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On February 10 2015 23:19 Djzapz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2015 13:49 IgnE wrote:On January 29 2015 17:24 zatic wrote:
You can easily keep a bottle open for a year without anyone being able to tell the difference to an unopened bottle.
Even after oxidation sets in, it doesn't mean at all that the whiskey will go bad. It will gradually, very slowly change. And again this will hardly be noticeable to most people. Even if it is noticeable it's simply a change first, not necessarily for the worse. The bottle might even taste better.
If you are super concerned get a $5 nitrogen can and spray that into your most expensive bottles. I disagree. Are you the kind of person who will leave a bottle of wine open over night and drink it the next day though? You are outright wrong  . If you want to drink the whisky in its "original" form you have to do it quickly, but you can leave it for months and it'll change gradually, without going bad necessarily. If your bottle is almost empty, then it'll oxidize quickly and you keep it for too long, but if you still have say 375ml in a 750ml bottle, it'll stay "good" for a few months. Whisky doesn't break down quite as fast as wine does.
What am I outright wrong about? I disagreed that no one would be able to tell the difference between a new bottle and an unopened bottle and you say, "it'll change gradually." I know it doesn't break down as fast as wine does. I never said it did.
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On February 12 2015 16:49 IgnE wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2015 23:19 Djzapz wrote:On February 10 2015 13:49 IgnE wrote:On January 29 2015 17:24 zatic wrote:
You can easily keep a bottle open for a year without anyone being able to tell the difference to an unopened bottle.
Even after oxidation sets in, it doesn't mean at all that the whiskey will go bad. It will gradually, very slowly change. And again this will hardly be noticeable to most people. Even if it is noticeable it's simply a change first, not necessarily for the worse. The bottle might even taste better.
If you are super concerned get a $5 nitrogen can and spray that into your most expensive bottles. I disagree. Are you the kind of person who will leave a bottle of wine open over night and drink it the next day though? You are outright wrong . If you want to drink the whisky in its "original" form you have to do it quickly, but you can leave it for months and it'll change gradually, without going bad necessarily. If your bottle is almost empty, then it'll oxidize quickly and you keep it for too long, but if you still have say 375ml in a 750ml bottle, it'll stay "good" for a few months. Whisky doesn't break down quite as fast as wine does. What am I outright wrong about? I disagreed that no one would be able to tell the difference between a new bottle and an unopened bottle and you say, "it'll change gradually." I know it doesn't break down as fast as wine does. I never said it did.
Ah yes - my bad.
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On February 11 2015 01:34 Ulumulu wrote:
Talisker Destillers Edition is my favorite followed by Ardbeg 10.
Delicious stuff!
Protip:
If u want to party without headache the next day, try german beer (Reinheitsgebot), preferably a bavarian one and quality single malt. Don't combine it in a drink, lol :D one after another.
I have the 10yo and storm on my shelf, both good stuff! Still I think my favourite islay is the caol ila 12, a real heartwarmer 
can you give a comparison between the distillers edition and maybe the 10?
Better pro tip: have a water now and then, only WeizenBier en masse will give you headaches 
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The comments on open bottles, oxidization and how long a bottle takes to flatten out here are greatly appreciated! I'd say outside of 6 months, there is no way you are not headed on a steady decline in original character into a more benign whisky.
Just as a negative review, I polished off a bottle of Single Barrel Evan Williams, while it was good I found it sappy and what I can only guess is over matured. Great cinnamon and brown sugar as you would expect, but a ton of time opening up and water only dented the sappiness slightly.
I probably wont be buying another one, though it was decent - it didn't quite live up to the reviews I had read. Other bourbons at this price point are much better. Though, given the variance in single barrel bottlings, this could have been on the rich end of the spectrum.
Currently working on the same bottle of Ardbeg Corryvreckan that will probably take me another month to finish. So strong - so good
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I love bumping this thread. Especially since i can actually go back and find myself from 2-3 years ago asking where to start in the world of whisky. And now I'm practically a connaisseur (nope, no not really), been attending loads of tastings and have quite the collection. Well. I try..
