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Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
February 09 2012 18:37 GMT
#41
So fucked up world, I'm wondering how long it will take until religion dies.
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
CadaverSculptor
Profile Joined December 2011
Korea (South)23 Posts
February 09 2012 18:39 GMT
#42
Guess what Saudi, I'm infinitely superior to Muhammad. He eats my shit for all 3 meals of the day. So suck it.

User was banned for this post.
Johnnybb
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark486 Posts
February 09 2012 18:39 GMT
#43
Makes me so sad to read...
Scootaloo
Profile Joined January 2012
655 Posts
February 09 2012 18:47 GMT
#44
And people say Islam is a peaceful religion when stuff like this is directly written in the Qu'ran, religion of peace right?
Eschaton
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
February 09 2012 18:52 GMT
#45
On February 10 2012 00:45 sermokala wrote:
People don't understand how fundementaly backward the middle east is and why america thinks that we need to invade for their oil.

this is pretty much why. You can't expect them to be your friends while you shit on their culture and you can't shit on their culture without condemning thousands to death for one reason or another.

the reason why iran hate us so much is that we granted a guy that they hate a lot asylum in our country and saved his life. don't give a shit reason like its the right thing to do when you're talking about international politics.


Yes you totally nailed it. Iran's hatred for the US has absolutely nothing to do with our support of Israel, our meddling in the politics of their region, or our support of the previous ruler. [/sarcasm]
fortheGG
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1002 Posts
February 09 2012 18:55 GMT
#46
As long as there is oil,Isreal & Iran nothing serious will ever happen.

There is a facebook group with thousands of muslims calling for the execution of Hamza Kashgari. As of this moment, there is no facebook group that calls for mercy.


Much much crazier things have happened in the Middle East that provoke pretty much the same reaction.

fortheGG
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1002 Posts
February 09 2012 18:56 GMT
#47
On February 10 2012 03:47 Scootaloo wrote:
And people say Islam is a peaceful religion when stuff like this is directly written in the Qu'ran, religion of peace right?


People can interpret things differently
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
February 09 2012 18:56 GMT
#48
...

I'm going to take a stance of pragmatism. Unless you are planning to do something about this, you just have to accept it. Worse atrocities happen everyday in this world and getting up in arms about every single one is impractical.

I'm not saying that what is happening to this man is right. What I'm saying is, what are you planning to do about it? Forcing people to accept democracy isn't democracy.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 19:01:57
February 09 2012 19:00 GMT
#49
why is anybody surprised here? First of all it's Saudi Arabia the country with the strictest sunni law. And then we got a dude who made stupid comments on twitter publicly saying that Mohammad is not something special and that he is equal to him? That's what broke his back. It's basic Islam knowledge that there will be no prophets after Mohammad and he just said that he is one. And they will kill him for that I have no doubt.

The first two tweets are not really a big problem but the last one was too much.
Cifer
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom69 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 19:04:51
February 09 2012 19:01 GMT
#50
On February 10 2012 00:42 zalz wrote:
I say people because this is not a totalitarian regime acting against the wishes of its people. This is a totalitarian theocracy acting entirely according to the wishes of the people.


You're contradicting yourself here... Isn't Hamza a Saudi? does he wish for a death penalty? I think not, I don't know how you arrived at that conclusion, but you couldn't be more wrong; as this would mean Saudi is in fact a democratic country, which is just not true.

The guy is going to be prosecuted for speaking out on the internet and then you wonder where are the facebook groups defending him are? Even if fear is not a factor, lets just pretend indifference is. If that was a crime, then most of the western world would be guilty of it for the crimes that their governments have committed. Does Saudi have an environment that cultivate nut jobs such are the ones calling for his death? Undoubtedly yes, but you have no evidence to how much of society they represent and to suggest that that government gives a crap about what anyone thinks is just untrue. Because if was true, then a most Saudis like living in poverty in the richest country in the world, and like unemployment and corruption and thrive with the fact that no one has any right to speak about it!
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
February 09 2012 19:02 GMT
#51
On February 10 2012 04:00 Skilledblob wrote:
why is anybody surprised here? First of all it's Saudi Arabia the country with the strictest sunni law. And then we got a dude who made stupid comments on twitter publicly saying that Mohammad is not something special and that he is equal to him? That's what broke his back. It's basic Islam knowledge that there will be no prophets after Mohammad and he just said that he is one. And they will kill him for that I have no doubt.


