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For those top students who are disappointed by rejections and probably experiencing academic "failure" for the first time, just keep a few things in mind:
1. Assuming you applied smartly (ie not just HYPSM) you will likely gain admittance to one of the top universities in the country.
2. Your college doesn't define you, it's what you make out of your opportunities, and believe me they are endless at any top school.
3. Even if you feel like you're "settling" by going to a "lesser" school than whatever your dream school was, chances are that you'll find a ton of people at that school that are more driven, more talented, and more intelligent than you. Don't underestimate the caliber of students at any of the top schools or else you'll suddenly find yourself an average or below average student.
4. Once you decide on a school to attend, forget about the rejections or other schools you turned down. Don't wallow in misery and bitterness that you aren't attending your dream school. If you give your school a fair chance, you'll probably end up loving wherever you attend. |
On March 30 2013 14:22 docvoc wrote:
You are significantly over my level, since I had a .4 less gpa and much lower scores cuz of outside issues, but I can relate to what you are talking about emotionally. I want to commit suicide right now, I feel so disappointed in myself. I've spent the last 4 years taking enormous shit from my teachers, having tons of random family problems and attempting to work through it all to get into a school I love. I didn't get into any so far. I have been rejected from all but tufts. I got into 3 that aren't that great imo, they are midlevel. I don't know what to do with myself. I cried today looking at 3 of my rejections. I was told when I did the IB that I would get into where I wanted to if I did the work. My classes were hard, they didn't give A's in some cases, the teacher's weren't my advocates, in fact they lobbied to lower my grade, and colleges don't give 3 shits about the IB program or understand how it works. I kept on reading my John's Hopkins rejection over and over, looking at the part where it said that another institution that better fit my educational needs would take me in for sure. I've gotten into no such place. If I don't get into USC... I don't know what I'm going to do with myself. I've never hated myself so much in my entire life.
girls at tufts are way hotter and sluttier than the hopkin's lasses. there might be a silver lining here, possibly located in your underwear drawer.
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On March 30 2013 09:11 Aerisky wrote:
Lol I feel like garbage. I know people from my school (which is normal enough) whom I thought were on similar standing as me going to Duke, Yale, Columbia, Stanford, and Princeton, maybe some others I haven't heard. I know others not from my school who are deciding among Yale, MIT, Stanford, Princeton, maybe more. I know it's a hollow and pointless endeavor listing shit out and comparing myself but I can't fucking help it. Like there's something wrong with me, like what I've done the past four years academically or whatever was for nothing.
Maybe undergrad is different but as a gradstudent both me and the people I know here chose UCB _over_ the ivies. We didnt go due to lack of options. Seriously the school is really good and you shouldnt be too upset. As a undergrad they will hold your hand less than they would have at say yale, but as long as you are independent, hard working and know how to seek opportunities the opportunities you do find here will not be inferior to the ones at the schools you mentioned.
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+ Show Spoiler [results] +Accepted:
Berkeley (deferred admission)
UCLA
UCSD regents
UCD regents
UCI regents
UCSB regents
UMich
CMU (college of arts and sciences)
WashU (with large scholarship)
Waitlist:
CMU (computer science)
Reject:
Cornell
Harvey Mudd
MIT
Caltech
Brown
+ Show Spoiler [stats] +SAT- 2320 (800 math 770 cr 750 writing)
SATIIs- 800 math2, 800 physics, 790 bioe, 770 chem
APs-Stats, Psych, Chem, Physics B, Calc BC+subscore (all 5), taking English and Physics C this year
GPA- 3.8 unweighted, decently rigorous courses (but none of the self-study APs and community college courses that many of my classmates have)
ECs- bad. Basically only do contest math, which I did poorly on and had no major accomplishments (AIME but no USAMO, very active and participated in a bunch of stuff throughout the years but never really won much). Spent summers at AwesomeMath summer camp.
Essays- mehhhhhh
Interviews- bad
Asian male, California Bay Area
Highly competitive public school, class size ~600
Applied mostly for math departments
Probably looking to go to Cal, as CMU is twice as expensive.
No real surprises IMO, though I wasn't aware that it was possible to get deferred admission for Cal.