Current favorites from my own collection are:
- Aberlour A'bunadh (batch #42)
- Longrow Rundlets & Kilderkins 11yo
- Tormore 7yo (from Duncan Taylor "The Octave" series - yeah only 7yo)
- Nikka 10yo "Yoichi" (this one really amazed me)
In May a friend and I are going to an Adelphi tasting who acts as an independent distiller besides making their own stuff. Pretty stoked about the programme:
Glenrothers 2007, Oloroso Cask 63%
Port Charlotte 2005, Cask 60%
Fascadale 12 år,46%, batch 6, from Clynelish
Fascadale 14 år, 46%, batch 7, from Highland Park
Liddesdale 21 år, 46%, batch 7, from Bunnahabhain
Glen Moray 1991, 56.6%, Cask 9346
Glen Garioch 1993, 59,6% 1. fill sherry cask no.776
Mortlach 1987, 56.8%, Cask 3104, 27yo refill Sherry
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Tomorrow I'm picking up a bottle of Aberlour A'bunadh, hopefully it'll be from a good batch!
Edit: It's batch 49, should be pretty nice
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What a weird thing... I hadn't had an Irish whiskey for a few years (and it was Jameson when I couldn't stand whisky back in the day), so I decided to pick up a bottle of Powers Gold Label. I cracked it open a few days ago and enjoyed it, it wasn't bad, and it certainly wasn't boring because it brings something entirely new to the table for me. I had never come across anything like this from canadian whisky, scotch or bourbons or anywhere. Yet I couldn't describe the taste. Perhaps a salty nose and palate, but there was definitely something else on the palate. Some lime perhaps, but there was something else too.
Fast forward to today, I try it again and it hits me like a truck - this reminds me of fish. Perhaps it's the combination of citrus-ey/lime notes with the sodium that's present both in the nose and in the palate. I have no idea if anyone else would get that "fishy" note that I picked up, but now that I've got it defined in my head, I'm no longer able to appreciate it very much. Even though it was not unpleasant, now that I've got myself convinced that it's the taste of fish (or rather, a part of the taste or smell of fish), I just can't.
I'm still a bit new to this, I don't really try whisky outside of the bottles that I buy, and this was very surprising to me.
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Macallan 12 year just got me into whisky. It was actually a bottle that I won in a disc golf competition haha. I've of course done tons of shots of Jameson and Jack Daniels over the years, but this is the first one I can sip on and enjoy.
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Please post a review of the Abundah if you get a chance ... I've been pretty shy about the Sherry casks because I love bourbon matured so much. I have been considering diving into a good sherry one, and I'm debating between this and Glendronich 15. Can't decide if I'd get Abundah or regular Aberlour 12. All seem like they would be good choices.
I recently picked up this. It's a Clynelish Signatory Bottling. 15yo, 43% ... no coloring but probably chill filtered. It's the most gorgeous light light gold color ... looking forward to trying it.
![[image loading]](https://www.weinquelle.com/fotos/Clynelish_Signatory_15_Years_1998_2014_14494.jpg)
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Anyone here a tequila fan? I have a couple of favorite brands, Herencia Mexicana and Cazadores. Usually the Blanco, but the repasado are ok. Not a fan of dark colored liquors so much anymore, as they contain more impurities and hangovers.
I ususally drink it on the rocks with a lime or something. People think I'm crazy. It tastes like water imo, and somehow I can drink a shitload without getting hammered.
PS- Fuck the new cazadores bottles, so lame.
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On March 26 2015 13:39 MarlieChurphy wrote:
Anyone here a tequila fan?
I've never been much of a fan of Tequila because the one time I tried it neat it was horrible, but it was the cheap stuff made for mixing so I guess it kind of makes sense. Never tried anything decent, I wouldn't know where to start, I have no idea what the good stuff is. And if you say it tastes like water, well that's not my thing x_x. I don't drink to get drunk anymore
Not a fan of dark colored liquors so much anymore, as they contain more impurities and hangovers.
