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when i see someone with that many viewers and a fully buttoned suit i am confused...
is it that nobody knows what is the adequate way to dress, is it just very rare that people care or is it me who is missinformed and this is ok in that type of picture?
also everytime i watch a TED video the lecturer has his jacket unbuttoned?!
do i care and mind too much?
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can someone give me links similar to day9/artosis blazers during casting of sc2 tournments.. ?
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A lot of times they wear black sport coats, which I would advise against, and most of the time they dont fit that well. I would look elsewhere for inspiration to be honest. I love those guys, but I wouldnt model my wardrobe after them.
If youre looking for a nice, solid colour blazer or sport coat that is extremely versatile, I would recommend maybe checking out the JCrew ludlow or aldridge in navy. You can dress it up, down, and it has a pretty nice OTR fit so it wouldnt take much or any tailoring. Also, they regularly have 30-40% off sale days.
And for the gentleman on the previous page asking about black tie. Black tie is supposed to mean black dinner jacket (Tuxedo) white shirt, bowtie, waistcoat, cumberbund, that sort of deal. If people show up in jeans, they have severely misinterpreted the dress code. Black tie is the second most formal dress requirement. One of the only times black is actually suggested and appropriate.
Edit* Just saw the < sign. Does that mean they said black tie but people will dress less, or they said "not black tie"? Need some clarification haha.
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I asked the MC, because it was somewhere between the black tie and jeans and I wasn't sure, she said 'a nice suit' would be greatly appreciated, black tie would be too much. I wouldn't want to be more formal than the other guests in general or the groom. Improvised dresscodes... :p
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Since they want something dressy, and it sounds like its in the evening, I would go with a charcoal gray suit. Keep the tie and pocket square toward the subtle end of things. That would be my advice based on what youve given me so far. Of course a darker "true" navy suit could work as well. I would avoid anything patterned.
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My wardrobe:
2 pairs of jeans 10 t-shirts 2 long sleeve 3 dressy combos (3 X dress shirt, shoes, dress pants, blazers, peacoat, etc) One hoodie, one puffy, korean-like coat 30 pairs of fancy socks. 3 sneakers.
On average, one pair of jeans lasts me a week, then I wash it.
I D G A F
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Thanks for that thoughtful contribution.
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On April 03 2012 21:40 Grend wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2012 06:59 jamesr12 wrote:On April 03 2012 05:29 PrimeTimey wrote:On April 02 2012 17:59 nepeta wrote:On March 29 2012 17:47 opisska wrote:Please, don't take the following post as trolling. I just thought that people reading this thread make an interesting audience to hearing something about ... me  I am almost 30 now and I weared a suit exactly 4 times in my life. Three times because my mother made me so: for two immatriculations (high school and university) and the final exam from the high school - and once for kinf of a joke activity with my friends (and I got to keep my hiking shoes at least  ). And that is it. Dressing as I want has become an importatnt part of my life since I left my parents' home ten years ago. I do not own a single shirt and my whole wardrobe is a couple of outdoor pants and a lot of t-shirts, mainfly from the "clothes for workers" store, 5$ each. Some people would still keep telling me: but you have to dress for X to be successfull. No, I don't. Everyone was wearing a suit for the final exam from the university (i am not sure, how to you call it in English, it is an exam in front of a state-supervised committee, looks dead serious), I was wearing my stuff - yet I had the easiest time, because I had the most knowledge. And thies happens over and over. I want to impress people by who I am and what I can do, not how I look and I have been incredibly succesfull in this in my life. For many years, I do even have a side-job that consists of leturing people on astronomy (sometimes in broad daylight  ) on a public observatory and nobody over there dares to say a word about my looks either. If I were offered a dress-coded job, I would gladly decline, no matter how much money would be in it. To me, being able to dress as I want to is one of the stepping stones (yet just one very small part) of my life dream that I am living now: freedom. It is more amazing that you can imagine. And I got married in style, too  ![[image loading]](http://ccd.wz.cz/svatba.jpg) (Oh, the look on the city offiial doing the ceremony when he entered the room, that was priceless! The poor guy had no idea, what waits for hime inside. It has been 4 years and random people still talk about the wedding. We even got guests that we never saw before, they just heard baout us and wanted to see what happens, I our personalities get combined with osmething so serious as a wedding. Hell, they got what they wanted!) I say go more minimalist on the attitude as well ^^ Would love to know what that guy does for a living. There is a difference between dressing casually/not caring about your attire all the much to looking like a bum who should be living on the street. I honestly don't think you could even get a job at McDonalds if you dressed like that for the interview. I bet he is very very in his field, that is how he is able to do it. I worked at NASA for a summer you should see how many of them dress. When you are in the top .1% of your field people let you get away