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lorkac
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2297 Posts
April 17 2012 07:55 GMT
#601
I used to live in the Philippines. My father has eaten dog. My relatives and my parent's friends have eaten dog. I'm sure that a lot of my classmates at the time had eaten dog. I myself believe that there is nothing wrong with eating dog.

But I would never in my life eat a dog on my own accord. Personal preference--for the same reason I would not have sex with my sister nor would I like the feet of my brother. It just feels weird to me. It's not a best friend deal--it just seems odd.

I've killed/helped kill Pigs, Chickens, Goats, Cow, Fish, etc... Never dog. Maybe if I killed a dog for food I'd feel more comfortable about eating dogs? But that's a subjective opinion.

Objectively there's nothing wrong with eating dog. Not because I say so--but because there's no real difference between eating dogs and eating any other animal. I, for example, hate eating grapefruit. Not for any moral reason, I just don't like grapefruit. Same with dog.
By the truth we are undone. Life is a dream. Tis waking that kills us. He who robs us of our dreams robs us of our life --Orlando: A Biography
Quesadilla
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1814 Posts
April 17 2012 07:57 GMT
#602
I ate this in Korea. Not a single rip was given that day. However, I'm not in a rush to eat it again.
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smokeyhoodoo
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1021 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-17 08:50:17
April 17 2012 08:16 GMT
#603
On April 17 2012 16:43 Waterflow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2012 16:35 Lorken wrote:
A Samoan guy killed and barbecued his pet dog a few years back, I remember the Animal rights people making a huge deal about it on the news and stuff, and the guy's like "I did this all the time back in Samoa" According to the authorities, it's all right to eat your pets if they are killed in a humanely manner. I wholeheartedly agree.


Aren't or weren't Samoans cannibals aswell?

If it's ok to eat pets then i guess it should be ok to eat humans aswell. If they are killed in a humanely manner that is.


There have been tribes that would consume the enemy warriors of another tribe. It really doesn't seem morally wrong tbh, unless the war against the other tribe was unjustified to begin with. But really your analogy is worthless because humans are worth more than animals. There is nothing 'inherent' in that superiority, there is no moral code hardwired into the universe, it is simply an emotional response, which, as said in my previous post, is not irrational. Our morals come from our emotions.
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Waterflow
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1550 Posts
April 17 2012 11:34 GMT
#604
On April 17 2012 17:16 smokeyhoodoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2012 16:43 Waterflow wrote:
On April 17 2012 16:35 Lorken wrote:
A Samoan guy killed and barbecued his pet dog a few years back, I remember the Animal rights people making a huge deal about it on the news and stuff, and the guy's like "I did this all the time back in Samoa" According to the authorities, it's all right to eat your pets if they are killed in a humanely manner. I wholeheartedly agree.


Aren't or weren't Samoans cannibals aswell?

If it's ok to eat pets then i guess it should be ok to eat humans aswell. If they are killed in a humanely manner that is.


There have been tribes that would consume the enemy warriors of another tribe. It really doesn't seem morally wrong tbh, unless the war against the other tribe was unjustified to begin with. But really your analogy is worthless because humans are worth more than animals. There is nothing 'inherent' in that superiority, there is no moral code hardwired into the universe, it is simply an emotional response, which, as said in my previous post, is not irrational. Our morals come from our emotions.


To me my dog is much more worth than some unknown guy on the internet and alot of other people aswell.
Nazarid
Profile Joined February 2010
United States445 Posts
April 17 2012 11:37 GMT
#605
If I was hungry, I would eat anything if i thought it would give me nutritional value.
Randomize the world, and Life shall be given.
AUFKLARUNG
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany245 Posts
April 17 2012 12:21 GMT
#606
Simple solution:

Does a country/society want to eat dogs?

Yes -> Enforce humane breeding and killing of dogs just like any other meats (poultry, cattle, etc.)
No -> Make it illegal.
Rassy
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-17 13:41:14
April 17 2012 13:38 GMT
#607
Are you ok with the consumption of dog meat? YES
Would you ever eat dogmeat yourself? NO

Dogmeat is realy no different then the meat of anny other mammal (excluding humans..) so i dont see why people should not eat it (besides for beeing vegetarian)
That said;
while i do eat meat now and then,i would never eat dogmeat or the meat of a few other mammals like cats rats etc m(besides in survival situations)
Not sure why but it somehow just feels weird to me, guess its cultural.
Gajarell
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany29 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-17 15:02:52
April 17 2012 14:56 GMT
#608
Would eat dog meat.

Would also eat human meat, although i rather try to avoid it.
Un bon mot ne prouve rien. - Voltaire
JiPrime
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada688 Posts
April 17 2012 18:56 GMT
#609
If it tasted good and safe, then I'm fine with it.
But don't touch my dog.
KangaRuthless
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States304 Posts
April 17 2012 19:23 GMT
#610
This is one of those questions I wouldn't like to think about. I suppose meat is meat and it doesn't matter where it comes from, as long as it serves some form of nutrition. However, I wouldn't go out of my way to eat dog meat. Something about raising dogs and then thinking about eating dogs; it's just not a mental connection that I'd like to have.
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Blacktion
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom1148 Posts
April 17 2012 19:44 GMT
#611
Why not, meat is meat.
I dont really understand people not eating meat because the animal is "cute"
I cooked rabbit for dinner for a girl i was seeing a while ago, she loved it right until she said "ive never had this before what is it?" She almost killed me when she found out id fed her rabbit.
I really didnt think it was that much of a big deal. Funny though.
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JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-17 19:54:45
April 17 2012 19:54 GMT
#612
I'm personally more willing to eat something that looked cute in life than something that looked creepy or was dangerous. Call me strange, but if I'm not willing to touch an animal alive, I'm not that interested in eating it under normal circumstances. Ass backwards, maybe, but, as an example, I'd rather eat a cute little lamb or rabbit than a rattlesnake.
KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-17 19:56:53
April 17 2012 19:56 GMT
#613
Dogs are just another animal. Just because they happen to be pets in a lot of places doesn't mean they should suddenly be off limits for eating. Would I ever eat dog? Probably not, because I see them as pets, but I don't have any problem with other people doing so. I mean, so long as they don't grab other people's pets and eat them, obviously.