If anything he stated that Muhammed was not a prophet and thus they are the same, both human.

He never claims himself a prophet, only that he doubts the air of divinity around Muhammed.
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
February 09 2012 19:05 GMT
#52
On February 10 2012 04:02 zalz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 04:00 Skilledblob wrote:
why is anybody surprised here? First of all it's Saudi Arabia the country with the strictest sunni law. And then we got a dude who made stupid comments on twitter publicly saying that Mohammad is not something special and that he is equal to him? That's what broke his back. It's basic Islam knowledge that there will be no prophets after Mohammad and he just said that he is one. And they will kill him for that I have no doubt.


If anything he stated that Muhammed was not a prophet and thus they are the same, both human.

He never claims himself a prophet, only that he doubts the air of divinity around Muhammed.


maybe, but the outcome is still the same.
Deleted User 61629
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
1664 Posts
February 09 2012 19:05 GMT
#53
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Diizzy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States828 Posts
February 09 2012 19:06 GMT
#54
killing someone because of religion. i wonder what their god teach them sometimes.
Herculix
Profile Joined May 2010
United States946 Posts
February 09 2012 19:07 GMT
#55
On February 10 2012 01:02 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
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On February 10 2012 00:54 Le French wrote:
The French discovered the solution to harmony in multiculturalism many many years ago:

Get the fuck off people's backyard! It's easy to debate on ideals and pure order, but we have to realized different people operate on different values. Given that most of us don't know about this in full detail, it's better that we leave them alone to sort this out.

I honestly don't know Islam law, and I don't know the gravity of his words in accordance to religion, but the most I think we can do is to leave this to the experts of traditional and progressive Islam culture and see how this recent event falls. The less people who know nothing say about this, and the more those who have authoritative knowledge on the topic express the facts and opinions, the better the discussion will be.

While I agree we should ignore it because its not our problem, the issue is its unbalanced punishment and way over the top for his crime. If he said that in any country with real tangible rights he would not get in any trouble for using freedom of speech. These countries have government and religion so heavily intertwined that they are killing people for going against their faith and forcing it on others. Must of us can agree this is wrong on any rational scale and therefore condemnable. I won't deny some issues have gray areas but if you can't see that its wrong to kill someone for tweeting three lines then you/your country needs to seriously reevaluate itself.


any nation isn't anyone's backyard. you're not French, you are a human living within the boundaries that royalty generations ago claimed and called France. if my parents didn't move generations ago, i would be European and not American. you really must place no value in human life if a silly thing like borders gives you a justified excuse to let people take other people's lives for no decent reason.
Diizzy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States828 Posts
February 09 2012 19:07 GMT
#56
On February 10 2012 03:39 CadaverSculptor wrote:
Guess what Saudi, I'm infinitely superior to Muhammad. He eats my shit for all 3 meals of the day. So suck it.


lmao. some saudi assassin will come get you now sir. good day
aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
February 09 2012 19:10 GMT
#57
Humans never cease to amaze me.
Also this is another proof nobody is safe on the internet anymore.
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Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 19:15:38
February 09 2012 19:11 GMT
#58
Saudi Arabia is terribly socially backwards and they along with the other Gulf countries and Iran give a terribly bad name to all Mideastern peoples and Muslims. Shame Lebanon isn't more influential and Iraq, well, it's hit rock bottom, and is becoming Islamified anyways. Yeah, the Mideast is screwed.
Cifer
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom69 Posts
February 09 2012 19:11 GMT
#59
On February 10 2012 04:05 Inori wrote:
It's like part of earth is stuck in 1500s.

1500s? more like 1950s, doesn't this hold any resemblance to Mccarthysim witch hunts in the states at that time? actually in a way those were worse, because people were prosecuted without evidence! Face it, stupidity and prejudice will always be part of out creed. And to think that a single society have a monopoly over it is just ignorant!
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
February 09 2012 19:13 GMT
#60
A friend of Kashgari told the Daily Beast “Everyone who tried to objectively deal with this case was immediately stigmatized and labeled an enemy of the prophet, who therefore should suffer the same fate Hamza is awaiting.”


http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/319341

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