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Biff The Understudy
France7913 Posts
On May 03 2012 05:27 corumjhaelen wrote: Sarkozy should remember that in 2007 he was speaking really highly of the Spanish system... Evrybody was speaking highly of Spain. Funny also that the government that sunk Greece was conservative. So if Hollande will sink us because he is a socialist like Zapatero, then... Oh fuck it. | ||
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corumjhaelen
France6884 Posts
On May 03 2012 05:26 Biff The Understudy wrote: I fucking hate this guy but he is a good speaker, have to admit it. Depends on what you call speaker (I'd say not), but he is very good in this kind of exercise obviously. Thank god I hate good speakers with a passion. | ||
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corumjhaelen
France6884 Posts
On May 03 2012 05:28 Biff The Understudy wrote: Evrybody was speaking highly of Spain. Funny also that the government that sunk Greece was conservative. So if Hollande will sink us because he is a socialist like Zapatero, then... Oh fuck it. Exactly. That being said Hollande misses a lot of easy counter argument in my opinion. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France7913 Posts
On May 03 2012 05:28 corumjhaelen wrote: Depends on what you call speaker (I'd say not), but he is very good in this kind of exercise obviously. Thank god I hate good speakers with a passion. Yep. Someone like Mitterand or even Giscard at his best time would absolutely nuke both of them. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France7913 Posts
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Microchaton
France342 Posts
On May 03 2012 05:29 Biff The Understudy wrote: Yep. Someone like Mitterand or even Giscard at his best time would absolutely nuke both of them. Doubt it. They have more gravitas, but that's it. De Gaulle would shit on them, that's for sure :p | ||
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Geiko
France1939 Posts
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corumjhaelen
France6884 Posts
On May 03 2012 05:31 Biff The Understudy wrote: Oh God, Sarkozy on Europe... Does he even realize that if Spain and Italy sink, we sink with them. Let them deal with their debt. That's so stupid. Tha being said he's pushing his 'I have more experience' side pretty smartly. | ||
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VyingsP
France174 Posts
On May 03 2012 05:31 Microchaton wrote: Doubt it. They have more gravitas, but that's it. De Gaulle would shit on them, that's for sure :p Lol, this has turn into a live report thread and now people are saying bw pro would own that tournament : ) | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France7913 Posts
On May 03 2012 05:31 Geiko wrote: Hollande is sinking on the Europe chapter Geiko, try at least to pretend that you are commenting is not completely biaised. See, Sarkozy was better in the first part, but Hollande is doing more than well right now | ||
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corumjhaelen
France6884 Posts
On May 03 2012 05:34 Biff The Understudy wrote: Geiko, try at least to pretend that you are commenting is not completely biaised. See, Sarkozy was better in the first part, but Hollande is doing more than well right now Yep the last minute or so was pretty good I think. | ||
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Weryeery
288 Posts
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Geiko
France1939 Posts
On May 03 2012 05:34 Biff The Understudy wrote: Geiko, try at least to pretend that you are commenting is not completely biaised. See, Sarkozy was better in the first part, but Hollande is doing more than well right now Hollande was better on education, Sarkozy is completely owning on Europe. | ||
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Derez
Netherlands6068 Posts
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Hider
Denmark9405 Posts
On May 03 2012 05:15 Biff The Understudy wrote: That's such a logical fallacy, I'm speechless. I have to pay my taxes anyway, but I could fight to pay less through my opinions and my vote, and support people who want to lower my taxes. Sorry but the government is, as a citizen, my government. The public school are my schools, the hospitals, my hospitals, the police, my police. The police is there to protect me, the hospital to take care of my health if something goes bad, the schools to educate my children. Sorry to still believe in democracy and that the word Republic (Res-publica) are not empty words. Assume this world. I have 20 slaves. You are one of them. I give all the slaves different "benefits". Those who are really lazy/handicaped by nature/doesn't work alot still gets food everyday and can sleep in a bed. Whether this is justified or not is not my question. But lets assume I actually have an election each year. If 11+ slaves agrees to be released I will release them. However for different reasons the slaves dont wanna be released (again the specific reasons on why they do not wanna be released is not up to to debate). However you want to be released, but through this democratic election you can't. Your slave lord (me) gives you the option to different places, but you will always be a slave (just under another lord). My question is: Is this slavery voluntary? | ||
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Geiko
France1939 Posts
On May 03 2012 05:38 Derez wrote: Is there a stream? (nvm, guess its over) http://www.francetv.fr/info/ It's not over yet  | ||
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kwizach
3658 Posts
On May 03 2012 05:39 Hider wrote: Assume this world. I have 20 slaves. You are one of them. I give all the slaves different "benefits". Those who are really lazy/handicaped by nature/doesn't work alot still gets food everyday and can sleep in a bed. Whether this is justified or not is not my question. But lets assume I actually have an election each year. If 11+ slaves agrees to be released I will release them. However for different reasons the slaves dont wanna be released (again the specific reasons on why they do not wanna be released is not up to to debate). However you want to be released, but through this democratic election you can't. Your slave lord (me) gives you the option to different places, but you will always be a slave (just under another lord). My question is: Is this slavery voluntary? Define "slave". As soon as you will have, you'll see the term either does not apply to citizens or loses all its meaning. | ||
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Zyrae
France42 Posts
Do you actually believe him when he corrects numbers from Hollande or just announce things? Just look up the 600 billion debt thingy, Hollande was right, he still said "No, you lie, you lie", and bam, people belive him, because journalists are not allowed to smack his face when he vomits lies, so it looks like he's right. Go take a look at https://twitter.com/#!/LeVeritometre for the veracity of the figures, not wether either of them say it's true. How can you say he is a good speaker? He is a good sophist. Every sentence is embroidered with lies, contempt and mockery. Not sure if I'm more sad or angry that people swallow this stuff and vote... Not saying Hollande would be a good president, but he's by far the lesser evil. | ||
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Dekkers
France315 Posts
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Microchaton
France342 Posts
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