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The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-18 18:57:21
July 18 2012 18:54 GMT
#441
On July 19 2012 03:12 S_SienZ wrote:
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On July 19 2012 03:05 hzflank wrote:
On July 19 2012 02:58 S_SienZ wrote:
On June 13 2012 12:14 Xenocryst wrote:
On June 07 2012 11:36 ThePiedPiper wrote:
As long as no raping occurs, im fine with anything. Second that stuff occurs, kick them out


So once one gay man does something wrong they all need to go? You cant just group all homosexuals into a massive group. Knowing several gay people i can say that they are just as varied and as good of people as my straight friends.

The thing is, no straight guy would ever do it.

Applying your logic, just because some dudes won't do anything there is no need for separate bathrooms for each sex.

I understand your concern about generalising, but we're comparing a scenario of no risk vs some risk, however small it is. Relatively speaking one will always be a winner.


No straight man would ever rape boys? That is absolutely not how it works. If a person if going to rape a child then it does not matter if they are straight or gay or if the child is a girl or boy. Hell, there have been a significant number of catholic priests (who are not openly gay) who have molested young boys.

Well smack my ass and call me Judy.

I'll admit a degree of ignorance on the subject. Just kinda assumed that if you wanted dick (no matter the age) you were gay, with the exception of straight prisoners wanting ass out of necessity and it being the next best thing.


Yeah, no. If you want to fuck kids, you're a paedophile, not a hetero- or homo-sexual.

How about just no paedophiles in the scouts.

On June 13 2012 02:54 diophan wrote:
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On June 13 2012 00:53 HellRoxYa wrote:
On June 13 2012 00:50 Klondikebar wrote:
On June 13 2012 00:43 Blurry wrote:
At first I thought this was a good idea. But after thinking about it more I am a little bit against it, simply because it can make things really awkward.

Lets give the following scenario.

You are in a scout troop and one of the other scouts is gay, and starts to like you. It puts you both in a very awkward situation if he makes it clear, which is what moving away from a don't ask don't tell policy would do.

Now while I think that most gay guys stick to other gay guys and don't try to hit on those who are straight, exceptions do occur and that would remove some of the safety from the boy scouts. What if the guy was really weird, what could you do? You couldn't easily kick him out? Most women can attest to how strange and creepy some guys come off, no matter how unintentional.

I think "don't ask don't tell" would be a better policy, and a separate group should be set up for the support of young gay kids. An outright ban on gay kids would be terrible, but I don't think that it should be allowed to be displayed in the boy scouts, just like in the military.

I realize I take the less popular stance on the internet, and I may come off as a bit of a bigot, but believe me, that is far from the truth. I would simply rather have your sexual preference stay out of the boy scouts entirely.


You come off as a bigot because you are a bigot. I always think it's funny that straight dudes automatically assume that gay dudes will be attracted to them. Spoiler Alert: Very few gay men are ever attracted to straight men.


That makes no sense at all?


How many actual lesbians do you know? How many of them are you sexually attracted to?


In fairness...three, and all of them.
ElMeanYo
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1032 Posts
July 18 2012 18:59 GMT
#442
Most of you voting Yes on this one I'm willing to bet are not fathers with young boys in the Scouts. You don't want gay men anywhere near your kids let alone camping out overnight somewhere with them.

User was temp banned for this post.
“The only man who never makes mistakes is the man who never does anything.” ― Theodore Roosevelt
ackbar
Profile Joined March 2011
United States94 Posts
July 18 2012 19:02 GMT
#443
On July 19 2012 03:59 ElMeanYo wrote:
Most of you voting Yes on this one I'm willing to bet are not fathers with young boys in the Scouts. You don't want gay men anywhere near your kids let alone camping out overnight somewhere with them.


You're conflating gay people with pedophiles. They are not one and the same.

Most pedophiles actually identify themselves as being heterosexual.

Id be more concerned about my kid spending time alone in the woods with religious fundamentalists.
ElMeanYo
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1032 Posts
July 18 2012 19:05 GMT
#444
On July 19 2012 04:02 ackbar wrote:
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On July 19 2012 03:59 ElMeanYo wrote:
Most of you voting Yes on this one I'm willing to bet are not fathers with young boys in the Scouts. You don't want gay men anywhere near your kids let alone camping out overnight somewhere with them.


You're conflating gay people with pedophiles. They are not one and the same.

Most pedophiles actually identify themselves as being heterosexual.

Id be more concerned about my kid spending time alone in the woods with religious fundamentalists.