What? Is that a thing? I think dark colored liquors are just darker because they're influenced by the wood and sometimes colorants, but I don't think color is in any way indicative of impurity.
Also someone asked that I do a review of the A'bunadh when I get around to it, and I will, but that's not for anytime soon .
+ Show Spoiler +Most are unopened ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/PT8eXeb.jpg)
That said speaking of different spirits, can anyone suggest a reasonably priced Brandy for sipping? I'm thinking of getting into that type of stuff a little bit.
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Just got into Whisky at the start of the year. Watched some vids of Richard Paterson and i had to taste some single malt whisky. Started out with a bowmore 12 and Auchentoshan 12. First i liked Auchentoshan more but that has changed quickly .
Luckily a local supermarket around the corner had a free whisky tasting on a weekend, so i went there friday and saturday to taste as much as i could. started out with highland park 12, connemara 6 & 12 + laphroig 10 & quarter cast on the first day. I was pretty amazed to see how different whiskys can be if u compare my auchentoshan to the smokey irish and the islay whiskys. Had the chance to taste a 18 year old Glenlivet, Dalmore 12, Bushmills 16 and Talisker 10 and the Talisker is the freaking bomb. Actually i liked almost all of those whiskys even though i cant seperate and taste all the flavours yet but it is getting better slowly but surely. I dont know why but i disliked the Bushmills 16, at first it was amazing but then there is a very strong flavour of idk berrys? it was very overwhelming to me and kinda ruined my bushmills 16 experience.
Anyway i ordered a Bottle of Highland Park 12, Talisker 10 and Laphroig 10 coz that one was really interesting. Additionaly a Woodford reserve Bourbon coz i wanted to try that stuff.
Also after using Tumblers (coz i had no other glasses) i was amazed how different of an experience it was using glencairn glasses. I immediately got some on a local whisky fair in Nuremberg (The village).
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On March 27 2015 10:33 Djzapz wrote:I've never been much of a fan of Tequila because the one time I tried it neat it was horrible, but it was the cheap stuff made for mixing so I guess it kind of makes sense. Never tried anything decent, I wouldn't know where to start, I have no idea what the good stuff is. And if you say it tastes like water, well that's not my thing x_x. I don't drink to get drunk anymore Show nested quote +Not a fan of dark colored liquors so much anymore, as they contain more impurities and hangovers. What? Is that a thing? I think dark colored liquors are just darker because they're influenced by the wood and sometimes colorants, but I don't think color is in any way indicative of impurity. Also someone asked that I do a review of the A'bunadh when I get around to it, and I will, but that's not for anytime soon . + Show Spoiler +Most are unopened That said speaking of different spirits, can anyone suggest a reasonably priced Brandy for sipping? I'm thinking of getting into that type of stuff a little bit.
TYL: All liquor are spirits, all spirits are clear until things are added. Anything that colors it is an impurity.
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On March 31 2015 19:37 MarlieChurphy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2015 10:33 Djzapz wrote:On March 26 2015 13:39 MarlieChurphy wrote:
Anyone here a tequila fan? I've never been much of a fan of Tequila because the one time I tried it neat it was horrible, but it was the cheap stuff made for mixing so I guess it kind of makes sense. Never tried anything decent, I wouldn't know where to start, I have no idea what the good stuff is. And if you say it tastes like water, well that's not my thing x_x. I don't drink to get drunk anymore Not a fan of dark colored liquors so much anymore, as they contain more impurities and hangovers. What? Is that a thing? I think dark colored liquors are just darker because they're influenced by the wood and sometimes colorants, but I don't think color is in any way indicative of impurity. Also someone asked that I do a review of the A'bunadh when I get around to it, and I will, but that's not for anytime soon . + Show Spoiler +Most are unopened That said speaking of different spirits, can anyone suggest a reasonably priced Brandy for sipping? I'm thinking of getting into that type of stuff a little bit. TYL: All liquor are spirits, all spirits are clear until things are added. Anything that colors it is an impurity.
