EPTInstead, we should be thinking of ways to soften the blow when this hits. Getting rid of things like the youtube thread, getting rid of copyrighted music in streams, and so on. It's not something we'd like to do, but I feel like it's going to be necessary.
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TedJustice
Canada1324 Posts
Instead, we should be thinking of ways to soften the blow when this hits. Getting rid of things like the youtube thread, getting rid of copyrighted music in streams, and so on. It's not something we'd like to do, but I feel like it's going to be necessary. | ||
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Headshot
United States1656 Posts
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GohgamX
Canada1096 Posts
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Arcanefrost
Belgium1257 Posts
This is really bad, everyone has to protest against this in some way or they will just continue. This law is contradictory with certain laws I'm sure, let's go to court if they try to implement it :p | ||
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acidfreak
Romania352 Posts
On November 15 2011 23:56 TheBomb wrote: This is part of a new world system where if you happen to post a what would otherwise be fair usage video or picture or whatever you will be shut down and what is scary is that most of these laws go all over the world. This is a new world system of corrupt ways and corporate domination. User was warned for this post Why was this man warned? For speaking the truth? Are the Illuminati so deep in they have control over TL? | ||
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Esper
United States87 Posts
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TedJustice
Canada1324 Posts
On December 21 2011 02:39 Arcanefrost wrote: Quite funny they try to stop pirates by blocking sites, they do realize finding away around blocks is what pirates do best ^^ Yeah it's super easy to get around if they're just using DNS filtering. It goes to show that they have no idea what they're doing. Just open cmd, ping the site you plan on visiting after this passes, and write down the IP. Google is http://74.125.226.16/ Teamliquid's is http://173.231.136.216 This is common sense to anybody who knows what a DNS is. | ||
Myles
United States5162 Posts
On December 21 2011 02:41 acidfreak wrote: Why was this man warned? For speaking the truth? Are the Illuminati so deep in they have control over TL? TL doesn't tolerate conspiracy theories. | ||
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JohnnyBanana
Canada493 Posts
On December 21 2011 02:32 TedJustice wrote: Honestly, we shouldn't be thinking about ways to avoid this, when it's practically inevitable that this (or something similar) will pass eventually. The internet is a fundamentally broken concept the way it is now. The idea of a completely safe haven where anything goes with practically no rules simply cannot last forever. Instead, we should be thinking of ways to soften the blow when this hits. Getting rid of things like the youtube thread, getting rid of copyrighted music in streams, and so on. It's not something we'd like to do, but I feel like it's going to be necessary. Sorry, I can't support bending over and just giving into pretty letting the entire internet be censored. Call your reps. It's clear most of congress doesn't even understand the implications of this law. To say that we should just accept what's about to come from people who don't even know what they're talking about... that's just absurd. Gotta make a stand at some point, and this bill (actually I'd say the NDAA) is a good place to start. | ||
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Kamate
Romania580 Posts
On December 21 2011 02:45 TedJustice wrote: Yeah it's super easy to get around if they're just using DNS filtering. It goes to show that they have no idea what they're doing. Just open cmd, ping the site you plan on visiting after this passes, and write down the IP. Google is http://74.125.226.16/ Teamliquid's is http://173.231.136.216 This is common sense to anybody who knows what a DNS is. Or you can use MAFIAA addon, for Mozilla and Chrome  | ||
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TedJustice
Canada1324 Posts
On December 21 2011 02:50 JohnnyBanana wrote: Sorry, I can't support bending over and just giving into pretty letting the entire internet be censored. Call your reps. It's clear most of congress doesn't even understand the implications of this law. To say that we should just accept what's about to come from people who don't even know what they're talking about... that's just absurd. Gotta make a stand at some point, and this bill (actually I'd say the NDAA) is a good place to start. I'm not saying we should accept it. I'm saying we should be ready for it. What happens if everyone calls their reps and they still don't change their minds? We just say "well fuck" and let the internet die? I don't think so. | ||
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fjjotizz
Sweden153 Posts
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Nizaris
Belgium2230 Posts
On December 21 2011 02:32 TedJustice wrote: Honestly, we shouldn't be thinking about ways to avoid this, when it's practically inevitable that this (or something similar) will pass eventually. The internet is a fundamentally broken concept the way it is now. The idea of a completely safe haven where anything goes with practically no rules simply cannot last forever. Instead, we should be thinking of ways to soften the blow when this hits. Getting rid of things like the youtube thread, getting rid of copyrighted music in streams, and so on. It's not something we'd like to do, but I feel like it's going to be necessary. We shouldn't need to remove all music from the internet. Honestly all you are doing when you stream music or post their music videos on a thread is FREE advertising. Look how ppl constantly ask what songs are being streamed. Honestly all that stuff should be protected under fair use. It's been proven that pirates buy more music then ppl that don't pirate. Not really a stretch, after being exposed to more music it only makes sense that you buy more. I wish i could find a link to the study, i'll keep looking. Pirating isn't nearly as bad as the MAFIAA would like you to believe. On December 21 2011 03:09 TedJustice wrote: What happens if everyone calls their reps and they still don't change their minds? We just say "well fuck" and let the internet die? I don't think so. no big deal, we'll use teamliquid.ch or something similar. Anything outside the US/E.Union really. | ||
