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Hey guys,
So as some of you may know i follow the "hacking" scene quite a LOT & when i saw this literally MINUTES ago by Cyber War News, my face was like this -
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"Game Over" aka @ThisIsGameOver (their twitter name)
Hacked Israel, Law Enforcement Credit Cards, AMD Director, Porn Accounts, Vampire.net (because they dislike Twilight) and More today, in a spree that has left my friends who work for various Cyber Security firms in a state of Shock...
If you don't want to continue reading, they did a full release on PasteBin:
http://pastebin.com/aG40rRWe
Ok, so i think yesterday i reported on this Group hacking 20,000+ Minecraft accounts and releasing them.. So i decided to follow them on Twitter & see what other Shannigans they'd pull or if it was just a 1 trick pony..
First they decided to go after 2,500+ Porn Accounts (which as a reply came in, reminded me of the LulzSec Porn accounts leak, though not as big)
Then they decided to "Celebrate Twilights Launch" by Hacking into Vampire.net -
And The Federal Business Development Director for AMD got Hacked, with his Email & PayPal being Hacking into, as well as his Login/Password being Leaked -
And DucatIndia, a Firm teaching Coding and General Web Tools got Hacked with Over 900 users & passwords being leaked:
Then MyWoWArmory (An Anonymous WoW Armory Tool) got Hacked and Released -
Then the Israeli Mailing List for all their Government Supporters got Leaked -
And for their Scariest & Final release (In my opinion) they released over 160 Law Enforcement Credit Card Details from EnTrustAmerica (bit of a ironic name with "Trust" and all) got Leaked -
They seem to be a LulzSec-esc group but don't have ANY Sympathy as stated by their previous tweets, that i'm not to sure i can repeat as i'm not sure if swearing is banned on TL or not..
Just thought i'd inform everyone just encase you use any of these services or know anyone that does...
Thanks & Stay Safe
- Titanium
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These people are trash. No better than common vandals.
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On November 18 2012 16:24 WTFZerg wrote:
These people are trash. No better than common vandals.
to be honest i would agree with you but for these 2 reasons -
Vandals tend to not be as clever as these people
Vandals don't cause MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF DAMAGE
xD
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On November 18 2012 16:25 TitaniumDesigns wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2012 16:24 WTFZerg wrote:
These people are trash. No better than common vandals. to be honest i would agree with you but for these 2 reasons - Vandals tend to not be as clever as these people Vandals don't cause MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF DAMAGExD
They most definitely do, easily.
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As terrible as this is, it seems pretty impressive (granted I know nothing about hacking or computer programming).
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Dude I think you take what you read on the internet way too seriously.
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On November 18 2012 16:31 CecilSunkure wrote:
Dude I think you take what you read on the internet way too seriously.
Dude, it's really not fun when you go to buy something from the shop & find your credit card declined due to this kind of shit :/
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Bangbros!!!
But didn't they completely clean out the Bank of Jerusalem or something?
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On November 18 2012 16:33 TitaniumDesigns wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2012 16:31 CecilSunkure wrote:
Dude I think you take what you read on the internet way too seriously. Dude, it's really not fun when you go to buy something from the shop & find your credit card declined due to this kind of shit :/
Really? You've had this happen to you? I'd advocate you go experience things firsthand more.
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On November 18 2012 16:34 DigiGnar wrote:
Bangbros!!!
But didn't they completely clean out the Bank of Jerusalem or something?
Even if they did, there are backups of backups of backups. I actually just started working for a bank and the level of redundancy is pretty impressive.
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On November 18 2012 16:35 WTFZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2012 16:34 DigiGnar wrote:
Bangbros!!!
But didn't they completely clean out the Bank of Jerusalem or something? Even if they did, there are backups of backups of backups. I actually just started working for a bank and the level of redundancy is pretty impressive.
oh yeh ofcourse, it's unprecedented that they but a LOT of effort in..
but for examples -
Citibank has been hacked 3 times
HSBC got all their online services DDoS's by Anonymous
RBS got all their online services broken into & had to close them for a number of days including ATMs to investigate...
and that's but to mention a few..
