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tsango
Australia214 Posts
And seriously, how often do you hear of men claiming women raped them? I bet you it happens though | ||
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ReboundEU
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zalz
Netherlands3704 Posts
On August 23 2012 21:08 tsango wrote: Slightly off topic but this thread got my thinking that its funny feminists so openly criticise society for objectifying women and cite so many examples where they're hard done by. When it comes to rape, the law seems to favour women because society as a whole seems to think the only way a man can be raped is by another man - thus the law being anti-male. And seriously, how often do you hear of men claiming women raped them? I bet you it happens though Of course it happens, but it a great deal more difficult for a woman to rape a man than in reverse because on average a man can easily resist a women trying to force herself onto him. Meanwhile, the average man is a great deal stronger than a woman. It certainly happens, and certainly should be persecuted, nobody deserves to have their person violated, but it simply happens less. I don't think the slight against feminists is deserving though. I don't know of any feminists that argue that a man cannot be raped. | ||
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Shiragaku
Hong Kong4308 Posts
On August 23 2012 21:08 tsango wrote: Slightly off topic but this thread got my thinking that its funny feminists so openly criticise society for objectifying women and cite so many examples where they're hard done by. When it comes to rape, the law seems to favour women because society as a whole seems to think the only way a man can be raped is by another man - thus the law being anti-male. And seriously, how often do you hear of men claiming women raped them? I bet you it happens though Although I do believe that women are not 50 percent equal in society overall, there are some aspects of law which favors them. Rape of men by women is not common, although it happens and sadly, those cases are often not taken seriously due to a double standard because when you hear of reverse rape, it is usually a sexual fantasy. If you want to criticize women for having too much power (although I do not believe it to be exactly true) try criticizing divorce law, domestic violence, and the draft rather than rape because the statistics are against you and you will get nowhere. | ||
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kokomojowelieole
United States99 Posts
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kokomojowelieole
United States99 Posts
On August 23 2012 21:12 Shiragaku wrote: Although I do believe that women are not 50 percent equal in society overall, there are some aspects of law which favors them. Rape of men by women is not common, although it happens and sadly, those cases are often not taken seriously due to a double standard because when you hear of reverse rape, it is usually a sexual fantasy. If you want to criticize women for having too much power (although I do not believe it to be exactly true) try criticizing divorce law, domestic violence, and the draft rather than rape because the statistics are against you and you will get nowhere. LOL, it's funny how few guys trust the legal system and ignore a pre-nup. Everyone who thinks men and women get equal protection under the law, wait until the wife's attorney alleges domineering, anti-social behavior, binge-drinking (where legally 4 or more beers is binge drinking), online gambling (even if it is $50 per year on pokerstars), etc. | ||
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Grumbels
Netherlands7032 Posts
No person with good intentions needs ever worry about accidentally raping a girl, that's just ridiculous. This does not mean that all forms of rape have equal consequences, are equally destructive and equally horrible. But they are all bad and that should be the first step. There is no difference between rape and 'rape-rape' and legitimate rape is a ridiculous combination of words. | ||
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ragz_gt
9172 Posts
On August 23 2012 21:24 kokomojowelieole wrote: LOL, it's funny how few guys trust the legal system and ignore a pre-nup. Everyone who thinks men and women get equal protection under the law, wait until the wife's attorney alleges domineering, anti-social behavior, binge-drinking (where legally 4 or more beers is binge drinking), online gambling (even if it is $50 per year on pokerstars), etc. Sounds like someone had a bad one... | ||
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Shiragaku
Hong Kong4308 Posts
I do not mean to criticize the video, but I really wish people would start taking male on male rape seriously. The fact that prison is still a funny topic, even in television is a bit disturbing. Although I do not know anyone males who have been raped, I read up on it quite a bit and it is really traumatizing and rather common. And I have not been raped, I have been molested by a guy before and it is not pleasant or comical in any way. The irony was, that the guy was incredibly homophobic. | ||
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kokomojowelieole
United States99 Posts
No but I saw my friend's older brother go throught it, LMAO. He got creamed and has to give over half of his income to the ex-wife while she is sleeping with some random dude. That is after the government takes a bite out of his paycheck first, then his wife second. He literally had to move in with random roommates because he can only afford like $350 monthly rent, lol. He's a idiot with PhD in politics, so add a worthless degree on top of his crappy life, lmao. | ||
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kokomojowelieole
United States99 Posts
