EPTWhat is Rape? - Page 3
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Daimai
Sweden762 Posts
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VPCursed
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CrtBalorda
Slovenia704 Posts
And then she doesnt even need to prove it. Awsome. Maybe I do want cameras watching me everywhere I go. Rape: Having sex with someone through force, threat or without the persons knowlage. | ||
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nam nam
Sweden4672 Posts
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beesinyoface
2450 Posts
On August 23 2012 18:43 CrtBalorda wrote: Cool some girl can just walk to the police and say she was raped. And then she doesnt even need to prove it. Awsome. Maybe I do want cameras watching me everywhere I go. Rape: Having sex with someone through force, threat or without the persons knowlage. Boy, what a really intelligent and informative post. Your knowledge of the legal system is really inspirational! | ||
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Thylacine
Sweden882 Posts
Awesome. I can finally bang that chick in school without going to prison.Just gotta fuck her ass instead then oO User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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SpikeStarcraft
Germany2095 Posts
1. There has to be a obvious threat by the rapist by verbally threatening her or threathening with a weapon. 2. If thats not the case and the threat is only implied the raped person has to voice her denial at that very situation when it's happening, not after it has happened. Only because she feels like being forced, it doesnt mean that she is actually forced to do it. Its her duty to voice her denial. Even if she fears of being hit, then she should rather take the hit then being raped. I feel like the law punishes rape harder than being hit and i dont know whats worse. but if there's a chance that she could prevent rape but is scared for some implied reason of being hit, then she has to take the risk because theres a possibility that there was no threat intended in the first place. 3. If shes obviously unable to voice denial like sleeping or passed out because she drank too much, then you risk rape by having sex with her. If shes still conscious this doesnt apply even if shes doing things she wouldnt do if she wasnt drunk. thats how i feel about it. | ||
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algue
France1436 Posts
Oh baby don't hurt me ! Don't hurt me no more ! Oh, I don't know why you're not there I give you my love, but you don't care So what is right and what is wrong Gimme a sign What is rape ?! User was warned for this post | ||
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Arevall
Sweden1133 Posts
On August 23 2012 18:57 Thylacine wrote: LOL so in Sweden it's only rape if the vagina is fucked? Awesome. I can finally bang that chick in school without going to prison.Just gotta fuck her ass instead then oO Forced vaginal intercourse or a comparable sexual act, which is carried out by assault or threat of violence. Have fun in prison dude. | ||
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Shiragaku
Hong Kong4308 Posts
On August 23 2012 18:57 Thylacine wrote: LOL so in Sweden it's only rape if the vagina is fucked? Awesome. I can finally bang that chick in school without going to prison.Just gotta fuck her ass instead then oO I know you are not being serious, but I am pretty damn sure the book of law would find a way to convict you anyway. And if you get off free, then society will do its work. | ||
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CrtBalorda
Slovenia704 Posts
On August 23 2012 18:56 beesinyoface wrote: Boy, what a really intelligent and informative post. Your knowledge of the legal system is really inspirational! Why thank you. I have seen it in movies. | ||
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lisward
Singapore959 Posts
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
On August 23 2012 18:10 VPCursed wrote: rape is when you and another get stupid drunk and have sex, then she decides 2 weeks later she wants to change her mind and reports you the police. thats rape. At least in maine thats how it is. Your intervention feels personnal. | ||
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ZergOwaR
Norway280 Posts
We could make a good analog out of this. If i BBQ a boar in africa, and i promis this obviously starved individual some of it, and then deny it when it's finally done, most people would say that it's my own fault if he just steals it. Same thing goes for sex. It's a deep drive in men, it's way stronger than any drug. How can it be his fault, if the woman does some shit like that then? if a women gets naked and climbs into your bed and says "i dont want to have sex" thats your problem and you cant force yourself on her. IF you do you have some serious serlf control issues. getting horny is a deep drive in men, but not that deep and certainly not stronger than any drug. I have had so much alcohol in me that i black out and remember nothing.. i have never been so horny that i cant help going after a girl, even a naked one.. in my bed. she said she was to tired and didnt want to.. i was abit dissapointed cause i was good to go, but that is life.. any man that says he can't control his urges is fucking weak and deserves to be put into a cell with another man that can't control himself either | ||
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Shiragaku
Hong Kong4308 Posts
On August 23 2012 20:34 ZergOwaR wrote: if a women gets naked and climbs into your bed and says "i dont want to have sex" thats your problem and you cant force yourself on her. IF you do you have some serious serlf control issues. getting horny is a deep drive in men, but not that deep and certainly not stronger than any drug. I have had so much alcohol in me that i black out and remember nothing.. i have never been so horny that i cant help going after a girl, even a naked one.. in my bed. she said she was to tired and didnt want to.. i was abit dissapointed cause i was good to go, but that is life.. any man that says he can't control his urges is fucking weak and deserves to be put into a cell with another man that can't control himself either "Wait! You are saying we have to take responsibility for our actions even though she is asking for it? If she does not want to get raped, then she should stop acting like a fucking slut." The sad thing is that I know some guys in real life that actually believe that statement and would probably call you a whiny feminazi. It is really tragic blaming the victim is more common than it is suppose to be. | ||
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BlueBird.
