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HULKAMANIA
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States1219 Posts
October 08 2012 06:29 GMT
#661
On October 08 2012 07:27 phyre112 wrote:
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On October 08 2012 07:17 Cereb wrote:
What a glorious thread! I recently started absolutely loving whiskey! I have basically been drinking Jameson straight from the bottle every weekend for the last few months! Personally I think it's quite a shame adding anything to it. You just have to get used to it and then there is no turning back


Generally I slightly prefer the Irish whiskey over Scotch but only slightly! Both kinds are really delicious in their own way!

Haven't tried any Bourbon. The only American one I have tried is Jack D which I really didn't like as much as my Irish one love, but it did taste like it would be pretty good to mix with for some reason.

To be fair I was living in Ireland for a few months so I'm biased as hell


Cheers!


Jack Daniels isn't a bourbon, and I feel the same way about it - it's a little too "watery" to stand on it's own, especially if you're used to drinking bourbon. Goes well in a mixed drink though, which is certainly a formula for business success.

On that note, I'm looking to add to my bourbon collection. Anyone have any suggestions or personal favorites?

I think it's been mentioned a couple of times in this thread, but a truly first class bourbon is Van Winkle. Now personally I've never had the scratch for the Pappy Van Winkle Family Reserve, but occasionally I get a hold of the Van Winkle Special Reserve, which is a delicious, 90 proof, 12-year-old ticket to bliss and contentment if you're asking me.

I also think that a very affordable and surprisingly formidable bourbon is Buffalo Trace. (You're going to be paying about $34 for a handle.) I try to keep a quantity of that on hand. In leaner times, it's Old Charter. But you got to take everything I'm saying with a grain of salt. I've dipped into some H.L. Weller 107 tonight. (Except for the Van Winkle comments. I would stand by the bourbon in court, under oath.)

(I also think this thread would benefit from Walker Percy's essay Bourbon. Tell me this shit doesn't get you hype
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This is not written by a connoisseur of Bourbon. Nintey-nine percent of Bourbon drinkers know more about Bourbon than I do. It is about the aesthetic of Bourbon drinking in general and in particular of knocking it back neat.

I can hardly tell one Bourbon from another, unless the other is very bad. Some bad Bourbons are even more memorable than good ones. For example, I can recall being broke with some friends in Tennessee and deciding to have a party and being able to afford only two-fifths of a $1.75 Bourbon called Two Natural, whose label showed dice coming up 5 and 2. Its taste was memorable. The psychological effect was also notable. After knocking back two or three shots over a period of half an hour, the three male drinkers looked at each other and said in a single voice: 'Where are the women?' I have not been able to locate this remarkable Bourbon since.

Not only should connoisseurs of Bourbon not read this article, neither should persons preoccupied with the perils of alcoholism, cirrhosis, esophageal hemorrhage, cancer of the palate, and so forth--all real dangers. I, too, deplore these afflications. But, as between these evils and the aesthetic of Bourbon drinking, that is, the use of Bourbon to warm the heart, to reduce the anomie of the late twentieth century, to cut the cold phlegm of Wednesday afternoons, I choose the aesthetic. What, after all, is the use of not having cancer, cirrhosis, and such, if a man comes home from work every day at five-thirty to the exurbs of Montclair or Memphis and there is the grass growing and the little family looking not quite at him but just past the side of his head, and there's Cronkite on the tube and the smell of pot roast in the living room, and inside the house and outside in the pretty exurb has settled the noxious particles and the sadness of the old dying Western world, and him thinking: 'Jesus, is this it? Listening to Cronkite and the grass growing?'

If I should appear to be suggesting that such a man proceed as quickly as possible to anesthetize his cerebral cortex by ingesting ethyl alcohol, the point is being missed. Or part of the point. The joy of Bourbon drinking is not the pharmacological effect of C(2)H(5)OH on the cortex but rather the instant of the whiskey being knocked back and the little explosion of Kentucky U.S.A. sunshine in the cavity of the nasopharynx and the hot bosky bite of Tennessee summertime--aesthetic considerations to which the effect of the alcohol is, if not dispensable, at least secondary.

By contrast, Scotch: for me (not, I presume, for a Scot), drinking Scotch is like looking at a picture of Noel Coward. The whiskey assaults the nasopharynx with all the excitement of paregoric. Scotch drinkers (not all, of course) I think of as upward-mobile Americans, Houston and New Orleans businessmen who graduate from Bourbon about the same time they shed seersuckers for Lilly slacks. Of course, by now these same folk may have gone back to Bourbon and seersucker for the same reason, because too many Houston oilmen drink Scotch.

