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Well now... that's really kind of sad. :/
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Oh wow, is it actually happening? There was a huge shitstorm going down in that one Tour de France blog and in the Olympics discussion thread :X ruh-roh.
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I'd say the goal of a conviction now is to show cyclists that they can't get away with it, and that they will eventually be caught. Nothing to do with "spite or greed".
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"Regardless if he did or not, it's still a huge accomplishment"
no no no no you got it all wrong. accomplishments while under the effect of doping are worth nothing. If "he did", these accomplishments don't exist.
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don't worry guys. No one in the world will ever take this seriously. Lance Armstrong will go down in history as a 7 time Tour De France Winner, and will never be forgotton. This is politically motivated and won't stand up to any normal mans scrutinity. He is a hero and will always be one.
We Will Remember
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Well kids what did we learn?? We can cheat, make god knows how much money and all we have to do is give up our medals. Yay!!
Could someone explain why he would give up his 7 titles and accept a ban if he didnt do it?
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Looks like he never did anything wrong and passed every drug test ever given to him, and now he's like "stfu and gtfo and leave me the hell alone."
So they should probably do that.
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On August 24 2012 12:10 TommyP wrote:
Well kids what did we learn?? We can cheat, make god knows how much money and all we have to do is give up our medals. Yay!!
Could someone explain why he would give up his 7 titles and accept a ban if he didnt do it?
Except you know, they don't really have proof? That's why this is happening after god knows how many years of harrassing the man. Because they couldn't convict him during the races.
Edit: Seems like a lot of people posting without knowing anything that actually happened then or even reading the article.
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As an avid cyclist any doping ban is a hit to the community and a black mark on the sport. This one is probably going to hit the hardest. I feel that a lot of people were mad at the fact that he created such a huge career out of his TDF wins. I mean if it wasn't for those wins there would be no Livestrong, and anything else of the like, which Armstrong makes a ton of money off of.
It really is a cheat or lose game out there, if one person does it, the rest have to. The only way around it is to have the best doctors and lawyers out there to protect you. Sadly after years and years of investigations they finally got him.
Sad day for cycling.
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Dude has one testicle....give him a break.
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Looks like he never did anything wrong and passed every drug test ever given to him, and now he's like "stfu and gtfo and leave me the hell alone."
So they should probably do that.
On August 24 2012 12:11 Colour wrote:
Good. Cheating is lame.
What? According to the ESPN article, he never cheated and he never did anything wrong o.O
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I like the term innocent until proven guilty ^^ posts like "good. cheating is lame." when it isn't set in stone shows though that most people will pick up the pitchfork and run with anything they hear.
Let's see how this pans out.
""There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, 'Enough is enough.' For me, that time is now," Armstrong said in a statement sent to The Associated Press. He called the USADA investigation an "unconstitutional witch hunt."
"I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in winning my seven Tours since 1999," he said. "The toll this has taken on my family and my work for our foundation and on me leads me to where I am today -- finished with this nonsense."
Armstrong insisted his decision is not an admission of drug use, but a refusal to enter an arbitration process he believes is improper and unfair to athletes facing charges.
"USADA cannot assert control of a professional international sport and attempt to strip my seven Tour de France titles," he said. "I know who won those seven Tours, my teammates know who won those seven Tours, and everyone I competed against knows who won those seven Tours."
USADA maintains that Armstrong has used banned substances as far back as 1996, including the blood-booster EPO and steroids as well as blood transfusions -- all to boost his performance.
The 40-year-old Armstrong walked away from the sport in 2011 without being charged after a two-year federal criminal investigation into many of the same accusations he faces from USADA. The federal probe was closed in February, but USADA announced in June it had evidence Armstrong used banned substances and methods -- and encouraged their use by teammates. The agency also said it had blood tests from 2009 and 2010 that were "fully consistent" with blood doping.
Included in USADA's evidence were emails written by Armstrong's former U.S. Postal Service teammate Floyd Landis, who was stripped of his 2006 Tour de France title after a positive drug test. Landis' emails to a USA Cycling official detailed allegations of a complex doping program on the team.
Landis, who lost his 2006 Tour title to a doping conviction, will be arraigned Friday morning in U.S. District Court in San Diego on a single count of wire fraud related to fundraising for his legal defense, but under an agreement with the U.S. Attorney's Office, his case will be dismissed if he repays donors within three years.
The USADA also said it had 10 former Armstrong teammates ready to testify against him. Other than suggesting they include Landis and Tyler Hamilton, both of whom have admitted to doping offenses, the agency has refused to say who they are or specifically what they would say.
"There is zero physical evidence to support (the) outlandish and heinous claims. The only physical evidence here is the hundreds of (doping) controls I have passed with flying colors," Armstrong said."
his statement.
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This is so sad  I really hope that he didn't cheat. It says that he isn't admitting that he cheated but is fed up with the constant prosecution.
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On August 24 2012 12:12 Infernal_dream wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2012 12:10 TommyP wrote:
Well kids what did we learn?? We can cheat, make god knows how much money and all we have to do is give up our medals. Yay!!
Could someone explain why he would give up his 7 titles and accept a ban if he didnt do it? Except you know, they don't really have proof? That's why this is happening after god knows how many years of harrassing the man. Because they couldn't convict him during the races. Edit: Seems like a lot of people posting without knowing anything that actually happened then or even reading the article.
But why would he tarnish his name and give up his achievements if he didnt do it? I mean its cool hes saying that he didnt do it and was just tired of being bugged, but honestly if you win 7 tour de france titles and have a great legacy you dont give it up for any reason.
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The way i see it, is that he had such an amazing record that they didn't believe it could happen without doping bc come on they cant do it why should someone else be able to. I think its just jealousy
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He should win a lottttttt of money in civil court.
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On August 24 2012 12:09 Al Bundy wrote:
"Regardless if he did or not, it's still a huge accomplishment"
no no no no you got it all wrong. accomplishments while under the effect of doping are worth nothing. If "he did", these accomplishments don't exist.
No no no no you got it all wrong. It's still a lot of amazing accomplishments.
You dope and win 7 Tours. I double dog dare you!
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You too quick. When I saw the headline a couple minutes ago, I was pretty taken aback. He was such an inspirational story, and now he's tarnished forever. 