with dressing however you please because they need you. Also technical fields tend place less importance on how people dress. Personally I enjoy dressing well, and am never going to be at the top of my field so I will take any boost it gives me in how people see me as well. I think it is nice if people dress well but come on. You do not need to be in the top .1 % to get a job even if you do not dress fashionably/well. Actual skills and know how matters. But of course being able to demonstrate that you are aware of social codes and that you are able to adhere to them by dressing correctly for the occasion is often a necessary skill in many lines of work. Actually it seems to me that the lines of work where dressing well is necessary is in the minority. Advisory, finance, court stuff, politics are the ones that pop up in my mind. I think the reason why is that you need to instill a high degree of trust quickly and clothes are very useful in doing so. And just to put things in perspective, has it occurred to you that dressing fashionably can also give you negative reactions as to how people perceive you? But this is not what I wanted to post about at all. I was just going to say that I enjoy this thread and find a lot of the advice and guides useful. Thanks 
It sounds strange, but I actually have to dress worse on purpose for my job. I am working in a very technical field (Google has nothing on me) and my boss and coworkers are pretty stereotypically poor at fashion as computer engineers. I dress worse than my boss daily so that he knows I am not attempting to move out of my current situation. As I gather more credentials (outside of the office), I have been slowly improving my clothing to reflect my status. My wardrobe is stacked, and I actually purposely bought ill fitted jeans and shirts.
Thus, i whole heartedly agree that dressing fashionably can give negative reactions, but I would extend that to say that knowledge of fashion and knowing how to use fashion correctly is never a bad thing. dressing fashionably in the wrong situation is hardly dressing fashionably at all.
EDIT: You also cant please everyone all the time, so dress accordingly. If you were interviewing at google, then maybe jeans and a nerdy t-shirt would work well with one interviewer, and flop with another. This is what wearing a versatile outfit is all about. I tend to avoid wearing a jacket as it pidgeonholes me, where a well fitted shirt and a nice pair of slacks/jeans can be classy/smart/laid back depending on how you wear it.
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So via the Google Glass thread I found this.
And I REALLY want that girls jacket. I'm a guy, so I guess something more masculine would be appropriate. Just a light leather jacket for spring/fall. Anyone have any leads/suggestions?
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On April 05 2012 10:31 FecalFrown wrote:So via the Google Glass thread I found this. And I REALLY want that girls jacket. I'm a guy, so I guess something more masculine would be appropriate. Just a light leather jacket for spring/fall. Anyone have any leads/suggestions?
Here is one with the same button around the neck, and general fit.
http://www.danier.com/leather-men-bomber-jackets-204060082-P5981.aspx?lang=en
There are about 5 or 6 other jackets if you flip through the pages of jackets in the section I linked you to that are similar to the one you want, in different colours and styles.
You can look elsewhere also obviously. You are looking for a "bomber" jacket.
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I'm assuming that I'm not the only nerd on this forum who's had this problem. I've had really bad acne since I was 12, I've tried all the big products, and all of them just seemed to make it worse. Eventually I just went in and got the hardcore meds and now it's pretty manageable. I still have the same problem with products, that if I wash my face in anything but water, I get a bad rash + acne, and my skin looks awful. But if I don;t wash it in a product my face just feels oily all day. This might be cause by some kind of allergy, because my sister has a similar problem. Does anyone have a very,very gentle wash they can recommend? Edit: completely off topic but, where can I find some dress shirts, I have a weird body shape,I'm fairly muscular with a long body, medium shoulders, and long arms.
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Ah, I find that I will enjoy this thread a lot.
I didn't really "improving" (if you want to call it that) my appearance until a little under 2 years ago. What i did was I shopped at places that had nice collared shirts (button down, polos, etc.) and nice sweaters and ties (I've yet to buy a cardigan, though =\ ). I didn't just go on a spending spree and bought everything all at once; I gradually added to my wardrobe by buying something nice once every 2 weeks or so.
But aside from that, I need some advice over where to shop. I've been getting a lot of stuff from express, and i was kind of hoping i could find places that are cheaper, but still have the same quality items. Can anyone give me advice on that? =D
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On April 05 2012 11:15 Focuspants wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2012 10:31 FecalFrown wrote:So via the Google Glass thread I found this. And I REALLY want that girls jacket. I'm a guy, so I guess something more masculine would be appropriate. Just a light leather jacket for spring/fall. Anyone have any leads/suggestions? Here is one with the same button around the neck, and general fit. http://www.danier.com/leather-men-bomber-jackets-204060082-P5981.aspx?lang=enThere are about 5 or 6 other jackets if you flip through the pages of jackets in the section I linked you to that are similar to the one you want, in different colours and styles. You can look elsewhere also obviously. You are looking for a "bomber" jacket.