I don't know that that's true. But if it is I don't know why there wouldn't be colorless impurities much worse by whatever pointless standards we might set for what purity means :p. You can have clear spirits with impurities that kill you or make you blind.
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On April 01 2015 06:10 Djzapz wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2015 19:37 MarlieChurphy wrote:On March 27 2015 10:33 Djzapz wrote:On March 26 2015 13:39 MarlieChurphy wrote:
Anyone here a tequila fan? I've never been much of a fan of Tequila because the one time I tried it neat it was horrible, but it was the cheap stuff made for mixing so I guess it kind of makes sense. Never tried anything decent, I wouldn't know where to start, I have no idea what the good stuff is. And if you say it tastes like water, well that's not my thing x_x. I don't drink to get drunk anymore Not a fan of dark colored liquors so much anymore, as they contain more impurities and hangovers. What? Is that a thing? I think dark colored liquors are just darker because they're influenced by the wood and sometimes colorants, but I don't think color is in any way indicative of impurity. Also someone asked that I do a review of the A'bunadh when I get around to it, and I will, but that's not for anytime soon . + Show Spoiler +Most are unopened That said speaking of different spirits, can anyone suggest a reasonably priced Brandy for sipping? I'm thinking of getting into that type of stuff a little bit. TYL: All liquor are spirits, all spirits are clear until things are added. Anything that colors it is an impurity. I don't know that that's true. But if it is I don't know why there wouldn't be colorless impurities much worse by whatever pointless standards we might set for what purity means :p. You can have clear spirits with impurities that kill you or make you blind.
IIRC as far as the distilling process goes, if done properly, it removes all extra shit and leaves just the spirit in the pure form.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethanol (there are a couple of good docus and hour presentations on making different kinds of booze and the industry. I recall one on Scotch, Beer, Tequila, and Wine.)
That's part of the reason why I've evolved to liking 100% puro azul agauve tequila. It's super high quality and clean and crisp. Can drink it straight, on the rocks, or with a splash of lime just fine. And because the taste is so mild (with a little spicy/bite), you can mix it with practically anything, while not being as chemical as say vodka or gin.
As far as the going blind thing, that has to do with backwoods moonshiners who weren't clean or professional. Kinda like how meth cookers who don't know what they are doing blow up their hood.
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On April 01 2015 09:50 MarlieChurphy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2015 06:10 Djzapz wrote:On March 31 2015 19:37 MarlieChurphy wrote:On March 27 2015 10:33 Djzapz wrote:On March 26 2015 13:39 MarlieChurphy wrote:
Anyone here a tequila fan? I've never been much of a fan of Tequila because the one time I tried it neat it was horrible, but it was the cheap stuff made for mixing so I guess it kind of makes sense. Never tried anything decent, I wouldn't know where to start, I have no idea what the good stuff is. And if you say it tastes like water, well that's not my thing x_x. I don't drink to get drunk anymore Not a fan of dark colored liquors so much anymore, as they contain more impurities and hangovers. What? Is that a thing? I think dark colored liquors are just darker because they're influenced by the wood and sometimes colorants, but I don't think color is in any way indicative of impurity. Also someone asked that I do a review of the A'bunadh when I get around to it, and I will, but that's not for anytime soon . + Show Spoiler +Most are unopened That said speaking of different spirits, can anyone suggest a reasonably priced Brandy for sipping? I'm thinking of getting into that type of stuff a little bit. TYL: All liquor are spirits, all spirits are clear until things are added. Anything that colors it is an impurity. I don't know that that's true. But if it is I don't know why there wouldn't be colorless impurities much worse by whatever pointless standards we might set for what purity means :p. You can have clear spirits with impurities that kill you or make you blind. IIRC as far as the distilling process goes, if done properly, it removes all extra shit and leaves just the spirit in the pure form. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EthanolAs far as the going blind thing, that has to do with backwoods moonshiners who weren't clean or professional. Kinda like how meth cookers who don't know what they are doing blow up their hood.