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On November 18 2012 16:34 CecilSunkure wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2012 16:33 TitaniumDesigns wrote:On November 18 2012 16:31 CecilSunkure wrote:
Dude I think you take what you read on the internet way too seriously. Dude, it's really not fun when you go to buy something from the shop & find your credit card declined due to this kind of shit :/ Really? You've had this happen to you? I'd advocate you go experience things firsthand more.
yeh it happened to me a few months back.. that's when i started to become interested in this stuff so i can try & secure myself online..
Took me 4 days to get my money back but still 4 days without money & a frozen account is painful :/
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On November 18 2012 16:34 CecilSunkure wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2012 16:33 TitaniumDesigns wrote:On November 18 2012 16:31 CecilSunkure wrote:
Dude I think you take what you read on the internet way too seriously. Dude, it's really not fun when you go to buy something from the shop & find your credit card declined due to this kind of shit :/ Really? You've had this happen to you? I'd advocate you go experience things firsthand more.
Granted, your bank accounts are probably safe, as long as you have your card changed when data are stolen. But that really is small hat.
Consider this: You are an Israeli government supporter on that mailing list that got leaked, where almost all of the e-mails contain your full name. Do you realise what this means? This is essentially a list of targets for some people out there. Suddenly, you could be hunted, and even though the mail server is changed and the e-mails transfered, you're very own government server has been compromised. Israel is a country a lot of people would like to see nuked. Would you really want your name out there with the knowledge that some unknown people just waltzed in and took it?
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I can only say thanks for two next weeks of non-stop fapping.
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On November 18 2012 16:43 TitaniumDesigns wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2012 16:34 CecilSunkure wrote:On November 18 2012 16:33 TitaniumDesigns wrote:On November 18 2012 16:31 CecilSunkure wrote:
Dude I think you take what you read on the internet way too seriously. Dude, it's really not fun when you go to buy something from the shop & find your credit card declined due to this kind of shit :/ Really? You've had this happen to you? I'd advocate you go experience things firsthand more. yeh it happened to me a few months back.. that's when i started to become interested in this stuff so i can try & secure myself online.. Took me 4 days to get my money back but still 4 days without money & a frozen account is painful :/
Ah I see... Sorry to hear 
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This is disgusting, who the hell would hack law enforcement credit cards and post it up for everyone to see?
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On November 18 2012 16:53 publicenemies wrote:
This is disgusting, who the hell would hack law enforcement credit cards and post it up for everyone to see?
erm... i don't know if you've been to the real world lately but a LOT of people dislike law enforcement xD
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On November 18 2012 16:34 CecilSunkure wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2012 16:33 TitaniumDesigns wrote:On November 18 2012 16:31 CecilSunkure wrote:
Dude I think you take what you read on the internet way too seriously. Dude, it's really not fun when you go to buy something from the shop & find your credit card declined due to this kind of shit :/ Really? You've had this happen to you? I'd advocate you go experience things firsthand more.
It's not that uncommon. Someone in Brazil got my AMEX card info. Luckily, AMEX contacted me within 2 hours asking if I was on vacation in Brazil^^.
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lolol at the law enforcement credit cards, the u.s wastes tens or hundreds of millions of dollars equipping local (including small town) police with military equipment with absolutely no reason. i rather see hackers give it to the public than see it wasted by the infinitely incompetent and inefficient gov't
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On November 18 2012 16:25 TitaniumDesigns wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2012 16:24 WTFZerg wrote:
These people are trash. No better than common vandals. to be honest i would agree with you but for these 2 reasons - Vandals tend to not be as clever as these people Vandals don't cause MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF DAMAGE xD
Actually, they do more damage. Read up on who Vandals are. :D
If they were simple "vandals", they'd keep it for themselves. This is more for the "fame" and "lulz".
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On November 18 2012 17:19 quirinus wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2012 16:25 TitaniumDesigns wrote:On November 18 2012 16:24 WTFZerg wrote:
These people are trash. No better than common vandals. to be honest i would agree with you but for these 2 reasons - Vandals tend to not be as clever as these people Vandals don't cause MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF DAMAGE xD Actually, they do more damage. Read up on who Vandals are. :D If they were simple "vandals", they'd keep it for themselves. This is more for the "fame" and "lulz".
erm... cyber security is the 2nd biggest national threat in the US to terrorism and 1st in the UK..
Vandals defo do not do as much damage 
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Was wondering when the anonymous clones would appear. Every sucessful story gets repeated....
