EPTI don't even find it the least bit humorous to suggest this thread or anyone reading it would benefit from listening to Rush Limbaugh or reading his transcript. If he made a point you liked, make it and source it yourself, and be sure it isn't something completely misleading or flat-out false.
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Leporello
United States2845 Posts
I don't even find it the least bit humorous to suggest this thread or anyone reading it would benefit from listening to Rush Limbaugh or reading his transcript. If he made a point you liked, make it and source it yourself, and be sure it isn't something completely misleading or flat-out false. | ||
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Swazi Spring
United States415 Posts
On October 27 2012 02:30 JonnyBNoHo wrote: From the first debate: He made it out to sound like you can take some special offshoring tax deduction that the government could easily strike out. In reality you'd either need a very complicated scheme to figure out what counts as an expense related to shipping a job overseas or a simple one that only counts things like moving expenses (which would raise exactly dick for revenue). Either way you are doing exactly zero to stop businesses from offshoring. The Politifact article was misleading in outlining "loopholes" in the US tax code that encouraged jobs to go overseas. Its not the "US loophole" that creates the incentive, its the foreign country offering a lower tax rate that creates the incentive. I have no idea how Obama plans on dealing with that without creating large unintended consequences. In fact, I don't think he sees it as a genuine issue at all. I think he's just trying to get people to say "GRRRR TAXES UNFAIR! GRRRRR!!!" and get more votes that way. Everything has been very smoke and mirrors with this administration, I'm not surprised that this is no exception. | ||
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Feartheguru
Canada1334 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21685 Posts
On October 27 2012 02:42 Feartheguru wrote: So reading this thread for the past 40 or so pages I have to ask, is Swazi a very elaborate troll to make Republicans look bad? If only. The saddest part is that I believe hes actualy serious :p It does make reading this thread a lot faster tho. so many posts i can skip. | ||
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Swazi Spring
United States415 Posts
On October 27 2012 02:33 Leporello wrote: No, Swazi. Let's fact-check the Magic School Bus books while we're at it. I don't even find it the least bit humorous to suggest this thread or anyone reading it would benefit from listening to Rush Limbaugh or reading his transcript. If he made a point you liked, make it and source it yourself, and be sure it isn't something completely misleading or flat-out false. Following that logic, you liberals can never post anything from Jon Stewart, the Huffington Post, CNN, MSNBC, or any other left-wing source. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On October 27 2012 01:41 nevermindthebollocks wrote: Wow, Fox news is getting in on the act. let's hear it for disobeying direct orders now http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/26/cia-operators-were-denied-request-for-help-during-benghazi-attack-sources-say// i think it's clearer now than ever that they are going to do and say ANYTHING they can to win this. I'm starting to wonder if it is going to be revealed they are behind that anti-Mohammed video that started all of this Yeah, what is Fox News doing? Didn't they get the memo that they're supposed to ignore lies told by democrat presidents and administrations? Well, now we have a pretty good idea as to why Obama did go out and lie for weeks about what happened. Clearly they fucked up by ordering response teams to stand down rather than quell the attack at the consulate. Now the question is why did the Administration give that order and who did it. | ||
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Swazi Spring
United States415 Posts
On October 27 2012 02:42 Feartheguru wrote: So reading this thread for the past 40 or so pages I have to ask, is Swazi a very elaborate troll to make Republicans look bad? What an excellent, rational, and well-sourced post. This has so much to do with the 2012 presidential election and contributes greatly to this thread. Thank you for sharing your thoughts in a respectful manner, I sincerely hope to read more posts from you in the future. | ||
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Leporello
United States2845 Posts
On October 27 2012 02:48 Swazi Spring wrote: Following that logic, you liberals can never post anything from Jon Stewart, the Huffington Post, CNN, MSNBC, or any other left-wing source. What you're suggesting is I post a transcript of the Thom Hartmann show. Or should we all listen to Ed Schulz this morning, because that'll really make for something to focus a discussion on? You're not talking about an op-ed piece. I don't remember anyone posting an entire transcript of a Daily Show episode. You're a crazy person. Make your own points, and make them one at a time. Don't hand us a book of right-wing pre-election talking-points from the mouths of one of our country's most notorious liars who, despite having a talk show, has never once debated somebody noteworthy of different politics. Why would you even think to do that? No one has done anything like that once this thread. Be ashamed. | ||
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naastyOne
491 Posts
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radiatoren
Denmark1907 Posts
