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Cirn9
1117 Posts
Its great wen companies say they remove their support, but if only that withdrew all their money they already gave. And ya, I heard about that godaddy bs with them not allowing, creating issues etc so people couldn't move domains. I hope someone breaks their balls over that | ||
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genesis_crimsonheart
United States81 Posts
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FallDownMarigold
United States3710 Posts
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Hikari
1914 Posts
Why do I have to live by the rules and standards of the American government? I do not want to not be able to use facebook, mediafire, etc because SOPA decided to take down those sites. | ||
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BronzeKnee
United States5212 Posts
On January 05 2012 02:27 FallDownMarigold wrote: This won't happen. Why? The blowback would be... very damaging to the entire integrity of the internet (whatever that means), and would send everyone into a frenzy (including big sites likes Facebook, Amazon). Surely legislators realize this.. no? Or would something like this just pass, piss people off for a couple days, then remain -- somehow I doubt it'd be that calm But if you are a shareholder of a major corporation you would love this to happen. You take down Facebook and put up... Headbook a corporate sponsored website filled with advertisements that is regularly policed to stifle people from posting copyrighted information or anything else that the corporation doesn't want to see on it's website. And you can even transfer your Facebook account directly to Headbook for free! And if the corporation sees a new website they don't like or anything that might compete with their website, they post copy righted information on said website and shut it down! Thus, only massive corporations with the money to police their website regularly can create a webpage on the internet. Don't think that is fair? Then don't allow copyrighted information on your website! We have become so use to freedom in the free world, that we forget it can be taken away. We have to fight for it. | ||
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MrTortoise
1388 Posts
People dont seem to get the history of the internet and how it started because there lies the answer to how it will evolve. It was built by people donating bandwidth and machines. It is being killed by companies and idiots that think companies deserve protection when they are trying to protect obsolete *physical* supply lines and infrastructures through legislation. Yes it will change the internet drastically but the beauty of the internet is that it is just a delivery mechanism. Many more are possible but because of the way law works new ones will evolve faster than law can keep up (which is how things got to the stage they have done today). I hope sopa fails. But if it succeeds what will follow will not be so bad. You will just stop using the afflicted infrastructures and move onto others but with more awareness about how governments will fuck with them ... as a result everything will be distributed and encrypted. normal innocent people will be using the technology that previously was reserved for peados and criminals massively increasing the noise level. TBH its about time all this stuff was rewritten anyway. Its about 30 years old now and is barley fit for use. There is no reason that all the stuff that people think is the internet cannot run on top of radically different mechanisms. Granted it woudl be a hack, but who cares when you save 30 years of data. | ||
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Apom
France655 Posts
On January 05 2012 03:16 MrTortoise wrote: If it passes people will just start using other protocols and infrastructures that already exist adn arnt covered by the legislation. People dont seem to get the history of the internet and how it started because there lies the answer to how it will evolve. It was built by people donating bandwidth and machines. It is being killed by companies and idiots that think companies deserve protection when they are trying to protect obsolete *physical* supply lines and infrastructures through legislation. Yes it will change the internet drastically but the beauty of the internet is that it is just a delivery mechanism. Many more are possible but because of the way law works new ones will evolve faster than law can keep up (which is how things got to the stage they have done today). I hope sopa fails. But if it succeeds what will follow will not be so bad. You will just stop using the afflicted infrastructures and move onto others but with more awareness about how governments will fuck with them ... as a result everything will be distributed and encrypted. normal innocent people will be using the technology that previously was reserved for peados and criminals massively increasing the noise level. TBH its about time all this stuff was rewritten anyway. Its about 30 years old now and is barley fit for use. There is no reason that all the stuff that people think is the internet cannot run on top of radically different mechanisms. Granted it woudl be a hack, but who cares when you save 30 years of data. It will be interesting to see how your rewritten, encrypted internet will reach the consumer when ISPs are forced to block it. Or maybe part of the rewriting includes rewiring millions of homes ? | ||
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Roflhaxx
Korea (South)1244 Posts
On January 05 2012 04:32 Apom wrote: It will be interesting to see how your rewritten, encrypted internet will reach the consumer when ISPs are forced to block it. Or maybe part of the rewriting includes rewiring millions of homes ? and replacing millions of cables all across the world. | ||
Myles
United States5162 Posts
On January 05 2012 04:32 Apom wrote: It will be interesting to see how your rewritten, encrypted internet will reach the consumer when ISPs are forced to block it. Or maybe part of the rewriting includes rewiring millions of homes ? From what I understand, they don't actually block anything. The ISP won't take you there using DNS, but you can use the IP address. | ||
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MasterBlasterCaster
United States568 Posts
Or fining car companies for drunk driving... Fuzzing bullsnack laws need to go away. | ||
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snakeeyez
United States1231 Posts
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ILoveAustralia
Bangladesh104 Posts
O wait, why would we want that.. STOPPP SOPA!!! | ||
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Apom
France655 Posts
On January 05 2012 05:24 Myles wrote: From what I understand, they don't actually block anything. The ISP won't take you there using DNS, but you can use the IP address. I did not adress SOPA specifically, as the poster I responded to did not either. | ||
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Insomni7
667 Posts
On January 05 2012 02:27 FallDownMarigold wrote: This won't happen. Why? The blowback would be... very damaging to the entire integrity of the internet (whatever that means), and would send everyone into a frenzy (including big sites likes Facebook, Amazon). Surely legislators realize this.. no? Or would something like this just pass, piss people off for a couple days, then remain -- somehow I doubt it'd be that calm The full effect of SOPA would probably not be felt immediately. Noone is gonna take down Youtube, at least not on the first day. The real danger is the slow encroachment on internet freedom over time. That is what is really scary about SOPA, however it is used this year, it will be used a little more forcefully the following year and the year after that as new corporate powers push the law further and further. We may not even realize how quickly the internet would change on us. | ||
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Myles
United States5162 Posts
On January 05 2012 08:55 Apom wrote: I did not adress SOPA specifically, as the poster I responded to did not either. Um... If it passes people will just start using other protocols and infrastructures that already exist adn arnt covered by the legislation. seems like he did. Either way, hopefully it made others aware since it's a common thing said in this thread. | ||
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RabidSeagull
United States220 Posts
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mgl0x9
United States256 Posts
or would twitch.tv///own3d.tv completely shut down? EDIT:: anyone have a date when they start discussing this again? | ||
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JOJOsc2news
3000 Posts
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Myles
United States5162 Posts
On January 05 2012 10:46 mgl0x9 wrote: If SOPA passes can people still stream games and get ad revenue? EXAMPLE: SC2 (destiny) WOW (Towelliee) EVEN IF they have consent from Blizzard to do so? or would twitch.tv///own3d.tv completely shut down? EDIT:: anyone have a date when they start discussing this again? Blizzard would have to enforce their copywrite, which seems unlikely. More possible imo is the chance that any music or other media shown on streams could result in action. | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On January 05 2012 09:00 Insomni7 wrote: The full effect of SOPA would probably not be felt immediately. Noone is gonna take down Youtube Google might! http://www.zdnet.com/blog/igeneration/google-amazon-twitter-and-facebook-consider-nuclear-blackout/14307 | ||
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