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JohnnyBanana
Canada493 Posts
On December 21 2011 03:09 TedJustice wrote: I'm not saying we should accept it. On December 21 2011 02:32 TedJustice wrote: Honestly, we shouldn't be thinking about ways to avoid this, when it's practically inevitable that this (or something similar) will pass eventually. That sounds a lot like 'we should accept it'. It's already pretty clear what is going to happen when SOPA passes... if TL has even one copyright image/comment/video/music, anything at all, it's going to get shut down. No way to avoid that. | ||
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KeksX
Germany3634 Posts
On December 21 2011 03:09 TedJustice wrote: I'm not saying we should accept it. I'm saying we should be ready for it. What happens if everyone calls their reps and they still don't change their minds? We just say "well fuck" and let the internet die? I don't think so. How about we say "well fuck" and continue to fight back? Do you always say "Okay you're not going to change your mind so you're right" if someone is being a stubborn asshole? I hope not. | ||
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Ceril
Sweden1343 Posts
Ofc, with content providers of the free world gone from the land of the free. the corrupt us goverment system is free to erect the digital fortress to protect american minds from the harmfull influences of the world outside its borders. Next up is the day americans line up in the streets crying about their emperor and god Barrack Ombama diying at the age 67. "The internet is a fundamentally broken concept the way it is now. The idea of a completely safe haven where anything goes with practically no rules simply cannot last forever." -TedJustice And it came into being such a place existed and men in the future called it camelot, like the camelot before a shining becon of what should have been. | ||
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Apollo_Shards
1210 Posts
On December 21 2011 03:26 Ceril wrote: If Sopa/pipa comes to pass. opendns will be commonplace and a huge withdrawal of IP capital thats not hollywood will relocate their servers and services and jobs to other countries. It will be worth it, leaving the US in the backwater. Ofc, with content providers of the free world gone from the land of the free. the corrupt us goverment system is free to erect the digital fortress to protect american minds from the harmfull influences of the world outside its borders. Next up is the day americans line up in the streets crying about their emperor and god Barrack Ombama diying at the age 67. "The internet is a fundamentally broken concept the way it is now. The idea of a completely safe haven where anything goes with practically no rules simply cannot last forever." -TedJustice And it came into being such a place existed and men in the future called it camelot, like the camelot before a shining becon of what should have been. You shouldn't assume just because this bill is being considered that America resembles North Korea... | ||
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McNulty
Norway184 Posts
Team Liquid - one of the most heavily moderated and constricting discussion forums I've ever posted at (been using Internet since 1997-1998). Think I've recieved 3-4 warnings and 2 or so bans during the short time I've been sure. Sure, I'm probably a bigger asshole than 99% of the people here, but I've never before been warned or banned on any other forum. Proof: the SECOND post in the topic gets a warning. Why? Not because he wanted to offend anyone, not because he wanted to troll, not because he used profanity (there should be no problem with swearing in a "free Internet" either)... He was warned because he made a reply showing his alternative world views, which most consider to be a stupid conspiracy theory, while ALOT of other people see it as an undisputable fact. This would only be fair if everyone who mentioned anything about religion recieved a warning... However, maybe this is the way it has to be, in order to maintain some level of intellectual discussion. =) The point still stands in my opinion, how ironic it is to post "omg they are stealing our free speech and sensoring us" etc, when posting in a forum where you can get banned for saying something that could influence a discussion in a certain direction. | ||
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JohnnyBanana
Canada493 Posts
On December 21 2011 04:21 McNulty wrote: As long as i can play D3 in the future I don't really care much about this, but wanted to reply in this thread because of the INSANE irony of its location... Team Liquid - one of the most heavily moderated and constricting discussion forums I've ever posted at (been using Internet since 1997-1998). Think I've recieved 3-4 warnings and 2 or so bans during the short time I've been sure. Sure, I'm probably a bigger asshole than 99% of the people here, but I've never before been warned or banned on any other forum. Proof: the SECOND post in the topic gets a warning. Why? Not because he wanted to offend anyone, not because he wanted to troll, not because he used profanity (there should be no problem with swearing in a "free Internet" either)... He was warned because he made a reply showing his alternative world views, which most consider to be a stupid conspiracy theory, while ALOT of other people see it as an undisputable fact. This would only be fair if everyone who mentioned anything about religion recieved a warning... However, maybe this is the way it has to be, in order to maintain some level of intellectual discussion. =) The point still stands in my opinion, how ironic it is to post "omg they are stealing our free speech and sensoring us" etc, when posting in a forum where you can get banned for saying something that could influence a discussion in a certain direction. You're comparing 1 forum to the entire internet? | ||
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Ceril
Sweden1343 Posts
What the internet is now and the potential for good and the bringing of all earths people closer that it can have in the future; as long as its core of freedom is left to fly in the wind, without it we get region codes and the nation state can continue to flourish rather then slowly getting closed as the chapter in our history before we grew up and became one people of earth. | ||
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