Most pedophiles are gay, at least the ones who go after little boys are. Why take that chance?
“The only man who never makes mistakes is the man who never does anything.” ― Theodore Roosevelt
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
July 18 2012 19:07 GMT
#445
On July 19 2012 04:05 ElMeanYo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 04:02 ackbar wrote:
On July 19 2012 03:59 ElMeanYo wrote:
Most of you voting Yes on this one I'm willing to bet are not fathers with young boys in the Scouts. You don't want gay men anywhere near your kids let alone camping out overnight somewhere with them.


You're conflating gay people with pedophiles. They are not one and the same.

Most pedophiles actually identify themselves as being heterosexual.

Id be more concerned about my kid spending time alone in the woods with religious fundamentalists.


Most pedophiles are gay, at least the ones who go after little boys are. Why take that chance?

Because there's a chance your own kid is gay and you'd want him to be able to join the boyscouts too if he wanted to?

I'm fairly certain that organizations like this don't exactly have a succesful record in avoiding child molestation even while banning gays, so if that's your argument, why let your kid join in the first place.
Taktik
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland680 Posts
July 18 2012 19:09 GMT
#446
Maybe Google should lunch an educational campaign in US so people could tell the difference between gays nad pedophiles?
Mastermyth
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands207 Posts
July 18 2012 19:11 GMT
#447
On July 19 2012 04:05 ElMeanYo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 04:02 ackbar wrote:
On July 19 2012 03:59 ElMeanYo wrote:
Most of you voting Yes on this one I'm willing to bet are not fathers with young boys in the Scouts. You don't want gay men anywhere near your kids let alone camping out overnight somewhere with them.


You're conflating gay people with pedophiles. They are not one and the same.

Most pedophiles actually identify themselves as being heterosexual.

Id be more concerned about my kid spending time alone in the woods with religious fundamentalists.


Most pedophiles are gay, at least the ones who go after little boys are. Why take that chance?


What kind of argument is this? How do you make the link from a gay man to a predatory pedophile? The two are completely unrelated.
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
July 18 2012 19:11 GMT
#448
On July 19 2012 04:05 ElMeanYo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 04:02 ackbar wrote:
On July 19 2012 03:59 ElMeanYo wrote:
Most of you voting Yes on this one I'm willing to bet are not fathers with young boys in the Scouts. You don't want gay men anywhere near your kids let alone camping out overnight somewhere with them.


You're conflating gay people with pedophiles. They are not one and the same.

Most pedophiles actually identify themselves as being heterosexual.

Id be more concerned about my kid spending time alone in the woods with religious fundamentalists.


Most pedophiles are gay, at least the ones who go after little boys are. Why take that chance?

Actually openly gay men are less likely to pray on little boys, because pedophiles try to hide it rather than be open about it like most gay men. Gay!= pedophile
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ackbar
Profile Joined March 2011
United States94 Posts
July 18 2012 19:13 GMT
#449
On July 19 2012 04:05 ElMeanYo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 04:02 ackbar wrote:
On July 19 2012 03:59 ElMeanYo wrote:
Most of you voting Yes on this one I'm willing to bet are not fathers with young boys in the Scouts. You don't want gay men anywhere near your kids let alone camping out overnight somewhere with them.


You're conflating gay people with pedophiles. They are not one and the same.

Most pedophiles actually identify themselves as being heterosexual.

Id be more concerned about my kid spending time alone in the woods with religious fundamentalists.


Most pedophiles are gay, at least the ones who go after little boys are. Why take that chance?


1) This is not true. There is no known correlation between the two.
2) If a pedophile wanted to join the scouts and molest your children, he could simple claim that he's NOT gay. Banning gays does nothing to prevent this from happening.
ArcticRaven
Profile Joined August 2011
France1406 Posts
July 18 2012 19:14 GMT
#450
Well, following that logic.... Men and women shouldn't ever come close to one another, because you know. Welcome to Iran man.
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Mora
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada5235 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-18 19:18:40
July 18 2012 19:15 GMT
#451
This is so stupid. You can't ban homosexuals, you can only ban homosexual activity (which should be banned regardless?)

* How are you supposed to prove someone is gay?
* Since you can't [really] prove one way or the other, you force a closeted DADT policy
* Since you have [closeted] homosexuals in the organization anyway, the question needs to be re-framed

Is there any advantage to the organization or its community to force some members to hide who they are.

And the answer is: of course not. If you like someone's company, you like their company. That does not should not change upon finding out they like the same sex.