Well fine, I frankly don't know what I'm talking about but I don't understand what the criterion for purity are. If it was just the molecular structure of alcohol then it still wouldn't have anything to do with color, and all spirits are different so why is color the basis for determining purity? It seems to me like it's an arbitrary way to decide.
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On April 01 2015 09:57 Djzapz wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2015 09:50 MarlieChurphy wrote:On April 01 2015 06:10 Djzapz wrote:On March 31 2015 19:37 MarlieChurphy wrote:On March 27 2015 10:33 Djzapz wrote:On March 26 2015 13:39 MarlieChurphy wrote:
Anyone here a tequila fan? I've never been much of a fan of Tequila because the one time I tried it neat it was horrible, but it was the cheap stuff made for mixing so I guess it kind of makes sense. Never tried anything decent, I wouldn't know where to start, I have no idea what the good stuff is. And if you say it tastes like water, well that's not my thing x_x. I don't drink to get drunk anymore Not a fan of dark colored liquors so much anymore, as they contain more impurities and hangovers. What? Is that a thing? I think dark colored liquors are just darker because they're influenced by the wood and sometimes colorants, but I don't think color is in any way indicative of impurity. Also someone asked that I do a review of the A'bunadh when I get around to it, and I will, but that's not for anytime soon . + Show Spoiler +Most are unopened That said speaking of different spirits, can anyone suggest a reasonably priced Brandy for sipping? I'm thinking of getting into that type of stuff a little bit. TYL: All liquor are spirits, all spirits are clear until things are added. Anything that colors it is an impurity. I don't know that that's true. But if it is I don't know why there wouldn't be colorless impurities much worse by whatever pointless standards we might set for what purity means :p. You can have clear spirits with impurities that kill you or make you blind. IIRC as far as the distilling process goes, if done properly, it removes all extra shit and leaves just the spirit in the pure form. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EthanolAs far as the going blind thing, that has to do with backwoods moonshiners who weren't clean or professional. Kinda like how meth cookers who don't know what they are doing blow up their hood. Well fine, I frankly don't know what I'm talking about but I don't understand what the criterion for purity are. If it was just the molecular structure of alcohol then it still wouldn't have anything to do with color, and all spirits are different so why is color the basis for determining purity? It seems to me like it's an arbitrary way to decide.
Well one of the first things you learn about chemistry is to look for color changes. Wwhat color you see, what color it changes when mixed with something, what color it burns, etc.
So it's a relatively easy way to gauge if something is pure or closer to pure. Sure it's not 100% perfect, but if we had some science machines I'm sure we could double check. And I'm sure some of these large corporations actually use spectrometers or something to test their product every hour, or day, or whatever, for consistency of quality.
Generally things like vodka are 'triple distilled' or something to that affect. Which removes more and more impurities. And then little or nothing is added for flavor at the end of the process.
With whiskeys, they are distilled then aged, or added to mashes, or half distilled kind of thing. Which obviously adds the color. (technically speaking, is an impurity)
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Alright! Well I seem to prefer spirits with impurities
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On April 01 2015 10:17 Djzapz wrote:Alright! Well I seem to prefer spirits with impurities
It's all good. I used to mainly drink sailor jerry whiskey. Which is lots of sugar and impurities.
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Most spirits are clear when distilled, but it's certainly not pure ethanol that comes out. There's this thing called an azeotrope that limits purity.
Barrel aging adds color because the insides of barrels are charred to add flavor. Most of the cheaper (i.e. sub $50 per 750ml) liquors have color added for aesthetic reasons. There is no proof as far as I know that vodka or tequila have fewer "impurities" that result in hangovers. In fact barrel aging can remove some impurities (sulphur compounds, etc.) and can shape how residual compounds or post-distillation additives impact the final product. Sugar content is usually the number one determinant of hangovers in my experience.
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