Dying woman humiliated in TSA pat-down - Page 8

On October 11 2012 11:35 Blazinghand wrote:


"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."

These words by Benjamin Franklin seem highly relevant.

On October 11 2012 11:07 Voltaire wrote:


And who is going to force the agents to handle situations like this as sympathetic human beings?

Some sort of enforcement is required. That's where the judicial system comes in.

On October 11 2012 11:55 MarinePrince wrote:
And never in history has a damn major real plane boarding with a bomb or otherwise ever occurred. We're turning over our civil rights for a completely fictional danger that only serves to frighted the general public into giving up their rights for alleged security. Pah... it's sickening.

On October 11 2012 11:55 MarinePrince wrote:
And never in history has a damn major real plane boarding with a bomb or otherwise ever occurred. We're turning over our civil rights for a completely fictional danger that only serves to frighted the general public into giving up their rights for alleged security. Pah... it's sickening.

On October 11 2012 11:44 neggro wrote:

These are serious accusations. Any proof on this?

The Transportation Security Administration is rolling out expedited screening at big airports called "Precheck." It has special lanes for background-checked travelers, who can keep their shoes, belt and jacket on, leave laptops and liquids in carry-on bags and walk through a metal detector rather than a full-body scan. The process, now at two airlines and nine airports, is much like how screenings worked before the Sept. 11 attacks.

On October 11 2012 11:46 ClanRH.TV wrote:


Key word: "Temporary." This situation seems like more of a permanent increase in safety.

On October 10 2012 17:40 Emporio wrote:


So this is something I've always wondered. In the US, there is a constant state of low fear that terrorists or even just some crazy dude will come and blow up a plane or something, which is supposed to be the justification for the TSA, Patriot Act, and all that. Obviously, much of this is fabricated by politicians as a means of maintaining the status quo and their incumbency by using fear as a voter motivation, and allowing them to beef up security measures to pretend like they are doing something important. I recognize that in general, Americans probably are more afraid of potential attacks than the actual threat would deserve.


However, I do feel like because it is the US, and because of its image and stature in the world, it [i]is[i] more likely to attacked by some fanatical individual or group than, say, the Czech Republic. I think it is not unreasonable or arrogant to put forth the claim that America probably faces a larger risk of potential attack than other Western countries. However, I'm just not sure how much of a legitimate threat there is, and whether the risk of an attack is great enough to warrant all the breaches of privacy increased security bring along. If the US were really in as much danger as politicians would like us to believe, then hell, we need even more surveillance of airports and passengers coming into the states. But obviously that isn't the case, so with a lesser degree of threat, there is a lesser degree of security needed. The question in my mind is how much is needed.

On October 11 2012 12:52 neggro wrote:

This is an isolated case and not a blanket systemic failure. It is one or a few men in the TSA who do corrupt practices.
It does not prove anything against the system in general, which to my belief is necessary. There will be a few discords here and there, and we should handle them swiftly and to the full extent of the law. Unless this corrupt practices become epidemic, they should be treated as such.

On October 11 2012 13:17 Marimokkori wrote:


Did you watch the video? 381 officers fired for theft.

On October 10 2012 17:30 opisska wrote:
So far there are not too many americans in the thread, but as you guys come, you should really appreciate how this is your collective fault. Nothing exists on its own, even the mighty TSA has been created and appointed by your government, that you elected and you did not pressure it enough to put things straight (also because you keep buying the "we must protect you from terrorists" stories). So if you are an American and you are outraged, don't even think about bitching on the internet if you haven't already written to your congresman!

After a couple of visists, I still think that the US is quite a cool (even though very sifficult to grasp) country. But this TSA crap, which every visitor must come in contact with, is really ruining the image.

On October 11 2012 13:25 Comogury wrote:

Obviously isolated insidents. No need to worry!

And someone said 1 in 10 is a good ratio. How is that a good ratio? 10% of all TSA workers doing something shady is a good thing? So 10% of all waiters will give you a fake bill and charge your card $100 in tips? Is that a good thing? What about if 10% of police officers stole your car? That's hilarious if you think 1 in 10 is a good ratio.

On October 10 2012 18:21 lodeet wrote:


Pretty much this.

If you read the article “I asked them if they thought that was an appropriate location, and they told me that everything was fine".

That quote doesn't say anything about requesting a private room. She simply asked if it was appropriate to do it there and they said yes, and he was embarrassed but she didn't speak up for herself. Maybe if she refused being patted down until they went to a private room then she would of got her way, but if you gonna sit there and comply then complain later how you were embarrassed well it's your fault for letting that situation happen.

“I didn’t want to start getting upset and swearing and causing more of a scene or issue,”

She was completely passive about the whole incident.