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On August 27 2018 07:38 Sent. wrote:
Can anyone who used to or still does frequent gaming tournaments in the US describe how do security measures at those events look like? I'm guessing they're minimal at smaller tournaments, I'm mostly curious about bigger titles.
The MLG event I went to in Raleigh a number of years ago had a decent amount of security. I can't remember if there were metal detectors, but there was a noticeable amount of security personnel. Nearly all sporting events have the works though. The smaller stuff- i.e. events that take place in stores/bars- generally has next to nothing as far as security goes. The Jacksonville Landing is a mall area, so may have had mall security. Just keep in mind the US is a pretty darn big place and the variance in violent occurrences can be night and day. I've heard from relatives who live in the area that violence in Jacksonville has been a problem recently, but that's hearsay.
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Yeah, there can be a discussion about the problem without spotlighting the case and the suspect. It's hard to pull off but a good start would be to never show pictures of victims or perpetrator, never name them, never interview them or their relatives. What good does it do to have a mother cry on television that their kid is dead or have a relative say that the son was always a quiet and polite boy. The personal drama does not belong on national television and switching it might be a good first step.
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On August 27 2018 08:21 SetStndbySmn wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2018 07:38 Sent. wrote:
Can anyone who used to or still does frequent gaming tournaments in the US describe how do security measures at those events look like? I'm guessing they're minimal at smaller tournaments, I'm mostly curious about bigger titles. The MLG event I went to in Raleigh a number of years ago had a decent amount of security. I can't remember if there were metal detectors, but there was a noticeable amount of security personnel. Nearly all sporting events have the works though. The smaller stuff- i.e. events that take place in stores/bars- generally has next to nothing as far as security goes. The Jacksonville Landing is a mall area, so may have had mall security. Just keep in mind the US is a pretty darn big place and the variance in violent occurrences can be night and day. I've heard from relatives who live in the area that violence in Jacksonville has been a problem recently, but that's hearsay.
i'm going to Tecmo Madison in April next year. I hope there is zero security. it preserves the fun of the event.
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On August 27 2018 08:21 SetStndbySmn wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2018 07:38 Sent. wrote:
Can anyone who used to or still does frequent gaming tournaments in the US describe how do security measures at those events look like? I'm guessing they're minimal at smaller tournaments, I'm mostly curious about bigger titles. The MLG event I went to in Raleigh a number of years ago had a decent amount of security. I can't remember if there were metal detectors, but there was a noticeable amount of security personnel. Nearly all sporting events have the works though. The smaller stuff- i.e. events that take place in stores/bars- generally has next to nothing as far as security goes. The Jacksonville Landing is a mall area, so may have had mall security. Just keep in mind the US is a pretty darn big place and the variance in violent occurrences can be night and day. I've heard from relatives who live in the area that violence in Jacksonville has been a problem recently, but that's hearsay.
The violence in inner city Jacksonville is horrible. For example: The schools mandate clear backpacks and metal detectors. Meanwhile outside the city the area is really nice and has good schools. Jacksonville schools report over 6000 violent physical acts in a single year. Violence is a huge issue in this area and quite scary for me as a new father. We intentionally are moving to the neighboring county when our kid needs to go to school.
Source: https://www.news4jax.com/news/investigations/duval-county-schools-most-dangerous-in-the-state
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On August 27 2018 08:45 JimmyJRaynor wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2018 08:21 SetStndbySmn wrote:On August 27 2018 07:38 Sent. wrote:
Can anyone who used to or still does frequent gaming tournaments in the US describe how do security measures at those events look like? I'm guessing they're minimal at smaller tournaments, I'm mostly curious about bigger titles. The MLG event I went to in Raleigh a number of years ago had a decent amount of security. I can't remember if there were metal detectors, but there was a noticeable amount of security personnel. Nearly all sporting events have the works though. The smaller stuff- i.e. events that take place in stores/bars- generally has next to nothing as far as security goes. The Jacksonville Landing is a mall area, so may have had mall security. Just keep in mind the US is a pretty darn big place and the variance in violent occurrences can be night and day. I've heard from relatives who live in the area that violence in Jacksonville has been a problem recently, but that's hearsay. i'm going to Tecmo Madison in April next year. I hope there is zero security. it preserves the fun of the event.
I advise you to reconsider your priorites, getting home alive from an event and not in a casket is pretty high up *on my list....