You are a boss. Appreciate it.
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On April 05 2012 11:17 Retgery wrote: I'm assuming that I'm not the only nerd on this forum who's had this problem. I've had really bad acne since I was 12, I've tried all the big products, and all of them just seemed to make it worse. Eventually I just went in and got the hardcore meds and now it's pretty manageable. I still have the same problem with products, that if I wash my face in anything but water, I get a bad rash + acne, and my skin looks awful. But if I don;t wash it in a product my face just feels oily all day. This might be cause by some kind of allergy, because my sister has a similar problem. Does anyone have a very,very gentle wash they can recommend?
Not sure about really bad Acne but especially when my hair grows out a bit I get some mild acne as well. I find this stuff works pretty well: http://www.spectroskincare.com/acne_sensitive_skin_vanishing_lotion.aspx I just rub it on my face when I go to bed and wash it off in the morning, it takes a few days of continuous use for it to have an effect. If it's really that bad then dermatologist is the way to go, Spectro's products are pretty solid though.
Also any thoughts on these in here?: http://www.eastlandshoe.com/product/mens falmouth boat shoe camp moccasin.do?sortby=priceDescend&refType=4 Still looking to get my first pair of non sneakers/runners shoes, there's just so much variety though ._.
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Hmm, I took a look at those but I'm kinda iffy on them. I'm definitely willing to drop some money into quality shoes since I tend to run them into the ground walking around all day. Also I don't think I could pull those off lol, mentioned it earlier in the thread but right now my wardrobe is 'engineering student' >_> I've read good things about various mocs and how they're easy to match with but once again so many choices of brands D: (Also I live in the fashion wasteland called Vancouver)
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I would look into Sperry's if I were you. There are literally hundreds of different models, and their quality for their price has been very good. I own 3 different pairs myself.
As for fashion wasteland, other than suit shopping, it isnt much better here. We have all the extremely pricey brands, but good quality at a good price is near non-existant. I do 95% of my shopping online through US retailers or on eBay. The prices, and quality of items at those prices are WAY better. That, and the US has a sale culture in their stores. They are constantly running sales. If you keep an eye out, you can likely get what you want for cheaper on random days and weekends, just because they feel like it. Its not like here where you have like 2 sales a year and you get 10-25% off.
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On April 05 2012 07:03 Focuspants wrote:
And for the gentleman on the previous page asking about black tie. Black tie is supposed to mean black dinner jacket (Tuxedo) white shirt, bowtie, waistcoat, cumberbund, that sort of deal. If people show up in jeans, they have severely misinterpreted the dress code. Black tie is the second most formal dress requirement. One of the only times black is actually suggested and appropriate.
This is relevant to me, black tie event coming up next week(end). Seems a little too much for someone's 18th birthday party...
But I mean, whatever right? Mine was pretty much the same without the dress code.
Recommend I just rent a tuxedo, or purchase. I'm an incoming college student.
Or can I get away with a black suit/bowtie/vest?
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I wouldnt buy one unless you forsee yourself getting serious use out of it in the near future. If its just an 18th b-day party, youll probably be fine with what youre planning on wearing. Something tells me most 17 year olds dont have tuxes, and many will likely resort to what youre planning.
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On April 05 2012 07:31 Focuspants wrote: Since they want something dressy, and it sounds like its in the evening, I would go with a charcoal gray suit. Keep the tie and pocket square toward the subtle end of things. That would be my advice based on what youve given me so far. Of course a darker "true" navy suit could work as well. I would avoid anything patterned.
Thanks for the advice. Navy isn't as big on this side of the ocean as it is on yours it seems, I don't come across many of them. I also seem to remember some discussions with I think zatic about it I think. An option I did come across was a very dark blue which would appear black at evenings (it is indeed an evening party), but it had to be hand-made and hand-imported from Italy, not enough time/money for that. Most stuff on stock is indeed black, but one store will probably have charcoal in my size, will have a look at that.
Another option I have is from a webshop with these two, stock sizes, not expensive and 100 wool, stock size fits me perfectly (based on about 5 trials with various smokings yesterday). Would the cream jacket with black pants be too much? I like the James Bond-ish look of it. Total would amount to about 140 inc shirt and bow tie. The black one 'd be 150 with shirt/tie.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/H8109.png)
Or should I go for a more modern lapel?
