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On August 28 2012 10:37 Sickkiee wrote: Oh god you're not allowed to dance? Is there a specific reasoning behind that as I am not well versed in the arts of the Qu'ran or Sharia/Taliban law.
It is just called a sin in the Quaran, so the rulers take it to their power to punish how they deem necessary.
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It's pretty easy to infer that all organized religion is the work of Satan. What better ploy to turn people away from true faith than to send down "divine" messengers who spread only confusion and malice (and a little bit on NAMBLA to boot)? I mean, Ratzinger even looks like the spitting image of emperor Palpatine.
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled wasn't convincing the world he didn't exist, it was founding the Christian, Islamic and Jewish churches to do his bidding.
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I don't like dubstep either.
User was temp banned for this post.
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On August 28 2012 23:21 Lockitupv2 wrote: I don't like dubstep either. 17 people got killed and this is your response? ...
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Wow are you fuckign kidding me?? People get beheaded for dancing and singing?! Women included?! Fucking barbaric pieces of shit. Unbelievable. They really are the bottom of the shit barrel of humanity.
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Can't we just remove all religious authority in the world already, the whole gay marriage things is equally as stupid as beheading people for dancing, sure it's not murder but the motives behind it are the same, if a loser like me can see how stupid religious authority in the world is then surely some fuck face in power can.
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I tihnk it's sad how we dare judge other countries and their beleifs. How dare we say they are wrong, or 'unprogressed' or in the stone ages.
They have a right to live there and do what they want. They can form their owns laws, they are a sovergein nation and we have no business to tell them anything.
So tried of forgeiners trying to oppress others in the name of 'progress'
'progress' is nothing more than social imperialism.
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Oh man, you mean Afghanistan has radical people? This would never happen in America where people do innocent things like worship or watch movies. >_>
I don't see how people are turning this into a religious debate until the people guilty for it use religion to defend it. Even then, Christianity has its fair share of radicals. Futhermore, I'm much more inclined to take the Saudi Arabian guy on Page 2's opinion on this than a whole bunch of baised westerners. I've talked to a few people from Oman and I see nothing but peaceful things coming from the area (minus the radicals).
SayGen said it best. On August 29 2012 00:40 SayGen wrote: I tihnk it's sad how we dare judge other countries and their beleifs. How dare we say they are wrong, or 'unprogressed' or in the stone ages.
They have a right to live there and do what they want. They can form their owns laws, they are a sovergein nation and we have no business to tell them anything.
So tried of forgeiners trying to oppress others in the name of 'progress'
'progress' is nothing more than social imperialism.
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On August 29 2012 00:40 SayGen wrote: I tihnk it's sad how we dare judge other countries and their beleifs. How dare we say they are wrong, or 'unprogressed' or in the stone ages.
They have a right to live there and do what they want. They can form their owns laws, they are a sovergein nation and we have no business to tell them anything.
So tried of forgeiners trying to oppress others in the name of 'progress'
'progress' is nothing more than social imperialism. I for one am in favor of this "social imperialism". Religion has been a "tool" used throughout the ages against mankind. Millions have been killed/controlled in the name of their respective gods/goddesses. This is just another sensationalist story to rekindle the efforts of why we the Americans are there. If the world really wanted to help that country then it wouldn't just primarily be America there. The day humankind can break away from such narrow minded values is the day we will start progressing further as a race. Regardless though the killings were unjustified and is a travesty against mankind.
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On August 29 2012 00:17 MiQ wrote: Wow are you fuckign kidding me?? People get beheaded for dancing and singing?! Women included?! Fucking barbaric pieces of shit. Unbelievable. They really are the bottom of the shit barrel of humanity. Women included? What do you mean by that? It's better to behead men than women?
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On August 29 2012 01:07 ddrddrddrddr wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2012 00:17 MiQ wrote: Wow are you fuckign kidding me?? People get beheaded for dancing and singing?! Women included?! Fucking barbaric pieces of shit. Unbelievable. They really are the bottom of the shit barrel of humanity. Women included? What do you mean by that? It's better to behead men than women?
When we say "Women and children first", is it because we think men are lesser beings? No. To me it's a principle, you dont physicly assault a woman, and beheading one is as low as you can get. Happy?
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On August 29 2012 01:07 ddrddrddrddr wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2012 00:17 MiQ wrote: Wow are you fuckign kidding me?? People get beheaded for dancing and singing?! Women included?! Fucking barbaric pieces of shit. Unbelievable. They really are the bottom of the shit barrel of humanity. Women included? What do you mean by that? It's better to behead men than women?
It was a sexist comment. Though I'm sure he'll claim chivalry, we both know it was discrimination. No sex is worth saving over the other. Woman and children 1st means little in a world of equality.
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On August 29 2012 00:58 bK- wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2012 00:40 SayGen wrote: I tihnk it's sad how we dare judge other countries and their beleifs. How dare we say they are wrong, or 'unprogressed' or in the stone ages.