Nothing, therefore, will be said about the fine points of sour mash, straights, blends, bonded, except a general preference for the lower proofs. It is a matter of the arithmetic of aesthetics. If one derives the same pleasure from knocking back 80-proof Bourbon as 100-proof, the formula is both as simple as 2 + 2 = 4 and as incredible as non-Euclidean geometry. Consider. One knocks back five one-ounce shots of 80-proof Early Times or four shots of 100-proof Old Fitzgerald. The alcohol ingestion is the same:

5 X 40% = 2
4 X 50% = 2

Yet, in the case of the Early Times, one has obtained an extra quantum of joy without cost to liver, brain, or gastric mucosa. A bonus, pure and simple, an aesthetic gain as incredible as two parallel lines meeting at
infinity.

An apology to the reader is in order, nevertheless, for it has just occurred to me that this is the most unedifying and even maleficent piece I ever wrote--if it should encourage potential alcoholics to start knocking back Bourbon neat. It is also the unfairest. Because I am, happily and unhappily, endowed with a bad GI tract, diverticulosis, neurotic colon, and a mild recurring nausea, which make it less likely for me to become an alcoholic than my healthier fellow Americans. I can hear the reader now: Who is he kidding? If this joker has to knock back five shots of Bourbon every afternoon just to stand the twentieth century, he's already an alcoholic. Very well. I submit to this or any semantic. All I am saying is that if I drink much more than this I will get sick as a dog for two days and the very sight and smell of whiskey will bring on the heaves. Readers beware, therefore, save only those who have stronger wills or as bad a gut as I.

The pleasure of knocking back Bourbon lies in the plane of the aesthetic but at an opposite pole from connoisseurship. My
preference for the former is or is not deplorable depending on one's value system--that is to say, how one balances out the Epicurean virtues of cultivating one's sensory end organs with the greatest discrimination and at least cost to one's health, against the virtue of evocation of time and memory and of the recovery of self and the past from the fogged-in disoriented Western world. In Kierkegaardian terms, the use of Bourbon to such an end is a kind of aestheticized religious mode of existence, whereas connoisseurship, the discriminating but single-minded stimulation of sensory end organs, is the aesthetic of damnation.

Two exemplars of the two aesthetics come to mind.

Imagine Clifton Webb, scarf at throat, sitting at Cap d'Antibes on a perfect day, the little wavelets of the Mediterranean sparkling in the sunlight, and he is savoring a 1959 Mouton Rothschild.

Then imagine William Faulkner, having finished 'Absalom, Absalom!', drained, written out, pissed-off, feeling himself over the edge and out of it, nowhere, but he goes somewhere, his favorite hunting place in the Delta wilderness of the Big Sunflower River and, still feeling bad with his hunting cronies and maybe even a little phony, which he was, what with him trying to pretend he was one of them, a farmer, hunkered down in the cold and rain after the hunt, after honorably passing up the does and seeing no bucks, shivering and snot-nosed, takes out a flat pint of any Bourbon at all and flatfoots about a third of it. He shivers again but not from the cold.

Bourbon does for me what the piece of cake did for Proust.

1926: As a child watching my father in Birmingham, in the exurbs, living next to a number-6 fairway of the New Country Club, him disdaining both the bathtub gin and white lightening of the time, aging his own Bourbon in a charcoal keg, on his hands and knees in the basement sucking on the siphon, a matter of gravity requiring cheek pressed against the concrete floor, the siphon getting going, the decanter ready, the first hot spurt into his mouth not spat out.

1933: My uncle's sun parlour in the Mississippi Delta and toddies on a Sunday afternoon, the prolonged and meditative tinkle of silver spoon against crystal to dissolve the sugar; talk, tinkle, talk; the talk mostly political: "Roosevelt is doing a good job; no, the son of a bitch is betraying his class."

1934: Drinking at a Delta dance, the boys in bi-swing jackets and tab collars, tough-talking and profane and also scared of the girls and therefore safe in the men's room. Somebody passes around bootleg Bourbon in a Coke bottle. It's awful. Tears start from eyes, faces turn red. 'Hot damn, that's good!'

1935: Drinking at a football game in college. UNC versus Duke. One has a blind date. One is lucky. She is beautiful. Her clothes are the color of the fall leaves and her face turns up like a flower. But what to SAY to her, let alone what to do, and whether she is 'nice' or 'hot' -- a distinction made in those days. But what to SAY? Take a drink, by now from a proper concave hip flask (a long way from the Delta Coke bottle) with a hinged top. Will she have a drink? No. But that's all right. The taste of the Bourbon (Cream of Kentucky) and the smell of her fuse with the brilliant Carolina fall and the sounds of the crowd and the hit of the linesmen in a single synesthesia.

