EPTSouth Korea plans to resume whaling - Page 5
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fellcrow
United States288 Posts
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MrRicewife
Canada515 Posts
The Japanese hold up signs saying they are weighing whale stomachs, measuring this and that, etc. Now Korean's will be attending this perverse ball? I'm really ashamed to be part of this human race. We treat intelligent creatures/ANCESTORS like a mosquito. It's revolting. On July 06 2012 00:48 aebriol wrote: South Korea can go for it if they want. I see nothing really special about whales ... That's simply because you're ignorant. Whales have intelligence. They communicate. They play. They hunt in packs. They are sophisticated creatures. These aren't mindless cattle that do fuck all. And that's only part of the point. The REASON for doing this is outrageous. If you don't care, maybe you should watch a video of a harpoon vessel firing a torpedo into a whale. Enjoy. | ||
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aebriol
Norway2066 Posts
I see nothing really special about whales ... | ||
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kaisen
United States601 Posts
On July 06 2012 00:46 MrRicewife wrote: Really pathetic as a country to succumb to this shit. The only reason I don't hang my head in shame on behalf of Canada for club sealing is because their population is out of control so it must be done. Even then, it's a difficult situation. And at least Canada doesn't say it's for 'research'. This infuriates me so much. The Japanese hold up signs saying they are weighing whale stomachs, measuring this and that, etc. Now Korean's will be attending this perverse ball? I'm really ashamed to be part of this human race. We treat intelligent creatures/ANCESTORS like a mosquito. It's revolting. Minke whale population is out of control surrounding korean seas. | ||
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AngryFarmer
United States560 Posts
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kaisen
United States601 Posts
On July 06 2012 00:50 AngryFarmer wrote: Well I really gotta go to SK and try some. It's mean but I've always wanted to try whale meat.. It tastes like really salty tuna meat. | ||
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Bleak
Turkey3059 Posts
On July 05 2012 21:27 BlackJack wrote: Could say the same about any carnivore/omnivore. The only difference is that any other predator would gladly hunt whales into extinction while humans have voluntarily ending whaling in most countries for the sake of the whales. I don't even know from where to begin with...First of all other species kill and eat because they have to for their survival, and only enough to keep them alive. We on the other hand, humans, fucking industrialize the killing process and turn the whole thing into a factory. Kill for more than we can consume, kill for "scientific" purpose, kill for research.....These are other ulterior motives not connected to the survival of us. This is just because humans want to kill for some reason and they do it. If you are starving and you kill a rabbit to eat you are a carnivore. If you organize hunting parties to systematically slaughter species after species for your benefits other than immediate survival, you are disgusting. | ||
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fellcrow
United States288 Posts
Why aren't talking about Korean women. lol | ||
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CaF-Lunar
Germany126 Posts
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Scaramanga
Australia8090 Posts
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Mstring
Australia510 Posts
On July 06 2012 00:25 CubEdIn wrote: Hypothetically speaking, if killing off whales can help with cancer research, they're better off being hunted for that than having them swim about minding their own business. This is what he means. they're better off being hunted How on earth is a whale better of being hunted rather than swimming around minding their own business? Also, while I do get the whole "killing stuff is bad" thing, how is this any different than all the other animals we're slaughtering daily. So they're endangered, big whoop, cows and chicken would be endangered too if we wouldn't breed them for food. It's no different. Eating a burger will seriously impact your credibility if you're chanting "save the whales". XD | ||
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AngryFarmer
United States560 Posts
Where did you get the chance to taste it? | ||
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kaisen
United States601 Posts
On July 06 2012 01:11 AngryFarmer wrote: Where did you get the chance to taste it? In japan. It cost me about 20-30,000 yen for a portion. | ||
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Turquoise
Turkey145 Posts
On July 06 2012 01:13 kaisen wrote: In japan. It cost me about 20-30,000 yen for a portion. Dang, that is pricey O_O | ||
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Xenocide_Knight
Korea (South)2625 Posts
