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AGsc
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada120 Posts
November 27 2011 04:06 GMT
#21
This is an amazing initiative, the problem of child soldiers in particular needs as much visibility as possible.
Back off man, I'm a scientist.
Zvek
Profile Joined November 2011
Faroe Islands102 Posts
November 27 2011 04:10 GMT
#22
On November 27 2011 13:06 Soap wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 12:52 CrazyAsian wrote:
On November 27 2011 12:50 Soap wrote:
And how exactly selling them for a fortune hinders their production? What a terrible idea.


They could sell them for a fortune and not destroy any guns at all, why is that such a bad idea. At least they are trying to make the world a better place, every bit counts. What a terrible post you made.


How does it prevent those guns from simply being replaced? If anything it fosters gunrunning.

Guns are an instrument, not the cause. Even if all guns but one were removed, it would mean the last armed man gets to rule.

Besides I wonder how those are acquiring those weapons, I can't picture militias voluntarily turning in theirs or NGOs raiding arsenals.

Sir, this is such a dark outlook on life, and an outright distrust on humanity. There are good people too you know, and if enough people do good, AK47, and war, will be history.
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10346 Posts
November 27 2011 04:11 GMT
#23
On November 27 2011 13:10 Zvek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 13:06 Soap wrote:
On November 27 2011 12:52 CrazyAsian wrote:
On November 27 2011 12:50 Soap wrote:
And how exactly selling them for a fortune hinders their production? What a terrible idea.


They could sell them for a fortune and not destroy any guns at all, why is that such a bad idea. At least they are trying to make the world a better place, every bit counts. What a terrible post you made.


How does it prevent those guns from simply being replaced? If anything it fosters gunrunning.

Guns are an instrument, not the cause. Even if all guns but one were removed, it would mean the last armed man gets to rule.

Besides I wonder how those are acquiring those weapons, I can't picture militias voluntarily turning in theirs or NGOs raiding arsenals.

Sir, this is such a dark outlook on life, and an outright distrust on humanity. There are good people too you know, and if enough people do good, AK47, and war, will be history.

Holy shit, barf bag for me and a reality check for my friend here, please.
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Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
November 27 2011 04:12 GMT
#24
On November 27 2011 13:10 Zvek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 13:06 Soap wrote:
On November 27 2011 12:52 CrazyAsian wrote:
On November 27 2011 12:50 Soap wrote:
And how exactly selling them for a fortune hinders their production? What a terrible idea.


They could sell them for a fortune and not destroy any guns at all, why is that such a bad idea. At least they are trying to make the world a better place, every bit counts. What a terrible post you made.


How does it prevent those guns from simply being replaced? If anything it fosters gunrunning.

Guns are an instrument, not the cause. Even if all guns but one were removed, it would mean the last armed man gets to rule.

Besides I wonder how those are acquiring those weapons, I can't picture militias voluntarily turning in theirs or NGOs raiding arsenals.

Sir, this is such a dark outlook on life, and an outright distrust on humanity. There are good people too you know, and if enough people do good, AK47, and war, will be history.

Converting AK47s to jewelry sends the message that violent and destructive things can become beautiful and peaceful. It's a good message.
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Little Rage Box
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States84 Posts
November 27 2011 04:13 GMT
#25
While this is a great idea, I feel that it is just that, and idea. I applaud Mr. Thum for his efforts to try and end suffering in war torn regions, he will have to make a lot of jewelry to have any sort of impact.

And lets not forget that the only way he is getting his hands on these Ak's is because people are willing to hand them over. Now some of these might be handed over by a faction who just won a tribal war and feels that getting rid of the weapons will disarm the conquered.

Plus major nations will still sell weapons to anyone fighting a political enemy or opponent of theirs.

But hey, as long as he doesn't come for my Remington he can destroy all the guns he wants.
Zealotdriver
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1557 Posts
November 27 2011 04:13 GMT
#26
On November 27 2011 13:06 Soap wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 12:52 CrazyAsian wrote:
On November 27 2011 12:50 Soap wrote:
And how exactly selling them for a fortune hinders their production? What a terrible idea.


They could sell them for a fortune and not destroy any guns at all, why is that such a bad idea. At least they are trying to make the world a better place, every bit counts. What a terrible post you made.


How does it prevent those guns from simply being replaced? If anything it fosters gunrunning.