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On April 05 2012 09:00 RoyGBiv_13 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2012 21:40 Grend wrote:On April 03 2012 06:59 jamesr12 wrote:On April 03 2012 05:29 PrimeTimey wrote:On April 02 2012 17:59 nepeta wrote:On March 29 2012 17:47 opisska wrote:Please, don't take the following post as trolling. I just thought that people reading this thread make an interesting audience to hearing something about ... me  I am almost 30 now and I weared a suit exactly 4 times in my life. Three times because my mother made me so: for two immatriculations (high school and university) and the final exam from the high school - and once for kinf of a joke activity with my friends (and I got to keep my hiking shoes at least  ). And that is it. Dressing as I want has become an importatnt part of my life since I left my parents' home ten years ago. I do not own a single shirt and my whole wardrobe is a couple of outdoor pants and a lot of t-shirts, mainfly from the "clothes for workers" store, 5$ each. Some people would still keep telling me: but you have to dress for X to be successfull. No, I don't. Everyone was wearing a suit for the final exam from the university (i am not sure, how to you call it in English, it is an exam in front of a state-supervised committee, looks dead serious), I was wearing my stuff - yet I had the easiest time, because I had the most knowledge. And thies happens over and over. I want to impress people by who I am and what I can do, not how I look and I have been incredibly succesfull in this in my life. For many years, I do even have a side-job that consists of leturing people on astronomy (sometimes in broad daylight  ) on a public observatory and nobody over there dares to say a word about my looks either. If I were offered a dress-coded job, I would gladly decline, no matter how much money would be in it. To me, being able to dress as I want to is one of the stepping stones (yet just one very small part) of my life dream that I am living now: freedom. It is more amazing that you can imagine. And I got married in style, too  ![[image loading]](http://ccd.wz.cz/svatba.jpg) (Oh, the look on the city offiial doing the ceremony when he entered the room, that was priceless! The poor guy had no idea, what waits for hime inside. It has been 4 years and random people still talk about the wedding. We even got guests that we never saw before, they just heard baout us and wanted to see what happens, I our personalities get combined with osmething so serious as a wedding. Hell, they got what they wanted!) I say go more minimalist on the attitude as well ^^ Would love to know what that guy does for a living. There is a difference between dressing casually/not caring about your attire all the much to looking like a bum who should be living on the street. I honestly don't think you could even get a job at McDonalds if you dressed like that for the interview. I bet he is very very in his field, that is how he is able to do it. I worked at NASA for a summer you should see how many of them dress. When you are in the top .1% of your field people let you get away with dressing however you please because they need you. Also technical fields tend place less importance on how people dress. Personally I enjoy dressing well, and am never going to be at the top of my field so I will take any boost it gives me in how people see me as well. I think it is nice if people dress well but come on. You do not need to be in the top .1 % to get a job even if you do not dress fashionably/well. Actual skills and know how matters. But of course being able to demonstrate that you are aware of social codes and that you are able to adhere to them by dressing correctly for the occasion is often a necessary skill in many lines of work. Actually it seems to me that the lines of work where dressing well is necessary is in the minority. Advisory, finance, court stuff, politics are the ones that pop up in my mind. I think the reason why is that you need to instill a high degree of trust quickly and clothes are very useful in doing so. And just to put things in perspective, has it occurred to you that dressing fashionably can also give you negative reactions as to how people perceive you? But this is not what I wanted to post about at all. I was just going to say that I enjoy this thread and find a lot of the advice and guides useful. Thanks  It sounds strange, but I actually have to dress worse on purpose for my job. I am working in a very technical field (Google has nothing on me) and my boss and coworkers are pretty stereotypically poor at fashion as computer engineers. I dress worse than my boss daily so that he knows I am not attempting to move out of my current situation. As I gather more credentials (outside of the office), I have been slowly improving my clothing to reflect my status. My wardrobe is stacked, and I actually purposely bought ill fitted jeans and shirts. Thus, i whole heartedly agree that dressing fashionably can give negative reactions, but I would extend that to say that knowledge of fashion and knowing how to use fashion correctly is never a bad thing. dressing fashionably in the wrong situation is hardly dressing fashionably at all. EDIT: You also cant please everyone all the time, so dress accordingly. If you were interviewing at google, then maybe jeans and a nerdy t-shirt would work well with one interviewer, and flop with another. This is what wearing a versatile outfit is all about. I tend to avoid wearing a jacket as it pidgeonholes me, where a well fitted shirt and a nice pair of slacks/jeans can be classy/smart/laid back depending on how you wear it.
Good words. Hilarious that you have had to buy crappy clothes. Don't you feel awkward wearing them?
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