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Zihua
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands177 Posts
February 09 2012 19:13 GMT
#61
When I establish my Reich, moral relativism will be punishable by death. And it will be completely okay.
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
February 09 2012 19:15 GMT
#62
On February 10 2012 04:11 Cifer wrote:
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On February 10 2012 04:05 Inori wrote:
It's like part of earth is stuck in 1500s.

1500s? more like 1950s, doesn't this hold any resemblance to Mccarthysim witch hunts in the states at that time? actually in a way those were worse, because people were prosecuted without evidence! Face it, stupidity and prejudice will always be part of out creed. And to think that a single society have a monopoly over it is just ignorant!


Not quite sure how they correlate, at least enough to pin point that out of everything else that's happened in the last couple centuries, but ok.
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
February 09 2012 19:20 GMT
#63
It's ridiculous that stuff like this still happens in the modern world, especially a country with as many resources as Saudi Arabia.
Slakter
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden1947 Posts
February 09 2012 19:20 GMT
#64
On February 10 2012 04:05 Inori wrote:
It's like part of earth is stuck in 1500s.

I would say that it got this way because their upper class discovered oil and managed to get even richer than imaginable, while their population was still socially "undeveloped". This creates a situation where the rich got so rich so fast that morally theyre just a little less terrible than their parents but their power is enormous in comparison.

Imagine there was a country that culturally was about as developed as "we" were just before what we call "the renaissance" or something like it. Imagine now that these people discovered huge quantities of diamonds on their little island where they lived. They would earn gigantic amounts of money, but culturally would very much stay the same. Their kids would hold basically the same values as their parents but they would have tonnes of diamondmoney.

That is Saudi Arabia.
Protoss, can't live with em', can't kill em'.
FlyingToilet
Profile Joined August 2011
United States840 Posts
February 09 2012 19:27 GMT
#65
no 1st world country is going to go against ancient laws about not questioning a religion, i believe every human has a right to live regardless of your background or beliefs, and the people making groups to kill that guy?! wtf is wrong with the people who manage facebook? they should shut that evil fueled group of people and tell them to keep it to their own damned country. fuck the people who praise this guys death, obviously they only encourage the wrong things and have never ever faced misery or death first hand...
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aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
February 09 2012 19:32 GMT
#66
On February 10 2012 04:27 FlyingToilet wrote:
no 1st world country is going to go against ancient laws about not questioning a religion, i believe every human has a right to live regardless of your background or beliefs, and the people making groups to kill that guy?! wtf is wrong with the people who manage facebook? they should shut that evil fueled group of people and tell them to keep it to their own damned country. fuck the people who praise this guys death, obviously they only encourage the wrong things and have never ever faced misery or death first hand...

Facebook CEO might be really scared of the consequences if they were to shut that group. Unfortunately there's not much to do.
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JeffGoldblum
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Cook Islands191 Posts
February 09 2012 19:32 GMT
#67
I sometimes wonder how the human brain can cope with thousands of years of both religious fanaticism and logical thinking. Isn't that like a huge paradoxical bubble prone to pop? I don't think religion is the scourge of humanity as much as just pure ignorance which a lot of religious people apparently have a surplus of.
I'm Jeff Goldblum
forgottendreams
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1771 Posts
February 09 2012 19:42 GMT
#68
On February 10 2012 04:20 Slakter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 04:05 Inori wrote:
It's like part of earth is stuck in 1500s.

I would say that it got this way because their upper class discovered oil and managed to get even richer than imaginable, while their population was still socially "undeveloped". This creates a situation where the rich got so rich so fast that morally theyre just a little less terrible than their parents but their power is enormous in comparison.

Imagine there was a country that culturally was about as developed as "we" were just before what we call "the renaissance" or something like it. Imagine now that these people discovered huge quantities of diamonds on their little island where they lived. They would earn gigantic amounts of money, but culturally would very much stay the same. Their kids would hold basically the same values as their parents but they would have tonnes of diamondmoney.

That is Saudi Arabia.


Depends on how you view the House of the Saud. After reading a book on them and watching a frontline doc I have to say they seem quite pragmatic and realpolitik as well as openly clashing with religious mullah's who retain great power over the population and the House. I think the issue is more complicated then seems....

Zandar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1541 Posts
February 09 2012 19:54 GMT
#69
Why do we have the UN if they keep allowing members to do shit like this, just because they are in a strategic location and have oil?

Shame on all of us to be honest.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
OkStyX
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada1199 Posts
February 09 2012 19:56 GMT
#70
On February 10 2012 03:05 Eiaco wrote:
A pathetic, inhuman country. A country that never has (or will) achieve anything notable other than being the oil dealer for the world. Seriously, this country only still exists because of that black stuff under their feet.


