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Senros
Profile Joined May 2011
54 Posts
December 27 2011 02:28 GMT
#1621
Rumors are that SOPA passed? Could be BS but a few people have mentioned it and I was wondering if anyone heard something more.
JohnnyBanana
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada493 Posts
December 27 2011 02:31 GMT
#1622
On December 27 2011 11:28 Senros wrote:
Rumors are that SOPA passed? Could be BS but a few people have mentioned it and I was wondering if anyone heard something more.

It's BS. They're still marking it up.
Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
December 27 2011 03:04 GMT
#1623
Hey all, a very interesting read on the very basics of the fabric of copyright: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-12-27/copyright-is-no-longer-about-copies-part-1-commentary-by-william-patry.html

It's educational and a good rebuttal to the RIAA and MPAA et al's story of "COPYRIGHT IS HURTING ECONOMY!" argument.
Starleague Forever. RIP KT Violet~
deadmau
Profile Joined September 2010
960 Posts
December 27 2011 06:18 GMT
#1624
GoDaddy at it again my friends...just when i brushed my mouth enough to remove the disgusting taste of slimeball, these tools are at it again. Coincidence or not?

GoDaddy, accused of interfering with anti-SOPA domain swapping.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-57348511-281/godaddy-accused-of-interfering-with-anti-sopa-exodus/?tag=epicStories
slappy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1271 Posts
December 27 2011 06:49 GMT
#1625
On December 27 2011 15:18 deadmau wrote:
GoDaddy at it again my friends...just when i brushed my mouth enough to remove the disgusting taste of slimeball, these tools are at it again. Coincidence or not?

GoDaddy, accused of interfering with anti-SOPA domain swapping.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-57348511-281/godaddy-accused-of-interfering-with-anti-sopa-exodus/?tag=epicStories


wow that is some fucked up low shady shit right there. Creating technical boundaries for the 'boycotters' to not be able to successfully move their domains and actually causing problems for namecheap in the meantime .. wow
jaedong imba
deadmau
Profile Joined September 2010
960 Posts
December 27 2011 06:55 GMT
#1626
On December 27 2011 15:49 slappy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2011 15:18 deadmau wrote:
GoDaddy at it again my friends...just when i brushed my mouth enough to remove the disgusting taste of slimeball, these tools are at it again. Coincidence or not?

GoDaddy, accused of interfering with anti-SOPA domain swapping.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-57348511-281/godaddy-accused-of-interfering-with-anti-sopa-exodus/?tag=epicStories


wow that is some fucked up low shady shit right there. Creating technical boundaries for the 'boycotters' to not be able to successfully move their domains and actually causing problems for namecheap in the meantime .. wow


I'd like to note it hasn't been completely proven yet, so at most it's speculation atm, but based on their track record, they are shady as fuck.
Yefferton
Profile Joined October 2011
1 Post
December 27 2011 12:15 GMT
#1627
With all of this happening I'm kind of sickened to log in to TL and see a GoDaddy ad at the top of my screen. I know they are google ads but still just saddens me.
GloryOfAiur
Profile Joined October 2011
United States127 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-28 10:26:58
December 28 2011 10:24 GMT
#1628
Not really the government's fault is 90% of the idiots online are pirating their music, videos, and programs. You guys brought this on to yourself, and though I am sure this does not include everyone, I am sure AT LEAST half the people reading this post have pirated over $10 of things before.

So instead start asking yourself why this is happening in the first place.
+ Show Spoiler +
Also this crap bill is not going to be passed, with all the legal power behind the large companies and the lack of public interest it contains.Stop overreacting.
zedi
Profile Joined October 2010
165 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-28 10:29:04
December 28 2011 10:27 GMT
#1629
On December 28 2011 19:24 GloryOfAiur wrote:
Not really the government's fault is 90% of the idiots online are pirating their music, videos, and programs. You guys brought this on to yourself, and though I am sure this does not include everyone, I am sure AT LEAST half the people reading this post have pirated over $10 of things before.