They have a right to live there and do what they want. They can form their owns laws, they are a sovergein nation and we have no business to tell them anything.
So tried of forgeiners trying to oppress others in the name of 'progress'
'progress' is nothing more than social imperialism. I for one am in favor of this "social imperialism". Religion has been a "tool" used throughout the ages against mankind. Millions have been killed/controlled in the name of their respective gods/goddesses. This is just another sensationalist story to rekindle the efforts of why we the Americans are there. If the world really wanted to help that country then it wouldn't just primarily be America there. The day humankind can break away from such narrow minded values is the day we will start progressing further as a race. Regardless though the killings were unjustified and is a travesty against mankind.
Take religion out of it then. They were beheaded cause they don't like dancing.
Still in favor of social imperialism?
Tolerance is a two way street my friend.
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On August 29 2012 01:39 SayGen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2012 00:58 bK- wrote:On August 29 2012 00:40 SayGen wrote: I tihnk it's sad how we dare judge other countries and their beleifs. How dare we say they are wrong, or 'unprogressed' or in the stone ages.
They have a right to live there and do what they want. They can form their owns laws, they are a sovergein nation and we have no business to tell them anything.
So tried of forgeiners trying to oppress others in the name of 'progress'
'progress' is nothing more than social imperialism. I for one am in favor of this "social imperialism". Religion has been a "tool" used throughout the ages against mankind. Millions have been killed/controlled in the name of their respective gods/goddesses. This is just another sensationalist story to rekindle the efforts of why we the Americans are there. If the world really wanted to help that country then it wouldn't just primarily be America there. The day humankind can break away from such narrow minded values is the day we will start progressing further as a race. Regardless though the killings were unjustified and is a travesty against mankind. Take religion out of it then. They were beheaded cause they don't like dancing. Still in favor of social imperialism? Tolerance is a two way street my friend. If religion is taken out of the argument then I am still in favor of "social imperialism". Remember this thread wasn't made for us not to be arguing over such lame semantics. With all the skewed information that is coming to us, we can't discern what is true and what is not true. Regardless though if this story is in fact true, the reasoning behind it is just disturbing.
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On August 29 2012 01:37 SayGen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2012 01:07 ddrddrddrddr wrote:On August 29 2012 00:17 MiQ wrote: Wow are you fuckign kidding me?? People get beheaded for dancing and singing?! Women included?! Fucking barbaric pieces of shit. Unbelievable. They really are the bottom of the shit barrel of humanity. Women included? What do you mean by that? It's better to behead men than women? It was a sexist comment. Though I'm sure he'll claim chivalry, we both know it was discrimination. No sex is worth saving over the other. Woman and children 1st means little in a world of equality.
So you label me as sexist yet go out of your way to say we shouldn't judge other countries and cultures that treat their own people like shit.
Yeah okay, keep on spreading your wise words of wisdom.
Stupid double standard bullshit.
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Both Islam and christianity have the doctrine. "Do not kill." No exceptions.
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On August 29 2012 01:37 SayGen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2012 01:07 ddrddrddrddr wrote:On August 29 2012 00:17 MiQ wrote: Wow are you fuckign kidding me?? People get beheaded for dancing and singing?! Women included?! Fucking barbaric pieces of shit. Unbelievable. They really are the bottom of the shit barrel of humanity. Women included? What do you mean by that? It's better to behead men than women? It was a sexist comment. Though I'm sure he'll claim chivalry, we both know it was discrimination. No sex is worth saving over the other. Woman and children 1st means little in a world of equality. Keep telling yourself that.
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On August 29 2012 00:40 SayGen wrote: I tihnk it's sad how we dare judge other countries and their beleifs.
Judgement is never sad.
Everything should be judged, measured and evaluated, all the time, by as many people as possible.
Criticism of a system of beliefs that causes things like this to happen is perfectly rational and justified. Likewise, their own criticisms of a western system of beliefs are, in many ways, justified as well and should not be ignored.
Both need to be expressed, rather than either side "letting everyone do what they want".
Nobody should ever be allowed to entirely "do what they want" - no culture, no nation and no individual. Principles of humanism are universal, and anyone going against those should be pressured to fall into line.
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Whats new?
Its not like we didnt know how radical and devoted extremists the taliban are.
The faster and harder we can annihilate them, the better.
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"Officials said that Afghan intelligence agencies were trying to gather accurate information, and that the dance party as the reason for the beheading rumor was just one of many."
Methinks this part is very important.
On August 28 2012 11:43 BroOd wrote:Theory of the attack seems to be evolving: Show nested quote +Though initial reports of Monday's killings say the 17 victims were beheaded for taking part in a mixed-gender party in the southern Helmand province, officials now say the deaths may have been the result of a rivalry between two Taliban commanders over the two women in the troubled Musa Qala district. http://www.aljazeera.com/news/asia/2012/08/2012827141644149141.html
Figured there was more to it. Not saying the killing was justified at all, but I guessed it wasn't just simply about "dancing." Thanks, BroOd.
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