(*edit: F*** typos)
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On August 27 2018 09:03 thePunGun wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2018 08:45 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On August 27 2018 08:21 SetStndbySmn wrote:On August 27 2018 07:38 Sent. wrote:
Can anyone who used to or still does frequent gaming tournaments in the US describe how do security measures at those events look like? I'm guessing they're minimal at smaller tournaments, I'm mostly curious about bigger titles. The MLG event I went to in Raleigh a number of years ago had a decent amount of security. I can't remember if there were metal detectors, but there was a noticeable amount of security personnel. Nearly all sporting events have the works though. The smaller stuff- i.e. events that take place in stores/bars- generally has next to nothing as far as security goes. The Jacksonville Landing is a mall area, so may have had mall security. Just keep in mind the US is a pretty darn big place and the variance in violent occurrences can be night and day. I've heard from relatives who live in the area that violence in Jacksonville has been a problem recently, but that's hearsay. i'm going to Tecmo Madison in April next year. I hope there is zero security. it preserves the fun of the event. I advise you to reconsider your priorites, getting home alive from an event and not in a casket is pretty high up in my list....
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On August 27 2018 09:03 thePunGun wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2018 08:45 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On August 27 2018 08:21 SetStndbySmn wrote:On August 27 2018 07:38 Sent. wrote:
Can anyone who used to or still does frequent gaming tournaments in the US describe how do security measures at those events look like? I'm guessing they're minimal at smaller tournaments, I'm mostly curious about bigger titles. The MLG event I went to in Raleigh a number of years ago had a decent amount of security. I can't remember if there were metal detectors, but there was a noticeable amount of security personnel. Nearly all sporting events have the works though. The smaller stuff- i.e. events that take place in stores/bars- generally has next to nothing as far as security goes. The Jacksonville Landing is a mall area, so may have had mall security. Just keep in mind the US is a pretty darn big place and the variance in violent occurrences can be night and day. I've heard from relatives who live in the area that violence in Jacksonville has been a problem recently, but that's hearsay. i'm going to Tecmo Madison in April next year. I hope there is zero security. it preserves the fun of the event. I advise you to reconsider your priorites, getting home alive from an event and not in a casket is pretty high up in my list....
i've been to many EA NHL '94 throughout the Greater Toronto Area over the last 15 years; They've always had zero security. If a competitive event based on a game released in October of 1993 ( EA NHL 94 ) or July 1991 ( Super Tecmo Bowl ) adds security then I'm not attending. I'll just watch on Twitch.
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On August 27 2018 09:26 JimmyJRaynor wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2018 09:03 thePunGun wrote:On August 27 2018 08:45 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On August 27 2018 08:21 SetStndbySmn wrote:On August 27 2018 07:38 Sent. wrote:
Can anyone who used to or still does frequent gaming tournaments in the US describe how do security measures at those events look like? I'm guessing they're minimal at smaller tournaments, I'm mostly curious about bigger titles. The MLG event I went to in Raleigh a number of years ago had a decent amount of security. I can't remember if there were metal detectors, but there was a noticeable amount of security personnel. Nearly all sporting events have the works though. The smaller stuff- i.e. events that take place in stores/bars- generally has next to nothing as far as security goes. The Jacksonville Landing is a mall area, so may have had mall security. Just keep in mind the US is a pretty darn big place and the variance in violent occurrences can be night and day. I've heard from relatives who live in the area that violence in Jacksonville has been a problem recently, but that's hearsay. i'm going to Tecmo Madison in April next year. I hope there is zero security. it preserves the fun of the event. I advise you to reconsider your priorites, getting home alive from an event and not in a casket is pretty high up in my list.... i've been to many EA NHL '94 throughout the Greater Toronto Area over the last 15 years; They've always had zero security. If a competitive event based on a game released in October of 1993 ( EA NHL 94 ) or July 1991 ( Super Tecmo Bowl ) adds security then I'm not attending. I'll just watch on Twitch.
There is no way EA is going to have any events without security after this. Their own employees were at this event. Enjoy watching on twitch.