1941: Drinking mint juleps, famed Southern Bourbon drink, though in the Deep South not really drunk much. In fact, they are drunk so seldom that when, say, on Derby Day somebody gives a julep party, people drink them like cocktails, forgetting that a good julep holds at least five ounces of Bourbon. Men fall face-down unconscious, women wander in the woods disconsolate and amnesiac, full of thoughts of Kahil Gibran and the limberlost.

Would you believe the first mind julep I had I was sitting not on a columned porch but in the Boo Snooker bar of the New Yorker Hotel with a Bellevue nurse in 1941? The nurse, a nice upstate girl, head floor nurse, brisk, swift, good-looking; Bellevue nurses, the best in the world and this one the best of Bellevue, at least the best-looking. The julep, an atrocity, a heavy syrupy Bourbon and water in a small glass clotted with ice. But good!

How could two women be more different than the beautiful languid Carolina girl and this swift handsome girl from Utica, best Dutch stock? One thing was sure. Each has to be courted, loved, drunk with, with Bourbon. I should have stuck with the Bourbon. We changed to gin fizzes because the bartender said he came from New Orleans and could make good ones. He could and did.

They were delicious. What I didn't know was that they were made with raw egg albumen and I was allergic to it. What a lovely fine strapping smart girl!

And thinking of being invited into her apartment where she lived alone and of her offering to cook a little supper and of the many kisses and the sweet love that already existed between us and was bound to grow apace, when on the Brooklyn Bridge itself my upper lip began to swell and little sparks of light flew past the corner of my eye like St. Elmo's fire. In the space of thirty seconds my lip stuck out a full three-quarter inch, like a shelf, like Mortimer Snerd. Not only was kissing out of the question but my eyes swelled shut. I made it across the bridge, pulled over to the curb, and fainted. Whereupon this noble nurse drove me back to Bellevue, game me a shot, and put me to bed.

Anybody who monkeys around with gin and egg white deserves what he gets. I should have stuck with Bourbon and have from that day to this.

POSTSCRIPT: Reader, just in case you don't want to knock it back straight and would rather monkey around with perfectly good Bourbon, here's my favorite recipe, "Cud'n Walker's Uncle Will's Favorite Mint Julep Receipt."

You need excellent Bourbon whiskey; rye or Scotch will not do. Put half an inch of sugar in the bottom of the glass and merely dampen it with water. Next, very quickly--and here is the trick in the procedure--cruch your ice, actually powder it, preferably with a wooden mallet, so quickly that it remains dry, and, slipping two sprigs of fresh mint against the inside of the glass, cram the ice in right to the brim, packing it with your hand. Finally, fill the glass, which apparently has no room left for anything else, with Bourbon, the older the better, and grate a bit of nutmeg on the top. The glass will frost immediately. Then settle back in your chair for half an hour of cumulative bliss.
If it were not so, I would have told you.
icemanzdoinwork
Profile Joined August 2010
447 Posts
October 08 2012 09:04 GMT
#662
I live around the bourbon trail, but haven't went. Here is what I enjoy for bourbon, which is really the only thing I drink anymore outside expensive beer.

- Rock Hill Farms, best bourbon I've had. $50 for a bottle, but it's delicious.
- Hancock's President's Reserve, Currently my favorite bourbon, because of price. It's so cheap and I love it. Around the same price of Maker's, but I enjoy it more.
- Makers Mark

I'm sure most have tried Makers, but try the other 2 if you are looking for some new bourbon. RHF and Hancock's are great. I'm not sure if Hancock's makes it far from Kentucky. It's usually around $26-$30 a bottle and it's unbeatable at that price.
Rubyfire
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany186 Posts
October 08 2012 10:17 GMT
#663
On October 08 2012 18:04 icemanzdoinwork wrote:
I live around the bourbon trail, but haven't went. Here is what I enjoy for bourbon, which is really the only thing I drink anymore outside expensive beer.

- Rock Hill Farms, best bourbon I've had. $50 for a bottle, but it's delicious.
- Hancock's President's Reserve, Currently my favorite bourbon, because of price. It's so cheap and I love it. Around the same price of Maker's, but I enjoy it more.
- Makers Mark

I'm sure most have tried Makers, but try the other 2 if you are looking for some new bourbon. RHF and Hancock's are great. I'm not sure if Hancock's makes it far from Kentucky. It's usually around $26-$30 a bottle and it's unbeatable at that price.