Cyber trash 2.0 IMO. These idiots do nothing for anyone and are no better then a common street thug.
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I don't get it, what's the points of going all out to show the world you're a dumbass?
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I don't see how unknown people hacking unknown sites is worthy a post
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Hacking is wrong. Not threat worthy.
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On November 18 2012 18:25 Yoshi- wrote:
I don't see how unknown people hacking unknown sites is worthy a post
Yeah, I can't see how some unknown people hacking the government mailing list of the State of Israel is worthy of a post either. Seriously, I don't get why vampire.net is being emphasized as much as an Israeli .gov server in the OP. Or even 160 FBI agents' credit card info.
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On November 18 2012 18:33 DerNebel wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2012 18:25 Yoshi- wrote:
I don't see how unknown people hacking unknown sites is worthy a post Yeah, I can't see how some unknown people hacking the government mailing list of the State of Israel is worthy of a post either. Seriously, I don't get why vampire.net is being emphasized as much as an Israeli .gov server in the OP. Or even 160 FBI agents' credit card info.
So they leaked a bunch of emails that absolute nobody cares about and a bunch of credit card credentials that could be made up numbers
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On November 18 2012 16:25 TitaniumDesigns wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2012 16:24 WTFZerg wrote:
These people are trash. No better than common vandals. to be honest i would agree with you but for these 2 reasons - Vandals tend to not be as clever as these people Vandals don't cause MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF DAMAGE xD
SO you think "being clever and causing MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF DAMAGE" is somehow fun? Guess who is going to pay the damage, us regular folk who pay taxes.
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On November 18 2012 18:52 Yoshi- wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2012 18:33 DerNebel wrote:On November 18 2012 18:25 Yoshi- wrote:
I don't see how unknown people hacking unknown sites is worthy a post Yeah, I can't see how some unknown people hacking the government mailing list of the State of Israel is worthy of a post either. Seriously, I don't get why vampire.net is being emphasized as much as an Israeli .gov server in the OP. Or even 160 FBI agents' credit card info. So they leaked a bunch of emails that absolute nobody cares about and a bunch of credit card credentials that could be made up numbers
Hamas absolutely wouldn't find those addresses useful. No fucking way.
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On November 18 2012 18:57 DigiGnar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2012 18:52 Yoshi- wrote:On November 18 2012 18:33 DerNebel wrote:On November 18 2012 18:25 Yoshi- wrote:
I don't see how unknown people hacking unknown sites is worthy a post Yeah, I can't see how some unknown people hacking the government mailing list of the State of Israel is worthy of a post either. Seriously, I don't get why vampire.net is being emphasized as much as an Israeli .gov server in the OP. Or even 160 FBI agents' credit card info. So they leaked a bunch of emails that absolute nobody cares about and a bunch of credit card credentials that could be made up numbers Hamas absolutely wouldn't find those addresses useful. No fucking way.
Oh yea that how they can beat israel, email a tons of emails from random people that may not even be related to the goverment of israel
And it is not like those emails are unknown, you can just google those email and see that they are all publicly avaiable
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On November 18 2012 18:57 DigiGnar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2012 18:52 Yoshi- wrote:On November 18 2012 18:33 DerNebel wrote:On November 18 2012 18:25 Yoshi- wrote:
I don't see how unknown people hacking unknown sites is worthy a post Yeah, I can't see how some unknown people hacking the government mailing list of the State of Israel is worthy of a post either. Seriously, I don't get why vampire.net is being emphasized as much as an Israeli .gov server in the OP. Or even 160 FBI agents' credit card info. So they leaked a bunch of emails that absolute nobody cares about and a bunch of credit card credentials that could be made up numbers Hamas absolutely wouldn't find those addresses useful. No fucking way.
Er my gerd think of all the spam mail or malicious attachments they could send!
