Worst breakups you had/know/witnessed - Page 16

On February 18 2013 11:33 SamsungStar wrote:


The risks of pregnancy are quite low. You have higher risks of dying while driving to work than you do having a baby. I'd argue going to jail for failing to pay child support and getting anal raped twice a week for 3 years and infected in your ass with STDs is a pretty good parallel to 9 months of pregnancy. I'm tired of brainwashed arguments trying to claim women have it way harder when it comes to birth and child-rearing. It's not a cogent argument. It's an emotional one without much validity. You can't just pull out the big belly card and expect everyone to bow down in shame. Getting pregnant is not some holy grail achievement that should entitle a woman to half her husband's shit and half his future earnings into eternity.

On February 18 2013 11:48 Xiphos wrote:
"The problem is what comes AFTER charisma."

This really goes to how you sell yourself to the girl. Say that if you pulled out your best performance in the earlier stage with the girl. You can absolutely get laid within the first week with her with it but as I said many times in the thread is that you need to act attractive to her at all time w/o showing a single sign of weakness.

Most man would go do ballzy stuff to impress the lady at the beginning such as buying an expansive gifts and/or singing her a song, drawing her portrait, writting poetry/romantic letters. This all show you have great confidence to her and she likes you because of those but once you get into a relationship with her, its a whole another dimensional plays. If you really observe on what a women wants if you ask her "Hey which restaurant would you prefer? What kind of music do you like?" Her answer would usually be "I'm not sure.", "Oh any kind would be fine.". When she says those things that means she WANTS a man to make those decisions for her. They always want to be guided by a person of power.

What this infers is that after the spark that you manage to conjured up with splints, the decision making skills of your determines whether she will stick with you or not. Not saying that you need to keep her on a leash or anything because she will test out your dominance throughout the relation. By this factor, it really answers all question of when she wants you to open up, it really is a test for you to stay in control. But then again you need to look for specific patterns in your conversations. If she randomly goes up and bring up the topic that means she is testing you but however if thing starts to gradually develops to that point and she says it with genuineness, you probably need to comfort her on that.

Unfortunately it is usually man who cracks under those tests fail to truly please his ladyfriend. And of course over the lone term, this whole facade that you are keeping on gets harder and harder to keep up as your spirits and ressources gets drained up by her.

TLDR: Keep in mind the rule that the "best cards are the ones that you haven't played yet". So don't give her your best performance at contact but give yourselves time to accumulate more skills and banter for the sake that she won't cheat on you.

On February 18 2013 11:42 Salazarz wrote:


How the fuck is saying that a woman invests more into giving birth than a man does a 'brainwashed emotional argument'? No one is saying people should bow down before every big belly in shame, but it's pretty hilarious how you are completely oblivious to the physiological differences between the genders.

Have to say, your attempts to justify your sourness are more sad than most of the break up stories in this thread, lol.

On February 18 2013 11:41 Kukaracha wrote:

Well, it's just 9 months of vomiting, crying, hormonal hyperactivity, nausea, physical alteration, etc. Getting your belly ripped open or your vagina penetrated by someting the size of a football. Did you know that women bleed for a whole month afterwards? That they become incontinent? That their body remains scarred for life?

I mean, the gender war seems even more pointless when you point out the difficulties that both men and women go through. But you could at least recognized that giving birth - after spending roughly a quarter of your life bleeding - is a pretty rough thing.

On February 18 2013 12:01 SamsungStar wrote:


It is definitely rough, but so is going to jail when you fall behind on child support. My whole problem with the huge bias towards women in terms of child custody and support is that if you go through the actual process of conceiving, gestating, delivering, and then raising a child, the man actually has very little choice in the matter.

At conception, man and woman are equally responsible. Man wants to have unprotected sex, woman mutually agrees. So there we have a 1:1 choice in proceeding.

Once the woman is pregnant, the man loses all choice in further development. Only the woman gets any say in whether or not she wants to have the baby. The guy can say no all he wants, he can't force her to get an abortion. 1:2 in choice to proceed.

Upon successful delivery of the baby, the man has no power to give the baby up for adoption. If the woman wants to keep it, that's her prerogative. 1:3.