So instead start asking yourself why this is happening in the first place.


How is this related? Have you even read the bill?

Edit: Yeah, it's not going to be passed. But prepare for what comes after.
blomsterjohn
Profile Joined June 2008
Norway474 Posts
December 28 2011 12:30 GMT
#1630
On December 28 2011 19:24 GloryOfAiur wrote:
Not really the government's fault is 90% of the idiots online are pirating their music, videos, and programs. You guys brought this on to yourself, and though I am sure this does not include everyone, I am sure AT LEAST half the people reading this post have pirated over $10 of things before.

So instead start asking yourself why this is happening in the first place.
+ Show Spoiler +
Also this crap bill is not going to be passed, with all the legal power behind the large companies and the lack of public interest it contains.Stop overreacting.


Would love to hear how you ended up with the 90% number

And you could also turn the last thing you said on its head; with all the large companies / funding backing the bill it's dangerously realistic that it could pass
gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
December 28 2011 12:54 GMT
#1631
On December 28 2011 19:24 GloryOfAiur wrote:
Not really the government's fault is 90% of the idiots online are pirating their music, videos, and programs. You guys brought this on to yourself, and though I am sure this does not include everyone, I am sure AT LEAST half the people reading this post have pirated over $10 of things before.

So instead start asking yourself why this is happening in the first place.
+ Show Spoiler +
Also this crap bill is not going to be passed, with all the legal power behind the large companies and the lack of public interest it contains.Stop overreacting.


How does it matter why it is happening? It doesn't make it any more right or wrong. Or do you propose we should be ok with it out of guilt? That's retarded. Also the issues with this bill is much larger than copyright infrigements. If you can't see that maybe you should ask yourself why so many people have a problem with it instead of just assuming it's because we want to download things for free...
DueSs
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States765 Posts
December 30 2011 17:38 GMT
#1632
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/12/30/will-google-amazon-and-facebook-blackout-net/

DO IT!
ILoveAustralia
Profile Joined October 2011
Bangladesh104 Posts
December 30 2011 17:44 GMT
#1633
Why not start a stop piracy campaign instead? O wait.. no one wants that to stop
NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
December 30 2011 17:50 GMT
#1634
On December 31 2011 02:44 ih8Australia wrote:
Why not start a stop piracy campaign instead? O wait.. no one wants that to stop


If US ips just blacklisted ThePirateBay I swear they would stop about half of the piracy in the country.
Life has won two GSLs and a Blizzard Cup. NOT three GSLs.
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
December 30 2011 17:56 GMT
#1635
People still use Pirate Bay :O

Scotland must be quaint.
[゚n゚] SSSSssssssSSsss ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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NtroP
Profile Joined July 2010
United States174 Posts
December 30 2011 17:57 GMT
#1636
On December 28 2011 19:24 GloryOfAiur wrote:
Not really the government's fault is 90% of the idiots online are pirating their music, videos, and programs. You guys brought this on to yourself, and though I am sure this does not include everyone, I am sure AT LEAST half the people reading this post have pirated over $10 of things before.

So instead start asking yourself why this is happening in the first place.
+ Show Spoiler +
Also this crap bill is not going to be passed, with all the legal power behind the large companies and the lack of public interest it contains.Stop overreacting.


Educate yourself PLEASE. I understand that it feels great to stand on a moral high ground and judge others, but if you are going to engage in public discourse at least have an inkling of the issue.
DueSs
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States765 Posts
December 30 2011 18:16 GMT
#1637
On December 31 2011 02:57 NtroP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2011 19:24 GloryOfAiur wrote:
Not really the government's fault is 90% of the idiots online are pirating their music, videos, and programs. You guys brought this on to yourself, and though I am sure this does not include everyone, I am sure AT LEAST half the people reading this post have pirated over $10 of things before.

So instead start asking yourself why this is happening in the first place.
+ Show Spoiler +
Also this crap bill is not going to be passed, with all the legal power behind the large companies and the lack of public interest it contains.Stop overreacting.