+ Show Spoiler [qq rant] + Spent most of high school derping, doing nothing, and wanting to get good at math + videogames and in the end doing neither. I was definitely capable of doing a lot better, but I'm bad at life. Leaving high school, I feel that I've learned very little, accomplished very little, and haven't learned how to apply myself. I'm scared that maybe I'll never stop being a scrub and that I'll never become actually good at anything. Hopefully I'll learn and gain a lot from college, even if I'm not going to my dream school (MIT).
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Did admissions get harder? Holy shit... I'm looking at some of the member's SATs and GPAs and I feel 4 years ago you would've gotten in to the Ivys imo...
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SATs and GPAs don't matter as much for Ivys anymore, they're looking for talent and creativity or if you're good at sports. The admission rates for them are so inflated due to every other student trying to get in.
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On March 30 2013 14:55 babylon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2013 14:22 docvoc wrote:On March 30 2013 07:28 Aerisky wrote:Accepted: UIUC UC: Davis regents, SD regents, LA (rec was late, no regents), Berk (no invite for regents :C) Rejected: Cornell Columbia Harvard Penn MIT Stanford UMich, icing on the rejection cake Waitlisted: Princeton + Show Spoiler +Some stats of mine:
2400 SAT I
SAT IIs: 800 SAT II Physics, 790 US History, 790 Math, 760 Chemistry, 700 French w/o listening (lol)
APs: 5s on euro, USH, Physics B, calc BC, enviro. sci; 4 in chem, 3 in French lang; taking macro, micro, bio, psych, stat, amer gov, and eng lit this year--classes as well as exams
GPA: 4.53 weighted, 3.98 un
My school doesn't rank but I guess I'm somewhere in top 10% maybe
6-week research program in '11 and an internship last summer in line w/ my interests
Piano for 13+ years but hadn't been doing that well recently
I also was a peer mentor leader, and led a music group that performed for charity and raised money, really rewarding stuff and I urge any of the younger guys get into that if you can! Really great experience if you have anything like it on your high school campuses (or even outside of school).
Some other stuff not worth listing
Asian male
Intended major: EE though I'm not too sure Intellectually I was prepared for rejection but emotionally I still had some hopes. Nope. Really wanted to get out of my state and go somewhere else. It's sad because I feel like I could have put in easily 50% of the effort and probably still have done exactly as well, and have been happier for it (both because I'd have enjoyed life in hs more and because I'd actually feel happy to get accepted, instead of feeling like I had to "settle"). Well it's sad for a lot of reasons, but I'll leave it at that. Yesterday was not a fun day, reading 4 rejection letters and a waitlist letter back-to-back. Rejected from Stanford today to cap off an altogether shitty week in admissions and in general. I've visited most of the schools on my list and I really did not want to go to a UC though :/ UCB in particular I live very close to, and I didn't like it at all when I visited. Well, it's the best I've got and I'm honored they would take me when evidently nobody else wanted me. Probably going to end up going there and liking it (or so I hope), but for now I still feel like a failure. ILL gave me money but it's out of state so barely cheaper than UC, and I won't be able to switch out if I decide engineering isn't for me. Good luck with your ultimate decisions rising college frosh, there are some really bright kids here on TL!!  You are significantly over my level, since I had a .4 less gpa and much lower scores cuz of outside issues, but I can relate to what you are talking about emotionally. I want to commit suicide right now, I feel so disappointed in myself. I've spent the last 4 years taking enormous shit from my teachers, having tons of random family problems and attempting to work through it all to get into a school I love. I didn't get into any so far. I have been rejected from all but tufts. I got into 3 that aren't that great imo, they are midlevel. I don't know what to do with myself. I cried today looking at 3 of my rejections. I was told when I did the IB that I would get into where I wanted to if I did the work. My classes were hard, they didn't give A's in some cases, the teacher's weren't my advocates, in fact they lobbied to lower my grade, and colleges don't give 3 shits about the IB program or understand how it works. I kept on reading my John's Hopkins rejection over and over, looking at the part where it said that another institution that better fit my educational needs would take me in for sure. I've gotten into no such place. If I don't get into USC... I don't know what I'm going to do with myself. I've never hated myself so much in my entire life. Dude, Tufts is an amazing T1 university. It's also near Boston. PS: Baltimore sucks.
I know it is, but I'm a legacy there. That is the only reason I was waitlisted I feel, and if that is true, I won't be taken off the waitlist  . I hope I get into USC, that would be the last school that I would be applying to that didn't ask to me apply.