On August 23 2012 21:28 Shiragaku wrote: I do not mean to criticize the video, but I really wish people would start taking male on male rape seriously. The fact that prison is still a funny topic, even in television is a bit disturbing. Although I do not know anyone males who have been raped, I read up on it quite a bit and it is really traumatizing and rather common. And I have not been raped, I have been molested by a guy before and it is not pleasant or comical in any way. The irony was, that the guy was incredibly homophobic. Comedy is meant to be offensive to some people. Otherwise we are stuck with politically correct & crappy comedians who can't make jokes about race, sex, smokers, pedofiles, gay butt secks rape, etc. | ||
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Psychonian
United States2322 Posts
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kokomojowelieole
United States99 Posts
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Shiragaku
Hong Kong4308 Posts
On August 23 2012 21:30 kokomojowelieole wrote: Comedy is meant to be offensive to some people. Otherwise we are stuck with politically correct & crappy comedians who can't make jokes about race, sex, smokers, pedofiles, gay butt secks rape, etc. I was not criticizing comedy, you, or the video. It was simply stating that society in general has to realize that male on male rape happens and it is awful. | ||
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Asmodeusx
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Ludwigvan
Germany2371 Posts
On August 23 2012 21:25 Grumbels wrote: Some people think that if you get a girl drunk and then take her home and have sex with her when she passes out then it's not rape. Or if she agrees to kissing and touching before. Or if she was flirting with you. Or if she agreed to sex before, but not this time. Or if she had an orgasm during being raped (strangely this happens). Or if she gets pregnant after rape. Or if she is not emotionally broken afterwards. Or if she didn't struggle against the rapist during the rape. Or if she was wearing seductive/revealing clothing. Or if she was "asking for it". Or if she agreed to go to some party and "should have known" what would happen. No person with good intentions needs ever worry about accidentally raping a girl, that's just ridiculous. This does not mean that all forms of rape have equal consequences, are equally destructive and equally horrible. But they are all bad and that should be the first step. There is no difference between rape and 'rape-rape' and legitimate rape is a ridiculous combination of words. I don't agree. I am 6 feet and 3 inches and sarcastic. Is it easy for me to see if someone is scared of me? No. Do people tell me if they don't agree? No, they are often afraid, if they see me and don't know me. How should I know, if nobody tells me? It's something that I learned over a long period thinking about how people see me. The intention alone is really not always enough. In my case it is a lot of experience too. It's just so hard to understand what impression people get of you. I am convinced that it can happen, that you later realize, that you raped a girl. Maybe you misinterpreted her not willing as lust. Not every girl will scream as shit and beat you. Some might think: "I have no chance anyway, so don't defend, just wait until its over." Well-intentioned is the opposite of good. XD | ||
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ZergOwaR
Norway280 Posts
On August 23 2012 21:08 tsango wrote: Slightly off topic but this thread got my thinking that its funny feminists so openly criticise society for objectifying women and cite so many examples where they're hard done by. When it comes to rape, the law seems to favour women because society as a whole seems to think the only way a man can be raped is by another man - thus the law being anti-male. And seriously, how often do you hear of men claiming women raped them? I bet you it happens though probably yeah.. though your statement reminded me of a george carlin bit "this is something you will not hear a man say, 'stop sucking my dick or i'll call the police!'"  | ||
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h41fgod
Sweden377 Posts
On August 23 2012 16:05 JustPassingBy wrote: I prefer Sweden's definition, however I do not see how Assange could be sued for that, he neither forced them nor threatened them. edit: On second thought, the mentioning of "threat" might be redundant, since if you threaten somebody into doing something, you force them into doing it. Having sex with someone while they sleep and refusing to continue is not rape (that is part of what he is accused of)? | ||
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Grumbels
Netherlands7032 Posts
On August 23 2012 21:39 Ludwigvan wrote: I don't agree. I am 6 feet and 3 inches and sarcastic. Is it easy for me to see if someone is scared of me? No. Do people tell me if they don't agree? No, they are often afraid, if they see me and don't know me. How should I know, if nobody tells me? It's something that I learned over a long period thinking about how people see me. The intention alone is really not always enough. In my case it is a lot of experience too. It's just so hard to understand what impression people get of you. I am convinced that it can happen, that you later realize, that you raped a girl. Maybe you misinterpreted her not willing as lust. Not every girl will scream as shit and beat you. Some might think: "I have no chance anyway, so don't defend, just wait until its over." Well-intentioned is the opposite of good. XD I hope you're not serious. Please give me a scenario where you think this could happen. | ||
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Thylacine
Sweden882 Posts
On August 23 2012 18:59 Arevall wrote: Forced vaginal intercourse or a comparable sexual act, which is carried out by assault or threat of violence. Have fun in prison dude. I was to late to see this post and now im in prison. God dammit =( Only in here for 1 week tho! And it's quite pleasent with a 35'' Plasma TV and a pet and a water bed and a personal computer, so i'm good! Oh and I also get better food then students get in school. That's swedish prison for you my friend. | ||
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