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GoSuChicken
Germany1726 Posts
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keioh
France1099 Posts
I would like to emphasize the "don't stay in the teacher lobby" because of the "negativity". This is so true it is almost frightening. I had a moment between 2 hours of class where I decided to work in the teacher's room, and I heard during 90% of the time complaints about balance, queen, deathball and... wait, no, it was about bad scheduling, bad working condition, bad students, bad parents of last year, bad organization of hierarchy and aministration, bad life, bad badness. I have some luck though, because the maths team of my highschool is composed of "jolly good fellows", friendly, funny, and helping. Also my supervisor is more than experimented with new teachers, which is good. Another point is worth insisting : talk. I felt quite depressed after the first day, although the lessons went good, and contact with students was normal and even promising, I was crushed after the second : second class was not so cool, but they were not that annoying nor trying to drive me mad. I feel that I'm not at the right place, and what I have to teach, honestly, bores me to death ; I am sad for my students because I am afraid that they'll eventually feel that I am bored, and how do you want to motivate childrens if you look pissed or tired by what you want to teach them. But still I could feel that this work could be rewarding and interesting, just in the first hours I gave, so I don't really know what will happen this year. I have spent a large part of the weekend talking with other teachers, friends, and family. I feel it is necessary for any teacher to do so, because you need to evacuate the stress in some way. Overall this post is great, gives new teachers everything to have the better start possible. | ||
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Vansetsu
United States1454 Posts
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y0su
Finland7871 Posts
On September 06 2012 23:42 micronesia wrote: If you know anyone starting out as a teacher, I suggest you point them to this guide. As MightyAtom said, some of the information is coming in a bit late for the current school year, but will still be applicable for next semester/year. This is awesome - I have a few friends who will probably benefit from this (even if a little late). | ||
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s.a.y
Croatia3840 Posts
I find it kind of sad how much paperwork/administration work a teacher has to do for every class. I would love to hear education experience from your on classes and from other people. On September 07 2012 18:05 Ahzz wrote: Personally I'd like to hear more about personal teaching experiences, how you motivate students, what choices and decisions you have to make because of the natural difference in talent across the class and other experiences you have had over the years. These things really interest me, and they are mostly global and apply everywhere. This. Btw Ahzz, did you write a zerg tutorial on using both hands for macro? | ||
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Ahzz
Finland780 Posts
On September 12 2012 20:23 s.a.y wrote: A very good guide. Currently searching for my third workplace as a computer science teacher and i am about to go for an interview tomorrow. I find it kind of sad how much paperwork/administration work a teacher has to do for every class. I would love to hear education experience from your on classes and from other people. This. Btw Ahzz, did you write a zerg tutorial on using both hands for macro? not rly, but my zerg guide covered that among other things | ||
micronesia
United States24799 Posts
On September 12 2012 20:23 s.a.y wrote: I find it kind of sad how much paperwork/administration work a teacher has to do for every class. I would love to hear education experience from your on classes and from other people. I'm not sure if I understand what you are asking for, but if you clarify I will be happy to try. | ||
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s.a.y
Croatia3840 Posts
On September 12 2012 22:52 micronesia wrote: I'm not sure if I understand what you are asking for, but if you clarify I will be happy to try. Wow, i wrote that wrong :D I was trying to ask to write down situations in the classroom that you had to handle in a specific way. Lets say pupils that are not interested at all, annoying kids, stupid parents complaining, stuff like that. | ||
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micronesia
United States24799 Posts
On September 12 2012 23:15 s.a.y wrote: Wow, i wrote that wrong :D I was trying to ask to write down situations in the classroom that you had to handle in a specific way. Lets say pupils that are not interested at all, annoying kids, stupid parents complaining, stuff like that. Any chance you could be more specific? Your question is akin to someone asking a starcraft player "tell me about times your army was attacked and you had to use a combination of macro and micro to survive." Also keep in mind this thread is intended to discuss preparation for teaching more so than actual teaching. | ||
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KING CHARLIE :D
United States447 Posts
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micronesia
United States24799 Posts
On September 13 2012 00:14 KING CHARLIE :D wrote: WTF. You could've come up with four more letters and made it the A-Z of teaching! You were so close to such a relevant and clever format... I prefer to make it seem like the information is being given based on how useful it is rather than how it adheres to the format :p | ||
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s.a.y
Croatia3840 Posts
On September 13 2012 00:18 micronesia wrote: I prefer to make it seem like the information is being given based on how useful it is rather than how it adheres to the format :p You said you have four years behind you in education. There must have been some funny stories, specific situations that stick to your mind and the way you solved them. Did you have parents complain about you ever? Were you ever harassed at work by students or other teachers and how did you deal with it? Are there some stories in previous schools that made you think about quitting? In StarCraft lingo it would be micromanagement stories time. | ||
