EPThackers with runaway egos turns into FBI informant.
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LulzSec leader Sabu - FBI Mole - Page 5
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Mykill
Canada3402 Posts
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sharky246
1197 Posts
On March 08 2012 03:47 ShoCkeyy wrote: LOL, "MONSEGUR, 28, of New York, New York, pled guilty to three counts of computer hacking conspiracy, five counts of computer hacking, one count of computer hacking in furtherance of fraud, one count of conspiracy to commit access device fraud, one count of conspiracy to commit bank fraud, and one count of aggravated identity theft. He faces a maximum sentence of 124 years and six months in prison." Damn, 124 years... Of course he would rat everyone out that he knew... I hope that 124 is typing error, otherwise, my respect for the U.S is going down below zero. Well it was already below zero but w/e. User was warned for this post | ||
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ShoCkeyy
7815 Posts
On March 08 2012 08:21 sharky246 wrote: I hope that 124 is typing error, otherwise, my respect for the U.S has gone down below zero. No error, but really, let's break it down. Basically 12 counts in total to = 124 years maximum. That's 124 / 12 = 10 years in prison a term FOR HACKING. that's ridiculous still. | ||
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Malgrif
Canada1095 Posts
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HellRoxYa
Sweden1614 Posts
On March 08 2012 04:31 Gorsameth wrote: The sad part is that hacking a couple of pcs gives you a higher sentence then murder. Shows what the world has come to. The world is fine. In any case, this is a major problem as, logically, you are better off robbing and murdering someone than you are hacking their savings account. How someone would think this is a good way to design a legal system, I do not know. | ||
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VoO
Germany278 Posts
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-Kaiser-
Canada932 Posts
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Yergidy
United States2107 Posts
On March 07 2012 21:36 shaftofpleasure wrote: The Departed... Anyone? Yup. Basically the mob where 14 year olds can be Jack Nicholson.. | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
On March 07 2012 21:12 Liquid`Drone wrote: here's a fun chatlog it's between sabu and some other ex-affiliated hacker (apparently?) named virus, from august 2011 http://foojutsu.org/pipermail/wikileaks/2011-August/000270.html pretty long but i've rarely seen anyone be that internet-owned. Pretty fun read. It's like The Departed but with some leet hacker nerds that say faggot and nigger a lot. edit: ^ lol guess I'm not the only one that noticed the departed similarity. | ||
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LaLuSh
Sweden2358 Posts
On March 08 2012 08:23 ShoCkeyy wrote: No error, but really, let's break it down. Basically 12 counts in total to = 124 years maximum. That's 124 / 12 = 10 years in prison a term FOR HACKING. that's ridiculous still. It's the lack of an upper limit when stacking counts that appears unusual to us. Can only speak for Sweden, where counts that may lead to jail time will also be stacked, but with a maximum limit of 18 years in prison. Though there exists a life sentence for certain exceptional crimes. It's very sparingly used, with only ~160 serving for life right now. Were some complaints the last couple of years that too many were beginning to be sentenced to life in prison. In the 90s the number of people serving life was only in the double digits. The sentencing rates for life in prison dropped again after that. Even then, average time served for those sentenced to life is expected to be around 18-25 years right now. | ||
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Kabezon
United States11 Posts
http://twitter.com/#!/YourAnonNews scroll down to March 6th and 7th. FBI is blowing this way out of proportion.. not that Anonymous tends to be any better about their victories. The people that were arrested were part of a group that stopped operating officially last summer (I believe?), and a lot of Anonymous members suspected him before this occured. So it doesn't have much of an effect on the group currently other than making them worried and pissed. The question is whether Sabu can give the FBI anyone else, and whether Anonymous will manage anything particularly drastic in response. Next few weeks should be interesting... | ||
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DreamChaser
1649 Posts
On March 07 2012 21:12 Liquid`Drone wrote: here's a fun chatlog it's between sabu and some other ex-affiliated hacker (apparently?) named virus, from august 2011 http://foojutsu.org/pipermail/wikileaks/2011-August/000270.html pretty long but i've rarely seen anyone be that internet-owned. Wow i kind of wish i had read this before, obviously now i know sabu is a snitch. But it would of been interesting with out the obvious bias. | ||
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FreezingAssassin
United States455 Posts
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hunts
United States2113 Posts