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On November 18 2012 19:02 Yoshi- wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2012 18:57 DigiGnar wrote:On November 18 2012 18:52 Yoshi- wrote:On November 18 2012 18:33 DerNebel wrote:On November 18 2012 18:25 Yoshi- wrote:
I don't see how unknown people hacking unknown sites is worthy a post Yeah, I can't see how some unknown people hacking the government mailing list of the State of Israel is worthy of a post either. Seriously, I don't get why vampire.net is being emphasized as much as an Israeli .gov server in the OP. Or even 160 FBI agents' credit card info. So they leaked a bunch of emails that absolute nobody cares about and a bunch of credit card credentials that could be made up numbers Hamas absolutely wouldn't find those addresses useful. No fucking way. Oh yea that how they can beat israel, email a tons of emails from random people that may not even be related to the goverment of israel And it is not like those emails are unknown, you can just google those email and see that they are all publicly avaiable
They can surely beat them with rockets being intercepted by a missile shield. Do you even terrorism?
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This thread has already turned into garbage and it's only page two.
The OP is a half assed attempt at something with content which is actually just some hacker group tweeting. I'm sure we can all appreciate the need to protect our personal information, good talk everyone...
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Better pack it in guys, the internet doesn't exist anymore.
The more you follow stuff like this, the more you realize how unimpressive it really is.
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I'm sorry why am I supposed to give a shit about what soon to be arrested script kiddies do?
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On November 18 2012 19:05 HackBenjamin wrote:
This thread has already turned into garbage and it's only page two.
The OP is a half assed attempt at something with content which is actually just some hacker group tweeting. I'm sure we can all appreciate the need to protect our personal information, good talk everyone...
I don't see why people are such blind idiots.
Releasing police officers credit card info
and releasing a list which could threaten the lives off Israeli supports in Government due to Hamas & anti-Israeli groups finding them VERY interesting..
oh no that's nothing -.-
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Because it's childish antics that teenagers do. I can buy more credit card info and release it. Can I have a thread about me?
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So you hackers are proud, that you damaged so many people,
sorry too sound so negative, but i don´t see the benefit of hacking a vampire website...
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two positive things i see about this thread
1) porn
2) increase security. if web punks can get some damaging information then people should invest in increasing their security, we actually wouldn't know if in the future, hackers couldve bring much more chaos or damage.
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On November 18 2012 16:24 WTFZerg wrote:
These people are trash. No better than common vandals.
I have to agree with this post. These people are trash and only destroy for the rest of us. Im sure theyll understand once the law catch up to them.
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The movie is 5 years old. "If everything is controlled by computers and I control your computers, who controls everything?"
Best Regards, Matthew Farrel
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On November 18 2012 20:18 NotoriousBig wrote:
So you hackers are proud, that you damaged so many people,
sorry too sound so negative, but i don´t see the benefit of hacking a vampire website...
Woah.. i never said i was a hacker & i am not, just because your interested in a topic doesn't mean you are that person.
My Dad likes WW2 and has books but he isn't a Nazi...
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On November 18 2012 20:18 NotoriousBig wrote:
So you hackers are proud, that you damaged so many people,
sorry too sound so negative, but i don´t see the benefit of hacking a vampire website...
There doesn't need to be a benefit. I certainly don't support these hackers but I can see why they do it. They do it for the challenge and for fun. They do it for the same reason someone else plays a video game.
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On November 18 2012 20:18 NotoriousBig wrote:
So you hackers are proud, that you damaged so many people,
sorry too sound so negative, but i don´t see the benefit of hacking a vampire website...
Some men just want to watch the world burn.
There's no understanding why. Maybe some people weren't loved enough as children. Maybe enough bad stuff happened to them that they stopped caring about life. We'll never know. All we can do is watch.
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You do realize they didn't "go after" anything right? They randomly found sites probably vulnerable to the same one thing and thought up a narrative afterwards. The name isn't so much "hacker" as it is "script kiddie".
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On November 18 2012 17:49 TitaniumDesigns wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2012 17:19 quirinus wrote:On November 18 2012 16:25 TitaniumDesigns wrote:On November 18 2012 16:24 WTFZerg wrote:
These people are trash. No better than common vandals. to be honest i would agree with you but for these 2 reasons - Vandals tend to not be as clever as these people Vandals don't cause MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF DAMAGE xD Actually, they do more damage. Read up on who Vandals are. :D If they were simple "vandals", they'd keep it for themselves. This is more for the "fame" and "lulz". erm... cyber security is the 2nd biggest national threat in the US to terrorism and 1st in the UK.. Vandals defo do not do as much damage
He was talking about these Vandals:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vandals
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I just went through the list of porn-related accounts they hacked http://pastebin.com/6VAL7xyD and there are so many websites out there, so much left to discover ....
