On January 05 2012 10:46 mgl0x9 wrote: If SOPA passes can people still stream games and get ad revenue? EXAMPLE: SC2 (destiny) WOW (Towelliee) EVEN IF they have consent from Blizzard to do so?
or would twitch.tv///own3d.tv completely shut down?
EDIT::
anyone have a date when they start discussing this again?
Blizzard would have to enforce their copywrite, which seems unlikely. More possible imo is the chance that any music or other media shown on streams could result in action.
ahh i c thank you...
And if it does get that far anyone think it will be reviewed in the supreme court? and if so what are its chances of being deemed unconstitutional?
(I know it still has a ways to go to this point but just a question to ask ^_^)
Well the main issue is that streamers play other games as well on streaming websites like twitch-tv. And if EA doesn't like someone pointing out how sh!tty is the campaign of Battlefiled3 on his stream for example, the whole website will be censored. I don't even know if it is possible for the website to do anything, they cannot filter live-streaming and consistently check which games the streamers are playing or which music they are listening to.
On January 05 2012 02:27 FallDownMarigold wrote: This won't happen. Why? The blowback would be... very damaging to the entire integrity of the internet (whatever that means), and would send everyone into a frenzy (including big sites likes Facebook, Amazon). Surely legislators realize this.. no? Or would something like this just pass, piss people off for a couple days, then remain -- somehow I doubt it'd be that calm
The full effect of SOPA would probably not be felt immediately. Noone is gonna take down Youtube
A staged blackout for raising awareness would, imo, be exactly what is needed. Imagine the world waking up one morning with google/facebook/youtube down, those three alone would cause one hell of a shitstorm
..and not to forget some mental breakdowns for 40 year old mothers (no farmville) / facebook crazies
On January 05 2012 02:27 FallDownMarigold wrote: This won't happen. Why? The blowback would be... very damaging to the entire integrity of the internet (whatever that means), and would send everyone into a frenzy (including big sites likes Facebook, Amazon). Surely legislators realize this.. no? Or would something like this just pass, piss people off for a couple days, then remain -- somehow I doubt it'd be that calm
The full effect of SOPA would probably not be felt immediately. Noone is gonna take down Youtube
A staged blackout for raising awareness would, imo, be exactly what is needed. Imagine the world waking up one morning with google/facebook/youtube down, those three alone would cause one hell of a shitstorm
..and not to forget some mental breakdowns for 40 year old mothers (no farmville) / facebook crazies
Facebook and Google alone are so powerful alone they could counteract the millions in slush funds paid off to politicians by the corprorate lobbyist groups (RIAA/MPAA/Sony/Wal-Mart/DuPont). I think it would be successfull.
It may just be be one of the very rare few times in political history (globally) social power orientated websites could override money and sleezy backround deals of massive wealth, that is to say whether the companies are bluffing or being serious about the blackout.
On January 24th the Senate will vote on their version of the internet censorship bill SOPA. This is our best chance to kill the internet censorship bill.
The problem? We need 41 Senators to agree not to rush a vote, and right now we've got 2. That's why we're asking you to take an unusual step: We need you to request an in-person meeting with your Senators.
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Most Senators are home right now for the January recess. And most--even those who've signed on as cosponsors--do not understand these bills and the terrible consequences they'll have for the internet, the economy, and free speech. If they're blindsided by the strength and clarity of our objections, we can bring them over to our side. The future of the internet depends on it.
If you do get a meeting you won't be alone-- post it to the forums and we'll organize others to join you. We can also provide materials and help with preparation. Leading up to the vote we'll also be swarming townhall meetings and public appearances, as they're announced. But right now, we need to set up these in-person meetings.
Please, click here to ask for a meeting. We've got your back.
We've taken the time to ask each Senator's office the best way to request a meeting. But we need you to take the plunge-- it'll only take a few minutes.
After you set up your meeting, be sure to share information on the forums. Did you get a date and time for a meeting? Did you learn any other information that will be useful for others trying to set up a meeting? If you can take on an organizing role, say so.
And please, stay active and keep spreading the word about the need to meet your Senator. There is an absolute firestorm of news and energy around stopping SOPA/PIPA on the internet, but it's not always visible to Senators and their staff.
Be visible. Schedule a meeting. This is our best chance to stop SOPA, and it could be our last.
Thanks for everything you do this month, --Holmes, Tiffiniy, Donny
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Okay, I knew the US had enormous power and influence over most of Europe, but I didn't think it was that bad, especially considering we care less about Spain than we do about say Germany, Britain, etc. Wow, people aren't kidding, we really do have the continent under our boot. Suddenly, I'm more concerned about that than about these internet censorship laws. :S
The worst part about all of this is that I live in a Texas, where my Republican representatives are more likely to light their house on fire than break rank and file in congress. As long as the person introducing the bill has a big (R) next to his name, it will get their vote.
I hope I am not ridiculously ignorant with my following question, but why would a bill in the u.s. "fundamentally change how the internet works"? Can't you avoid the bill by moving their servers to different countries?
On January 07 2012 22:51 JustPassingBy wrote: I hope I am not ridiculously ignorant with my following question, but why would a bill in the u.s. "fundamentally change how the internet works"? Can't you avoid the bill by moving their servers to different countries?
No. It's not a matter of hosting with this bill, but rather a matter of where services are getting their DNS information. If your DNS source is ultimately sourced in the U.S., then you'll be screwed. Then there's the case where much of the world looks to the U.S. as a policy leader in this area. Legislation passed in the U.S. will likely shape legislation in the EU, and give other countries an excuse to do similar (or worse) censorship.
On December 23 2011 07:45 Deleuze wrote: Hi everyone, I'm from the UK. Should this bill pass it will have global implications and knowing my government the UK may even follow the US's example....
So what I'd like to know is what I can do as a foreigner to support opposition to this bill in the US? I appreciate that this not a FAQ thread but I really care and I trust TL's collective opinion on this.
You can't so much as support Anti-SOPA. However, if you are a member of a European country in the European Union you should turn your attention to ACTA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Counterfeiting_Trade_Agreement) and provide equivalent feedback to your MP/MEP or equivalent.
If that passes the EU it will have as dire consequences as a passed SOPA.
Okay, I knew the US had enormous power and influence over most of Europe, but I didn't think it was that bad, especially considering we care less about Spain than we do about say Germany, Britain, etc. Wow, people aren't kidding, we really do have the continent under our boot. Suddenly, I'm more concerned about that than about these internet censorship laws. :S
Same thing happened in Sweden earlier in regards to copyright laws.
Edit: Years ago. Came out in the media, got quieted down quite a bit. Not an issue atm.
On January 07 2012 17:19 aksfjh wrote: The worst part about all of this is that I live in a Texas, where my Republican representatives are more likely to light their house on fire than break rank and file in congress. As long as the person introducing the bill has a big (R) next to his name, it will get their vote.
Sorta the same thing here in Georgia, every elected official is a conversative moron who doesn't think before voting.
I emailed my representative last month (Jack Kingston) and have yet to hear anything back. Maybe they just delete the emails as soon as they realize it's about SOPA, rofl.
This is tremendous in terms of finally launching this issue to mainstream status (if story holds front page status) will post in other thread too for good measure.
To the ranks of same-sex marriage, tax cuts and illegal immigration, add this to the list of polarizing political issues of Election 2012: the Stop Online Piracy Act. The hot-button anti-piracy legislation that sparked a revolt online is starting to become a political liability for some of SOPA’s major backers.
Prominent conservative blogger Erick Erickson, for one, has promised to make life miserable for any GOP lawmaker who gets behind the bill. His first target: Blackburn.
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