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On August 27 2018 09:26 JimmyJRaynor wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2018 09:03 thePunGun wrote:On August 27 2018 08:45 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On August 27 2018 08:21 SetStndbySmn wrote:On August 27 2018 07:38 Sent. wrote:
Can anyone who used to or still does frequent gaming tournaments in the US describe how do security measures at those events look like? I'm guessing they're minimal at smaller tournaments, I'm mostly curious about bigger titles. The MLG event I went to in Raleigh a number of years ago had a decent amount of security. I can't remember if there were metal detectors, but there was a noticeable amount of security personnel. Nearly all sporting events have the works though. The smaller stuff- i.e. events that take place in stores/bars- generally has next to nothing as far as security goes. The Jacksonville Landing is a mall area, so may have had mall security. Just keep in mind the US is a pretty darn big place and the variance in violent occurrences can be night and day. I've heard from relatives who live in the area that violence in Jacksonville has been a problem recently, but that's hearsay. i'm going to Tecmo Madison in April next year. I hope there is zero security. it preserves the fun of the event. I advise you to reconsider your priorites, getting home alive from an event and not in a casket is pretty high up in my list.... i've been to many EA NHL '94 throughout the Greater Toronto Area over the last 15 years; They've always had zero security. If a competitive event based on a game released in October of 1993 ( EA NHL 94 ) or July 1991 ( Super Tecmo Bowl ) adds security then I'm not attending. I'll just watch on Twitch.
The landing is notorious for irrational murders. It has a history of football fans ranging from Jacksonville vs X team and Florida vs Georgia fans killing each other over team pride and hatred. In this instance I would prefer security knowing the history of competitive rivalry over the years. Just recently an opponent of the jags had a fan who was stabbed to death while walking with his family.
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On August 27 2018 09:31 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2018 09:26 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On August 27 2018 09:03 thePunGun wrote:On August 27 2018 08:45 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On August 27 2018 08:21 SetStndbySmn wrote:On August 27 2018 07:38 Sent. wrote:
Can anyone who used to or still does frequent gaming tournaments in the US describe how do security measures at those events look like? I'm guessing they're minimal at smaller tournaments, I'm mostly curious about bigger titles. The MLG event I went to in Raleigh a number of years ago had a decent amount of security. I can't remember if there were metal detectors, but there was a noticeable amount of security personnel. Nearly all sporting events have the works though. The smaller stuff- i.e. events that take place in stores/bars- generally has next to nothing as far as security goes. The Jacksonville Landing is a mall area, so may have had mall security. Just keep in mind the US is a pretty darn big place and the variance in violent occurrences can be night and day. I've heard from relatives who live in the area that violence in Jacksonville has been a problem recently, but that's hearsay. i'm going to Tecmo Madison in April next year. I hope there is zero security. it preserves the fun of the event. I advise you to reconsider your priorites, getting home alive from an event and not in a casket is pretty high up in my list.... i've been to many EA NHL '94 throughout the Greater Toronto Area over the last 15 years; They've always had zero security. If a competitive event based on a game released in October of 1993 ( EA NHL 94 ) or July 1991 ( Super Tecmo Bowl ) adds security then I'm not attending. I'll just watch on Twitch. There is no way EA is going to have any events without security after this. Their own employees were at this event. Enjoy watching on twitch.
Dont think EA has a whole lot to do with some of these smaller events.. Ive only been to major events, for Dota CS and SC2 and all of them had metal detectors. Just like any other concert or sporting event.
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On August 27 2018 07:38 Sent. wrote:
Can anyone who used to or still does frequent gaming tournaments in the US describe how do security measures at those events look like? I'm guessing they're minimal at smaller tournaments, I'm mostly curious about bigger titles.
It was a small thing at a gaming bar, so probably not any more than one would expect going to a bar. This wasn't some big tournament at a stadium.
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On August 27 2018 05:49 zlefin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2018 05:07 Excludos wrote:On August 27 2018 03:58 zlefin wrote:
Hmmm, how do I push the view that we should talk about mass shootings less in a way that isn't, in itself, contributing to the problem of talking about mass shootings? I don't think we should talk about it less. I understand and even agree to the idea of not giving these people more attention, yet if we start talking less about these it then they are also going to become less important. They should be at the forefront of everyone's minds until people start voting in politicians with a resemblance of humanity in them. Do you understand that the nature of the objection is that talking about these things causes them to become more common? and that if they were not splashed all over the news and everywhere else all the time, they might become less common as a result?
There is no way to know if talking about a thing causes it to occur more, which makes the statement false (and dangerous because it encourages silence).
All of these issues people talk about and discuss existed before they were topics of discussion.
Take for example racism and violence against women, these are 2 direct examples of awareness/discussion increasing and occurrence decreasing. In these cases, talking about the issue raised awareness and advocacy for the people being hurt.
I think I hear your point, and I'm no fan of how mainstream media with broadcast this 24/7, but silence won't help America's gun problem.
*Imagine if nobody was talking about 3D printed guns and we did nothing about it, the problem worsens exponentially. Yet many people might not know you could get 3D printed guns until the news broke about it, but if we said nothing and raised no concerns that would have been a reality for all of us.