On April 18 2012 04:44 Blacktion wrote:
Why not, meat is meat.
I dont really understand people not eating meat because the animal is "cute"
I cooked rabbit for dinner for a girl i was seeing a while ago, she loved it right until she said "ive never had this before what is it?" She almost killed me when she found out id fed her rabbit.
I really didnt think it was that much of a big deal. Funny though.


How is rabbit? I've always been curious to try.
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Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
April 17 2012 20:11 GMT
#614
I don't see anything wrong with eating dogs. I'm willing to try dog meat
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Knighthawkbro
Profile Joined August 2011
United States183 Posts
April 17 2012 20:17 GMT
#615
On April 18 2012 04:56 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
Dogs are just another animal. Just because they happen to be pets in a lot of places doesn't mean they should suddenly be off limits for eating. Would I ever eat dog? Probably not, because I see them as pets, but I don't have any problem with other people doing so. I mean, so long as they don't grab other people's pets and eat them, obviously.

Show nested quote +
On April 18 2012 04:44 Blacktion wrote:
Why not, meat is meat.
I dont really understand people not eating meat because the animal is "cute"
I cooked rabbit for dinner for a girl i was seeing a while ago, she loved it right until she said "ive never had this before what is it?" She almost killed me when she found out id fed her rabbit.
I really didnt think it was that much of a big deal. Funny though.


How is rabbit? I've always been curious to try.


Rabbit is tasty as shit, very reluctant a couple weeks ago when I tried it, but my god the flavor.
"I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately." -George Carlin
ancientmariner
Profile Joined November 2011
116 Posts
April 17 2012 20:24 GMT
#616
If I look at it from a purely logical standpoint, I would be fine with eating it, as dogs are animals like pigs or cows which I do eat. I still would not eat dog meat or even rabbit, because dogs and rabbits are more like cute pets (which I guess is a cultural thing). Then again, pigs are amazing and smart animals, so thinking about it saying I only eat certain kinds of meat is having unjustified double standards.

I guess the only solution is to continue not to think about it too much, or to stop eating meat entirely... (or to start considering to eat dog meat as well).
radscorpion9
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada2252 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-17 20:58:21
April 17 2012 20:57 GMT
#617
On April 18 2012 05:24 ancientmariner wrote:
If I look at it from a purely logical standpoint, I would be fine with eating it, as dogs are animals like pigs or cows which I do eat. I still would not eat dog meat or even rabbit, because dogs and rabbits are more like cute pets (which I guess is a cultural thing). Then again, pigs are amazing and smart animals, so thinking about it saying I only eat certain kinds of meat is having unjustified double standards.

I guess the only solution is to continue not to think about it too much, or to stop eating meat entirely... (or to start considering to eat dog meat as well).


But pigs aren't really used as cute pets, so I think your standards are still fine. Being an amazing or smart animal is a different standard - although I think intelligence is definitely one that's worth adding, if its any determinant of the amount of awareness and pain animals may feel while being killed (even humanely).

I'm pretty sure that's the reason so many dislike the seal hunt too. They're "cute" - but again that's just a cultural standard, to have a psychological aversion towards eating harmless, pet-like animals, and definitely shouldn't be used as a substantial argument (not that you are).

I think the real solution is to switch to lab-grown meat, which should be coming up just around the corner! Either that or find a way to flavour vegetarian meals, as well as modifying their texture to taste more like meat (i.e. veggie-burgers). Then, hopefully, it would be indistinguishable. Just as long as that flavouring passes the safety test of course.
KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
April 17 2012 21:39 GMT
#618
On April 18 2012 05:57 radscorpion9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2012 05:24 ancientmariner wrote:
If I look at it from a purely logical standpoint, I would be fine with eating it, as dogs are animals like pigs or cows which I do eat. I still would not eat dog meat or even rabbit, because dogs and rabbits are more like cute pets (which I guess is a cultural thing). Then again, pigs are amazing and smart animals, so thinking about it saying I only eat certain kinds of meat is having unjustified double standards.

I guess the only solution is to continue not to think about it too much, or to stop eating meat entirely... (or to start considering to eat dog meat as well).


But pigs aren't really used as cute pets, so I think your standards are still fine.


I beg to differ!

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Pulselol
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada1628 Posts
April 17 2012 21:43 GMT
#619
Why would anybody be ashamed of eating dog meat? First off, we (as humans) didn't make it to the top of the food chain by being picky eaters. Second of all, last time I checked, dogs are just as much of an animal as the average cow/goat/chicken/pig, and these are animals that people consider to be food.

I've eaten dog meat before, and although I didn't like it, I can say it was quite... the experience.
The_LiNk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada863 Posts
April 17 2012 21:51 GMT
#620
On April 17 2012 21:21 AUFKLARUNG wrote:
Simple solution:

Does a country/society want to eat dogs?

Yes -> Enforce humane breeding and killing of dogs just like any other meats (poultry, cattle, etc.)
No -> Make it illegal.


Kind of redundant to make a law against something nobody does. It's like making an issue out of a non issue.
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