On July 06 2012 00:46 MrRicewife wrote: Really pathetic as a country to succumb to this shit. The only reason I don't hang my head in shame on behalf of Canada for club sealing is because their population is out of control so it must be done. Even then, it's a difficult situation. And at least Canada doesn't say it's for 'research'. This infuriates me so much. The Japanese hold up signs saying they are weighing whale stomachs, measuring this and that, etc. Now Korean's will be attending this perverse ball? I'm really ashamed to be part of this human race. We treat intelligent creatures/ANCESTORS like a mosquito. It's revolting. That's simply because you're ignorant. Whales have intelligence. They communicate. They play. They hunt in packs. They are sophisticated creatures. These aren't mindless cattle that do fuck all. And that's only part of the point. The REASON for doing this is outrageous. If you don't care, maybe you should watch a video of a harpoon vessel firing a torpedo into a whale. Enjoy. I stand by that if as a species, they can't communicate to us enough to stop us from hunting them, or make any defense for themselves, I have no problem consuming them. You know what's kinda sad? That people have to lie about their reasons for hunting their own animals. Btw, have you seem animals killing each other? Not just like discovery channel stuff but some real prey/predator hunting. I have never seen anything more vicious or gory than animals hunting. I've seen those documentaries "Oh look at this poor cow, look at this poor whale". Doesn't phase me in the slightest compared to what happens in nature. Oh we shot a whale? My friend had a snapping turtle that he fed live mice. That literally made me feel sick. And I've seen some messed up stuff in movies and been fine. Point of the matter is, I don't care about whales because even in a first world country, I have bigger things to worry about than the survival of some animal that will never affect me whatsoever. And if you want people like me to care, you should probably 1. be more polite about making your defense and 2. link us the video that will make us care. On July 06 2012 01:06 Mstring wrote:How on earth is a whale better of being hunted rather than swimming around minding their own business? He said if it helps cancer research. No one here is advocating mindless slaughter of any animal. I just don't see why it's such news that a small country on the other side of the globe is hunting animals for resources. | ||
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Mstring
Australia510 Posts
On July 06 2012 01:22 Xenocide_Knight wrote: I stand by that if as a species, they can't communicate to us enough to stop us from hunting them, or make any defense for themselves, I have no problem consuming them. Can't communicate? Screams of agony and blood spilling out doesn't send you a message? Your parents probably can't communicate with me in a more meaningful way than a whale can. Do you have a problem me slaughtering and consuming them? Now that you mention it, there are a few people around here that I can't communicate with. I think it's huntin' time! XD | ||
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Mstring
Australia510 Posts
On July 06 2012 01:22 Xenocide_Knight wrote: He said if it helps cancer research. No one here is advocating mindless slaughter of any animal. I just don't see why it's such news that a small country on the other side of the globe is hunting animals for resources. I know what he said. If it helps cancer research, how does a whale benefit? His statement was that "they" are better off. How is any creature better off being slaughtered rather than not? | ||
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BlitzerSC
Italy8800 Posts
On July 06 2012 01:33 Mstring wrote: I know what he said. If it helps cancer research, how does a whale benefit? His statement was that "they" are better off. How is any creature better off being slaughtered rather than not? Did you realize how many pigs/chickens/cows/horses/etc dies during a day ? Do you really care about them ? | ||
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Mstring
Australia510 Posts
On July 06 2012 01:35 BlitzerSC wrote: Did you realize how many pigs/chickens/cows/horses/etc dies during a day ? Do you really care about them ? Every single one of them. The same care is extended to all humans too; which is why I stand up for animals; because I realise that when we stop killing them we'll all be much, much better off. | ||
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
The thing is, there is no species besides humans that can collectively communicate with another species something like "don't hunt us", though I guess you could consider their distress a form of more primitive communication since they don't speak etc. They cannot make a defense for themselves because humans are simply too powerful. Because we are technologically advanced, there really is no species out there that can successfully mount a defense against humans. We have harpoons and guns and bombs and rockets--there is no species on earth that can just protect itself from that. I understand there's a lot of rudeness but that's just their side so to speak. The degree of gruesomeness is, in my opinion, a moot point unless humans are literally torturing them for as long as possible (though iirc there was that bit about making dolphins suffer so that their meat tastes better). The idea is just that as humans, we have near-total control over whether they thrive or die out completely and should use whatever power we hold over animals judiciously and with discretion. And yeah, it's a trade-off. Is the risk and loss incurred by potentially driving a species to extinction worth whatever amount of potential benefit it can reap humans with regard to cancer? That's a question people have to ask themselves. | ||
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