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LulzSec leader Sabu - FBI Mole

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Deleuze
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom2102 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 12:58:53
March 07 2012 11:52 GMT
#1
This is my first new topic, hopefully it won't go the way of all the other threads with lulzsec in the title...

The world's most notorious computer hacker [Hector Xavier Monsegur, AKA Sabu] has been working as an informer for the FBI for at least the last six months, it emerged on Tuesday, providing information that has helped contribute to the charging of five others, including two Britons, for computer hacking offences.


Full article: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/mar/06/lulzsec-sabu-working-for-us-fbi

So, what are TL's collective thoughts on this? Opinion on lulzsec and other hacking groups is polarised – does this undermine the ‘movement’?

As far as I’ve read, Sabu himself has always warned against hackers revealing too much about themselves to their peers for fear of being shopped out (in fact I recall him say this in his reddit AMA – was this 6 months ago?).

I think it would be difficult for the authorities to describe this as anything short of a major victory – especially as Sabu is a major figure at least in the more public forums.

The article also mentions that there may be a spate of hacks taking retribution for this.

I know very little about the underground hacking community so would appreciate TL’s collective wisdom. I do sympathise with extracting information from private companies and governments to the benefit of the people through illegal means, but I am smart enough to know that a rose tinted view of the rebel hacker sticking it to the corporate ‘man’ is beyond naïve – as indeed evidenced by this news.

EDIT: thansk for links :-

Amusing and informative links from sulliwan:

On March 07 2012 21:11 sulliwan wrote:
A nice list of related information: http://erratasec.blogspot.com/2012/03/notes-on-sabu-arrest.html
Reddit thread: http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/qk612/lulzsec_leader_betrays_all_of_anonymous/

The hilarious bits: http://gawker.com/5890901/anonymous-snitch-tried-and-failed-to-pass-himself-off-as-an-fbi-agent-last-month
http://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/qgahn/recap_the_tale_of_laurelairaziel/


And from Liquid'Drone:

On March 07 2012 21:12 Liquid`Drone wrote:
here's a fun chatlog
it's between sabu and some other ex-affiliated hacker (apparently?) named virus, from august 2011

http://foojutsu.org/pipermail/wikileaks/2011-August/000270.html

pretty long but i've rarely seen anyone be that internet-owned.


Sabu's Reddit AMA (think it's safe to assume that his remark 'Stick to yourselves. If you are in a crew - keep your opsec up 24/7. Friends will try to take you down if they have to' is more of a veiled warning to his friends than complete hypocracy - but that's me giving him the benefit of the doubt:

http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/kpfsp/ama_request_sabu_from_lulsec_this_would_be_amazing/


“An image of thought called philosophy has been formed historically and it effectively stops people from thinking.” ― Gilles Deleuze, Dialogues II
village_idiot
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
2436 Posts
March 07 2012 11:53 GMT
#2
That Anonymous fellow is a troublemaker.
Jakkerr
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2549 Posts
March 07 2012 11:57 GMT
#3
Damn that's pretty big news.
Makes you wonder how much Mole's the FBI actually has if they can even get someone 'inside' in the hacker world.
lisward
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Singapore959 Posts
March 07 2012 12:03 GMT
#4
What they don't know is that the Anon mole is actually a double agent!! Mind blown.
Opinions are like phasers -- everybody ought to have one
aebriol
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway2066 Posts
March 07 2012 12:09 GMT
#5
My opinion?

All those people in those groups are idiots for possibly ruining their future for shit and giggles.
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
March 07 2012 12:10 GMT
#6
On March 07 2012 21:03 lisward wrote:
What they don't know is that the Anon mole is actually a double agent!! Mind blown.


Or a pentuple agent. Those will really mess with your head.
sulliwan
Profile Joined March 2010
85 Posts
March 07 2012 12:11 GMT
#7
A nice list of related information: http://erratasec.blogspot.com/2012/03/notes-on-sabu-arrest.html
Reddit thread: http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/qk612/lulzsec_leader_betrays_all_of_anonymous/

The hilarious bits: http://gawker.com/5890901/anonymous-snitch-tried-and-failed-to-pass-himself-off-as-an-fbi-agent-last-month
http://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/qgahn/recap_the_tale_of_laurelairaziel/
I am a little teapot!
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28751 Posts
March 07 2012 12:12 GMT
#8
here's a fun chatlog
it's between sabu and some other ex-affiliated hacker (apparently?) named virus, from august 2011

http://foojutsu.org/pipermail/wikileaks/2011-August/000270.html

pretty long but i've rarely seen anyone be that internet-owned.
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Iyerbeth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
England2410 Posts
March 07 2012 12:14 GMT
#9
When I saw this yesterday the first thing I wondered about was the stolen FBI conference call stuff as that always seemed quite impressive to me at least, but I don't know if he was involved in acquiring it.
♥ Liquid`Sheth ♥ Liquid`TLO ♥
theBALLS
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Singapore2935 Posts
March 07 2012 12:21 GMT
#10
On March 07 2012 21:12 Liquid`Drone wrote:
here's a fun chatlog
it's between sabu and some other ex-affiliated hacker (apparently?) named virus, from august 2011

http://foojutsu.org/pipermail/wikileaks/2011-August/000270.html

pretty long but i've rarely seen anyone be that internet-owned.

