Shooting of Trayvon Martin - Page 499

On July 17 2013 06:39 Sabu113 wrote:


I don't think African Americans can think about this trial rationally. I try and persuade some of my friends but they can't get over the idea of being Martin being profiled in the first place. They can't move from that spot so they won't then acknowledge that Martin probably started the altercation, etc.

On July 17 2013 06:40 killa_robot wrote:


It's okay to just say black people.

On July 17 2013 06:30 DeepElemBlues wrote:
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/nancy-grace-george-zimmerman-going-back-to-life-of-driving-through-taco-bell-eating-churros/

Nancy Grace, you've outdone yourself again.

First screaming "fucking coon" repeatedly over the course of the trial pretty much every time you were on the screen (because, you know, Nancy thinks that's what Zimmerman said, so it's okay to repeat it over and over), and now a racist insult against Zimmerman. If someone put Nancy out of her misery and I was on the jury, I'd vote to give him a medal.

On July 17 2013 06:30 DeepElemBlues wrote:
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/nancy-grace-george-zimmerman-going-back-to-life-of-driving-through-taco-bell-eating-churros/

Nancy Grace, you've outdone yourself again.

First screaming "fucking coon" repeatedly over the course of the trial pretty much every time you were on the screen (because, you know, Nancy thinks that's what Zimmerman said, so it's okay to repeat it over and over), and now a racist insult against Zimmerman. If someone put Nancy out of her misery and I was on the jury, I'd vote to give him a medal.

On July 17 2013 06:39 Sabu113 wrote:


I don't think African Americans can think about this trial rationally. I try and persuade some of my friends but they can't get over the idea of being Martin being profiled in the first place. They can't move from that spot so they won't then acknowledge that Martin probably started the altercation, etc.

On July 17 2013 06:51 dAPhREAk wrote:

this actually really pisses me off; they stopped selling churros in California. wtf taco bell? why does florida get them?

On July 17 2013 06:39 Sabu113 wrote:


I don't think African Americans can think about this trial rationally. I try and persuade some of my friends but they can't get over the idea of being Martin being profiled in the first place. They can't move from that spot so they won't then acknowledge that Martin probably started the altercation, etc.

On July 17 2013 06:53 Jisall wrote:


Go to El Pollo Loco, they got Churro's

On July 17 2013 06:57 kmillz wrote:


I tried to have a rational conversation with a black guy about my age at a bar once. This was before it went to trial and he was the one who brought it up. My only issue with his line of thinking was that he insisted that he racially profiled Martin. He was even willing to agree that it was self-defense, which was pretty shocking, just that he was positive that he profiled Martin because he was black. Interestingly at that point in time I wasn't even sure it was self-defense, I was just confident it wasn't about race. I thought that it was arguable whether or not he was acting in self-defense, but definitely not about race. Now that the verdict has been reached and all of the facts have come out, I am now also convinced that it was self-defense.

Fortunately we just agreed to disagree, and that was that. I think it boils down to a group mentality that it would be blasphemous to many of them if one were to deny an alleged case of racism towards someone who is black. They would rather be wrong, but still side with their race, than to risk being an "Uncle Tom" and disliked by their peers.

On July 17 2013 07:29 Rimstalker wrote:
found this in a comment section on boingboing, found it quite good

http://thecriminallawyer.tumblr.com/post/55579281843/youre-not-the-only-one-to-ask-thats-for-sure

On July 17 2013 07:29 Rimstalker wrote:
found this in a comment section on boingboing, found it quite good

http://thecriminallawyer.tumblr.com/post/55579281843/youre-not-the-only-one-to-ask-thats-for-sure

You wanna hear something shocking? I don’t think the prosecutors really believed they had a case.

On July 17 2013 07:44 dotHead wrote:

This is pretty spot on. Read this daPHREAK!

On July 17 2013 07:29 killa_robot wrote:


Some people hate things and believe in them so much they just don't care about facts anymore. I mean, I'm sure most of them thought something like:

1) Black guy killed by white/hispanic guy
2) Black guy's only crime was being black
3) White/hispanic guy probably won't go to jail
4) Trial happens
5) ----Doesn't look up any facts or even pays attention to the trial---
6) Innocent
7) "See, the system failed us again, be outraged people! Demand Justice!"

Sadly many people run purely on emotion, which is basically the entire reason racism is still an issue.

The U.S. Department of Justice on Monday afternoon appealed to civil rights groups and community leaders, nationally and in Sanford, for help investigating whether a federal criminal case might be brought against George Zimmerman for the shooting death of Trayvon Martin, one advocate said.

The DOJ has also set up a public email address to take in tips on its civil rights investigation.

On July 17 2013 07:52 dAPhREAk wrote:

i read it. its an interesting perspective.

this is also misstating the fact that Serino (the lead investigator) wanted to file manslaughter charges. it was the state attorneys office that refused to charge zimmerman.

also, the brouhaha over the grand jury is kind of funny. grand juries only hear what the prosecutor wants them to hear; literally. the defense attorney doesnt get to put his side forward; he isnt even allowed to speak or participate in the grand jury (unless Florida has funky rules). so, its questionable, at best, whether the grand jury would have done anything but indict zimmerman.

The U.S. Department of Justice on Monday afternoon appealed to civil rights groups and community leaders, nationally and in Sanford, for help investigating whether a federal criminal case might be brought against George Zimmerman for the shooting death of Trayvon Martin, one advocate said.

The DOJ has also set up a public email address to take in tips on its civil rights investigation.

Barbara Arnwine, president and executive director the Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights Under Law – who earlier in the day joined calls for federal civil rights charges against Zimmerman, said that later in the afternoon, she joined a U.S. Department of Justice conference call to discuss the prospects.

“They were calling on us to actively refer anyone who had any information,” that might build a case against Zimmerman for either a civil rights violation or a hate crime, Arnwine said. “They said they would very aggressively investigate this case.”

Arnwine said the call was convened at about 3:30 p.m. by Tom Perez, Assistant Attorney General for the Civil Rights Division of the United States Department of Justice, and included representatives from the FBI, and several federal prosecutors, she said. DOJ officials also said they would open a public email address so people could send in tips on the case.

That email address, which is now in operation, is Sanford.florida@usdoj.gov.

In addition to Arnwine’s group, Sherrilyn Ifill, President and Director-Counsel of the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund; Laura Murphy, Washington Chapter head of the ACLU; and several national, Florida and Sanford-based “human relations” groups participated, Arnwine said.

During the call, DOJ officials announced they had set up a way for people to send email tips that could help aid in their investigation. The email address will be operational later this week.

Also Monday, Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. said a speech at the social action luncheon of the Delta Sigma Theta sorority, that he shares concerns about “the tragic, unnecessary shooting death” of Trayvon Martin last year, and he vowed to pursue a federal investigation into the matter, the Washington Post reported.

Holder pledged that the Justice Department would work to “alleviate tensions, address community concerns and promote healing” in response to the case.

On July 17 2013 08:04 dAPhREAk wrote:
DOJ solicits email tips in Zimmerman civil rights probe


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/os-george-zimmerman-doj-investigation,0,4338518.story