You realize that the middle east was the cradle of civilization and that medicine philosophy and alot of the things we enjoy were recorded by them and shared with us when they would move up into europe
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OkStyX
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada1199 Posts
February 09 2012 19:59 GMT
#71
You guys should understand that its not religion doing this its the people running the theocracy they are corrupt there is nothing wrong with religion at all.
Team Overklocked Gaming! That man is the noblest creature may be inferred from the fact that no other creature has contested this claim. - G.C. Lichtenberg
Spieltor
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
327 Posts
February 09 2012 20:04 GMT
#72
On February 10 2012 02:41 ddrddrddrddr wrote:
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On February 10 2012 02:29 v3chr0 wrote:
Sad thing is, this probably happens to so many people around the world in countless situations, and only the ones who get notoriety for their actions have a chance for intervention. I think someone should help him out, you shouldn't be condemned for questioning things, that's actually the greatest thing you can ever do is question - and thats probably why they don't tolerate it; people thinking outside of their bonds? Slay him! it's archaic and maybe even stupid to let cultures and religions dictate the direction of a society. Most of these people are so brain washed to hate Western(ers) (influence) it causes a lot of unneccisary hate when we're just trying to help these people.

Everyone complains nobody does anything, then when people do, particularly the U.S, all the outrage is just the same, but from a different group of people. You can't win politically, for some reason people think letting people live under these conditions is Ok, everyone should be free to make such remarks, and question things among most else. The matter of how seem to be an issue I guess. Do the right thing, you cannot ignore a situation because the people doing it believe it's right, fuck them, what if it was your Life, or a family members, its nonsensical.

US outrage is seen as hypocrisy because lots of things people get outraged about are things that the country has problems with. Having people live under these conditions is not okay, but there is no good way of solving it. When America shows that it is worthy of its holier-than-thou attitude, it may gain the right to call other countries out on their imperfections because it is already above it. Until then, attempts at "helping" other countries are nothing but selfish actions buried under demagogical excuses.



when the U.S. stops having all of its products made with slave-wage laborers even though slavery is illegal in the U.S. then they'll have room to talk.
"A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." -Thomas Jefferson
DoubleReed
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4130 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 20:25:19
February 09 2012 20:24 GMT
#73
Edit: nm
hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
February 09 2012 20:37 GMT
#74
On February 10 2012 04:59 ShakAttaK wrote:
You guys should understand that its not religion doing this its the people running the theocracy they are corrupt there is nothing wrong with religion at all.


Stupid ideas don't kill people. Bad people using stupid ideas for their own benefit kill people.
"Sending people in rockets to other planets is a waste of money better spent on sending rockets into people on this planet."
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
February 09 2012 20:43 GMT
#75
Here's a scary thought- what happens to the region when either A. The oil dries up or B. The demand for oil runs out.

Africa2, except with religious zealotry and the ability and desire to buy weapons on a grand scale.
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
Recognizable
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Netherlands1552 Posts
February 09 2012 20:48 GMT
#76
On February 10 2012 04:56 ShakAttaK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 03:05 Eiaco wrote:
A pathetic, inhuman country. A country that never has (or will) achieve anything notable other than being the oil dealer for the world. Seriously, this country only still exists because of that black stuff under their feet.


You realize that the middle east was the cradle of civilization and that medicine philosophy and alot of the things we enjoy were recorded by them and shared with us when they would move up into europe


Yes, but you have to realize the downfall of their civilization and science basically begun when more and more people got converted to Islam(Disclaimer, I don't have anything against Islam)+ Show Spoiler +
Just religion in general^^
and that's where we are now.

zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
February 09 2012 20:55 GMT
#77
On February 10 2012 04:56 ShakAttaK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 03:05 Eiaco wrote:
A pathetic, inhuman country. A country that never has (or will) achieve anything notable other than being the oil dealer for the world. Seriously, this country only still exists because of that black stuff under their feet.


You realize that the middle east was the cradle of civilization and that medicine philosophy and alot of the things we enjoy were recorded by them and shared with us when they would move up into europe


Greece is on the edge of financial ruin.

Are they not on the edge of ruin because, once, their civilization was insanely advanced for it's time?


The middle-east used to be the center of the world when it came to knowledge, and even their economy was booming. But does that mean that today, they still get credit for that?


Holland used to be one of the strongest countries in the world. During its golden age, it was at the pinacle of economic development and scientific discovery.


But none of that means much. It's interesting history, but history does not give credit for today.

Neil Degrasse Tyson has an interesting vid on it:

amd098
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (North)1366 Posts
February 09 2012 21:15 GMT
#78
On February 10 2012 00:59 DragoonPK wrote:
Saudi Arabia has the most retarded variation of Islamic Law. This is really retarded.

QFT
the bully of the gulf.
North Korea is best Korea!
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
February 09 2012 21:20 GMT
#79
Glad once again to not be living in a Muslim nation, and to have the freedom of worshiping whichever god I choose.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
February 09 2012 21:39 GMT
#80
After I read/watched The Kite Runner none of this seems surprising. Whenever anybody complains about the government in America, all I can think is that if you replaced the USA's government with others from around the world--whether it's Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, or wherever else--you'd find that your government is pretty great in comparison.

This is really atrocious. It's sad, but what I think is even more sad is that this does not surprise me in the least bit.
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