On March 08 2012 05:18 Caller wrote: considering that sabu was a script kiddie only capable of orchestrating ddos attacks and high school level sql injections (hes unemployed people, people with actual skills tend to have a job) i dont think this is really going to do anything except piss off 4chan derp us media Then it's already a good thing  4chan is the sewer of the world so it's never bad to know that those fat 15 year olds aren't happy. | ||
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InDaHouse
Sweden956 Posts
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Simberto
Germany12059 Posts
On March 08 2012 07:40 NoobSkills wrote: I wouldn't bundle all Europeans into the same group. Sure every country has a strong sense of nationalism amongst it's people, but Germans have the old WW2 axe to grind and despite knowing little about the US justice system he decides to take the 124 years as a standard sentence for computer crimes. I knowing nothing about the German justice system wouldn't even make a statement like his, but rather ask questions rather than take 124 years as fact when anyone with common sense knows that nobody actually goes to jail for that long for computer crimes alone except perhaps in some perverse situations where that time might be needed. Sorry, but i just have to react to this, because it is basically pure nonsense. "Germans have the old WW2 axe to grind"? I can assure you that most Germans today are pretty happy that the Nazis lost the war. Also, from what i know, Germans tend to be less nationalistic then most other people, exactly because of that history. For example, flags, which are commonly used in other countries tend to be very rare here. Anyways, the american justice system has a pretty bad reputation abroad. I don't know if that is really justified, it might be just a result of only hearing the ridiculous things like people suing about bullshit and getting millions of dollars. Add to that the tendency to mention ridiculous maximum sentences whenever a crime is discussed, no matter what the crime is or whether those sentences are even near what will be the actual result of a trial, and lots and lots of american-made TV shows where the main plot is lawyers and/or policeman fighting with some strange parts of the law which no non-american understands to get the obviously right result, reports of situations where big companies sue smaller competitors just to drive them out of business with legal costs, and you will understand why that system has a bad reputation in other countries. Again, much of that might be just that stuff that works is not interesting enough to be reported in media abroad, so you only get the negative side of things. Not that it really any of our business, either, but apparently a lot of people feel better when they can look down on something else. I don't have to deal with it, so i don't really care. | ||
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ampson
United States2355 Posts
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Nagano
United States1157 Posts
this conversation to my hdd and terminate this IM. you have a great time sucking convict dick in prison when you're done sucking off your handler. faggot." I love this virus guy. He ripped sabu a new one in that chat log. | ||
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Pyskee
United States620 Posts
On March 07 2012 21:36 shaftofpleasure wrote: The Departed... Anyone? That's exactly what I was thinking, lol. This is seriously Jack Nicholson's character.... | ||
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qrs
United States3637 Posts
On March 09 2012 04:23 Simberto wrote: Good post.Sorry, but i just have to react to this, because it is basically pure nonsense. "Germans have the old WW2 axe to grind"? I can assure you that most Germans today are pretty happy that the Nazis lost the war. Also, from what i know, Germans tend to be less nationalistic then most other people, exactly because of that history. For example, flags, which are commonly used in other countries tend to be very rare here. Anyways, the american justice system has a pretty bad reputation abroad. I don't know if that is really justified, it might be just a result of only hearing the ridiculous things like people suing about bullshit and getting millions of dollars. Add to that the tendency to mention ridiculous maximum sentences whenever a crime is discussed, no matter what the crime is or whether those sentences are even near what will be the actual result of a trial, and lots and lots of american-made TV shows where the main plot is lawyers and/or policeman fighting with some strange parts of the law which no non-american understands to get the obviously right result, reports of situations where big companies sue smaller competitors just to drive them out of business with legal costs, and you will understand why that system has a bad reputation in other countries. Again, much of that might be just that stuff that works is not interesting enough to be reported in media abroad, so you only get the negative side of things. Not that it really any of our business, either, but apparently a lot of people feel better when they can look down on something else. I don't have to deal with it, so i don't really care. | ||
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