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On July 05 2012 23:24 Xenocide_Knight wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2012 22:40 Chewbacca. wrote:
Why do we think we need to stop every single species from dying out? Species have been going extinct long before humans ever came along. This is how I feel. Why exactly are we going to such great lengths to save whales? I'm against actively trying to kill off animals just to make them go extinct but if it's just a byproduct of what we do.. What do whales even contribute to human society? Aren't bees also struggling? I'd be more concerned about them. Show nested quote +On July 05 2012 23:22 Valentine wrote:
What sort of difference is there from "scientific whaling" and whaling for other purposes, such as using their products in the market. Not only should we consider the moral issues regarding whaling in general, but also for what benefit is it to kill whales for scientific reasons. Whatever scientific whaling is, it's probably more useful than whatever whales are doing for us as is.
What kind of logic is this?
Do you want whales to cook meal for you or make you breakfast?
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I will just drop some facts because people seem confused.
Commercial whaling is banned by the international whaling commission. Both Japan and South Korea are a part of said commission. There is a loophole which allows for whaling if you do it for "scientific purposes".
The science conducted is basically cutting the whale open and confirming that it still eats fish.
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Stick to playing video games.
Please.
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Look at the bright side, at least this doesn't include the dolphins as well.
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What do you even do with a whale after you catch it?
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On July 06 2012 00:00 SnipedSoul wrote:
What do you even do with a whale after you catch it?
Nothing you cannot do with other stuff. But hey, please stop human greediness if you can.
Tho past studies shown that whales (might) posses high level cognitive capabilities, we still slaughter them. We are to them what nazi were to jews :S
So sad....
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Alright, this means we are going to see more of Sea Shepherd @ Whale Wars <3
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On July 06 2012 00:08 Seph02 wrote:
Alright, this means we are going to see more of Sea Shepherd @ Whale Wars <3
LMFAO, I dare sea shepherd to invade Korean waters.
Korean special forces will board that ship like what they did to those silly somali pirates.
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I think it's hilarious how people are spewing so much vitrol and hate with out a shred of actual scientific knowledge about what's actually going on. If you actually Know, and have hard data on population, rate of kills, affects of environmental changes and the rate of births, then I'm all with you, but until then get a grip and stop acting like a 2 year old.
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Good thing. Then we can watch more paul watson. So I can laugh at the show. Those people on that boat are so funny.
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Pandemona
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Very interesting, anyone know what the sceince is they are going to use? I mean, what else is there to know about whales? Or they trying to use them for things?
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On July 06 2012 00:20 Pandemona wrote:
Very interesting, anyone know what the sceince is they are going to use? I mean, what else is there to know about whales? Or they trying to use them for things?
I believe that much of the scientific work being done by Korea & Japan is to determine if the flavour of whale meat has remained constant over time or if it has changed, for better or worse, due to environmental factors such as climate change or ocean acidification.
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Pandemona
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On July 06 2012 00:21 kaisen wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2012 00:20 Pandemona wrote:
Very interesting, anyone know what the sceince is they are going to use? I mean, what else is there to know about whales? Or they trying to use them for things? I believe that much of the scientific work being done by Korea & Japan is to determine if the flavour of whale meat has remained constant over time or if it has changed, for better or worse, due to environmental factors such as climate change or ocean acidification.
Troll...
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On July 06 2012 00:21 kaisen wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2012 00:20 Pandemona wrote:
Very interesting, anyone know what the sceince is they are going to use? I mean, what else is there to know about whales? Or they trying to use them for things? I believe that much of the scientific work being done by Korea & Japan is to determine if the flavour of whale meat has remained constant over time or if it has changed, for better or worse, due to environmental factors such as climate change or ocean acidification.
Or to determine if the mercury level found in the whales is above or not the safety level for human consumption 
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Yeah the thing is that japan is doing the same for scientific purposes but it's really hunting.