Guys I need some help understanding some schools, how good are St. John's College, Hofstra, Oglethorpe, and RPI (note they want me for liberal arts, not maths). Those schools wanted me to apply, should I go to any of these?
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On March 30 2013 22:40 docvoc wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2013 14:55 babylon wrote:On March 30 2013 14:22 docvoc wrote:On March 30 2013 07:28 Aerisky wrote:Accepted: UIUC UC: Davis regents, SD regents, LA (rec was late, no regents), Berk (no invite for regents :C) Rejected: Cornell Columbia Harvard Penn MIT Stanford UMich, icing on the rejection cake Waitlisted: Princeton + Show Spoiler +Some stats of mine:
2400 SAT I
SAT IIs: 800 SAT II Physics, 790 US History, 790 Math, 760 Chemistry, 700 French w/o listening (lol)
APs: 5s on euro, USH, Physics B, calc BC, enviro. sci; 4 in chem, 3 in French lang; taking macro, micro, bio, psych, stat, amer gov, and eng lit this year--classes as well as exams
GPA: 4.53 weighted, 3.98 un
My school doesn't rank but I guess I'm somewhere in top 10% maybe
6-week research program in '11 and an internship last summer in line w/ my interests
Piano for 13+ years but hadn't been doing that well recently
I also was a peer mentor leader, and led a music group that performed for charity and raised money, really rewarding stuff and I urge any of the younger guys get into that if you can! Really great experience if you have anything like it on your high school campuses (or even outside of school).
Some other stuff not worth listing
Asian male
Intended major: EE though I'm not too sure Intellectually I was prepared for rejection but emotionally I still had some hopes. Nope. Really wanted to get out of my state and go somewhere else. It's sad because I feel like I could have put in easily 50% of the effort and probably still have done exactly as well, and have been happier for it (both because I'd have enjoyed life in hs more and because I'd actually feel happy to get accepted, instead of feeling like I had to "settle"). Well it's sad for a lot of reasons, but I'll leave it at that. Yesterday was not a fun day, reading 4 rejection letters and a waitlist letter back-to-back. Rejected from Stanford today to cap off an altogether shitty week in admissions and in general. I've visited most of the schools on my list and I really did not want to go to a UC though :/ UCB in particular I live very close to, and I didn't like it at all when I visited. Well, it's the best I've got and I'm honored they would take me when evidently nobody else wanted me. Probably going to end up going there and liking it (or so I hope), but for now I still feel like a failure. ILL gave me money but it's out of state so barely cheaper than UC, and I won't be able to switch out if I decide engineering isn't for me. Good luck with your ultimate decisions rising college frosh, there are some really bright kids here on TL!! You are significantly over my level, since I had a .4 less gpa and much lower scores cuz of outside issues, but I can relate to what you are talking about emotionally. I want to commit suicide right now, I feel so disappointed in myself. I've spent the last 4 years taking enormous shit from my teachers, having tons of random family problems and attempting to work through it all to get into a school I love. I didn't get into any so far. I have been rejected from all but tufts. I got into 3 that aren't that great imo, they are midlevel. I don't know what to do with myself. I cried today looking at 3 of my rejections. I was told when I did the IB that I would get into where I wanted to if I did the work. My classes were hard, they didn't give A's in some cases, the teacher's weren't my advocates, in fact they lobbied to lower my grade, and colleges don't give 3 shits about the IB program or understand how it works. I kept on reading my John's Hopkins rejection over and over, looking at the part where it said that another institution that better fit my educational needs would take me in for sure. I've gotten into no such place. If I don't get into USC... I don't know what I'm going to do with myself. I've never hated myself so much in my entire life. Dude, Tufts is an amazing T1 university. It's also near Boston. PS: Baltimore sucks. I know it is, but I'm a legacy there. That is the only reason I was waitlisted I feel, and if that is true, I won't be taken off the waitlist . I hope I get into USC, that would be the last school that I would be applying to that didn't ask to me apply. Guys I need some help understanding some schools, how good are St. John's College, Hofstra, Oglethorpe, and RPI (note they want me for liberal arts, not maths). Those schools wanted me to apply, should I go to any of these?
Every school initially wants you to apply to them.
That way they have more options and the possibility for better students. Larger sample size, blah blah blah.
Most of the invitations are hollow until they actually see your application, and so even the warmest gesture of "You really need to apply to us; don't worry about not getting in- you're a shoo-in  " means nothing if you don't have what they're looking for. I've seen legacies turned down at the universities that their entire families went to; nothing's decided before you apply.