This is so unbelievable.
Hancock's President's Reserve costs 70€ over here.
Nothing suits me like a suit.
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
October 08 2012 11:40 GMT
#664
On October 08 2012 18:04 icemanzdoinwork wrote:
I live around the bourbon trail, but haven't went. Here is what I enjoy for bourbon, which is really the only thing I drink anymore outside expensive beer.

- Rock Hill Farms, best bourbon I've had. $50 for a bottle, but it's delicious.
- Hancock's President's Reserve, Currently my favorite bourbon, because of price. It's so cheap and I love it. Around the same price of Maker's, but I enjoy it more.
- Makers Mark

I'm sure most have tried Makers, but try the other 2 if you are looking for some new bourbon. RHF and Hancock's are great. I'm not sure if Hancock's makes it far from Kentucky. It's usually around $26-$30 a bottle and it's unbeatable at that price.


Makers is #35 for a fifth around here (New York), and I've never seen hancock's. I'll keep an eye out for it though. Buffalo Trace is a pretty solid bourbon, I'll have to try some of the Van Winkle as well, because I know that's at my local store.
OminouS
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1343 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-19 17:06:29
October 19 2012 02:47 GMT
#665
On August 13 2012 15:11 OminouS wrote:
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On May 05 2012 08:38 OminouS wrote:
On March 31 2012 22:19 OminouS wrote:
So I bougth two whiskies last month.

Ardbeg Uigeadail. Whisky of the year 2009 according to Jim Murray. Although I'm a sucker for all things Ardbeg, and I really enjoyed the whisky, I feel that the Alligator was more impressive and somewhat ruined the experience of Uigeadail for me, since I had tried it just last month. I would still recommend it to anyone.
Port Charlotte 8. I wanted to jump onboard and try this newly started 2nd distillery from Bruichladdich before the standard 10 year old version will be released, since it will most likely be watered down to 46%. This bad boy had a cask strength of 60,5%, and was the first time around a bit disappointing, but this turned out to be a product of the fact that my brother doesn't have proper whisky glasses, so the smell was very hard to catch. When I tried them in my Glencairn glassess (http://www.whiskyglass.com/), the smell was present and all was good with the world. It did remind me of a younger Lagavulin with the same strenght, not unlike Lagavulin 12 years original cask strength which was one of the whiskies I tried right before this one. The future does indeed look bright for Bruichladdich and their projects such as Octomore and Port Charlotte.

My latest purchases, haven't tried any of them yet though since I usually wait until my brother can try them with me:

Smokehead Extra Black. I'm pretty sure it's just smartly marketed and probably overpriced, but I wanted to try it anyway.
Bowmore Laimrig. I check this blog written by two fellow Swedes (http://peat.se/), and they usually have the same taste as I do. They highly recomended this one and I'm looking forward to trying it.
Caol Ila Unpeated. Probably a fresh change of pace from the usually heavily peated whiskes from Islay. (As you've probably noticed, almost all my latest purchases has been Islay. Guess I have to branch out a bit more.)
Bunnahabhain Peated Sherry Butt. Been looking forward to try something from this distillery for a long time, unless you count the closed Port Ellen and the newley opened Kilchoman, I tried something from all the other Islay destilleries that is available on the market right now (at least for a person in my situation). I will, however, get around to Kilchoman when it gets a bit older, and also Port Ellen, I will try that one in May when I get some more money to spend

As you've seen, I haven't really expressed the taste and smell of these whiskies. It is because I don't really know how to. Hopefully I will learn it in time, as I spend more time tasting and reading about whisky.

I keep you posted when I've tried these 4 new purchases


I (finally!) got around to try the whiskies I bougth over a month ago!

Smokehead Extra Black: This one was pretty much as I expected it, smartly packeted and marketed product, but around 20€~ (imo) overpriced. The smell was nice, taste ok, finish quite welcoming, but as a whole, it fell short. I can't put my finger on exactly why, but it did. When I judge every part of it one by one the sum of the score adds up to 83/100. This is, however, too high in my oppinion. Considering every part as a whole, I give it sub 75/100. A bit disappointed, but I was prepared for it so everything is good with the world once again. Still a pretty good whisky if you have some money lying around.

Bowmore Laimrig: This whisky was nothing like I expected it to be. After reading about it and probably laying to much focus on the 'Sherry finish' part, it was a shock when I first tasted it. After doing my best adjusting my expectations (and taste buds) I started to slowley appreciate it. The taste was pretty much oak dipped in tar, and with the natural cask strenght to top it off it gave a very raw expression. I decided to give it 76/100, but since I have most of the bottle left that value might improve over time, when I've had more time to process it.

