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Bloodash
Netherlands1384 Posts
On December 21 2011 18:02 Smaug.GR wrote: 2,5min trailer, not a single shot of Smaug. meh. I think Smaug doesn't get any screentime in this part, its been a long time since I've read the book but I'm pretty sure Smaug was at the very end, so we'll have to wait another year for part 2 | ||
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Ciryandor
United States3735 Posts
On December 21 2011 18:11 gruff wrote: Agreed. I read re-read silmarillion quite recently and I have a hard time seeing how you'd turn that into a working movie. The only way it would work is to take one small part of the book and expand on that. I honestly think that if you take History of Middle Earth material as well, you can easily make 5 movies out of the First Age, and that there's enough material for the Akallabeth and the Last Alliance for another movie as well. I'll repost something I typed up on Reddit with respect to splitting the Silmarillion and dividing it into films. Here's how I would split the book to movies: The Fall of Feanor could encompass his creation of the Silmarils, the destruction of the Trees then ramp to the Kinslaying as its greatest tragedy, leading ultimately to the march across the Helcaraxe and ends with the Dagor-nuin-Giliath with the death of Feanor. The Lay of Leithian will cover Beren and Luthien, with a prologue of the Battle of Sudden Flame, ending with the forging of the Union of Maedhros. Narn i Chîn Húrin then covers everything from the Union all the way to the death of Turin; the presence of Glaurung sets the tone for the following movie. The Fall of Gondolin will be the penultimate in the series; showing Tuor's journey, his marriage to Idril, Maeglin's betrayal and the Fall of Gondolin and Glorfindel's battle with the Balrog! It will end with Earendil and Elwing meeting in Arvernien, then we proceed to the last. The Rise of the Morning Star is a dual-pronged name, referring to Earendil and his journey to the West, the War of Wrath, the opening of Eressea, and the raising of Numenor for the Edain. | ||
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
Oh and I just finished watching the bonus documentaries for the production of the LOTR films. You wouldn't believe how much blood, sweat and tears thousands of people put in to make them what it is. I have absolute confidence that this will be just as good. Oh, and I hope Andy Serkis gets more recognition as Gollum. Just imagine how much better the character will be after Weta Digital's work on Avatar and Rise of the Planet of the Apes. They'll really be able to fully capture Andy's performance. | ||
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Vorenius
Denmark1979 Posts
On December 21 2011 16:52 stormtemplar wrote: The main problem with the sillmarilion as I read it is that you can't just DO the silmarillion. It would take three films of its own. There is such a vast oversupply of characters, places, wars and dates in first and second age history, even when narrowed down to the stories of the simarills that despite spending the vast majority of the non-LOTR/Hobbit writing time on that time period, Tolkien was nowhere near completing it when he died. You could make ten films of it and it would still be a mess. Even a chapter in silmarillion is often on the same scale as the entire LotR, and that took 3 movies. You could probably make a movie about Beren and Luthien or some other story from the silmarilion, but I doubt there's an audience for a big budget movie (and it woud suck as a low budget movie) | ||
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EdSlyB
Portugal1621 Posts
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CAPSLOCKED
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Arisen
United States2382 Posts
With "The Hobbit" I hope that they delve a bit more into the depth of the world to create the sense that this is a complete new world, not just a story with a setting it's housed in. | ||
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NeonFox
2373 Posts
On December 21 2011 18:41 3clipse wrote: Hmm... hate to be a buzzkill, but the trailer didn't really thrill me. I might see it, but I just can't get excited for it like I could with the LOTR trilogy. Same, I actually like the Hobbit book more than the lotr ones, I guess this is more a teaser than a trailer, there's none of the epic moments. Edit : On second thought for once a trailer that doesn't show all the movie beforehand is a great thing. | ||
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ZergX
France436 Posts
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Thorakh
Netherlands1788 Posts
On December 21 2011 13:19 SupLilSon wrote: If one of the movies is less than 2.5 hours I will personally go to Jackson's house and force him to remake them*.Doesn't seem like a problem to me.. I mean, do you honestly think anyone would be satisfied if he rehashed the Hobbit into an hour and a half of cinema? *this might actually just be me being tough on the internet I can actually understand Cartman in that episode where he froze himself now. | ||
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Mafe
Germany5966 Posts
I wonder if/how they will make each of the 13 dwarfs unique. In the book, most of them had no personal backstory and no real individuality. I believe Tolkien missed some interesting possibilities here. I do not like the look of Thorin Oakenshield. I always thought of him as one of the oldest of the dwarfs, with a beard longer than his hair. He looks more like an arrogant leader in the prime of his strength and more like a small human than a huge dwarf. Not like the king of a lost kingdom, who turned bitter through a live of disappointments, who feels superior to everyone around him and who now tries to have one last shot to restore the long lost glory of his family. At least that was he used to be in my memory. | ||
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Grumbels
Netherlands7031 Posts
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
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Skilledblob
Germany3392 Posts
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Roggay
Switzerland6320 Posts
On December 21 2011 17:39 SilverLeagueElite wrote: You can't do Silmarillion as a movie. Too many short stories. You'd need a TV mini series or something. Yea and even the short stories are waaaaay too confusing. A third of the book is just genealogical trees! | ||
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blubbdavid
Switzerland2412 Posts
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Spitfire
South Africa442 Posts
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Steel
Japan2283 Posts
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NeWeNiyaLord
Norway2474 Posts
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Kreb
4834 Posts
Oh well, hoping for a great movie! | ||
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