EPTOh and I hope Romney gets asked about his tax returns. I'm really curious about those still especially after Reid's seemingly unfounded accusations. The GOP could have destroyed him outright but they're still holding those returns back.
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Mazer
Canada1086 Posts
Oh and I hope Romney gets asked about his tax returns. I'm really curious about those still especially after Reid's seemingly unfounded accusations. The GOP could have destroyed him outright but they're still holding those returns back. | ||
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screamingpalm
United States1527 Posts
Conservatives know that Romney was pro-abortion for a long time before he first ran for the presidency in 2007, at which time he "changed his position" because he was now asking for the votes of conservatives. Romney has also supported "gay rights," and as Massachusetts governor, he implemented same-sex marriage by executive fiat. In 2004, the MA Supreme Court ruled that the state's marriage law was unconstitutional -- but the Court did not rule, contrary to what is claimed, that gay marriage must be legalized and that the state constitution contains a "right" to marry. Yet, as soon as the ruling was issued, Romney commanded state agencies, by executive order, to start issuing marriage licenses to homosexual couples. Romney is stridently liberal on fiscal and economic issues. He did not initially support the Bush tax cuts; he has long opposed (and continues to oppose) the flat tax, calling it "a tax cut for fat cats"; he used fee hikes and "loophole-closing measures" to balance the Massachusetts state budget; and when he found items in it which he deemed wasteful or unneccessary, such as $30 million per year for hotel rooms for homeless people, he spent such sums on something else rather than use them to balance the budget. Mitt believes that anthropogenic global warming is real and that humanity must act urgently to stop it. In 2005, he even claimed that a cap-and-tax scheme would be "good for business." Source Where is this guy? I'd totally vote for him lol. Makes me wonder what we'd actually get if he won. Not exactly what his brand is currently advertising though, so can't really rely on hopes that he would regain his conscience. I get the feeling he'll say and do anything to win an election. Has the Dark Side completely taken him, or is there still good in there somewhere? :D | ||
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kmillz
United States1548 Posts
On October 04 2012 06:02 screamingpalm wrote: Source Where is this guy? I'd totally vote for him lol. Makes me wonder what we'd actually get if he won. Not exactly what his brand is currently advertising though, so can't really rely on hopes that he would regain his conscience. I get the feeling he'll say and do anything to win an election. Has the Dark Side completely taken him, or is there still good in there somewhere? :D "I believe that marriage is between a man and a woman. For me, as a Christian, it is also a sacred union. You know, God's in the mix." Aug. 18, 2008 Barack Obama Source 1: http://2012election.procon.org/view.answers.election.php?questionID=1727 "America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better. I therefore intend to oppose the effort to increase America’s debt limit." -- Sen. Barack Obama, March 16, 2006 Source 2: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/apr/29/barack-obama/obama-regrets-2006-vote-against-raising-debt-limit/  Alot of Presidents and candidates change their minds, flip flopping happens alot. Sometimes people get a change of heart but most of the time it is political. | ||
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jdseemoreglass
United States3773 Posts
Edit: That sounds like a good signature line. Very topical. | ||
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kmillz
United States1548 Posts
On October 04 2012 06:22 jdseemoreglass wrote: Political debates are like stock car races. People don't tune in to see who wins, they tune in to see a wreck. I want to hear both of their plans for our country, but I'd be lying if I said I don't want to see one of them to fall on their face  | ||
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Zooper31
United States5710 Posts
On October 04 2012 06:22 jdseemoreglass wrote: Political debates are like stock car races. People don't tune in to see who wins, they tune in to see a wreck. Edit: That sounds like a good signature line. Very topical. Couldn't have said it better myself. | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
From David Frum: "Why is the Obama recovery so weak?" "Why is the Obama recovery so weak?" That's what you say. That's your message. You stick to it. And whenever some freelancer on Fox News wants instead to discuss "why is Obama so black?" you put a sock in their mouth. | ||
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farvacola
United States18828 Posts
On October 04 2012 06:43 Defacer wrote: Last post before the debates, I swear. From David Frum: That's what you say. That's your message. You stick to it. And whenever some freelancer on Fox News wants instead to discuss "why is Obama so black?" you put a sock in their mouth. And a white hood over their head...........sorry I couldn't help myself | ||
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JonnyBNoHo
United States6277 Posts
On October 04 2012 06:02 screamingpalm wrote: Source Where is this guy? I'd totally vote for him lol. Makes me wonder what we'd actually get if he won. Not exactly what his brand is currently advertising though, so can't really rely on hopes that he would regain his conscience. I get the feeling he'll say and do anything to win an election. Has the Dark Side completely taken him, or is there still good in there somewhere? :D I think a big difference is MA politics vs. national politics. In MA Republicans have more of a libertarian bent since being a social conservative is a go nowhere proposition. Romney seems to have changed his position on a lot of national issues since running for president. On one hand that's flip-flopish but on the other hand its appropriate since he'll be representing a different constituency. Edit: If Romney loses this election my 'it's never going to happen hope' is that Republicans put up a candidate that's like our old Governor Weld next time. | ||
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Trumpstyle
Sweden114 Posts
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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ey215
United States546 Posts
On October 04 2012 07:14 Trumpstyle wrote: Anyone know where u can watch the debates live tonight? I can't find it and also the debates start in 1 hour and 45min right? I saw a YouTube ad on something I was watching earlier today saying that you'd be able to get live coverage through their streaming services from various news outlets. Also, I don't know if it's limited in access but cspan.org I'm sure will be streaming it. It starts at 9 PM Eastern which is approx 2 hours 40 minutes from now. | ||
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JonnyBNoHo
United States6277 Posts
On October 04 2012 07:19 ey215 wrote: I saw a YouTube ad on something I was watching earlier today saying that you'd be able to get live coverage through their streaming services from various news outlets. Also, I don't know if it's limited in access but cspan.org I'm sure will be streaming it. It starts at 9 PM Eastern which is approx 2 hours 40 minutes from now. Yeah CSPAN should work. http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN/ Huntsman is on it right now (still wish he was the Rep candidate...) | ||
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ey215
United States546 Posts
On October 04 2012 07:23 JonnyBNoHo wrote: Yeah CSPAN should work. http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN/ Huntsman is on it right now (still wish he was the Rep candidate...) I haven't decided where to watch yet. I know Politico goes on the air at 8 PM. Breitbart TV is doing live pre/post coverage from the "Spin Room" which is fairly entertaining. Ustream has links on the front page including PBS. YouTube's streaming page that apparently will have ABC and WSJ. | ||
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Praetorial
United States4241 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/2f9Yg.png) drinking ourselves silly I'm doing this with water, y'all adults can drink irresponsibly | ||
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blomsterjohn
Norway463 Posts
http://www.youtube.com/user/politics/elections2012 | ||
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ey215
United States546 Posts
On October 04 2012 07:35 blomsterjohn wrote: You can stream the whole thing of youtube, with your own choice of commentary http://www.youtube.com/user/politics/elections2012 You couldn't pay me to watch Buzzfeed's commentary, but I may go with Al Jazeera as they're actually my go to for world news. | ||
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NPF
Canada1635 Posts
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Souma
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
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Zooper31
United States5710 Posts
On October 04 2012 08:01 NPF wrote: Muhaha Pizza and popcorn incoming for the debates... Watching on CNN. I want to see xDaunt come back for tonight haven't seen him in a while edit: Top of the page but he hadn't posted for so long edit: can't read. | ||
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