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ubergamer15
Profile Joined January 2005
United States645 Posts
March 15 2006 07:23 GMT
#21
As much as I'd like to say that this sounds like bullshit, all I have to go on is a gut instinct and a limited knowledge of astronomy. I can't debase it, but I will say its extremely, extremely unlikely.
An optimist sees the glass half-full. A pessimist sees the glass half-empty. An engineer sees a waste of half a glass.
MeowHissPurr
Profile Joined March 2006
United States55 Posts
March 15 2006 07:24 GMT
#22
WE'RE DOOMED OGM!
jchanhm
Profile Joined November 2005
Canada150 Posts
March 15 2006 07:25 GMT
#23
time to invest in gas companies. those stock prices are going to skyrocket and i'll be rolling in the money =]=]=]
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7286 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-03-15 07:31:20
March 15 2006 07:30 GMT
#24
On March 15 2006 16:17 HungZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2006 14:01 Sadist wrote:
Since when the fuck do black holes pass by shit anyway? if anything black holes make stuff pass by them, as fara s i know , Black holes dont move, they are stationary and just have feeding/non feeding cycles. Typical Internet Hoax shit

try reading the article before you comment on it... it said that these usually form in pairs and the second member of the pair may be coming, with the first being the one that passed in the 20's.


ill state this again, even if its the second one it doesnt matter because.

A) Black holes DO NOT MOVE like an orbit or like a fucking commet or something
B) BLACK HOLES DONT RUN INTO THINGS
C) It makes no sense whichever way to slice it.


not to mention if blackholes moved aimlessly through the universe EVERYTHING Would get destroyed which we know is not the case
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
MindCrusher
Profile Joined September 2005
Romania236 Posts
March 15 2006 07:30 GMT
#25
very few stars form black holes...usually verry large stars (several times greater than our sun). From reading that text I had the a common man read an astronomy book and then wrote the ideas he got from reading the text.
There is no name of the writer. Should i just belive he was a professor for 30 years not even knowing his name? If that theory would have been the result of a real sceintist it would have been signed with his full name not just Billy T.
I will try to be nicer if you try to be smarter!
yare
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
507 Posts
March 15 2006 07:30 GMT
#26
i think it seems if black holes are formed in pairs, with one larger and one smaller , they are locked in a orbit around each other (like pluto and it's moon) but on a much much larger scale. Now the littler of the two blackholes will wobble closer to our side of the galaxy, stretching our solar system a bit.
MindCrusher
Profile Joined September 2005
Romania236 Posts
March 15 2006 07:34 GMT
#27
On March 15 2006 16:30 Sadist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2006 16:17 HungZerg wrote:
On March 15 2006 14:01 Sadist wrote:
Since when the fuck do black holes pass by shit anyway? if anything black holes make stuff pass by them, as fara s i know , Black holes dont move, they are stationary and just have feeding/non feeding cycles. Typical Internet Hoax shit

try reading the article before you comment on it... it said that these usually form in pairs and the second member of the pair may be coming, with the first being the one that passed in the 20's.


ill state this again, even if its the second one it doesnt matter because.

A) Black holes DO NOT MOVE like an orbit or like a fucking commet or something
B) BLACK HOLES DONT RUN INTO THINGS
C) It makes no sense whichever way to slice it.


Everything moves in the universe. Depends on the point you chose as refrence. Our galaxy moves in respect to other galaxyes. Our sun moves in respect with the center of the galaxy. Every star moves in respect to the other celestial bodies. Black holes come from stars (very few star generate black holes) so they move to.
That dosen;t mean the whole theory there is more than a lot of bullshit.
I will try to be nicer if you try to be smarter!
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7286 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-03-15 07:40:46
March 15 2006 07:35 GMT
#28
On March 15 2006 16:30 yare wrote:
i think it seems if black holes are formed in pairs, with one larger and one smaller , they are locked in a orbit around each other (like pluto and it's moon) but on a much much larger scale. Now the littler of the two blackholes will wobble closer to our side of the galaxy, stretching our solar system a bit.


This theory seems like bullshit to me how can a black hole orbit around ANYTHING? it makes no sense at all


ive heard of things called SUPER MASSIVE BLack holes at the centers of galaxies which is the reason some believe galaxies move but i would think one of the black holes woul dhave to be ASTRONIMICALLY bigger than the other to make it orbit around another, and ive never heard of black holes forming in pairs ever.

Im done anyway because apparently my choice of language isnt exactly the best because people keep trying to pick it apart and turn it into different meanings etc. Anyway this isnt going to happen, internet bullshit like this is gay end of story.
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
MindCrusher
Profile Joined September 2005
Romania236 Posts
March 15 2006 07:41 GMT
#29
On March 15 2006 16:30 yare wrote:
i think it seems if black holes are formed in pairs, with one larger and one smaller , they are locked in a orbit around each other (like pluto and it's moon) but on a much much larger scale. Now the littler of the two blackholes will wobble closer to our side of the galaxy, stretching our solar system a bit.