Caol Ila Unpeated: This one was quite overwhelming. I decided to start the night with this bad boy since it wasn't a peated Islay whisky, and therefore I suspected it to go down a bit easier than the others. Turns out this wasn't really the case. While I'm a big fan of natural cask strengths and usually don't have any troubles drinking 50-60% whiskies without adding water, this one at 64% was a bit too much. After adding water, and then adding some more, my mouth was already anaesthetized (google translate, usage ok?) and I had troubles appreciating it fully. It did however give me a nice perspective on what unpeated malt does to a whisky, and after I get more chances to try it out (and hopefully find the right amount of whisky/water ratio) I do believe I will enjoy it more over time. For now though, I'll give it 73/100.

Bunnahabhain Peated Sherry Butt: The crown jewel of the evening. This relatively young (13 years) whisky was a really nice surprise, probably bougth a false ID from some kids in college, because he could probably get into a bar with the right attitude. It's the first one I ever tasted from Bunnahabhain, and on top of that, a single cask as well. Balance, taste and finish, everything was really nice. Only the smell fell a bit short but I blame that mostly on my brothers lack of real tasting glasses. However, I convinced him to buy real ones, and until then since most of the bottle is left I will have a field day with it at home with my proper glasses. The rating for this whisky landed on a solid 86/100.


We also revisited my oldest and most rare whisky, 41 years old from Glenfarclas, bourbon hogshead, only released in 195 bottles. I've tasted it before and wont spend too much time talking about it, but it is to this day the greatest whisky I've ever tried, and this night just cemented that oppinion. I gave it a 95/100 even without proper glasses, with - 96.

For now, that is all. But next month is Port Ellen 28 years old and Octomore 4.2 (167 ppm) if everything goes as planned, so things have just gotten started in the world of whisky for my part...


Hello again, fellow whisky fans.

Long time no see, but I've been busy. My latest try outs:

Port Ellen 28 years: I can't place this M** F** (insert profanity). One moment it's the nectar of the gods, the other moment it's just plain plain. However, it is a merit of it's own since the distillery is no more, and I'm happy to have bougth it. It cost me a pretty penny, I would only recomend it if you had the money to spare. Still, very good, a solid 90+.

Bruichladdich Octomore Comus 4.2 167ppm: The world 'smokiest' whisky. And boy do it deliver. A beast as young as 5 years, bottled at 61%, still, very balanced. Don't get me wrong, it burns hotter than wildfire and the finish doesn't seem to ever disappear, but considering the phenols and the ABV, it is still suprisingly balanced. Still, I wouldn't recomend it unless you really enjoy peatiness when it comes to whisky. It is, however, one of the best I've ever tried. Straigth to top 5, even topping 4.1 of the same brand.

Kilchoman Machir Bay: This young bastard just happened to make a guest apperance betweeen the two beasts just mentioned. One would think that this vatted malt of only 3 years might fall short considering the competition, but it did surprise me. The nose was really nice, and for such a young bastard, it had a lot of potential. It had sweetness, balance, and even some peat, as an Islay should have, but I do believe as time goes by, this distillery will only grown, not only in size but also in taste. Still a bit rough around the edges if you ask me.

Old Pulteney 21 Years: Trusting the nose and taste of Jim Murray once again, I bougth the latest gold medalist in the 'Whisky Bible' and hoped for the best. I was not disappointed. This time arround (different to the time I tried Ardbeg Uigeadail and wasn't fully prepared to what Jim stands for) I was fully understood with what Jim likes. And I could see why he chose this gem as his favorite the last year. The nose and the balance is out of this world. Taste/finish leaves a small gap to fill for the most fierce to fill, but as a whole, this whisky is one of the best I've ever tried. Not an Islay, but a Highland it does not have the peatiness one would usually look for (read: me), but that doesn't matter. This dram was worth its weigth in liquid gold (a dram to those who get the reference).


Coming up:

Bruichladdich 19 years. A 'stand alone producer' who has bougth just a single cask and marketed it in Sweden. I've tried their Port Charlotte, and of course Octomore, but this will be the first 'true' and old Bruichladdich I'll try. Looking forward to it.

Caol Ila 27 years: Another producer that bougth a single cask. This one is called 'Svenska Eldvatten' and is a Swedish brand, bougth a single cask here and there and released on the swedish market. Caol Ila is one, if not the first love I've ever had when it comes to whisky. Being able to taste a whisky that is older than even myself is always a treat, I will treassure it a lot.


For now though, I will go back to my bottle of Bowmore Tempest and ponder over lifes ups and downs as I slowly drift off into the void...