As far as whether or not you should go to College X: It should line up with your potential interests, it should be affordable, and it should have a variety of other interesting programs, clubs, courses, and other things you might consider checking out in college.
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On March 17 2013 12:36 Grimmyman123 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 12:25 LosingID8 wrote:On March 17 2013 12:19 Grimmyman123 wrote:
Its a look at me and how smart I am thread! there's always someone like this every year kids worked hard for 4 years to gain these acceptances. let them have their 15 minutes of fame. I went back to school and busted my ass to learn the new curriculum, suffered as old course codes no longer applied, and smashed my grades with above 95% average of my courses taken and you don't see my boasting,bragging and showing off.
We just did
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On March 30 2013 16:23 Disregard wrote:
SATs and GPAs don't matter as much for Ivys anymore, they're looking for talent and creativity or if you're good at sports. The admission rates for them are so inflated due to every other student trying to get in.
SAT + GPAs are just a "filter" for Ivy Leagues now. That means they'll auto filter out anyone who's GPA and SAT aren't high enough; then they go through the rest of admissions.
http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2012/12/19/fears-of-an-asian-quota-in-the-ivy-league/statistics-indicate-an-ivy-league-asian-quota
Interesting article; I think it's sort of a known secret that Ivy leagues have been starting to limit the percentage of AA in their schools; otherwise they'd end up like UC system where it's like 40% asian americans.
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Accepted: Boston University, Boston College, University of Michigan, Penn State, SUNY Binghamton
Rejected: CMU, NYU stern , Cornell (obv)
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Any wannabe dentists may drop me a PM if they're interested in the course.
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So you did not get into an Ivy league school?
I mean whoop f*cking whoop. It's not like being the most selective university means being the best.
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On March 30 2013 23:36 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2013 16:23 Disregard wrote:
SATs and GPAs don't matter as much for Ivys anymore, they're looking for talent and creativity or if you're good at sports. The admission rates for them are so inflated due to every other student trying to get in. SAT + GPAs are just a "filter" for Ivy Leagues now. That means they'll auto filter out anyone who's GPA and SAT aren't high enough; then they go through the rest of admissions. http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2012/12/19/fears-of-an-asian-quota-in-the-ivy-league/statistics-indicate-an-ivy-league-asian-quotaInteresting article; I think it's sort of a known secret that Ivy leagues have been starting to limit the percentage of AA in their schools; otherwise they'd end up like UC system where it's like 40% asian americans.
Pour more money into the universities with no affirmative action so that they become better than the Ivies.
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On March 31 2013 01:04 julianto wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2013 23:36 wei2coolman wrote:On March 30 2013 16:23 Disregard wrote:
SATs and GPAs don't matter as much for Ivys anymore, they're looking for talent and creativity or if you're good at sports. The admission rates for them are so inflated due to every other student trying to get in. SAT + GPAs are just a "filter" for Ivy Leagues now. That means they'll auto filter out anyone who's GPA and SAT aren't high enough; then they go through the rest of admissions. http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2012/12/19/fears-of-an-asian-quota-in-the-ivy-league/statistics-indicate-an-ivy-league-asian-quotaInteresting article; I think it's sort of a known secret that Ivy leagues have been starting to limit the percentage of AA in their schools; otherwise they'd end up like UC system where it's like 40% asian americans. Pour more money into the universities with no affirmative action so that they become better than the Ivies.
I don't think that'll help much. One of the reasons Ivy's are the best is because everyone thinks they are the best and thus attract the most talent/funding and best professors.
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just saw this thread.
admissions were so hard this year! I got mostly rejections
wasn't left with many options but I would REALLY appreciate any information or advice you may have on these schools:
Accepted:
College of William and Mary
Boston University
Oberlin
Rutgers
Ursinus
Waitlisted:
NYU Stern
George Washington
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On March 31 2013 01:23 Recognizable wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2013 01:04 julianto wrote:On March 30 2013 23:36 wei2coolman wrote:On March 30 2013 16:23 Disregard wrote:
SATs and GPAs don't matter as much for Ivys anymore, they're looking for talent and creativity or if you're good at sports. The admission rates for them are so inflated due to every other student trying to get in. SAT + GPAs are just a "filter" for Ivy Leagues now. That means they'll auto filter out anyone who's GPA and SAT aren't high enough; then they go through the rest of admissions. http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2012/12/19/fears-of-an-asian-quota-in-the-ivy-league/statistics-indicate-an-ivy-league-asian-quotaInteresting article; I think it's sort of a known secret that Ivy leagues have been starting to limit the percentage of AA in their schools; otherwise they'd end up like UC system where it's like 40% asian americans. Pour more money into the universities with no affirmative action so that they become better than the Ivies. I don't think that'll help much. One of the reasons Ivy's are the best is because everyone thinks they are the best and thus attract the most talent/funding and best professors.
