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Tom Cruise
Denmark482 Posts
On August 11 2012 21:04 Erasme wrote: Asking a girl out. God never been so afraid in my life :p well, you could technically say that asking a girl out is selfish because we all know what we really want, guys. + Show Spoiler +  | ||
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S_SienZ
1878 Posts
GG no re. Forever Alone. | ||
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Dosey
United States4505 Posts
On August 11 2012 21:05 Tom Cruise wrote: well, you could technically say that asking a girl out is selfish because we all know what we really want, guys. + Show Spoiler + A sammich? | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
On August 11 2012 21:00 IshinShishi wrote: I think it has to do with the motive for the act, if consciously or sub-consciously you see something to gain from the act then it is an inherently selfish act. Exactly,if you think about it there is ALWAYS something to gain from an action,it might not be in the form of a physical reward,but there is always something you could get out of a situation,unless it's purely coincidental and leaves you no time to think about what you are about to do.Even than you will most likely get something out of the situation but you never spent a thought about it so it can't be classified as selfish. | ||
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xrapture
United States1644 Posts
On August 11 2012 20:48 TheKefka wrote: Some people would consider that the perfect way to go,so yea,it can be out of a selfish motive. The only real courageous deed you could perform that is 100% unselfish is something that is decided and done in a literal split second,something which your instincts and reflexes make you do,like pushing someone that is about to get hit by a car or whatever.You don't actually think about if you are putting yourself in danger,you don't think about the consequences of your act,whether you will get rewarded or not,you just do it. It's still something you've been preconditioned to do your entire life through introspection, media, and society. If you didn't perform this act you know you would feel guilty. You may fear ridicule or scorn. You may have always wanted to die this way or save someone this way. If a gun was held to your head and you were forced to choose between yourself and your dearest family member, I'm sure most people would choose death, but it would be for the same reasons as mentioned above. | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
On August 11 2012 21:09 xrapture wrote: It's still something you've been preconditioned to do your entire life through introspection, media, and society. If you didn't perform this act you know you would feel guilty. You may fear ridicule or scorn. You may have always wanted to die this way or save someone this way. If a gun was held to your head and you were forced to choose between yourself and your dearest family member, I'm sure most people would choose death, but it would be for the same reasons as mentioned above. It's slightly different because the blame you may feel would not be a result of you refusing to help someone in that moment and feeling guilt but the question why you didn't jump to help out of instinct? The other thing you mention is clearly a case of you getting to think about something and so the questions I mentioned before arise. It's pretty interesting stuff on human behavior and way of thinking,I remember I wrote a paper about a similar topic back in high school. On August 11 2012 21:19 Holy_AT wrote: He said courage not moment of stupidity .... A lot of people would argue that unselfish courage=stupidity most of the time. | ||
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Holy_AT
Austria978 Posts
On August 11 2012 14:16 TommyP wrote: Yeah. One time my friends and I were driving around town (the worst side of town) when we were a couple years younger. I had a squirt gun in the back of my car. My friend grabbed it and unloaded a whole clip of water into an african american male of probably 25 years of age in a completely ghetto car just chilling on the side of the road with his window down at 3 am in the morning. Im 99% sure he was a crack dealer because what else are you doing then and there? So he started his car and started following us and then eventually my dumbass friend said turn in here and of course it was a dead end. So we were trapped and he came driving down the dead end and tried to block us in but i pulled the greatest juke maneuver ive ever seen and we escaped without getting hit or shot. I am a wussy too, I dont ever do anything dangerous so this is why it surprised me that I didnt just park the car or stop thinking. He said courage not moment of stupidity .... | ||
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FliedLice
Germany7494 Posts
I asked them WTF they were doing, of course they were all like "It's just fun bro, we were going to give it back to him". Maybe... Maybe not. There were some other occasions where people were out for trouble at night and were looking for a fight... Shit like that pisses me off like nothing else. Even if I dont know any of the conflicting parties you can usually see who the idiots are. A friend of mine once was confronted by some jerks because of absolutely nothing, I tried to kind of de-escalate the situation... They were many though, so we both went home with a black eye rofl. | ||
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IshinShishi
Japan6156 Posts
On August 11 2012 21:15 TheKefka wrote: It's slightly different because the blame you may feel would not be a result of you refusing to help someone in that moment and feeling guilt but the question why you didn't jump to help out of instinct? The other thing you mention is clearly a case of you getting to think about something and so the questions I mentioned before arise. It's pretty interesting stuff on human behavior and way of thinking,I remember I wrote a paper about a similar topic back in high school. It's a very interesting and thought enticing topic, everyone expects people to sacrifice themselves for close family members that they love, to the point where it's become very natural to do it, and yet when it happens, it's called a very courageous act, now, what if someone didn't do it while not only knowing fully well the backlash and scorn he/she would receive from society but caring very much about it, wouldn't that take way more courage?It's so much easier to simply take a bullet and instantly die. There are many things to consider to be able to determine whether an act is courageous or not : what was for it, what was against it? | ||