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On July 05 2012 23:33 CaF-Lunar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2012 23:24 Xenocide_Knight wrote:On July 05 2012 22:40 Chewbacca. wrote:
Why do we think we need to stop every single species from dying out? Species have been going extinct long before humans ever came along. This is how I feel. Why exactly are we going to such great lengths to save whales? I'm against actively trying to kill off animals just to make them go extinct but if it's just a byproduct of what we do.. What do whales even contribute to human society? Aren't bees also struggling? I'd be more concerned about them. On July 05 2012 23:22 Valentine wrote:
What sort of difference is there from "scientific whaling" and whaling for other purposes, such as using their products in the market. Not only should we consider the moral issues regarding whaling in general, but also for what benefit is it to kill whales for scientific reasons. Whatever scientific whaling is, it's probably more useful than whatever whales are doing for us as is. What kind of logic is this? Do you want whales to cook meal for you or make you breakfast?
Hypothetically speaking, if killing off whales can help with cancer research, they're better off being hunted for that than having them swim about minding their own business. This is what he means.
Also, while I do get the whole "killing stuff is bad" thing, how is this any different than all the other animals we're slaughtering daily. So they're endangered, big whoop, cows and chicken would be endangered too if we wouldn't breed them for food.
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On July 05 2012 22:58 bonifaceviii wrote:
As long as they use the whole animal, keep their whaling sustainable by use of quotas and restrict it to certain species, I have no problem with it.
That's what I was thinking too.
On July 05 2012 23:24 Xenocide_Knight wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2012 22:40 Chewbacca. wrote:
Why do we think we need to stop every single species from dying out? Species have been going extinct long before humans ever came along. This is how I feel. Why exactly are we going to such great lengths to save whales? I'm against actively trying to kill off animals just to make them go extinct but if it's just a byproduct of what we do.. What do whales even contribute to human society? Aren't bees also struggling? I'd be more concerned about them. Whatever scientific whaling is, it's probably more useful than whatever whales are doing for us as is.
I guess it is because we are not sure what the consequences would be. Maybe it will effect the ecosystem heavily, maybe we will discover they could be useful for medical purposes or maybe just so the generations after us are not pisses at us because they would also like to hunt and eat them after reading that they are delicious.
Personally I would love to try Dodo too.
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Pandemona
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On July 06 2012 00:25 CubEdIn wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2012 23:33 CaF-Lunar wrote:On July 05 2012 23:24 Xenocide_Knight wrote:On July 05 2012 22:40 Chewbacca. wrote:
Why do we think we need to stop every single species from dying out? Species have been going extinct long before humans ever came along. This is how I feel. Why exactly are we going to such great lengths to save whales? I'm against actively trying to kill off animals just to make them go extinct but if it's just a byproduct of what we do.. What do whales even contribute to human society? Aren't bees also struggling? I'd be more concerned about them. On July 05 2012 23:22 Valentine wrote:
What sort of difference is there from "scientific whaling" and whaling for other purposes, such as using their products in the market. Not only should we consider the moral issues regarding whaling in general, but also for what benefit is it to kill whales for scientific reasons. Whatever scientific whaling is, it's probably more useful than whatever whales are doing for us as is. What kind of logic is this? Do you want whales to cook meal for you or make you breakfast? Hypothetically speaking, if killing off whales can help with cancer research, they're better off being hunted for that than having them swim about minding their own business. This is what he means. Also, while I do get the whole "killing stuff is bad" thing, how is this any different than all the other animals we're slaughtering daily. So they're endangered, big whoop, cows and chicken would be endangered too if we wouldn't breed them for food.
Wow a sensible response in a thread of trolls. Thank you!
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On July 05 2012 20:42 Bleak wrote:
Human is a disgusting species.
We are the chosen specie. All other species exist to be a servant of humans or as a food source.
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On July 06 2012 00:40 kaisen wrote:We are the chosen specie. All other species exist to be a servant of humans or as a food source.
Wait for "Planet of Apes I" installment
Now seriously, someone tell me a good reason (or more) why whaling is a good thing? Also keep in mind that we are dealing with "possibly" self-aware intelligent specie.
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