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On August 27 2018 09:03 thePunGun wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2018 08:45 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On August 27 2018 08:21 SetStndbySmn wrote:On August 27 2018 07:38 Sent. wrote:
Can anyone who used to or still does frequent gaming tournaments in the US describe how do security measures at those events look like? I'm guessing they're minimal at smaller tournaments, I'm mostly curious about bigger titles. The MLG event I went to in Raleigh a number of years ago had a decent amount of security. I can't remember if there were metal detectors, but there was a noticeable amount of security personnel. Nearly all sporting events have the works though. The smaller stuff- i.e. events that take place in stores/bars- generally has next to nothing as far as security goes. The Jacksonville Landing is a mall area, so may have had mall security. Just keep in mind the US is a pretty darn big place and the variance in violent occurrences can be night and day. I've heard from relatives who live in the area that violence in Jacksonville has been a problem recently, but that's hearsay. i'm going to Tecmo Madison in April next year. I hope there is zero security. it preserves the fun of the event. I advise you to reconsider your priorites, getting home alive from an event and not in a casket is pretty high up in my list....
A gaming event does not need backpack searching etc. If you reach the point where searching backpacks is preferable to gun control then something has gone badly wrong. Similar to putting toddlers in body armour etc.
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On August 27 2018 08:21 SetStndbySmn wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2018 07:38 Sent. wrote:
Can anyone who used to or still does frequent gaming tournaments in the US describe how do security measures at those events look like? I'm guessing they're minimal at smaller tournaments, I'm mostly curious about bigger titles. The MLG event I went to in Raleigh a number of years ago had a decent amount of security. I can't remember if there were metal detectors, but there was a noticeable amount of security personnel. Nearly all sporting events have the works though. The smaller stuff- i.e. events that take place in stores/bars- generally has next to nothing as far as security goes. The Jacksonville Landing is a mall area, so may have had mall security. Just keep in mind the US is a pretty darn big place and the variance in violent occurrences can be night and day. I've heard from relatives who live in the area that violence in Jacksonville has been a problem recently, but that's hearsay.
Security consists of there being more armed citizens in the vicinity. After all, most people are good guys, and the more good guys there are with guns, the less likely it is that a bad guy will get very far. In other words, more guns = more safety. We must adhere to this age old maxim and ensure that there are more guns in all areas of America:
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On August 27 2018 09:31 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2018 09:26 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On August 27 2018 09:03 thePunGun wrote:On August 27 2018 08:45 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On August 27 2018 08:21 SetStndbySmn wrote:On August 27 2018 07:38 Sent. wrote:
Can anyone who used to or still does frequent gaming tournaments in the US describe how do security measures at those events look like? I'm guessing they're minimal at smaller tournaments, I'm mostly curious about bigger titles. The MLG event I went to in Raleigh a number of years ago had a decent amount of security. I can't remember if there were metal detectors, but there was a noticeable amount of security personnel. Nearly all sporting events have the works though. The smaller stuff- i.e. events that take place in stores/bars- generally has next to nothing as far as security goes. The Jacksonville Landing is a mall area, so may have had mall security. Just keep in mind the US is a pretty darn big place and the variance in violent occurrences can be night and day. I've heard from relatives who live in the area that violence in Jacksonville has been a problem recently, but that's hearsay. i'm going to Tecmo Madison in April next year. I hope there is zero security. it preserves the fun of the event. I advise you to reconsider your priorites, getting home alive from an event and not in a casket is pretty high up in my list.... i've been to many EA NHL '94 throughout the Greater Toronto Area over the last 15 years; They've always had zero security. If a competitive event based on a game released in October of 1993 ( EA NHL 94 ) or July 1991 ( Super Tecmo Bowl ) adds security then I'm not attending. I'll just watch on Twitch. There is no way EA is going to have any events without security after this. Their own employees were at this event. Enjoy watching on twitch.
lol, EA NHL '94 was abandoned in 1996.. some 22 years ago. these events are run on shoestring budgets and any "security" would be just to say they have "security". its not like it'd be some kind of elite military force.
i predict teh next NHL '94 event held in the greater toronto area will have zero security.