Guns are an instrument, not the cause. Even if all guns but one were removed, it would mean the last armed man gets to rule.

Besides I wonder how those are acquiring those weapons, I can't picture militias voluntarily turning in theirs or NGOs raiding arsenals.

Fonderie 47is worse than useless.
Turn off the radio
Zvek
Profile Joined November 2011
Faroe Islands102 Posts
November 27 2011 04:13 GMT
#27
On November 27 2011 13:11 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 13:10 Zvek wrote:
On November 27 2011 13:06 Soap wrote:
On November 27 2011 12:52 CrazyAsian wrote:
On November 27 2011 12:50 Soap wrote:
And how exactly selling them for a fortune hinders their production? What a terrible idea.


They could sell them for a fortune and not destroy any guns at all, why is that such a bad idea. At least they are trying to make the world a better place, every bit counts. What a terrible post you made.


How does it prevent those guns from simply being replaced? If anything it fosters gunrunning.

Guns are an instrument, not the cause. Even if all guns but one were removed, it would mean the last armed man gets to rule.

Besides I wonder how those are acquiring those weapons, I can't picture militias voluntarily turning in theirs or NGOs raiding arsenals.

Sir, this is such a dark outlook on life, and an outright distrust on humanity. There are good people too you know, and if enough people do good, AK47, and war, will be history.

Holy shit, barf bag for me and a reality check for my friend here, please.

Wait, I don't want to be confused here, but please speak plainly. Is this sarcasm or what?
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
November 27 2011 04:14 GMT
#28
On November 27 2011 13:11 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 13:10 Zvek wrote:
On November 27 2011 13:06 Soap wrote:
On November 27 2011 12:52 CrazyAsian wrote:
On November 27 2011 12:50 Soap wrote:
And how exactly selling them for a fortune hinders their production? What a terrible idea.


They could sell them for a fortune and not destroy any guns at all, why is that such a bad idea. At least they are trying to make the world a better place, every bit counts. What a terrible post you made.


How does it prevent those guns from simply being replaced? If anything it fosters gunrunning.

Guns are an instrument, not the cause. Even if all guns but one were removed, it would mean the last armed man gets to rule.

Besides I wonder how those are acquiring those weapons, I can't picture militias voluntarily turning in theirs or NGOs raiding arsenals.

Sir, this is such a dark outlook on life, and an outright distrust on humanity. There are good people too you know, and if enough people do good, AK47, and war, will be history.

Holy shit, barf bag for me and a reality check for my friend here, please.

You're right that in the large scale of things this will do nothing. Who cares. Take your pessimism elsewhere. I personally think this story is very uplifting and believe that what they are doing is pretty cool.
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NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
November 27 2011 04:14 GMT
#29
Interesting how they don't make other guns into jewelry too.. I don't think I would ever wear that.. seems bulky, etc.

Would you ?

Poll: Would you wear that thing?

Yes (35)
 
52%

No (32)
 
48%

67 total votes

Your vote: Would you wear that thing?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No


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Warpath
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1242 Posts
November 27 2011 04:15 GMT
#30
Left image is obviously some kind of goggle.
Cool stuff though, neat how parts of a weapon manage to be reassembled like that.
iSometric
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
2221 Posts
November 27 2011 04:15 GMT
#31
Is that a bracelet or a random decoration piece?
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Zealotdriver
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1557 Posts
November 27 2011 04:16 GMT
#32
On November 27 2011 13:14 NuKedUFirst wrote:
Interesting how they don't make other guns into jewelry too.. I don't think I would ever wear that.. seems bulky, etc.

Would you ?

Poll: Would you wear that thing?

Yes (35)
 
52%

No (32)
 
48%

67 total votes

Your vote: Would you wear that thing?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No



I would never wear that ugly crap. The rifles should be recycled rather than waste valuable energy and machining resources on producing this useless junk.
Turn off the radio
Keitzer
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2509 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-27 04:18:36
November 27 2011 04:17 GMT
#33
is that a bracelet? and how much...?

edit: it's like steam-punk... with less steam, lol
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Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
November 27 2011 04:17 GMT
#34
On November 27 2011 12:50 Soap wrote:
And how exactly selling them for a fortune hinders their production? What a terrible idea.