It is time. I've bougth and tasted another 4 whiskies. Some good stuff for sure.

Bruichladdich 19 years: Fruity liquorice would be my description. First time I tried this one I did it out of order in comparison with the other 3, so it got somewhat overshadowed. That doesn't mean this was a bad whisky, in fact, it's brilliant. I think I finally understand why they're known to be a less smokey and more fruity kind of whisky from Islay. I enjoyed it quite a bit.

Ardbeg Corryvreckan: The DA spell and also Swedish word 'Malström' (maelstrom) makes it self known. Nose is Ardbeg, taste is Ardbeg, but the finish grabs a hold of you and pulls you down into the darkness. I found secrects about life's undertows. (Guess the song? ) For the price tag it really impressed me. Question is, can it's brother live up to the reputation?

Ardbeg Galileo: The answer is yes. This special edition released by Ardbeg is an homage to the casks sent into space (!). This whisky is matured in Marsala casks, and it have had some mixed reviews on it. I'm glad I decided to buy one, though. I actually didn't get a bottle to begin with, was about 10 minutes to late. Turns out the producer had a lot more in store though so I got to order one none the less. I've really started to enjoy whisky matured in (former) wine casks. Gives them depth but also a lot of flavors. I still suck at describing taste, but I really enjoy this whisky from my favorite distillery, Ardbeg. Please, keep going on the path you've chosen, can't go wrong from here as far as I'm concerned.

Caol Ila 27 years: Caol Ila and I have a special relationship. It's basically the whisky that not only got me into Islay, but whisky over all. Tasting their standard 12 year old release really opened my eyes to a world I otherwise dismissed as 'dull, overpriced and niched'. But boy was I wrong (or maybe I wasn't, but if I am, I don't want to be wrong (or right? I lost myself)). So my expectaions on this whisky was pretty high. It didn't disappoint. Weighing in at 27 years (and 11 months), it's the third oldest whisky I've ever tasted, and God damn it, I might be a stereotype whisky enthusiast, but the three oldest whisky I've tasted has been three of the best one as well. Reminding me some of the Port Ellen malt to begin with, the similarities end there. Port Ellen has a very anise finish to it, while Caol Ila is moving more towards the, in lack of a better word, salty (or maybe even salt liquorice) side of things. Difference might seem small, but it made me positively surprised. ABV at 56%~ is helping out to close the expression of one of the most balanced, old Islay malts I've ever tasted. A real gem for sure.

Those are the latest additions to my collection... (read: belly).

Next up: Bunnahabhain Sherry Matured 20 years. Hoping for a real treat. Until then! Take care.
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IPS.Blue
Profile Joined January 2004
Germany309 Posts
November 27 2012 10:28 GMT
#666
Back from the overcrowded InterWhisky in Frankfurt. I managed to try the Ardbeg Galileo before it was sold out and I really liked it: fantastic fruit (matured in ex-marsala (marsala = sweet italian wine) casks) and pleasant Ardbeg peat. Unfortunately it is quite expensive.

I also tried the Kilchoman Machir Bay, which is composed of 3, 4 and 5 year old smoky whisky (only a few weeks in ex-sherry casks) but tastes more like an 8-10 year old. Kilchoman is only operating since 2005 and is something to watch out for ...
Lassepetri
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark112 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-06 10:17:03
December 06 2012 10:15 GMT
#667
So i bought a bottle of 15y Dalwhinnie, as it has been stated as a good beginners whisky (and I fully concur). I find it pleasantly fruity and sweet. Well worth it.

However I then read the label more carefully, where it says "(...) delicately smoky malt". I am no connoisseur by a long shot, but I dont find this whisky smoky at all. It might be because im simply not attuned to the notes, but I was thinking that I might be confusing the terminology - that "smoky" taste doesnt necessarily mean peated? Or how am I to understand it?
Empiristic bullcrap
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16056 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-06 10:20:54
December 06 2012 10:20 GMT
#668
Glad someone bumped this because I have to come in here for a moment to tell y ou about Larceny Bourbon.

If you like Bourbon. You'll love Larceny. http://larcenybourbon.com/home/#

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My buddy's bar that he tends for has a deal with the distributor so they get a lot of it for a good deal, they're selling it now for about 12 bucks a glass and compared with everything else in that price range it's VASTLY superior.

One of the best tasting whiskeys I've had in a long while.
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Artrey
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany270 Posts
December 06 2012 11:20 GMT
#669
On December 06 2012 19:15 Lassepetri wrote:
So i bought a bottle of 15y Dalwhinnie, as it has been stated as a good beginners whisky (and I fully concur). I find it pleasantly fruity and sweet. Well worth it.