Educate yourself PLEASE. I understand that it feels great to stand on a moral high ground and judge others, but if you are going to engage in public discourse at least have an inkling of the issue.


If you're going to tell someone to educate themselves, at least poke at why they don't have "an inkling on the issue". Otherwise, you're just spouting off a blank statement of ridicule and not explaining why you're ridiculing.

I say that to not confuse the fact that I, also, think he's wrong--but I'd be interested in knowing why you think he is.
Shindo
Profile Joined August 2010
United States22 Posts
December 30 2011 19:31 GMT
#1638
On December 31 2011 03:16 DueSs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2011 02:57 NtroP wrote:
On December 28 2011 19:24 GloryOfAiur wrote:
Not really the government's fault is 90% of the idiots online are pirating their music, videos, and programs. You guys brought this on to yourself, and though I am sure this does not include everyone, I am sure AT LEAST half the people reading this post have pirated over $10 of things before.

So instead start asking yourself why this is happening in the first place.
+ Show Spoiler +
Also this crap bill is not going to be passed, with all the legal power behind the large companies and the lack of public interest it contains.Stop overreacting.


Educate yourself PLEASE. I understand that it feels great to stand on a moral high ground and judge others, but if you are going to engage in public discourse at least have an inkling of the issue.


If you're going to tell someone to educate themselves, at least poke at why they don't have "an inkling on the issue". Otherwise, you're just spouting off a blank statement of ridicule and not explaining why you're ridiculing.

I say that to not confuse the fact that I, also, think he's wrong--but I'd be interested in knowing why you think he is.


I understand your point but I don't really think he needed to. This thread alone is filled to the brim with information. He'd basically just be repeating the same things you could already read in the past 10 pages or so. In other words, I'm saying it'd be redundant.

I'll go ahead and touch on the original statement though. The law doesn't actually do anything to stop piracy and does stand to do great harm to the structure of the internet. As such, there is a clear lack of efficacy to the law and it shouldn't be permitted. There are other issues at work here but I think this is the heart of it all.
llKenZyll
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States853 Posts
December 30 2011 19:54 GMT
#1639
Anonymous has our backs. They hacked into the government and DDoS'd them because of this SoPA thing. What are the chances of this bill passing, anyway? The only people supporting it are a FEW big name companies, but the people (what really matters) are against it completely. It seems as if the government had any sense, they would realize that the people want no censorship, and that big name companies are only being greedy. Torrenting and piracy does not lose a lot of profit, maybe 2% at most. That may sound like a big deal but you are still making bank, if you are companies like Adobe or Bethesda. Seems like the government needs to open their eyes and pay attention to the real foundation of this nation, which is the people, not the greedy-ass companies.
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/nd6nd/tang_in_his_natural_habitat/
JohnnyBanana
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada493 Posts
December 30 2011 20:14 GMT
#1640
On December 31 2011 04:54 Lebzetu wrote:
Anonymous has our backs. They hacked into the government and DDoS'd them because of this SoPA thing. What are the chances of this bill passing, anyway? The only people supporting it are a FEW big name companies, but the people (what really matters) are against it completely. It seems as if the government had any sense, they would realize that the people want no censorship, and that big name companies are only being greedy. Torrenting and piracy does not lose a lot of profit, maybe 2% at most. That may sound like a big deal but you are still making bank, if you are companies like Adobe or Bethesda. Seems like the government needs to open their eyes and pay attention to the real foundation of this nation, which is the people, not the greedy-ass companies.

Anonymous hacked into Stratfor. Dumbest move yet. Stratfor is an intelligence group, yes, but they reveal almost all their information to the public anyway. There's nothing inherently 'evil' about them, I'm subscribed to their newsletter as it is. I really don't see what the heck the point of hacking them was... it would make more sense for Anon to attack SOPA/PIPA supporters, not some open-access company.
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