To infinity and beyond !
EDIT : I wonder if there is a sudden decrease in TL.net traffic.
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On November 18 2012 21:30 Tufas wrote:I just went through the list of porn-related accounts they hacked http://pastebin.com/6VAL7xyD and there are so many websites out there, so much left to discover .... To infinity and beyond ! EDIT : I wonder if there is a sudden decrease in TL.net traffic.
LOL!
I'll give them this...
I like porn.
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Breaking News: The internet is vulnerable!
As stated there was probably some common / simple vulnerability they abused in all cases. Often things that get hacked or when information is leaked you find that they had abysmal precaution (PSN anyone?).
As for the hackers themselves, those people claiming they do it for the fun and the challenge are missing the fact that they released the information publicly, that's pure malice, they are not respectable people in any fashion and probably aren't very sophisticated simply because most intelligent people with skills will be gainfully employed and have a lot to lose, with very few exceptions, Gary McKinnon comes to mind as an exception but his actions were definitely not malicious, he just had Aspergers and wanted to find information so he single handedly hacked into the US Military and NASA because their security 'was crap' in his words.
Which US president left launch codes in his jacket pocket when he sent it to the cleaners again?
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On November 18 2012 22:25 adwodon wrote:
Breaking News: The internet is vulnerable!
As stated there was probably some common / simple vulnerability they abused in all cases. Often things that get hacked or when information is leaked you find that they had abysmal precaution (PSN anyone?).
As for the hackers themselves, those people claiming they do it for the fun and the challenge are missing the fact that they released the information publicly, that's pure malice, they are not respectable people in any fashion and probably aren't very sophisticated simply because most intelligent people with skills will be gainfully employed and have a lot to lose, with very few exceptions, Gary McKinnon comes to mind as an exception but his actions were definitely not malicious, he just had Aspergers and wanted to find information so he single handedly hacked into the US Military and NASA because their security 'was crap' in his words.
Which US president left launch codes in his jacket pocket when he sent it to the cleaners again?
Jimmy Carter.
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If it hurts Israel, it's okay with me these days.
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I think we need to be training hackers at schools and colleges. We need to be studying these kind of infrastructures, both to make certain things more safe but also because it's the future of... well everything? If we just ignore that it's there we're at a huge disadvantage to anyone who doesn't (I vaguely remember reading about Chinese state hackers? Might have made it up...).
I also feel it'll become the only method of resistance and protest in the not too distant future...
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Loled at stealing porn accounts, is that even considered hacking?...
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On November 18 2012 22:25 adwodon wrote:
Breaking News: The internet is vulnerable!
As stated there was probably some common / simple vulnerability they abused in all cases. Often things that get hacked or when information is leaked you find that they had abysmal precaution (PSN anyone?).
As for the hackers themselves, those people claiming they do it for the fun and the challenge are missing the fact that they released the information publicly, that's pure malice, they are not respectable people in any fashion and probably aren't very sophisticated simply because most intelligent people with skills will be gainfully employed and have a lot to lose, with very few exceptions, Gary McKinnon comes to mind as an exception but his actions were definitely not malicious, he just had Aspergers and wanted to find information so he single handedly hacked into the US Military and NASA because their security 'was crap' in his words.
Which US president left launch codes in his jacket pocket when he sent it to the cleaners again?
Assuming these guys are in their late teens/early twenties, they might just be the governments cyber security of tomorrow.
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On November 18 2012 23:44 Zoesan wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2012 22:25 adwodon wrote:
Breaking News: The internet is vulnerable!
As stated there was probably some common / simple vulnerability they abused in all cases. Often things that get hacked or when information is leaked you find that they had abysmal precaution (PSN anyone?).
As for the hackers themselves, those people claiming they do it for the fun and the challenge are missing the fact that they released the information publicly, that's pure malice, they are not respectable people in any fashion and probably aren't very sophisticated simply because most intelligent people with skills will be gainfully employed and have a lot to lose, with very few exceptions, Gary McKinnon comes to mind as an exception but his actions were definitely not malicious, he just had Aspergers and wanted to find information so he single handedly hacked into the US Military and NASA because their security 'was crap' in his words.
Which US president left launch codes in his jacket pocket when he sent it to the cleaners again? Assuming these guys are in their late teens/early twenties, they might just be the governments cyber security of tomorrow.