UC's are proof otherwise. Best public school system, and offers comparable education, and more often than not rank in the same places as IVY leagues. UCSD/UCLA/UCB; all rank equally with Ivys, and are much cheaper. Ivy tuition cost is expensive as fuck, but that's more so because it's a private school system, not because they're "top tier". A lot of private universities cost as much as Ivy league schools, even if they aren't as well known.
Even the lower UC System schools like UCD/UCI/UCSB/UCSC/UCR, rank very favorably over all in comparison to overall top universities in the US.
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On March 31 2013 01:42 tozi wrote:just saw this thread. admissions were so hard this year! I got mostly rejections wasn't left with many options but I would REALLY appreciate any information or advice you may have on these schools: Accepted: College of William and Mary Boston University Oberlin Rutgers Ursinus Waitlisted: NYU Stern George Washington
I'm from VA, and I know a ton of really smart, chill people at W&M, so you should definitely look into that, especially if you're in VA. Oberlin, as I understand, is much weirder than all the other places you got in (which isn't necessarily a bad thing if you're into that) so take that for what it's worth.
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On March 30 2013 15:31 iaeuy wrote:+ Show Spoiler [results] +Accepted:
Berkeley (deferred admission)
UCLA
UCSD regents
UCD regents
UCI regents
UCSB regents
UMich
CMU (college of arts and sciences)
WashU (with large scholarship)
Waitlist:
CMU (computer science)
Reject:
Cornell
Harvey Mudd
MIT
Caltech
Brown SAT- 2320 (800 math 770 cr 750 writing)
SATIIs- 800 math2, 800 physics, 790 bioe, 770 chem
APs-Stats, Psych, Chem, Physics B, Calc BC+subscore (all 5), taking English and Physics C this year
GPA- 3.8 unweighted, decently rigorous courses (but none of the self-study APs and community college courses that many of my classmates have)
ECs- bad. Basically only do contest math, which I did poorly on and had no major accomplishments (AIME but no USAMO, very active and participated in a bunch of stuff throughout the years but never really won much). Spent summers at AwesomeMath summer camp.
Essays- mehhhhhh
Interviews- bad
Asian male, California Bay Area
Highly competitive public school, class size ~600
Applied mostly for math departments Probably looking to go to Cal, as CMU is twice as expensive. No real surprises IMO, though I wasn't aware that it was possible to get deferred admission for Cal. + Show Spoiler [qq rant] + Spent most of high school derping, doing nothing, and wanting to get good at math + videogames and in the end doing neither. I was definitely capable of doing a lot better, but I'm bad at life. Leaving high school, I feel that I've learned very little, accomplished very little, and haven't learned how to apply myself. I'm scared that maybe I'll never stop being a scrub and that I'll never become actually good at anything. Hopefully I'll learn and gain a lot from college, even if I'm not going to my dream school (MIT).
Getting into UCB or UCLA is good. The LA Times just came out with an article recently displaying the statistics of applications to of all the UCs. Over 80,000 people applied to UCLA as coming in as freshman (another 20,000 as transfer students), while another 65,000 to UCB. To be on of those, (don't know here just guessing) lets say, your one out of the 7000 people accepted to UCLA, that's pretty damn good.
And regarding your statement "Im bad at life," no your not. You kicked ass at highschool, and kudos for doing so.
Last comment, if you excel in college, who knows, (also depending on what you want to do) you could get into MIT for grad school.
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On March 31 2013 01:42 tozi wrote:just saw this thread. admissions were so hard this year! I got mostly rejections wasn't left with many options but I would REALLY appreciate any information or advice you may have on these schools: Accepted: College of William and Mary Boston University Oberlin Rutgers Ursinus Waitlisted: NYU Stern George Washington
I know a ton about Rutgers University. Shoot me a PM if you have any particular questions about being a Scarlet Knight
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