In raising the child and custody, if it goes to arbitration, chances are vastly in favor of the woman keeping custody with man only given visitation rights, weekends etc. Child support's sum is based on man's income. He has very little choice in the matter beyond spending heaps of money on a lawyer and a possible prenuptial which for most middle class Americans is highly unrealistic. 1:4.

So, in the end, what do we really have? A man making a choice in a moment of passion and then being saddled with it for the rest of his life with no real ability to choose anything after that exact moment, while the woman after the exact moment of conception is pretty much able to call all the shots. That is how the US legal system works when it comes to child custody and support.

On February 18 2013 12:07 iamahydralisk wrote:
My last relationship ended pretty badly. Things were pretty rocky and I just had that "feeling" that something was wrong... but it was my first serious relationship, so I was blinded by a lot of things and fought too much to hold onto what I had even though, in hindsight, it wasn't a good relationship at all. I wish I'd listened to my instincts... but anyway, like I said, things were rocky but I was still trying to make it work. Then, one day, just out of the fucking blue, my girlfriend TEXTS me and tells me she's been cheating on me with some fucking no-life from her podunk hometown (her hometown was small and about two hours away. she'd been going there on weekends to party without me. that should've been the first giant warning sign but as I've already said, I was pretty blind because it was my first real relationship). Then I called her and she told me it was over. All of this happened while I was on break at work, by the way. And I work in retail, so I was dealing with people all day. She didn't even have the common courtesy to wait until I wasn't at work, or actually see me in person. I had six hours left on my shift, but I was so devastated that I ended up going to my manager's office in tears and they let me go early.

After that, we did this weird friends with benefits thing for about a month and ex-gf went back and forth between wanting me back and wanting nothing to do with me. At first, it seemed random, but then I realized that every time she was getting any attention from someone else, she all of a sudden didn't want me around anymore. When that happened, I matter-of-factly told her that I wouldn't be her backup and I removed her from my life after that day (with the exception of getting my stuff a while later).

TLDR, dated a girl who cheated on me, didn't ever actually let me know what was going on in her life, and broke up with me at about the worst possible time. That relationship fucked me up in a lot of ways and even though it's been almost a year, I still have some wounds from it. I'm in a new relationship but I'm having a harder time trusting this time around because last time, I put all of my trust and heart into it and got stomped on, basically. I have to say, though, that even though the relationship messed me up really badly and I was distraught about it ending when it happened, I can look back now and say I'm glad it ended. I was blinded by love before, but now, I can see that my ex was honestly stupid as fuck and we wouldn't have worked out in the long run. You couldn't have an intelligent conversation with her (she'd just parrot things back because she either didn't understand or didn't care) and all of our interactions were pretty vapid and shallow. Oh, and then there was the part where I'm an atheist and she was a devout Mormon.

On February 18 2013 11:59 SamsungStar wrote:


I agree with what you're saying. I would also say that this just highlights how ludicrous female expectations are when a relationship, ideally speaking, should be a 50/50 partnership of mutual respect, support, and attraction. What you've described is nigh on parasitic and inhumane. A man should ALWAYS be at the top of his game, can't fail, flawless, blow her socks off, or else she'll take off for the next guy who's puffing out his chest and playing his best hand at the start to get her into bed. What in the hell happened to "stand by your man"? What happened to in sickness and in health? My god. I guess every time I roll over in bed and my gf's having a bad hair day, I should run out and fuck her hot friend. Or I should sleep with the girl working at the local starbucks when my gf's on her period. And she should be okay with this and understand. Because that's how the game is played.

On February 18 2013 12:15 PSdualwielder wrote:


Just wondering, where's the part when the man wants to be a complete jerk and leaves the woman and the child?

On February 18 2013 12:16 Xiphos wrote:


Yes, it is hard but it is hard to be man. The expectation for us is very high but it is also up to us to have high expectation for her in terms of looks. You have to constantly criticize her looks so that it is fair exchange. You have to say "Oh, I don't like this outfit on you, how about you try that one with the plaid patterns?".