This is so deep I'm lost :D

If you lose the stick, you'll always have theBALLS.
Deleuze
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom2102 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 12:24:41
March 07 2012 12:21 GMT
#11
On March 07 2012 21:11 sulliwan wrote:
A nice list of related information: http://erratasec.blogspot.com/2012/03/notes-on-sabu-arrest.html
Reddit thread: http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/qk612/lulzsec_leader_betrays_all_of_anonymous/

The hilarious bits: http://gawker.com/5890901/anonymous-snitch-tried-and-failed-to-pass-himself-off-as-an-fbi-agent-last-month
http://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/qgahn/recap_the_tale_of_laurelairaziel/


Thanks, will add to the OP.

and you Liquid'Drone - cheers

“An image of thought called philosophy has been formed historically and it effectively stops people from thinking.” ― Gilles Deleuze, Dialogues II
Crying
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria778 Posts
March 07 2012 12:24 GMT
#12
Actually The A-Team who released alot of info about the Group,said that they think Kayla is Mi5,as we see that comes out to be false.

Anyways you cant be invincible even on internet,at the end of the day VPN's and Proxy's sell their logs or can be forced to provide them to the Police.
Determination~ Hard Work Surpass NATURAL GENIUS!
shaftofpleasure
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Korea (North)1375 Posts
March 07 2012 12:36 GMT
#13
The Departed... Anyone?
It's either the holes of my nose are getting smaller or my fingers are getting bigger. /// Always Rooting for the Underdog. Hyuk/Sin/Jaehoon/Juni/Hyvva/Hoejja/Canata //// Hiding in thread somewhere where BW is still in it's pure form here on TL.
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
March 07 2012 12:40 GMT
#14
On March 07 2012 21:12 Liquid`Drone wrote:
here's a fun chatlog
it's between sabu and some other ex-affiliated hacker (apparently?) named virus, from august 2011

http://foojutsu.org/pipermail/wikileaks/2011-August/000270.html

pretty long but i've rarely seen anyone be that internet-owned.


From the chat log (It's long)

Virus: I'm absolutely positive, you already got raided, and are setting
your friends up and when they're done draining you for information and
arrests they'll sentence you and it'll make nose

Sooooo right.
Hey! How you doin'?
Deleuze
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom2102 Posts
March 07 2012 12:43 GMT
#15
On March 07 2012 21:40 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 21:12 Liquid`Drone wrote:
here's a fun chatlog
it's between sabu and some other ex-affiliated hacker (apparently?) named virus, from august 2011

http://foojutsu.org/pipermail/wikileaks/2011-August/000270.html

pretty long but i've rarely seen anyone be that internet-owned.


From the chat log (It's long)

Virus: I'm absolutely positive, you already got raided, and are setting
your friends up and when they're done draining you for information and
arrests they'll sentence you and it'll make nose

Sooooo right.


Followed by...:

Sabu: if you knew me at all
Sabu: you'd know that if I were raided
Sabu: I'd take myself down if anything
Sabu: I'm the martyr type
Sabu: I grew up in the streets

Total bullshit.

Thanks for the info everyone.

“An image of thought called philosophy has been formed historically and it effectively stops people from thinking.” ― Gilles Deleuze, Dialogues II
Chaosvuistje
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands2581 Posts
March 07 2012 12:46 GMT
#16
LulzSec was hardly the cornerstone of Anonymous. They still have Anti-Sec and all that which don't rely on LulzSec at all, so the 'organisation' doesn't really suffer from it. Just another snitch trying to get less jail time really, kind of like an Omerta-less Mafia, it won't work.
Sansai
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria188 Posts
March 07 2012 12:46 GMT
#17
since when does lulsec have a leader?
Geitsa
Profile Joined March 2012
Zimbabwe1 Post
March 07 2012 12:51 GMT
#18
Link to Reddit AMA?
Satisfaction comes in small victories.
R3m3mb3rM3
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany954 Posts
March 07 2012 12:53 GMT
#19
As real as this is, this sounds like some kind of movie. The hacker world seems so cool to me ^^ even though i have no idea what they are doing. would love to be an insider though.
Deleuze
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom2102 Posts
March 07 2012 12:59 GMT
#20
On March 07 2012 21:51 Geitsa wrote:
Link to Reddit AMA?


http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/kpfsp/ama_request_sabu_from_lulsec_this_would_be_amazing/


I have added it to the OP
“An image of thought called philosophy has been formed historically and it effectively stops people from thinking.” ― Gilles Deleuze, Dialogues II
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