A wise man once said: it's the thought that counts

don't be a douche, cool idea for a good cause!
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Dr. Strange
Profile Joined October 2011
Slovakia25 Posts
November 27 2011 04:19 GMT
#35
Lets be honest here, this is cute, but does absolutely nothing at all in terms of educating people or helping to stop the war. It is similar to a billionaire donating computers to a third world school without the complementary education requirements. The net effect is totally zero, if not negative.
Soap
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil1546 Posts
November 27 2011 04:20 GMT
#36
On November 27 2011 13:10 Zvek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 13:06 Soap wrote:
On November 27 2011 12:52 CrazyAsian wrote:
On November 27 2011 12:50 Soap wrote:
And how exactly selling them for a fortune hinders their production? What a terrible idea.


They could sell them for a fortune and not destroy any guns at all, why is that such a bad idea. At least they are trying to make the world a better place, every bit counts. What a terrible post you made.


How does it prevent those guns from simply being replaced? If anything it fosters gunrunning.

Guns are an instrument, not the cause. Even if all guns but one were removed, it would mean the last armed man gets to rule.

Besides I wonder how those are acquiring those weapons, I can't picture militias voluntarily turning in theirs or NGOs raiding arsenals.

Sir, this is such a dark outlook on life, and an outright distrust on humanity. There are good people too you know, and if enough people do good, AK47, and war, will be history.


Uh, sure, but this does no good at all. If I start buying cocaine am I going to curb consumption? No, at best if I buy a lot of it the prices will rise momentarily and stimulate production.
hellbound
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2242 Posts
November 27 2011 04:22 GMT
#37
Kalashnikov producers all over the world rejoice, Africa needs their AKs lost to silly jewellery marketing replaced.
Zvek
Profile Joined November 2011
Faroe Islands102 Posts
November 27 2011 04:25 GMT
#38
On November 27 2011 13:20 Soap wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 13:10 Zvek wrote:
On November 27 2011 13:06 Soap wrote:
On November 27 2011 12:52 CrazyAsian wrote:
On November 27 2011 12:50 Soap wrote:
And how exactly selling them for a fortune hinders their production? What a terrible idea.


They could sell them for a fortune and not destroy any guns at all, why is that such a bad idea. At least they are trying to make the world a better place, every bit counts. What a terrible post you made.


How does it prevent those guns from simply being replaced? If anything it fosters gunrunning.

Guns are an instrument, not the cause. Even if all guns but one were removed, it would mean the last armed man gets to rule.

Besides I wonder how those are acquiring those weapons, I can't picture militias voluntarily turning in theirs or NGOs raiding arsenals.

Sir, this is such a dark outlook on life, and an outright distrust on humanity. There are good people too you know, and if enough people do good, AK47, and war, will be history.


Uh, sure, but this does no good at all. If I start buying cocaine am I going to curb consumption? No, at best if I buy a lot of it the prices will rise momentarily and stimulate production.

May I remind you that the story specifically says these:
1. Recycle AK47 and sell as high-end jewelry
2. implicitly, it means sell it to high-end market, to Philanthropists and billionaires who can shell out for a cause, with a "token" to show for it.
3. and the money being used in efforts to reduce AK47s further.

So your cocaine example is way off, though it gave me huge lol (I imagine you trying to consume all those cocaine in order to save the youth of South America LOL).
yakitate304
Profile Joined April 2009
United States655 Posts
November 27 2011 04:25 GMT
#39
According to this article I googled, the image is actually a bracelet that can be broken down into cufflinks, and reassembled back into a bracelet. Pretty cool.

http://www.ablogtoread.com/fonderie-47-transforming-cufflinks-by-roland-iten
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MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10346 Posts
November 27 2011 04:26 GMT
#40
On November 27 2011 13:19 Dr. Strange wrote:
Lets be honest here, this is cute, but does absolutely nothing at all in terms of educating people or helping to stop the war. It is similar to a billionaire donating computers to a third world school without the complementary education requirements. The net effect is totally zero, if not negative.

Exactly! More nonsensical belief that weapons are the source of conflict and suffering. Weapons are merely means to an end. Improving education, funding, infrastructure and resisting corrupt governments are the only hopes for change.

This is more self-stroking marketing. Selling the idea that purchasing these things implies your helping ending wars across the world is basically what you're all looking at here.
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