United States3890 Posts
On August 23 2012 18:54 nam nam wrote: People seem to more focus on the bad legal systems than the actual definitions. Sure, a girl can have sex with someone and then lie about it, but then again a guy can just as easily lie about that she was all on board with the rough sex and that have gotten people off as well. The fact that people can trick the legal system should have no bearing on the actual definition so I don't see why every other person seem to bring this up. Thanks for posting this, some of the posts in this thread were pretty upsetting, it's best if I ignored them. Rape can be many things, it's really hard to define. Also I think the poster about Canada's laws, I like their definition, also i wouldn't practice "sleep" sex where you wake your partner up with it with a new partner, or someone you haven't been with for very long, that doesn't seem smart, so i don't mind that law at all. Also there are cities in the United States where rape is widely dismissed or discarded by the police, I believe New Orleans and Baltimore(and Philedelphia a long time ago) have in the recent past dismissed over 50% of sexual assault allegations as unfounded. (in 2010 Baltimore was classifying rape cases as unfounded at 5 times the national rate of unfounded cases.) Men and Women can be raped, it happens every day, too both sexes. It's hard too see so many people blaming the victims, or being worried about people accusing them off rape in this thread. If you act like a decent human being, and practice sex with people you trust, that have given you actual consent, you have nothing too worry about. People go their whole lives having sex with all sorts of partners without ending up in jail, because they made sure both parties were consenting with everything before they got in bed. Have there been false rape accusations? Of course! But it doesn't happen nearly as much as some people on TL seem to think it does for some reason based on posts in this thread and other threads. Whoever thinks that you can't control your sexual drive, just cause it's an animal instinct inside of us, please see a doctor. I think you have magical vagina magnets in your penis that want you to procreate and I'm worried for you. | ||
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revel8
United Kingdom3022 Posts
On August 23 2012 18:57 Thylacine wrote: LOL so in Sweden it's only rape if the vagina is fucked? Awesome. I can finally bang that chick in school without going to prison.Just gotta fuck her ass instead then oO It that is true, then your own ass is at risk too! Watch out! LOL User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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zalz
Netherlands3704 Posts
On August 23 2012 20:40 Shiragaku wrote: "Wait! You are saying we have to take responsibility for our actions even though she is asking for it? If she does not want to get raped, then she should stop acting like a fucking slut." The sad thing is that I know some guys in real life that actually believe that statement and would probably call you a whiny feminazi. It is really tragic blaming the victim is more common than it is suppose to be. The majority people actually believe that. The poll, using various examples (of which a girl willingly going into your bed naked, then changing her mind was the most extreme), showed how people increasingly became fine with the notion of forced sex. By the end I think it was something like 70/30 in favor of the girl being to blame for any rape that takes place. It wasn't in some 3rd world country etither, the UK if I remember correctly. Makes you wonder how much worse it is in other countries that don't even acknowledge that men and women are equal. It makes me sick how so many people can believe that it is ever alright to violate another individual's right over their own body. Shows how long the road still is. I don't always praise the TL community as much as others might, but I'm glad to see that at least the majority here respects a women's personhood. | ||
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The KY
United Kingdom6252 Posts
On August 23 2012 20:34 ZergOwaR wrote: if a women gets naked and climbs into your bed and says "i dont want to have sex" thats your problem and you cant force yourself on her. IF you do you have some serious serlf control issues. getting horny is a deep drive in men, but not that deep and certainly not stronger than any drug. I have had so much alcohol in me that i black out and remember nothing.. i have never been so horny that i cant help going after a girl, even a naked one.. in my bed. she said she was to tired and didnt want to.. i was abit dissapointed cause i was good to go, but that is life.. any man that says he can't control his urges is fucking weak and deserves to be put into a cell with another man that can't control himself either Indeed. The idea that men are relieved of responsibility if their cocks are teased is disgusting. Yeah let's all go back to the times when 'she was asking for it' was good enough to get you off the hook in court, there'll be no problems there. It's the same mentality that posits that women dressed in revealing clothing want to have sex with you, and it's twisted. As it relates to the Assange case, whether or not he did it is not really the point any more. Does anyone really think British police are surrounding every inch of the Ecuadorian embassy 24/7 with threats to invade, the media is running this violent screeching smear campaign that assumes guilt despite no charge being leveled, the US is conducting an investigation inton Assange 'unprecedented both in it's scale and nature', all because of a guy who skipped bail on a sexual assault case? Fuck no. | ||
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Shiragaku
Hong Kong4308 Posts
On August 23 2012 20:49 zalz wrote: The majority people actually believe that. The poll, using various examples (of which a girl willingly going into your bed naked, then changing her mind was the most extreme), showed how people increasingly became fine with the notion of forced sex. By the end I think it was something like 70/30 in favor of the girl being to blame for any rape that takes place. It wasn't in some 3rd world country etither, the UK if I remember correctly. Makes you wonder how much worse it is in other countries that don't even acknowledge that men and women are equal. It makes me sick how so many people can believe that it is ever alright to violate another individual's right over their own body. Shows how long the road still is. I don't always praise the TL community as much as others might, but I'm glad to see that at least the majority here respects a women's personhood. Now that you bring up those statistics, I am not exactly surprised. After my infantile activity on 4chan which was very sexist but something I was able to forgive because it is such an evil place that prides itself on being evil a lot of the time, I moved to reddit like most ex-4chan users. I stayed there for some time but was disgusted by the quality of posting, religious atheism, and sexism. The irony was is that many religious atheists complain how Islam brutally treats its women but it seems like a lot of the community, if not most was okay with being sexist themselves. And the occasional golden female who sides with the sexists is also not helping the cause that women are treated like shit overall on the internet. For example, I once saw a thread on marital rape whether it should be legal or not and I initially expected everyone to say no but my god were there so many people who were saying stuff like "It is a love and sexual contract, if she does not want to have sex, then she should not have gotten married," and then a thread on a 14 year old girl who was raped and was shown little sympathy and then a thread which talked about rapists and although their actions were not condoned, the reddit members seemed to sympathize with the rapists overall. | ||
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