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On January 06 2012 17:06 DigiGnar wrote:Here you go. Show nested quote +Scientists at the Oregon National Primate Research Centre produced the animals, known as chimeras, by sticking together between three and six rhesus monkey embryos in the early stages of their development. I thought this was impossible, mixing different gene types and producing life, even thought they were all primate genes. This is a really big step in science, and hopefully one we get to really explore. There's just too much knowledge to pass up.
Mules. They are crossbred between horses and donkeys. Although, this is definitely a huge step, especially if there are no significant mutations.
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The ethical problems with this are astronomic, but from a philosophical stand, interesting. I say they push this to its very limit and see how deep down the rabbit hole goes.
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On January 06 2012 17:18 Junichi wrote:
Great.... now it's just a matter of time till we have flying tarantulas.. fml...
DUDE, shut the fuck up, i will kill myself if that day happens.
I dont know whats so very great about all this tbh, "lets fuck around with genes trololol" ?
Or will it allow for some epic way of creating cures for things?
Creating spiderman = bad.
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those are some creepy fingers
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On January 06 2012 18:31 Friedrich Nietzsche wrote:
The ethical problems with this are astronomic, but from a philosophical stand, interesting. I say they push this to its very limit and see how deep down the rabbit hole goes.
Are they modified rabbits digging these holes?
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On January 06 2012 17:09 Probe1 wrote:![[image loading]](http://images.wikia.com/southpark/images/1/1e/4assed_monkey.gif) Okay now that thats out of the way.. what the hell man lol. Point of order- they're all rhesus monkies so they aren't actually chimeras. Amazing none the less.
All chimera means is an organism with cells that have different genomes. Anyone who gets a bone marrow transplant is a chimera, because white blood cells are created from stem cells in bone marrow, so they'll have genomes matching that of the bone marrow donor.
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It's surprising how people that misunderstand science completely overreact to this kind of news. Sad and a little worrying. I'm glad I work in education. (In reference to the comments in the guardian article).
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On January 06 2012 17:37 gosuMalicE wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2012 17:32 Chaosvuistje wrote:
Amazing, imagine all the possibilities! If I had the power to unethically forge creatures together I would definitely get a bird with 4 heads just so they never stop chirping.
It's good advancement, but we'll have to ask the question of how ethical this is every step of the way. How could this be unethical they are animals, unless they stared doing it to humans, which I highly doubt will happen.
Just because they are animals doesn't mean they don't deserve rights.
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On January 06 2012 17:06 DigiGnar wrote:Here you go. Show nested quote +Scientists at the Oregon National Primate Research Centre produced the animals, known as chimeras, by sticking together between three and six rhesus monkey embryos in the early stages of their development. I thought this was impossible, mixing different gene types and producing life, even thought they were all primate genes. This is a really big step in science, and hopefully one we get to really explore. There's just too much knowledge to pass up.
Chimeras are not really that new and happen to exist also naturally.
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On January 06 2012 18:21 aksfjh wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2012 17:06 DigiGnar wrote:Here you go. Scientists at the Oregon National Primate Research Centre produced the animals, known as chimeras, by sticking together between three and six rhesus monkey embryos in the early stages of their development. I thought this was impossible, mixing different gene types and producing life, even thought they were all primate genes. This is a really big step in science, and hopefully one we get to really explore. There's just too much knowledge to pass up. Mules. They are crossbred between horses and donkeys. Although, this is definitely a huge step, especially if there are no significant mutations.
This isn't combining species. As poster above notes, a chimera simply means you have cells/tissues with different genomes. This happens a lot in people just by chance, actually. There are extreme examples like Blaschko's lines, but it's much more common that you simply have a random subset of tissues that are fully or partially a distinct genome than the majority of your cells. It's essentially being composed of yourself + a twin or sibling's genes, but in the same person, and it makes absolutely no difference.
As an example, chimerism is one possible scenario that produces different colored eyes, but I'm not sure it's the most frequent source.
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On January 06 2012 18:21 aksfjh wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2012 17:06 DigiGnar wrote:Here you go. Scientists at the Oregon National Primate Research Centre produced the animals, known as chimeras, by sticking together between three and six rhesus monkey embryos in the early stages of their development. I thought this was impossible, mixing different gene types and producing life, even thought they were all primate genes. This is a really big step in science, and hopefully one we get to really explore. There's just too much knowledge to pass up. Mules. They are crossbred between horses and donkeys. Although, this is definitely a huge step, especially if there are no significant mutations.
Chimera's are not crossovers between species, there is no mixing of genomes. They are basically n (mostly 2) separate organisms within one, or more specifically the resultant organism is composed of cells where each cell has one of the n genomes.
EDIT: I tried to explain it with my own words not using too much space, but frankly failed, wiki will probably have proper definition that should be easily understandable 
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This is freaking awesome.
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holy smackquack this is amazing and awesome news wish i could create my own chimera animals someday
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"Rise of the planet of the Apes"
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This discovery is very scary. One day, they might be able to start combining genomes of humans, resulting in superhumans...
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I don't get it, they gained the ability to fuse multiple animals into one and rather than making a real chimera out of a lion, snake and eagle they make a single headed monkey that should have had six heads? I am disappointed.
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Wait for the with your powers combined I am platypus! Picture
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Woah woah woah, calm down! This is cool, but all the "OMFG WERE ALMOST ABOUT TO DO SOMETHING HUGE" comments are ... ridiculous! Generating chimeras has been well understood for decades. No doubt, experiments in chimeric organisms has elucidated a huge amount of information in the field of stem cell and regenerative biology, but this particular experiment is nothing more than an extension of something that has been going on for years.
To all the people who say "omg maybe one day we'll put two people's genomes together!". We won't. We can actually already do that NOW. We could probably make chimeric humans, RIGHT NOW, if we wanted to do so. They wouldn't be healthy in all likelihood, but the concept has been around for a while.
To those interested, chick-quail chimeric animal studies have proven very useful in the elucidation of the neural crest stem cell population, a potential source of neurally-derived stem cells analogous to the hematopoietic stem cell of the blood system. Could be useful in fixing cleft lip & palate malformation pre-natally, thereby mitigating the need for expensive reconstructive surgical procedures.
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On January 06 2012 17:55 morninglightmountain wrote:Pffft, TL had this figured out ages ago. + Show Spoiler +I'm not really sure what the use of this is tbh, they say it has 'huge implications for science' and then don't elaborate. I bet i'm not going to benefit from this in my lifetime for sure...
I don't know how to explain with details, but basically, you could use animals to produce a whole new human organ. If this is ethical or not, is a whole another story.
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Make more -> mass sale =)
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