Teamliquid's Favorite Video Game - Page 6

On December 19 2012 05:36 nttea wrote:

Skyrim is an infinitely better game than Oblivion Morrowind was broken as fuck even though i enjoyed playing it more than skyrim it doesn't feel weird that you could have a discussion about it. As for right now when i check poll morrowind and skyrim are very even so i don't know what the fuzz is about ^_^

On December 19 2012 05:23 Cheno wrote:


I feel like there's a general hate against the big and new titles that are coming out... Is it just me or?

On December 19 2012 05:11 Hier wrote:

I noticed instalments from a lot of game series are missing, seemingly at random.

On December 19 2012 06:38 Shai wrote:
I would never vote for Smash Bros 1. I MIGHT vote for Smash Bros 3. So having only 1 and 2 on there seems unfortunate.

EDIT: Wow. I am a HUGE MGS fanatic, and MGS2 is not on the vote. It is hands down the best, and I'm not alone in that opinion.

On December 19 2012 06:11 Taekwon wrote:


Before I answer that, you need to recognize that there is a flaw with the general framework of these types of, loosely stated, statistics. That error would be due to a fundamental, yet slightly Cartesian principle.

When you or a community care enough to start overarching "Best Game in [X Genre]" polls, you'd assume that the opinions would involve a myriad of thought-out and analytic votes. As someone else mentioned though, that is a quixotic notion "empirically" proven by the fact that these types of threads end up turn into a pathos infested popularity contest. There is no incentive to do otherwise.

So the answer: the "hate against newer games" stems from the idea that just as in any other form of art (novella, film, art, literature, and music) there are generational gaps that exist in between successive decades of incredible gaming experiences. However, the difference is that (assuming we call games a form of art, which I am obliquely tending to do so) the history of gaming has an unprecedented rate of growth. The difference between an 1972 Pong game and a 1990s Pokemon game is staggering, and a 2000 game vs 2010 more still.

These salient differences over time simmer and solder out into two very broad different groups of gamers. Classic and new gens. These are not cemented, rule of thumb - but your post begs the question that the trend is clearly there.

And it's totally understandable: newer gamers don't have to, in fact perhaps disinclined to play older games since the antiquated graphics, chip-tunes, and gameplay are a turnoff to their newer toys (hint of my rhetorical disdain?). Why naturally default to a clearly mechanically inferior experience of Earthbound when there's of a fancy, garish Skyrim waiting with 1900 x 1200 resolution on my moniter?

So. these newer gamers spout their unfailing loyalty for these newer games when they've never played before (keep in mind, I did not say this was an absolute rule as that is obviously false - me already being an example while I write this).
Thus you see, oh my, "heated" arguments between people who've posted things without thinking them through. I really do not see the reason for giving an example: a quick google search of "Top 10 Videogames" of anything should do the talking.

This, in turn ends up turning the entire event in question into the aforementioned popularity contest.
"But isn't that inevitable?" Of course, but it defeats the purpose if you've never played any of the other games just like another art's polling would be if you said The Fountainhead was the most influential work of literature of the 20th Century when you've never read Ulysses.

It's really quite simple. Since we compose of something we affectionately call the internet, we are often times to crass and boorish to express these different epochs and tastes in a equally fashionable manner.

"Does playing a newer game automatically discount me as some spontaneously supercilious loser?"

Of course not, or else the different demographic wouldn't exist in the first place. The entire glob of gamers with historical decency would be automatically subsumed and cease to exist with the times, leading into an Ozymandias effect.

"Does that mean I HAVE to play older games?"

Well obviously no, but I'd argue if you want to have a deeper appreciation of gaming, then most definitely.
Personally, it still irks me that I have friends who call themselves judicious defenders of gaming culture when all they do is play Call of Duty all day. I have MULTIPLE friends in college who have never played Ocarina of Time for fuck's sake...

On December 19 2012 06:45 Adreme wrote:


I would say maybe for the first hour it was. Then they subbed out the good lead for a whiny annoying whipped idiot who even making him a cyborg ninja in the 4th game couldnt make interesting.

On December 19 2012 06:58 tsuxiit wrote:
Surprised Melee is considered so far superior to SSB64 by TL. Smash 64 all the way, yo.

On December 19 2012 07:03 Shebuha wrote:
Dude, just reading through the polls made me SO EXCITED. I want to go back and play Kirby's Dreamland, hit up Super Mario World and practice my ***ing wave dashing in melee.

I absolutely cannot decide between Half Life and Half Life 2. Half Life has some kinda magic, but Half Life 2 is beautiful. I remember when it came out I was blown away at the realness of the water, and running into G-Man again. So sweet.

On December 19 2012 07:06 dUTtrOACh wrote:


I was stuck on that for a while, too. It's one of those where picking the older one puts Half-Life at a disadvantage against newer games, which Half-Life 2 would just blow out of the water. I want to see Perfect Dark going deep - Goldeneye hipster votes will probably beat out PD, though.