Porn needs to temptation, who said rape?
Man sentenced to life for possession of child porn - Page 30
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SomniGiggles
United Kingdom214 Posts
Porn needs to temptation, who said rape? | ||
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Myles
United States5162 Posts
On November 06 2011 23:31 Gigglesstarcraft wrote: Difference is, you haven't shown signs of doing it. Nobody, nobody looks at porn and thinks, I'm happy with this, I never want to have sex with woman/men like that, I will stay on porn forever! Why would you play a game you don't want to experience in real life? That's why it's called fantasy. People do fantasize about weird shit all the time, and they also realize that they can't act out those fantasies. Hell, most guys would love to have sex with a 16 year old virgin, but they don't go out acting on it. Now, the problem I see is the child porn production. Children getting hurt is the problem that lawmakers think they're combating by outlawing the product. The general population just likes that a pedo is going to jail. And in the end they just ruin somebodies life so that they feel better about something they're not making any better. | ||
LetoAtreides82
United States1188 Posts
I think rapists should get a much higher sentence than that, but I think any rational person can agree that a guy looking at child porn (but never touching a child or even communicating with a child) doesn't deserve a life term, and probably should get months of jail time rather years. | ||
SafeAsCheese
United States4924 Posts
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KingAce
United States471 Posts
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mustache
Switzerland309 Posts
On November 06 2011 23:31 Gigglesstarcraft wrote: Difference is, you haven't shown signs of doing it. Nobody, nobody looks at porn and thinks, I'm happy with this, I never want to have sex with woman/men like that, I will stay on porn forever! so you're saying that you have sex with your bf/gf exactly the same way you see it in a porn movie? im positive 99% of people dont do the stuff you see in porn. Why? because fantasy and actually doing something are very far apart. | ||
LetoAtreides82
United States1188 Posts
On November 06 2011 23:42 KingAce wrote: Someone needs to protect children. Child porn not okay, hell if he got the death penalty I would care. We have to draw a line as a society. But this isn't the way to do it. Just because he looked at child porn doesn't mean he's going to actually molest children. That's like saying everyone who plays first person shooter video games will actually shoot and kill people. If you want to protect children, give people who actually molested children a much tougher sentence than what they get now. As my previous post said some child rapists get as little as a 2 year term and most of them get out in half that time. | ||
taintmachine
United States431 Posts
On November 06 2011 23:32 Gnax wrote: That's why I used the words "some" and "probably". I know it's 1/1 persons feelings. And my brain tells me, it's likely someone elses feelings aswell. That's how brains work. Let's say someone gets raped at 10 and goes through hell until she's 20. And then is given the option to either end it peacefully or go through the same thing again. Do you really think it would be weird to choose the former? that's actually not how brains work, unless you mean we have a way of placing our thoughts into the heads of others and thinking we are right in doing so. it is quite natural to assume what others are thinking, probably or some or whatever. i don't think it's a big deal until we get to serious subjects like suicide, life sentences, etc. i'm not going to go through rape-themed hypotheticals involving the victim being given a choice between living a repeat, mirrored existence or dying. if you can't see why i think that's weird (and i'll add that it's pointless to me) then i'll just let it go. | ||
IMStyle
Canada52 Posts
Although it seems harsh... This would make others think twice before actually downloading child porn again. They might not have violated any children directly, but indirectly they have, by supporting the child porn community. Enjoying child porn is far from a fetish...it is sick and most likely a mental disorder. If given the opportunity, these people will actually commit the crime of molesting or raping a child, that time just Havnt arrive for him yet. | ||
SafeAsCheese
United States4924 Posts
On November 06 2011 23:54 IMStyle wrote: ... ... ... ... ... ... ... Although it seems harsh... This would make others think twice before actually downloading child porn again. They might not have violated any children directly, but indirectly they have, by supporting the child porn community. No life sentence worthy offense. On November 06 2011 23:54 IMStyle wrote:Enjoying child porn is far from a fetish...it is sick and most likely a mental disorder. So it's perfectly okay to give a life sentence to people with a mental disorder instead of helping them? I hear a lot of talk of Scandinavian prison systems being about rehabilitation, not keeping people in for-profit prison systems forever. On November 06 2011 23:54 IMStyle wrote: If given the opportunity, these people will actually commit the crime of molesting or raping a child, that time just Havnt arrive for him yet. This has no basis of fact | ||