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Cpt.beefy
Ireland799 Posts
I was 13-14 shy and timid, was getting bullied alot for years not physicial but emotionally. Same guys all the tim , You know Im big, your small, too young to care about feeling and too scaried of there own insecurities to see past there noses. This one guy had been digging me for ages, calling me a crybaby and the like, Eoin (a total ass). So just before PE one day we were all getting ready to play football(soccer...) and he starts throwing stuff at me and egging me on to cry.... I ignore him as best I can and BOOM! Just start shouting, HEY! HEY! Guys! You know the only reason Eoin is here tis' mornin' is 'cos the fucking bakery is closed. Everyone laughs immediately. Eoin shuts up and start threatening me physically. I smile knowing I've just won a first battle. Bullying gradually starts to ease up and I find my joker defense works a treat AND more importantly I gained my first pylon of confidence. It was really a moment of pure, AHHH Fuck THIS! Madness that improved my life for the better. Even started to trade megadrive games with eoin later in school life. Never looked back after that 3 seconds of courage. Good question. | ||
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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
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TerranosaurusWrecks
Canada187 Posts
On August 11 2012 21:44 Cpt.beefy wrote: Good question, I think the most ballsy crazy thing i ever did :if anyone cares: I was 13-14 shy and timid, was getting bullied alot for years not physicial but emotionally. Same guys all the tim , You know Im big, your small, too young to care about feeling and too scaried of there own insecurities to see past there noses. This one guy had been digging me for ages, calling me a crybaby and the like, Eoin (a total ass). So just before PE one day we were all getting ready to play football(soccer...) and he starts throwing stuff at me and egging me on to cry.... I ignore him as best I can and BOOM! Just start shouting, HEY! HEY! Guys! You know the only reason Eoin is here tis' mornin' is 'cos the fucking bakery is closed. Everyone laughs immediately. Eoin shuts up and start threatening me physically. I smile knowing I've just won a first battle. Bullying gradually starts to ease up and I find my joker defense works a treat AND more importantly I gained my first pylon of confidence. It was really a moment of pure, AHHH Fuck THIS! Madness that improved my life for the better. Even started to trade megadrive games with eoin later in school life. Never looked back after that 3 seconds of courage. Good question. aha! sick story | ||
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Cirn9
1117 Posts
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Eventually i got pissed off and just hit the emergency open button on the doors, grabbed one and turfed him out of the bus as it was pulling away from a traffic light, i just looked at the other two and then closed the doors and sat down. They could have pulled me off the bus and kicked the shit out of me, im not big at all. I found it "courageous" for myself at least  They got off at the next stop and said nothing inbetween lol | ||
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DidYuhim
Ukraine1905 Posts
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Kukaracha
France1954 Posts
On August 11 2012 14:15 xrapture wrote: Courage = committing an action with selfish motives-- same as every other action. This pseudo-philosophical thought stems from the half-discovery that any sort of motivation can only stem from within an individual. However, the discourse between selfish and selfless acts operates on another layer. But when people value courage, what they admire is the willpower and the "freedom" of the person in question. It has little to do with the altruistic debate. What you said is mostly a way to comfort yourself into weakness.  I've personally had a few moments of courage : singing the Marseillaise alone in London at the Waterloo station and then in front of the Rosetta stone inside of the British Museum (London is not very well defended, I will have to speak to our president about it), kissing the love of my life by surprise on a starry night, being stuck in an underground train and talking to everyone on the wagon, getting people to know each other (I really don't know what triggered this), standing up for myself against bullies in school (they came into my group of friends daring us to fight them, I said "I will" and got my ass kicked)... nothing crazy, but a few of these things really improved my life. | ||
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bluQ
Germany1724 Posts
So simple as that  no one seems to be brave enough to get rid of that nasty bottle which is harassing everyones feet. | ||
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LOLItsRyann
England551 Posts
On August 11 2012 15:08 Wafflelisk wrote: Every time I hit that find game button (.. only semi-joking  )So true! xD | ||
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mlspmatt
Canada404 Posts
On August 11 2012 14:15 xrapture wrote: Courage = committing an action with selfish motives-- same as every other action. What's wrong with selfishness? Oh I forgot, If you don't live your life trying to make everyone else happy, then you are a bad person. | ||
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D10
Brazil3409 Posts
Relationships with females are the epitome of this situation. | ||
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