guys have better GPAs than me and get denied. Hopefully I can pull it up a bit from a 3.5, and can use some of my sports/music stuff.
A lot more has to do with how well you can write an essay, and how unique of a character you can represent yourself as.
GPA isn't everything, so long as you have a decent GPA (3.8 is good), it won't be holding you back. If you're good at sports, scholarships there are great, music looks good as well, but depending on the school, showing ambition and some initiative towards achieving your academic and career goals is much more persuasive. For computer science at Cal, my work experience doing some entry level coding gave me the edge on my transfer application.
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On April 28 2013 00:41 surLoop wrote:
Just woke up and found out that I got into UCLA! Can't believe it, I never really thought I'd make it past community college...
Lol thats awesome
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My mid term marks went into UBC and SFU on Tuesday, now I'm just waiting for a response.
Edit: So how does the 4 point GPA system work, is there a chart that just shows the correlation, I'm sitting at an 88 right now with my midterm marks.
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On April 28 2013 00:59 9-BiT wrote:
Looking at this thread as a HS sophomore kind of depresses me. I wanted to go to a good school, but all you guys have better GPAs than me and get denied. Hopefully I can pull it up a bit from a 3.5, and can use some of my sports/music stuff.
The best advice i can give you is to aim high (apply to great selective schools), and don't get your hopes up.
I went 2/2/7 and only got into my (albeit good) safety schools.
Hoping to get in off Middlebury's waitlist...
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On April 28 2013 02:48 Retgery wrote:
My mid term marks went into UBC and SFU on Tuesday, now I'm just waiting for a response.
Edit: So how does the 4 point GPA system work, is there a chart that just shows the correlation, I'm sitting at an 88 right now with my midterm marks.
The straightforward version is an A is worth 4 points, a B is worth 3, a C is worth 2, a D is worth 1, and a F is worth 0. You add up the points, then divide by the number of classes.
They tend to have this sort of cutoff
A+ 4.3 (sometimes it counts as a 4.0)
A 4.0
A- 3.7
B+ 3.3
B 3.0
B- 2.7
C+ 2.3
C 2.0
D 1.0
If you have an 88/100 you're sitting around a 3.3.
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Some schools have different systems for letter grades. For some, an A is 90-100, while others have an A as 93-100. Do you calculate your standard GPA (the one you just posted) with the letter grade by your school? Or is there a specific letter grade range done by the College Board?
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On April 28 2013 08:01 autoexec wrote:
Some schools have different systems for letter grades. For some, an A is 90-100, while others have an A as 93-100. Do you calculate your standard GPA (the one you just posted) with the letter grade by your school? Or is there a specific letter grade range done by the College Board?
There's no "standard" GPA range. It's really up to the school. Some schools decide to give +/- grades. Some schools decide that +/- don't affect the GPA (A's are 4, B's are 3, etc.). Some schools decide that they do.
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Are school give percentages, and and 80 is considered and A, but 90+ being an A would make more sense.
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Going to Franklin & Marshall college in the fall!
(unless i get in off Middlebury's waitlist)
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On March 31 2013 12:06 ProtossGG wrote:
Hi all,
Accepted:
MIT
Stats:
SAT: 2400
SAT2: Math1,2,Physics: 800
AP scores (from previous years): Calc AB: 5, Physics B: 5, Gov, English Lit, US History II, Psychology: All 5
Currently taking Calc BC and Physics C, should probably get 5s in those.
GPA: 3.6 unweighted (not sure what weighted is -- must be higher since my rank is decent)
Rank: 13/700
I will be going to MIT.
If anyone else is planning to go to MIT, you should come to our CSL meetings. Also if you want to start practicing with us now, send me a PM
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I live in California and applied to most of the UC schools and I'm an engineering major. Okay here's the battle report:
Applied: UCD, UCSB, Irvine, Riverside, Merced, and UCSD
Accepted: UCSD
Ouch... I didn't get in on my main major but on my alternate still engineering though.
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Accepted: Pratt Institute, MS Architecture (half of the tutition) ^^ I will be there at 16th of May
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On March 17 2013 12:25 LosingID8 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 12:19 Grimmyman123 wrote:
Its a look at me and how smart I am thread! there's always someone like this every year kids worked hard for 4 years to gain these acceptances. let them have their 15 minutes of fame.
I believe getting into a good school is more important for their future than bragging about fame? lol
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On March 31 2013 09:50 sToFu wrote:Bio: Perfect test scores across the board(SAT, 8 APs, 4 SAT2) except 790 SAT2 US Terrible essay-writing Research experience in two national labs Asian in SF Bay Area Lotsa math/physics competition accolades Swimming 3 years Lotsa volunteer tutoring work through several organizations Results MIT/Caltech (EA) - Defer/Defer -> Reject/Reject USC - Full scholarship CMU, Duke - Accept Top 6 UCs - Accept + Regents (except UCLA, screw you too) Case Western - ~$30,000/year scholarship Going to USC
Damn really? That's how tough the competition has gotten these days? Holy cow.
I mean, it does suck for Asian males in the US applying to non-UCs, but still, that's pretty ridiculous.
To everyone who didn't get into his dream school - don't sweat it man. There's a long way left to go in life. Your undergrad will make little difference in the long run especially if you decide to go grad school later on. You guys should just enjoy what's left of your senioritis. And do something fun this summer. Don't just ladder all day. Travel or something. As you get older, time becomes more and more precious.
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On April 15 2013 10:04 autoexec wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2013 09:29 darthfoley wrote:On April 13 2013 04:51 autoexec wrote:On April 12 2013 11:32 darthfoley wrote:On April 06 2013 21:47 docvoc wrote:On April 06 2013 16:23 slyderturtle wrote:
99% sure I'm going to tufts! anyone else going/ anyone there with any wisdom? I'm on the waiting list for them, so I might see you there :D, but for real, that place is amazing. You are gonna have an awesome time. Thought about applying to Tufts (did a Tufts summer program in France) but I wanted to play football...and their team hasn't won a game in 3 years. Get any offers for football? Nothing D1. I'll be playing at either Franklin&Marshall, Dickinson, or Middlebury (if I get in off the waitlist). Goodluck with it! I play in high school, but I am 99% sure I will not play in college. I want to go to a big name school, like Stanford, and it would be really tough to play there. Not to mention I don't want football taking away from my schooling time, since that is the real reason to go to college.
LOL
In Stanford there is the hugest SC2 and Dota and League of Legends (especially LoL) scene. Everyone there is a tryhard. Once you get into Stanford, you can play all day.
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