On October 27 2012 02:48 Swazi Spring wrote: Following that logic, you liberals can never post anything from Jon Stewart, the Huffington Post, CNN, MSNBC, or any other left-wing source. Only see what you want to see, only hear what you want to hear and you end up with a very different perspective on reality. Liberals posting from Jon Stewart, Huffington Post and MSNBC are likely ignorable too, yes. CNN as liberal biased? I have only heard that from people who find FOX being a stupid left-wing biased media too! | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On October 27 2012 02:44 Gorsameth wrote: If only. The saddest part is that I believe hes actualy serious :p It does make reading this thread a lot faster tho. so many posts i can skip. I think he's actually a sleeper smurf account owned by the TL mods that was activated to provide commentary on politics. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On October 27 2012 02:55 radiatoren wrote: Only see what you want to see, only hear what you want to hear and you end up with a very different perspective on reality. Liberals posting from Jon Stewart, Huffington Post and MSNBC are likely ignorable too, yes. CNN as liberal biased? I have only heard that from people who find FOX being a stupid left-wing biased media too! CNN is very liberal. They just engage in more of the old-school, editorial liberal bias that CBS/NBC/ABC are guilty of rather than the overt MSNBC brand of liberal bias. | ||
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Swazi Spring
United States415 Posts
On October 27 2012 02:52 Leporello wrote: What you're suggesting is I post a transcript of the Thom Hartmann show. Or should we all listen to Ed Schulz this morning, because that'll really make for something to focus a discussion on? You're not talking about an op-ed piece. I don't remember anyone posting an entire transcript of a Daily Show episode. You're a crazy person. Make your own points, and make them one at a time. Don't hand us a book of right-wing pre-election talking-points from the mouths of one of our country's most notorious liars who, despite having a talk show, has never once debated somebody noteworthy of different politics. Why would you even think to do that? No one has done anything like that once this thread. Be ashamed. Most notorious liar? Citation needed indeed. What he is, is the most popular talk show host of all time and has been for decades. Oh really? Is William Shatner not a noteworthy figure? | ||
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revel8
United Kingdom3022 Posts
http://www.oddschecker.com/specials/politics-and-election/us-presidential-election/winner Note that blue means odds getting lower, which means more money is currently going on them. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21685 Posts
On October 27 2012 02:58 Swazi Spring wrote: Most notorious liar? Citation needed indeed. What he is, is the most popular talk show host of all time and has been for decades. Oh really? Is William Shatner not a noteworthy figure? What kind of debate do you have with William Shatner? How to fight klingons in the dirt? How about someone who actually has something to say about a matter of interest to your nation... | ||
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radiatoren
Denmark1907 Posts
On October 27 2012 02:58 xDaunt wrote: CNN is very liberal. They just engage in more of the old-school, editorial liberal bias that CBS/NBC/ABC are guilty of rather than the overt MSNBC brand of liberal bias. Editorial bias as in picking and choosing is not something disqualifying it as a source. While dishonest, it does not affect the value of the news, they actually do bring. I was wondering why he did not bring up CBS/NBC/ABC too while he was at it. | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On October 27 2012 02:55 radiatoren wrote: Only see what you want to see, only hear what you want to hear and you end up with a very different perspective on reality. Liberals posting from Jon Stewart, Huffington Post and MSNBC are likely ignorable too, yes. CNN as liberal biased? I have only heard that from people who find FOX being a stupid left-wing biased media too! Somebody's asleep at the wheel! It's very easy to groupthink decry Fox news and cluster around MSNBC & CNN like they're pinnacles of responsible journalism. And it's just so so hard to spot! Btw, Biden being Biden. 500 trillion dollar tax cut for the rich! Boo! | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21685 Posts
On October 27 2012 03:00 revel8 wrote: All the bookies in the UK seem to still have Obama a heavy favourite to win the election. http://www.oddschecker.com/specials/politics-and-election/us-presidential-election/winner Note that blue means odds getting lower, which means more money is currently going on them. I dont know how right they normaly are but it doesnt mean much to me. As a european almost all our views are heavily favored for Obama. | ||
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sam!zdat
United States5559 Posts
On October 27 2012 02:58 Swazi Spring wrote:Is William Shatner not a noteworthy figure? see, SS, this is why people think you are a troll... | ||
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Swazi Spring
United States415 Posts
On October 27 2012 03:03 Danglars wrote: Somebody's asleep at the wheel! It's very easy to groupthink decry Fox news and cluster around MSNBC & CNN like they're pinnacles of responsible journalism. And it's just so so hard to spot! Btw, Biden being Biden. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMKuQ1NVvsg 500 trillion dollar tax cut for the rich! Boo! I like how people in the audience all stopped clapping and were like "five hundred trillion dollars, what?" | ||
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