Black holes don;'t always (as it is written in the book) form in pairs. This actualy happens verry rare.
Black holes come from very large stars that inplode. Stars don't form in pairs (does our Sun have a pair) the nearest star is 4 light years away. There are verry few stars that form in pairs and there are verry few stars that become black holes.....so the probability to have a pair of black holes is slimer than having a pair of stars.
Usually in a pair of stars one is much greater than the other. So, upon the transformation of one into a black hole the small one is verry likely to crash into the newly formed black hole.
I will try to be nicer if you try to be smarter!
tehsnow
Profile Joined June 2005
Canada296 Posts
March 15 2006 07:51 GMT
#30
Total crap. As Sadist said, black holes can't orbit around anything. This is ridiculous. Also, distances in space are huge, closest star at 1000 lightyears if I'm right? If anything that big was coming on us, we would have found out before it's in our face -_-
Tehre si no spoone
CrownRoyal
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Vatican City State1872 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-03-15 07:56:50
March 15 2006 07:56 GMT
#31
On March 15 2006 16:51 tehsnow wrote:
Total crap. As Sadist said, black holes can't orbit around anything. This is ridiculous. Also, distances in space are huge, closest star at 1000 lightyears if I'm right? If anything that big was coming on us, we would have found out before it's in our face -_-

sirius, the closest star is 4 light years away.

edit - besides the sun that is.
You're pretty when I'm drunk.
Servolisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States5241 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-03-15 08:28:30
March 15 2006 08:24 GMT
#32
Not being able to understand that black holes have pairs is not the fault of the article or theory here. If you won't bother to check your facts or read the article your clearly not interested so don't pollute the thread.
wtf was that signature
Servolisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States5241 Posts
March 15 2006 08:29 GMT
#33
On March 15 2006 16:51 tehsnow wrote:
Total crap. As Sadist said, black holes can't orbit around anything. This is ridiculous. Also, distances in space are huge, closest star at 1000 lightyears if I'm right? If anything that big was coming on us, we would have found out before it's in our face -_-


read first... even in what I posted, I mentioned black holes are undetectable by most methods.
wtf was that signature
Chris.K
Profile Joined January 2006
United States147 Posts
March 15 2006 08:33 GMT
#34
On March 15 2006 16:25 jchanhm wrote:
time to invest in gas companies. those stock prices are going to skyrocket and i'll be rolling in the money =]=]=]


sounds like an expensive waste of money.. everyone knows our gas is running out ~~
Servolisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States5241 Posts
March 15 2006 08:34 GMT
#35
On March 15 2006 14:52 LetMeBeWithYou wrote:
"darkvisitor.com"

Enough said


is there a competition for most useless post in this thread?
wtf was that signature
Servolisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States5241 Posts
March 15 2006 08:36 GMT
#36
On March 15 2006 15:47 MindCrusher wrote:
what;s the conection betwenn the thread name and the content of the first post?


What is it about this that is so hard... There is even a big picture on the link. Numerous mentions of orbit. For some reason people think this is an apocalypse thread, which is incredible. It does presume some serious consequences, but not nearly some doomsday.
wtf was that signature
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-03-15 09:00:52
March 15 2006 08:59 GMT
#37
On March 15 2006 13:27 Servolisk wrote:
Apparently when these black holes were formed, they formed in pairs. The author thinks the smaller of the pair (at a size of 2.2 solar masses, I'm guessing that's big ) will pass by in 2007-2008 and alter Earth's orbit.


In order for a black hole to form from gravitational collapse, the start must be at the very least 3 solar masses. In order for a smaller black hole to form, it would need to be put under tremendous pressure from elsewhere.

And Sadist is just plain wrong. Cygnus X-1 is a known binary system containing a black hole and a blue supergiant.
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7286 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-03-15 09:31:27
March 15 2006 09:30 GMT
#38
ok i said i wouldnt post again but whatever.

Mindcrime i dont know what you are talking about when you say im wrong (im not saying im not wrong about something i just dont know what topic you are saying im wrong about)

I did a little bit of reading and frmo what i understand, super massive blackholes do not cause galaxies to spin, this is probably still up for debate since i had heard different theories on the history channel a few months ago. Anyway, I still havent found anythingf that says black holes actually can ORBIT other things. I know things can Orbit AROUND black holes and not get sucked in but i am not sure if a black hole can actually orbit something bigger unless it is actually another black hole in which I GUESS This guys theory could be right even though it sounds like bullshit because youd be seeing it on the news and such. Basically the entire plausability of this is based on whether blackholes themselves can actually orbit . If they can, i guess this is possible yet extremely extremely unlikely, if they cant i dont see how we could just "run" into one seeing as far as i know they do not move freely throughout the universe at a faster rate than anything else moving from the "center" Without them basically moving in a straight line from the center i dont see how we could just run into one that isnt orbiting, it doesnt really make sense.

oh and about Cygnus-X, i obviously knew that galaxies had black holes in them and i Looked up cygnus-x as for an example. From what the pictures and the wording sounding like, the Star is having some of its matter eaten by the black hole. but it does not say anywhere that i have found that the black hole is actually orbiting the star.
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
March 15 2006 09:37 GMT
#39
On March 15 2006 18:30 Sadist wrote:

Mindcrime i dont know what you are talking about when you say im wrong (im not saying im not wrong about something i just dont know what topic you are saying im wrong about)


You were wrong when you said that black holes never orbit anything. Cygnus X-1 is a binary system composed of a black hole and a blue supergiant. Meaning that the two spin around each other.
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
pansy
Profile Joined November 2005
United States309 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-03-15 09:52:33
March 15 2006 09:51 GMT
#40
Here's a review. A review on Amazon gives the same opinion.

edit: Amazon gets auto-linked? forum hacks!
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