It doesnt exactly work like that anymore. It did 15-20years ago, but not anymore.
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some of the email and passwords here work on the actual email account since people like to use the same password everywhere.
from the email account i was able to see what other websites they were subscribed. i was able to get into quite a few including facebook using the same username and password.
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On November 19 2012 00:54 xaeravoq wrote:
some of the email and passwords here work on the actual email account since people like to use the same password everywhere.
from the email account i was able to see what other websites they were subscribed. i was able to get into quite a few including facebook using the same username and password.
^ So now we have a 1337 hacker here, great.. wtf have i created :/
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he didnt say he was a leet hacker. and if anyones at fault here its you posting and spreading this garbage in the first place.
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On November 19 2012 01:16 Coagulation wrote:
he didnt say he was a leet hacker. and if anyones at fault here its you posting and spreading this garbage in the first place.
it was a JOKE, chill brah... and it's good to spread this info, makes it mean that people affected can sort it out..
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This is an awful, awful thread. It wreaks of 15 year old kid living vicariously through other people's actions.
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On November 18 2012 22:42 Arnstein wrote:
If it hurts Israel, it's okay with me these days.
People like you are disgusting and I'm embarrassed to be a part of this community sometimes.
The sad part is that all it takes for peace to happen over there is for everyone to just stop shooting.
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On November 19 2012 01:32 Kich wrote:
This is an awful, awful thread. It wreaks of 15 year old kid living vicariously through other people's actions.
Yea i have to admit this thread was a brutal read.
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As someone that majors in digital security, these people are sociopathic trash. There is nothing behind it, just an exercise in power. I imagine those hackers think they're somehow relevant just because they can cause some minor damage to some companies.
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On November 18 2012 17:49 TitaniumDesigns wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2012 17:19 quirinus wrote:On November 18 2012 16:25 TitaniumDesigns wrote:On November 18 2012 16:24 WTFZerg wrote:
These people are trash. No better than common vandals. to be honest i would agree with you but for these 2 reasons - Vandals tend to not be as clever as these people Vandals don't cause MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF DAMAGE xD Actually, they do more damage. Read up on who Vandals are. :D If they were simple "vandals", they'd keep it for themselves. This is more for the "fame" and "lulz". erm... cyber security is the 2nd biggest national threat in the US to terrorism and 1st in the UK.. Vandals defo do not do as much damage
You have a very miscontrued preception on vandals, whose costs can vary between 30-250 billion in damages per year depending on your specific definition and if looking at it on a global scale. It might not be as much as the purported cybercrime, which mind you consists predominately of "intellectual property theft" aka pirating, but it's still quite significant. To insinuate it's not even in the millions of dollars... there's individual million dollar vandalism damages REGULARLY occurring.
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On November 19 2012 02:36 HackBenjamin wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2012 22:42 Arnstein wrote:
If it hurts Israel, it's okay with me these days. People like you are disgusting and I'm embarrassed to be a part of this community sometimes. The sad part is that all it takes for peace to happen over there is for everyone to just stop shooting.
Please do not make such simple statements. The conflict is much more complex than that.
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Ready to fap, get me that porn.
In other news, hackers are scum.
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On November 19 2012 02:55 Shiragaku wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2012 02:36 HackBenjamin wrote:On November 18 2012 22:42 Arnstein wrote:
If it hurts Israel, it's okay with me these days. People like you are disgusting and I'm embarrassed to be a part of this community sometimes. The sad part is that all it takes for peace to happen over there is for everyone to just stop shooting. Please do not make such simple statements. The conflict is much more complex than that.
Yes and no. If both sides held to a truce/cease-fire, it would do fucking WONDERS for stability of the region. It's really not a simple statement if you think about it. In any case, this particular discussion belongs in the Israel thread, this thread is for talking about 1337 hackers.
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On November 19 2012 02:36 HackBenjamin wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2012 22:42 Arnstein wrote:
If it hurts Israel, it's okay with me these days. People like you are disgusting and I'm embarrassed to be a part of this community sometimes. The sad part is that all it takes for peace to happen over there is for everyone to just stop shooting.
It would take a lot more than that and guess what? People like that exist everywhere. It's not just the TL forums lol.
Just got to deal with it. ;/
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