This is a non-issue. The policy needs to be inclusive of common sense.
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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-18 19:28:43
July 18 2012 19:26 GMT
#452
are homosexual children not allowed to join the boy scouts?

edit: apparently so. what a stupid rule.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/18/us/boy-scouts-reaffirm-ban-on-gay-members.html
POiNTx
Profile Joined July 2010
Belgium309 Posts
July 18 2012 19:30 GMT
#453
Why is this even an issue? Some people...
Fuck yeah serotonin
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
July 18 2012 19:33 GMT
#454
On July 19 2012 04:14 ArcticRaven wrote:
Well, following that logic.... Men and women shouldn't ever come close to one another, because you know. Welcome to Iran man.


Yeah this pretty much shatters the whole 'I don't want teh gayz near my kids' bullshit.

If you don't want gay men near your sons because in your eyes they are potential child molesters (if, for some stupid reason, you believe that gay men are much more likely to be paedophiles) then you don't want your wife, girlfriend, mother, sister or daughter anywhere near any males because they are all potential rapists.
Why take that risk?
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11110 Posts
July 18 2012 19:36 GMT
#455
I was in boyscouts as a kid and around the age of 12-14 I was pretty homophobic (accurate use of the term instead of its catchall use now). If I had stayed it would have been a culture teaching me to exclude people for childish and arbitrary reasons.
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Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
July 18 2012 19:42 GMT
#456
On July 19 2012 03:59 ElMeanYo wrote:
Most of you voting Yes on this one I'm willing to bet are not fathers with young boys in the Scouts. You don't want gay men anywhere near your kids let alone camping out overnight somewhere with them.

User was temp banned for this post.


Just going to say, i was a scout for 12 years, and my father (a boy scout leader himself) looked over my shoulder and called you a nasty name, and said that sexual preference has nothing to do with being a pedophile or not, and that he is much more concerned with if the leader is capable of dealing with emergency that can happen while camping out than the leaders sexual preference.
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Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
July 18 2012 21:30 GMT
#457
On July 19 2012 04:05 ElMeanYo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 04:02 ackbar wrote:
On July 19 2012 03:59 ElMeanYo wrote:
Most of you voting Yes on this one I'm willing to bet are not fathers with young boys in the Scouts. You don't want gay men anywhere near your kids let alone camping out overnight somewhere with them.


You're conflating gay people with pedophiles. They are not one and the same.

Most pedophiles actually identify themselves as being heterosexual.

Id be more concerned about my kid spending time alone in the woods with religious fundamentalists.


Most pedophiles are gay, at least the ones who go after little boys are. Why take that chance?

From what I understand, pedophiles are into children regardless of their gender. Children are kind of androgenous before puberty, and that's how pedophiles like them. Therefore, "gay pedophiles" only makes sense if you're talking about people who are both attracted to adults of the same sex, AND pedophiles; also, the notion that most pedophiles are gay is ignorant at best or deliberate misinformation at worst, because pedophilia is not statistically more likely among homosexuals than it is among heterosexuals.

If your worry is about pedophiles and not wanting to take chances, then, just keep your children at home. Simply keeping them away from homosexuals doesn't make them any safer from pedophiles.
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Lumi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1616 Posts
July 18 2012 21:36 GMT
#458
On July 19 2012 03:59 ElMeanYo wrote:
Most of you voting Yes on this one I'm willing to bet are not fathers with young boys in the Scouts. You don't want gay men anywhere near your kids let alone camping out overnight somewhere with them.

User was temp banned for this post.


I have never been happier about a TL ban or reprimanding than I am right now :D
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Scurvy
Profile Joined March 2012
United States117 Posts
July 18 2012 22:16 GMT
#459
All I know is this, if I have a son, he will not be a cub scout/boy scout until gays are allowed.
With it or on it.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-27 23:18:01
July 27 2012 23:16 GMT
#460
On July 19 2012 03:59 ElMeanYo wrote:
Most of you voting Yes on this one I'm willing to bet are not fathers with young boys in the Scouts. You don't want gay men anywhere near your kids let alone camping out overnight somewhere with them.

User was temp banned for this post.

As it turns out, most of the people in this reddit link do
parkvader98 453 points 7 hours ago
I am a member of troop 12 and I had been going to Winton for four years, and each and every time, Tim was always our troops favorite counselor, I seems to me that it is no coincidence , as is supposedly was, I support the other counselor's decisions to leave, and i dearly hope that you find a new job. Thank you Tim, for the years of joy you have brought our troop.

Boy Scouts of America officials in California have fired an openly gay man from his job as a merit badge instructor, claiming that he failed to adhere to uniform requirements and standards for appropriate dress for the summer camp, Camp Winton, located in Amador County.

Source

I suppose you can read it for yourself. If you truly think that this man is a heinous individual, corrupting youth, then go on believing it. But to me it comes across as honest and reaffirming that sexual orientation is no more indicative of morality than race or where you are from.
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