LoL takes #1 E-sport spot in Korea - Page 57

On March 15 2012 08:04 Kazeyonoma wrote:


no not mad, because i don't feel the company who invested money into making the game needs to be the only reason why it's surviving as a 'competitive game', sponsors, and the community fund sc2 because that's the way it worked in bw, and because it's sustainable that way.

and while i'm spreading misinformation about LoL's numbers (and admitted i'm wrong), would you care to prove to me about this 50% ad revenue thing other than speculation?

On March 15 2012 08:13 1sz2sz3sz wrote:

"This is what I know. Yes, you can go over $5k with special dispensation from Blizzard. However, it is policy for them to then require 50% of your ad revenue. I know of several large tournaments that have had to do this. If SHOUTcraft Invitational were to do this, it would mean less money getting into the hands of players, which is completely against what the tournament is all about. It makes no sense for SCI to do this, rather than just run more than one event." - TotalBiscuit

On March 15 2012 08:07 Sandro wrote:
Haha I love how butthurt the bw fans are ITT. Enjoy a game even worse than SC2 taking over Korean Esports.

On March 15 2012 08:19 MaV_gGSC wrote:
So much hate in this thread! Remember we are fighting for esports, not just sc2 alone

On March 15 2012 08:06 taintmachine wrote:


dota is not superficially harder than lol. i would argue that it is harder. you even say that it is harder in the post im quoting. there's more infromation to absorb, the map's design requires mastery of it (many, many more side paths along with the ability to exploit terrain differences), the neutral runes are harder to control, characters vary much more in terms of range, attack animations, attack speeds, etc (which are all more important because of last hitting and denying). bad decisions are punished more immediately in dota than lol. it is easy to use your mana poorly and that can push you out of a lane by itself. teleporting and buying back offer important choices to players that don't really exist in lol. i could go on with things that i feel make dota/dota 2 the harder game.

you don't think difficulty makes for a more competitive game, but i do. i think largely we view competitive activities because of how good a small % of the population can be at something that is otherwise difficult for us. im not saying lol is not competitive enough to be appreciated, but i cannot see how competition and difficulty are separate.

On March 15 2012 07:20 XiGua wrote:

Easy. I have played both games a lot and can give you some comparisons.

In League of Legends we have heroes who don't need mana at all. I feel that this is stupid as shit since it makes the game very hard to balance around items. This leads to making spells the core aspect of a hero (or Champion) which DotA does not have. In DotA, items is so important and not only to get AD/AP or HP. Active items such as blink dagger, force staff, ghost scepter, sheepstick etc. makes it so much more diverse. A normal hero can have up to 10 spells which all will be very useful. In LoL I rarely see spells being used other than the 4 main spells and the two summoner spells.

Juking. In LoL we juke by walking into a bush and then out again. Seriously?
In DotA 2 we have trees EVERYWHERE and high ground vision, night/day + cliffs. Juking becomes a very important part of the game. Just check any "highlight video" for DotA and you'll see juking and one single hero killing 5 others by using utility items and not Lee Sin spamming Q and E to kill everyone. You don't have that in LoL.

Death. Dying is such a big thing in DotA. You lose so much gold that you can lose up to 10 minutes of farm. In League of Legends you keep all the gold, much more forgiving.

Courier and secret shops. To only be able to buy items in base is the cause to the gold and death issue. But with courier and secret shops you can buy items while on lane and save yourself with clutch moves. Ex. run into secret shop with 5 hp buy a blink dagger + tp and blink away into the trees right when SK comes in with a stun and tp away.

These are only a few things in DotA that differs from LoL which makes DotA such a more diverse game. Another example is that almost every hero can carry in LoL by buying 6 Rabadons. LoL...

On March 15 2012 08:19 Laids wrote:
I'm happy another game is becoming a big e-sport, but as a spectator E-sport I have to LoL is one of the worst. Right up there with CS and WoW. I enjoy playing it now and again and it obviously requires a lot of team work at the top, but it's just too much of a mess of shit on a screen for me to enjoy watching it.

On March 15 2012 07:25 Azarkon wrote:
One thing that makes LoL less appealing to me at the pro level is the number of strategies. In LoL the meta-game is stale and while there are a lot of champions, the champions all play the same set roles in a game. In Dota there is variety - you can push all-in, you can roam gank without laning, you can run global teleport strategies, you can turtle farm, you can run tri-lanes and empty lanes, there doesn't have to be a jungler, there doesn't have to be a carry, etc.

Another thing is the range of skills. There are long range skills in LoL as there are in Dota, but in Dota skills have longer range on average, and this leads to less clumping, which makes the game easier to watch.

On March 15 2012 07:34 Payo wrote:

I've played LoL. After 20games in total, i won 17 of them and it was like taking candy from a baby. After that i stopped b'cuz it was just too much of a joke.+It's not even close to being balanced.

On March 15 2012 07:39 Payo wrote:

If you would've never played any RTS game and only played FPS games before Sc2, you'd NEVER ever win 20games in a row, not even from bottom bronze(when i came in Sc2 from CoD stuff, i had maybe 40apm). Well, i've never played any game that would be even close to being similiar to LoL, yet still i managed to win that many games.