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On August 27 2018 11:05 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2018 08:21 SetStndbySmn wrote:On August 27 2018 07:38 Sent. wrote:
Can anyone who used to or still does frequent gaming tournaments in the US describe how do security measures at those events look like? I'm guessing they're minimal at smaller tournaments, I'm mostly curious about bigger titles. The MLG event I went to in Raleigh a number of years ago had a decent amount of security. I can't remember if there were metal detectors, but there was a noticeable amount of security personnel. Nearly all sporting events have the works though. The smaller stuff- i.e. events that take place in stores/bars- generally has next to nothing as far as security goes. The Jacksonville Landing is a mall area, so may have had mall security. Just keep in mind the US is a pretty darn big place and the variance in violent occurrences can be night and day. I've heard from relatives who live in the area that violence in Jacksonville has been a problem recently, but that's hearsay. Security consists of there being more armed citizens in the vicinity. After all, most people are good guys, and the more good guys there are with guns, the less likely it is that a bad guy will get very far. In other words, more guns = more safety. We must adhere to this age old maxim and ensure that there are more guns in all areas of America: https://twitter.com/DLoesch/status/1033806660865863680
Damn they beat us to politicizing it. Im shocked, shocked I say.
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On August 27 2018 11:05 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2018 08:21 SetStndbySmn wrote:On August 27 2018 07:38 Sent. wrote:
Can anyone who used to or still does frequent gaming tournaments in the US describe how do security measures at those events look like? I'm guessing they're minimal at smaller tournaments, I'm mostly curious about bigger titles. The MLG event I went to in Raleigh a number of years ago had a decent amount of security. I can't remember if there were metal detectors, but there was a noticeable amount of security personnel. Nearly all sporting events have the works though. The smaller stuff- i.e. events that take place in stores/bars- generally has next to nothing as far as security goes. The Jacksonville Landing is a mall area, so may have had mall security. Just keep in mind the US is a pretty darn big place and the variance in violent occurrences can be night and day. I've heard from relatives who live in the area that violence in Jacksonville has been a problem recently, but that's hearsay. Security consists of there being more armed citizens in the vicinity. After all, most people are good guys, and the more good guys there are with guns, the less likely it is that a bad guy will get very far. In other words, more guns = more safety. We must adhere to this age old maxim and ensure that there are more guns in all areas of America: https://twitter.com/DLoesch/status/1033806660865863680
I'm pickin up on your sarcasm, and it speaks volumes in a very round-a-bout way.
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On August 27 2018 10:15 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2018 09:03 thePunGun wrote:On August 27 2018 08:45 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On August 27 2018 08:21 SetStndbySmn wrote:On August 27 2018 07:38 Sent. wrote:
Can anyone who used to or still does frequent gaming tournaments in the US describe how do security measures at those events look like? I'm guessing they're minimal at smaller tournaments, I'm mostly curious about bigger titles. The MLG event I went to in Raleigh a number of years ago had a decent amount of security. I can't remember if there were metal detectors, but there was a noticeable amount of security personnel. Nearly all sporting events have the works though. The smaller stuff- i.e. events that take place in stores/bars- generally has next to nothing as far as security goes. The Jacksonville Landing is a mall area, so may have had mall security. Just keep in mind the US is a pretty darn big place and the variance in violent occurrences can be night and day. I've heard from relatives who live in the area that violence in Jacksonville has been a problem recently, but that's hearsay. i'm going to Tecmo Madison in April next year. I hope there is zero security. it preserves the fun of the event. I advise you to reconsider your priorites, getting home alive from an event and not in a casket is pretty high up in my list.... A gaming event does not need backpack searching etc. If you reach the point where searching backpacks is preferable to gun control then something has gone badly wrong. Similar to putting toddlers in body armour etc.
We have backpack checks at Finnish lans when you walk inside, so i dont see why that would be so bad in America, especially with the current gun situation. Gun control would be nice but it doesnt hurt to be careful.
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University. Mass shooting
High school. Mass shooting
Primary school. Mass shooting
Church. Mass shooting
Military base. Mass shooting
Nightclub. Mass shooting
Movie theatre. Mass shooting
Christmas party. Mass shooting
Music festival. Mass shooting
Video game tourney. Mass shooting
All of these since 2012. How are you meant to go to a public place in the US at this point? Any type of gathering has been targeted.
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On August 27 2018 14:53 DropBear wrote:
University. Mass shooting
High school. Mass shooting
Primary school. Mass shooting
Church. Mass shooting
Military base. Mass shooting
Nightclub. Mass shooting
Movie theatre. Mass shooting
Christmas party. Mass shooting
Music festival. Mass shooting
Video game tourney. Mass shooting
All of these since 2012. How are you meant to go to a public place in the US at this point? Any type of gathering has been targeted.
You are more likely to die while driving your car to work, so I guess we should all quit our jobs too. Time to close down society.
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