On July 05 2012 21:28 Hnnngg wrote: Finally someone decides to take a stand against those douchebag whales.
I strongly agree, i'm so tired of getting bullied by whales all the time. I want to eat nice whale ramen and i want my girl to have cosmetics made of extinct animals so she can have expensive stuff to look like a fine slut.
On July 05 2012 21:42 theBALLS wrote: What makes this worse than eating chicken if they don't hunt to the point of extinction?
Well there's a few differences . First and foremost many types of whales are a protected species , also they're wild animals so hunting them is very different than farming chickens who're domesticated animals.
On July 05 2012 21:42 theBALLS wrote: What makes this worse than eating chicken if they don't hunt to the point of extinction?
Well, its the "hypocrisy" we teach ourselves, we can eat chicken or pig whole day, but because of whale meat being so distant for us we are allowed to make 3rd party judgements on this matter. Same goes for eating dogs or other animals we didnt't pigeonholed in our minds as "food".
I'm not so much appalled by the fact that they want to resume whaling but by the fact that they are trying to bullshit their way out of getting condemned for it by claiming it was for scientific purposes.
Obviously, I also oppose Japan and Iceland's commercial whaling as they're using the same excuse.
I can't believe you guys are joking about this, I mean seriously?
This is a serious thing and its pretty disgusting that your making fun of an issue that we have tried to fix out for a long time. I'm really angry at what my mainland country is doing, I mean seriously? First they throw evolution out of their textbooks, enforce tiger parenting and now this...
On July 05 2012 21:42 theBALLS wrote: What makes this worse than eating chicken if they don't hunt to the point of extinction?
Well, its the "hypocrisy" we teach ourselves, we can eat chicken or pig whole day, but because of whale meat being so distant for us we are allowed to make 3rd party judgements on this matter. Same goes for eating dogs or other animals we didnt't pigeonholed in our minds as "food".
Understanding the ecosystem is not hypocrisy. When whaling was unrestricted we over killed great whales, leaving orcas with no food, so they killed seals, sea lions, otters, etc which in turn affected everything on the ocean floor.
When you breed and kill a chicken, you are not fucking with the ecosystem for commercial gain. While everything we do has an impact on the planet great or small, from chicken feed to killing whales, wanting to minimize that impact isn't hypocrisy. It's just the opposite of stupidity
On July 05 2012 21:42 theBALLS wrote: What makes this worse than eating chicken if they don't hunt to the point of extinction?
Well, its the "hypocrisy" we teach ourselves, we can eat chicken or pig whole day, but because of whale meat being so distant for us we are allowed to make 3rd party judgements on this matter. Same goes for eating dogs or other animals we didnt't pigeonholed in our minds as "food".
I would say it's rather that we have no infrastructure for the farming of whales and hence there isn't sufficient population regeneration to make it sustainable on a large scale. It's better comparable to hunting larger mammals like elephants and giraffes or something. They are also said to be (supposedly) rather intelligent compared to cows, dogs, cats etc.
Sometimes I just wish the world would fuckin explode so people could see how badly they fucked up things. Fucking money-power addiction, the most harmful addictions are the most morally acceptable and socially rewarded it seems.
On July 05 2012 21:42 theBALLS wrote: What makes this worse than eating chicken if they don't hunt to the point of extinction?
Well, its the "hypocrisy" we teach ourselves, we can eat chicken or pig whole day, but because of whale meat being so distant for us we are allowed to make 3rd party judgements on this matter. Same goes for eating dogs or other animals we didnt't pigeonholed in our minds as "food".
Understanding the ecosystem is not hypocrisy. When whaling was unrestricted we over killed great whales, leaving orcas with no food, so they killed seals, sea lions, otters, etc which in turn affected everything on the ocean floor.
When you breed and kill a chicken, you are not fucking with the ecosystem for commercial gain. While everything we do has an impact on the planet great or small, from chicken feed to killing whales, wanting to minimize that impact isn't hypocrisy. It's just the opposite of stupidity
To be fair. Factory farms are destroying the planet at a much larger rate than the whaling industry is...
The difference is people like eating their meat, yet South Korea's whaling policies don't personally affect their lives, so they can get on their high horses and say that they should stop.
So what you mean to say, is to "minimize impact as long as it doesn't change the way I live"...
Why is it always OUR whales? Surely there's good whales in other waters.
Seriously though, I really don't get this. If they were going to start whaling, why announce it to the world that you're hunting an endangered species for "science"?
On July 05 2012 21:42 theBALLS wrote: What makes this worse than eating chicken if they don't hunt to the point of extinction?
Well, its the "hypocrisy" we teach ourselves, we can eat chicken or pig whole day, but because of whale meat being so distant for us we are allowed to make 3rd party judgements on this matter. Same goes for eating dogs or other animals we didnt't pigeonholed in our minds as "food".
Understanding the ecosystem is not hypocrisy. When whaling was unrestricted we over killed great whales, leaving orcas with no food, so they killed seals, sea lions, otters, etc which in turn affected everything on the ocean floor.
When you breed and kill a chicken, you are not fucking with the ecosystem for commercial gain. While everything we do has an impact on the planet great or small, from chicken feed to killing whales, wanting to minimize that impact isn't hypocrisy. It's just the opposite of stupidity
To be fair. Factory farms are destroying the planet at a much larger rate than the whaling industry is...
The difference is people like eating their meat, yet South Korea's whaling policies don't personally affect their lives, so they can get on their high horses and say that they should stop.
So what you mean to say, is to "minimize impact as long as it doesn't change the way I live"...
It's kind of pointless to cherry pick farming when industry, transportation, power stations, etc destroy the planet even more. The problem is humans and always has been. I still don't see how we arrive at "welp, if you're not gonna eradicate humanity we may as well get back to killing all the whales"
What I mean to say is pretty much exactly what I said "there is no point in hunting whales, it is stupid"
On July 05 2012 22:26 Ruscour wrote: Why is it always OUR whales? Surely there's good whales in other waters.
Seriously though, I really don't get this. If they were going to start whaling, why announce it to the world that you're hunting an endangered species for "science"?
because that is the legal loophole and how they get away with it? as pm. gillard said, disappointing