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micronesia
United States24799 Posts
On September 13 2012 04:05 s.a.y wrote: You said you have four years behind you in education. There must have been some funny stories, specific situations that stick to your mind and the way you solved them. Did you have parents complain about you ever? Yeah, although fortunately not a lot of cases (every teacher has them at least from time to time). One example: a parent was claiming that I didn't like their child. I denied it. What I didn't like was the child's behavior in some instances. It's frustrating being told "be honest, you dislike my child, don't you." There really wasn't anything I could do to passify this parent (in fact, she had a reputation of being a big pain with lots of other teachers as well). It didn't help that her husband was on the board of education... Were you ever harassed at work by students or other teachers and how did you deal with it? I haven't really had trouble with being harrassed by students... that's not to say there weren't situations during class where students did things they shouldn't, but I don't think it was harassment. I have had a couple of run-ins with other teachers (again, not really harassment so much as just misconduct). I'll give one of the ligher examples (I don't actually like talking about this type of stuff that much): Students in the school I was teaching in would miss classes on a rotating schedule in order to attend music lessons. For example, student A would miss my class today, and then again in 15 school days, and so on. However, if you were giving a test to students, students were allowed to miss the music lesson and attend a makeup at another time. With one student it happened that I was giving a test (or similar activity) on the day of their music lesson, so they were forced to makeup the lesson. Then next time they had a lesson scheduled in ~15 days, it just so happened there was another event that required the student to makeup the lesson. My schedule applied to several classes of students so I couldn't change the days of tests and other activities in order to allow this student to not have a test on a music lesson date. It was of course in no way intentional that this student was forced to miss their music lesson twice.The next day after the second missed lesson, I get a memo in my mailbox from the music teacher which says something like "please see me so I can explain to you the importance of music lessons." I was pretty pissed off by it, and being a pretty new teacher at the time, immediately confided in one of my colleagues. His opinion was that I should see her ASAP (it was right before a long weekend) and sort it out in order to avoid letting the problem fester. He and I walked together down to the music area, he pointed out the teacher to me (I never would have recognized her otherwise) and I approached her and introduced myself. She and I clarified with each other the policy regarding when students do/don't go to music lessons due to classroom activities. We determined that we were on the same page regarding this issue, and she seemed pacified after that. She sent me a rather inappropriate memo but meeting with her and discussing it worked out fine. I have not always been so lucky in that regard. Are there some stories in previous schools that made you think about quitting? There are billions of these, but I don't want to complain too much about teaching in this thread :p | ||
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WinterNightz
United States111 Posts
On September 09 2012 17:59 keioh wrote: I would like to emphasize the "don't stay in the teacher lobby" because of the "negativity". This is so true it is almost frightening. I had a moment between 2 hours of class where I decided to work in the teacher's room, and I heard during 90% of the time complaints about balance, queen, deathball and... wait, no, it was about... ok, I seriously giggled at this. In seriousness, though, this is something I need to work on. I'm not a traditional school-teacher, but I have been working to become a ballroom/social dance teacher. I have the drive, and I have the understanding, except most of that drive comes from watching terrible teachers spread misinformation, poor understanding, and carry on this charade of helping people "learn", when in actuality no student would ever improve from their classes no matter how many hours they listen to these teachers who can barely dance themselves. Instead they just provide an echo chamber of the same ineffective and meaningless cues over and over and over again. And as you can tell, that's a whole lot of negativity. I know for myself, I need to move away from that and impart knowledge and technique from a positive, and enjoyable place (while maintaining my dance philosophy of hard work and mental understanding). I'm making progress, (a month ago, I wouldn't even have wanted to take my classes), but man is it hard. and to you, micronesia: thanks for this! it's a great reminder to me of how much hard work teaching is, and how you can't give up, even if you need help. I needed that this morning.  | ||
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Wroshe
Netherlands1051 Posts
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Bigtony
United States1606 Posts
A+ reading material on the subject. | ||
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micronesia
United States24799 Posts
On September 24 2012 09:16 Bigtony wrote: http://www.amazon.com/The-First-Days-School-Effective/dp/0962936022 A+ reading material on the subject. I've looked through that in the past... some good insights although definitely geared towards teaching younger students. | ||
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Bigtony
United States1606 Posts
On September 25 2012 12:39 micronesia wrote: I've looked through that in the past... some good insights although definitely geared towards teaching younger students. It's very focused on classroom management, rather than teaching pedagogy or specific teaching techniques. In that regard I've found it useful all the way up to seniors in high school. For someone who is entering teaching without studying teaching in University, it's an excellent primer. | ||
itsjustatank
Hong Kong9179 Posts
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TimmyMac
Canada499 Posts
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