However I then read the label more carefully, where it says "(...) delicately smoky malt". I am no connoisseur by a long shot, but I dont find this whisky smoky at all. It might be because im simply not attuned to the notes, but I was thinking that I might be confusing the terminology - that "smoky" taste doesnt necessarily mean peated? Or how am I to understand it?


It definitely is peated. A very light and delicate peat, not like most Islay whiskys, but it is there.

If you compare it to another light highland whisky like Glenmorangie, you should notice the difference.
Lassepetri
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark112 Posts
December 06 2012 11:39 GMT
#670
On December 06 2012 20:20 Artrey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2012 19:15 Lassepetri wrote:
So i bought a bottle of 15y Dalwhinnie, as it has been stated as a good beginners whisky (and I fully concur). I find it pleasantly fruity and sweet. Well worth it.

However I then read the label more carefully, where it says "(...) delicately smoky malt". I am no connoisseur by a long shot, but I dont find this whisky smoky at all. It might be because im simply not attuned to the notes, but I was thinking that I might be confusing the terminology - that "smoky" taste doesnt necessarily mean peated? Or how am I to understand it?


It definitely is peated. A very light and delicate peat, not like most Islay whiskys, but it is there.

If you compare it to another light highland whisky like Glenmorangie, you should notice the difference.


Thank you I wasnt aware of that. I have a bottle of Isle of Jura: Superstition (which im not a huge fan of) as well which is very much peated. In comparison the Dalwhinnie tasted very very fresh and clean and non-peated. But thanks for the enlightenment, Ill certainly keep that in mind next time
Empiristic bullcrap
schaf
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1326 Posts
December 06 2012 11:58 GMT
#671
Currently have Glenfarclas 105 10yo and Bruichladdich Rocks opened.

The 105 is very sensitive to water, I cannot enjoy it pure (60% vol. alc.) but too much water and it just loses much taste, but I think I got a feeling for it now
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Lassepetri
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark112 Posts
December 06 2012 12:01 GMT
#672
On December 06 2012 20:58 schaf wrote:
Currently have Glenfarclas 105 10yo and Bruichladdich Rocks opened.

The 105 is very sensitive to water, I cannot enjoy it pure (60% vol. alc.) but too much water and it just loses much taste, but I think I got a feeling for it now


whats your verdict on Bruichladdich Rocks? Its on sale in a local store where I live, but would like an honest opinion before I do something rash
Empiristic bullcrap
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
December 06 2012 15:42 GMT
#673
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Here in Minneapolis the owner of two well known Irish style Pubs, (one that served the most Jameson in the world at least three years running, unsure about presently http://blogs.citypages.com/food/2009/03/the_local_sells.php) got into the whiskey business. Two Gingers is really tasty, it is a bit more delicate than I generally go for, but if you can procure it definitely worth a go.
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
December 06 2012 16:35 GMT
#674
On October 08 2012 20:40 phyre112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2012 18:04 icemanzdoinwork wrote:
I live around the bourbon trail, but haven't went. Here is what I enjoy for bourbon, which is really the only thing I drink anymore outside expensive beer.

- Rock Hill Farms, best bourbon I've had. $50 for a bottle, but it's delicious.
- Hancock's President's Reserve, Currently my favorite bourbon, because of price. It's so cheap and I love it. Around the same price of Maker's, but I enjoy it more.
- Makers Mark

I'm sure most have tried Makers, but try the other 2 if you are looking for some new bourbon. RHF and Hancock's are great. I'm not sure if Hancock's makes it far from Kentucky. It's usually around $26-$30 a bottle and it's unbeatable at that price.


Makers is #35 for a fifth around here (New York), and I've never seen hancock's. I'll keep an eye out for it though. Buffalo Trace is a pretty solid bourbon, I'll have to try some of the Van Winkle as well, because I know that's at my local store.


Glad someone bumped this thread. Just wanted to pop in and say that I picked up the Van Winkle a while back - certainly a good bourbon, but IMO not worth the price distinction (it's significant, at least here) over an elijah craig or buffalo trace. At least the bottle I had was quite rough tasting, and a little sour - less of the flavors I've come to expect from a bourbon (oak and fire) and more of a long bitter finish that made me think "Rye" (which I despise).

Next time I'm in that price range, I'm not sure what I'll be getting - as I'm coming up on college graduation, it will probably be a gift, and I'll have to go with something that has "name value" - one of the fancier Jack Daniels, or a Johnny Walker I suppose.
Abraxas514
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada475 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-06 17:07:06
December 06 2012 16:55 GMT
#675
On December 06 2012 20:20 Artrey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2012 19:15 Lassepetri wrote:
So i bought a bottle of 15y Dalwhinnie, as it has been stated as a good beginners whisky (and I fully concur). I find it pleasantly fruity and sweet. Well worth it.