Linwelin
Ireland7554 Posts
On November 06 2011 23:54 IMStyle wrote: ... ... ... ... ... ... ... Although it seems harsh... This would make others think twice before actually downloading child porn again. They might not have violated any children directly, but indirectly they have, by supporting the child porn community. Enjoying child porn is far from a fetish...it is sick and most likely a mental disorder. If given the opportunity, these people will actually commit the crime of molesting or raping a child, that time just Havnt arrive for him yet. Then why does downloading music/movies hurt the movie/music industry? | ||
RA
Latvia791 Posts
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bonifaceviii
Canada2890 Posts
Edit: yes, yes, child porn is bad but damn that dude had an enemy somewhere... | ||
Olinimm
1471 Posts
On November 06 2011 23:54 IMStyle wrote: ... ... ... ... ... ... ... Although it seems harsh... This would make others think twice before actually downloading child porn again. They might not have violated any children directly, but indirectly they have, by supporting the child porn community. Enjoying child porn is far from a fetish...it is sick and most likely a mental disorder. If given the opportunity, these people will actually commit the crime of molesting or raping a child, that time just Havnt arrive for him yet. If they didn't pay for it, they really didn't support anything at all. Plus, you can't assume that they are gonna commit a completely separate crime like molestation and charge them more harshly for that. That is simply nonsensical, disgusting, and unjust. You don't know what they will do. Also, indirectly harming someone in this manner is not grounds for anything even CLOSE to a life sentence. I'm sure you and every person in this thread has purchased something that was made by a child laborer at one point or another, by your logic we are awful people and we support child labor. Also let me say this again, second hand smoke kills 3,000 people every year. Does that make every smoker who supports the smoking industry a murderer, or at least partially responsible? | ||
HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
On November 06 2011 23:42 SafeAsCheese wrote: Sounds like this guy has a pretty rich enemy. this | ||
Symbioth
Poland103 Posts
That is yet another injustice and the real problem is that the system of justice itself commits terrible injustice. It all comes back around and the group of cells will continue to have the problem because system of justice does not bring justice, it fuels injustice - just as this one cell of a problematic group of cells has a problem and fuels the problem. If you would want to go around it the way of vengance, you would need to now take one guy from the system of justice and sentence him for life for fueling the problem of the system of justice commiting terrible injustice. Would that be justice ? No and that's the point. This sentence is fucking silly and simply represents the dysfunction of our society - at least relative to the presented side of the issue. | ||
Bango
United States106 Posts
Had Mr. Vilca actually molested a child, they note, he might well have received a lighter sentence. thats all that needs to be said.... =/ i still think child porn should never be done, but the punishment should fit the crime. | ||
XazXio
United States356 Posts
On November 06 2011 10:14 Jonoman92 wrote: Um... wtf? There is a kid in my school who killed someone driving drunk, and after 3 years in prison he is back in school and his life relatively uninterrupted. The justice system sucks so bad. Child porn is wrong, but giving the guy life in prison just sounds absolutely absurd. Reading the article now. edit: The article is missing a lot of facts I'd like to know. I mean, it just says the guy has 100s of pornagraphic children images on his computer. But I'm sure there are viruses that could make that happen. Are you saying I can get on someone's computer, create a semi-hidden folder on it that they won't find (and will look that much more incriminating when found by authorities), and then call cops with an anonymous tip? I agree with this guy, sure its wrong and gross but its not murder. and if you look at celebs they don't even go to fucking jail because they are famous which is bullshit. he should be fined and sent to jail but not for life. as morgan freeman said, "When they send you in for life, that's exactly what they take, a life." | ||
hp.Shell
United States2527 Posts
Edit: also there's really no way to prove he downloaded the pictures himself or looked at them for that matter, unless he had them set as his desktop or something. Like Jonoman92 said, someone could be setting him up. Especially suspicious of this situation because of the length of the sentence. Edit2: I'm passwording my computer that only I have access to and only I use. Just so some scumbag can't set me up with anything like this ever. Not that it will ever happen but it's better to be safe and save the REST OF MY LIFETIME by passwording my computer. | ||
teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
im also shocked how many people in this thread agree with it. | ||
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