LoL takes #1 E-sport spot in Korea - Page 21

On March 14 2012 23:29 .Sic. wrote:
Kotaku fails, it says 200,000 dollars in the original article

On March 14 2012 23:05 BluzMan wrote:
Geez, I'm so unhappy with the way this discussion is going. People try to use strange words like "skill ceiling" (that effectively should mean that you can't get better. Well wtf, there's no such thing) or LoL being "easier" than SC2. Wtf is that, really? It's equally hard to be good at anything provided there's competition. If winning at LoL takes you 6 hours of training per day, it only means that there's noone who practices 10 hours yet.

It's not about being easy or hard. SC2 is not easy compared to SC, SC2 is bad compared to SC. The only thing about those two games is that SC is much more fun to play and watch. And shit like MBS, automine or whatever other 'killer feature' don't mean anything, it's just the badly designed units, badly implemented pathfinding and a bad storyline stripped of 2/3 of the game's races to get more money with "expansions" that never saw the light of day. That in turn limits the influx of new players etc.

LoL's immense playerbase and recent growth proves that it's fun. It's more fun than SC2 to play and recently with the increase of the average skill level among top players it's become rather fun to watch. It's a better game. And please throw away all that bullshit about easiness. V are people wharious activities may have different entry levels (the amount of effort required to feel generally in control), but pushing anything to it's limit is equally hard. Just because pushing something to the limit means working as hard as possible. Progamerso push games to their limits, that easy. And, if anything, a low entry level is a good thing for the game, not bad, because it attracts audiences. Bitching about that is nothing but arrogance.

On March 14 2012 23:12 Xcobidoo wrote:

When it comes to player base, you can't compare a f2p-game with one that costs like 40-50 euro.
Ofc there's not a "skill ceiling" if you dumb it down, you can always micro just a bit better or macro just a tiny bit better. The skill ceiling more refers to the fact that if player X practices for 2 hours/day and player Y practices for 8 hours/day and they are still comparable in skill (provided they have the same potential regarding RTS-games) then yes, there is a pretty low skill ceiling.
Consider Quake where a 75-80% hit rate with railgun is considered amazing, the fact that there is still 20-25% to improve on there means that the skill ceiling is high.

On March 14 2012 23:26 tbrown47 wrote:
Lack of Deny is intuitive? Huh?

On March 14 2012 23:28 Capped wrote:
But the only major differences in HoN/Dota is 1) Creep denies. 2) Loss of gold on death. 1 adds another element to skillful play i agree, yet still not good for spectating. 2 just makes it less forgiving and makes it snowball even more quickly with games lasting longer and faster snowballing, games have the potential to be very boring.

On March 14 2012 23:16 Schwopzi wrote:


So it took me less time to reach the top 2% in starcraft then it did for me to reach the top 10% in LoL. Does this mean LoL has a higher skillceiling?