I personally think that this is a fairly even exchange between the two genders. But we do live in an American society where women not only want you to be this and that but also have outstanding physiques. Let me say this, ever since our primitive era, we were suppose to have a great strength, speed in order to survive against the savages but we evolved our intellect so that you no longer need such feats, that's why you see skinny guys/300 pounders getting the pussies they want because of their monetary prowess.

But in an feminism society, the playing field have been blown off much more flat. Feminism means gender equality. While she request you to have the wealth necessary but also the raw beast body of yours then you should also post up the requirement for her to have a great job and good personality because let's face it, we'd fuck anyone with a spanking curve.

So we notice that men need to be a superhero for women in order to be attracted. To maintain the gender balance, you need to bring not ONLY her outer physical flaws but also her personality, talents, and mannerism. This way it become a two way street where both of you guys keep a look for each other and simultaneously ameliorate one's flaws so that you two would become your own perfect version of yourselves.

Think of it as this way, she will be your Lady MacBeth and you'd have to be her Stanley Kowalski. It will be a constant struggle between the couple.

On February 18 2013 12:35 fight_or_flight wrote:
It seems like potentially the majority of these are occurring as a direct result of a girl's female friends.

On February 18 2013 12:41 FeUerFlieGe wrote:


This is why you gotta make good friends with the female friends. They need to be on your side, and keep her in line.

On February 18 2013 12:15 PSdualwielder wrote:


Just wondering, where's the part when the man wants to be a complete jerk and leaves the woman and the child?

On February 18 2013 12:52 tokicheese wrote:

Sex doesn't=Consent to a child...

I know a girl who poked holes in a condom to get knocked up. Even being safe wont be enough sometimes...

On February 18 2013 12:42 Xiphos wrote:
Again I wouldn't really worry about it. You seem like a really intuitive person to realize this (while ofc many are stuck between 500 feets of crap and a hard place). So I'm fully certain that you wouldn't put a ring to it but then lol you can also plays it differently against the standard. You can instead be with her a for a long while being handsome, muscular, wealthy, charismatic, and humorous but not propose her. She'll go crazy over it and she'll probably want to propose to you herself. Then you confront her about it and mention stuff about "prenup"(sp?) if she doesn't agree with that, then go screw because she wasn't after YOU but after you cash and that doesn't make a good wife anyways and if she does, then marry her.

Prenup solves pretty much everything but however you are suppose to make dues for your child because now that you are financially secured about things but she still went through hard times to get your kid(s) out so paying child support is fine honestly (if you can get it to 50/50, then kudos for you but I personally would want him/her to be 100% on my side in time of trouble as I want to be their favorite parent of the two). However with prenup prepared, you won't pay alimony for her and that's pretty much fair.

Colorado
Colorado may be a beautiful place to live, but it’s a terrible place to get a divorce if you’re the higher earner in a long-term marriage. In fact, it may be the worst state. Colorado has a "temporary" maintenance formula of 40% of the higher income minus 50% of the lower income that is often just carried over into the permanent award, regardless of the lower-earning spouse's ability to support themselves or the property division. For example, Dick earns $3,500 per month, and Jane earns $1,500 per month. Dick's “temporary” payment will be $650 ($1,400 - $750) per month. Here’s the kicker though: If you have been married longer than 20 years, you will be ordered lifetime alimony if you go to the judge. The property split will be "equitable," which basically means you will be at the whim of the judge.

New York
Of all the states you do not want to be getting a divorce in, it has to be the Empire State. The current laws do not allow no-fault divorce, so litigants can end up spending thousands of dollars in legal fees, and devote significant time to airing their painful and highly personal details to dissolve the marriage. It is also an outrageous use of judicial resources, especially in these tough financial times.

Nevada
Legalized gambling and legalized prostitution -- add the best state to get a quickie divorce and that truly makes Nevada a trifecta. It should be no surprise that Nevada has the highest divorce rate of any state, with a whopping 14% of the population having been through one. If you establish residency for six weeks, you may take advantage of the quick divorce laws. The six-week residency rule is the shortest of any state, and after establishing residency you can get an uncontested divorce in as little as 48 hours. As a no-fault state, you do not need grounds for divorce like some other states. Nevada is also a community property state, so any assets acquired during the marriage are split 50-50. There is also a formula for child support that reduces litigation and uncertainty.