However I then read the label more carefully, where it says "(...) delicately smoky malt". I am no connoisseur by a long shot, but I dont find this whisky smoky at all. It might be because im simply not attuned to the notes, but I was thinking that I might be confusing the terminology - that "smoky" taste doesnt necessarily mean peated? Or how am I to understand it?


It definitely is peated. A very light and delicate peat, not like most Islay whiskys, but it is there.

If you compare it to another light highland whisky like Glenmorangie, you should notice the difference.


whinnie is earthy, maybe, but no peat. You can watch ralfy here:



He is the top whisky know-it-all on the internet.

Be careful when reading labels. They can say anything. For a quality, craft presentation look for whiskys that are served at over 40% (43-46 is common), unchillfiltered and "natural color". These are the three indicators that you're getting something of quality.
Fear is the mind killer
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
December 06 2012 17:16 GMT
#676
Been wanting to try Jameson Irish Whiskey but im not 100% sure if it'd be any good? anyone here tried it and can report?
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
December 06 2012 17:18 GMT
#677
On December 07 2012 02:16 arb wrote:
Been wanting to try Jameson Irish Whiskey but im not 100% sure if it'd be any good? anyone here tried it and can report?

Yep, it's excellent. It's softer and fruitier than a scotch. Go for the 18-year-old if you can.
Tanukki
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland579 Posts
December 06 2012 18:23 GMT
#678
Been in Ireland for a few months now, did a bit of a pilgrimage and tasted most of the Irish whiskeys. There's three companies producing whiskey here.

There's Jameson who are based in Midleton. I took the tour in the old distillery there, and it's an interesting history lesson but the actual production goes on in the huge super-modern distillery built right next to it, which isn't open for guests! The "whiskey tasting class" taken at the end of this tour is just some free drinks of the run-of-the mill stuff, rather boring. They have a great gift shop though, you can get a custom labeled bottle of whiskey and all kinds of junk that make for nice christmas presents :p

Their most interesting brands are Green Spot and Yellow Spot, which are the only pure pot still whiskeys still being made. I really like them, this whiskey manages to be complex without being a scotch peat monster or a sweet bourbon, Green Spot is a good benchmark to try Jameson and the other partial pot still whiskeys against. Unfortunately the price has doubled in recent years.

There's Cooley who were the last independent Irish whiskey producer until being bought by Beam a couple years back. You can't get a tour in Cooley but they've recently acquired and reopened an old distillery in Kilbeggan. I highly recommend the tour here, and make sure to go for the one that includes the warehouses. They don't advertise this, but I got a chance to sample some of the 10-20 year old Cooley produced whiskeys (they produce single malt, grain, and peated single malt) fresh from the casks. This is on top of getting free samples of all their main brands in the bar afterwards. The actual distillery has an interesting history as well, and you get to see all parts of the production live and talk to the distillers. These days they use electricity and oil to power things, but all the old machinery like the steam engine, the water mill, the lifts and grinders are still operational as well - these guys could go off the grid at any time without losing productivity, lol.

The single malt whiskey produced by Cooley is very nice, I'd have a hard time distinguishing it from high quality Speyside/Highland style scotch. It's sold under the Tyrconnell brand. The peated version (Connemara) is nice as well, but I think the scots still do that gimmick better.

I haven't gone to the Bushmills distillery yet. It's kinda far away and I'm not sure if I can be bothered. Black Bush is a very nice budget Irish whiskey that's in my opinion a big step up from the lowest price point. Also there's a new independent distillery in Dingle, something to look out for in ten years or so!
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
December 06 2012 19:34 GMT
#679
Oh yeah, Bushmills. Their 21-year-old whiskey is fucking awesome, and it is relatively cheap at ~$80-90.
xaoteca
Profile Joined August 2011
Czech Republic34 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-07 03:42:48
December 07 2012 03:40 GMT
#680
On December 07 2012 02:18 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 02:16 arb wrote:
Been wanting to try Jameson Irish Whiskey but im not 100% sure if it'd be any good? anyone here tried it and can report?

Yep, it's excellent. It's softer and fruitier than a scotch. Go for the 18-year-old if you can.


I must say that I like the 12-yo over the 18-yo. 18-yo didn't impress me at all, and its really expensive, at least where I live.

On other note, I recently tried the 10y old Ardbeg and its really amazing. I definitely recommend it.
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