EPTJudge beats daughter for using the internet - Page 80
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ampson
United States2355 Posts
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Irave
United States9965 Posts
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exzires
United States15 Posts
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NoobSkills
United States1603 Posts
On November 04 2011 05:46 Brosaurus wrote: Why is everyone getting worked up. I know it's hard to understand, but it's a cultural thing. I seriously don't see anything wrong with that video. I understand how someone who never experienced that would be upset but based on that video, it's not that bad. Now he may be a terrible parent, but I don't think that video is enough proof. On another note, the reason she uploaded the video now was because her father wanted her car back. Probably the one HE bought her. She threatened to upload the video and he didn't care, because he didn't think it was bad. Lastly, why are people lashing out against corporal punishment but then turning around and saying that the father should get the shit kicked out of him. I find that weird. Human Sacrifice is a "cultural thing" too. Sup? Edit: Also I don't see how getting rid of the computer and I actually mean getting rid of it isn't the actual solution. Being without something because you don't know how to use it properly teaches more of a lesson than a beating. Like taking a way a child's car for speeding, making them then walk to school. Now, the child thinks "This is much harder without Y I should probably use Y properly." Perhaps writing out her 16 page English paper a few times because of the rough draft process might make her think twice before pirating again. | ||
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metbull
United States404 Posts
On November 04 2011 06:51 urashimakt wrote: He beat his daughter.... and that, my friend, is what is important, not the why or causation. | ||
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urashimakt
United States1591 Posts
On November 04 2011 07:23 metbull wrote: and that, my friend, is what is important, not the why or causation. Yeah, well I disagree. Beating someone for no reason is way different than beating someone for breaking the law. They're both wrong in my opinion and the guy deserves investigation, but they're still different. | ||
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TsoBadGuy
United States221 Posts
On November 02 2011 10:37 Kimaker wrote: While I don't agree with the reason, I see nothing wrong there with the immediate punishment. Yes (having now read the full context of her condition) that was too much. But corporal punishment overall isn't bad. For me it was the continuation of the conversation that got me riled up. Corporal punishment is fine, I myself was raised with corporal punishment as a possibility, but the fact that he didn't let it go was a bit much for me. Honestly, everyone's going to freak out and say she should be removed from the house, but I think that's ridiculous. She got belted. Woo hoo. Getting belted hurts like a son of a bitch, but it's nothing seriously harmful. And please don't pull the "mentally scarring" card out. It's not. I promise you. Was Bambi serial raped in front of you? How is your common sense so bad? This isn't mentally scarring? I think you think you have an idea because of your life experiences. When someone says with absolution something isn't mentally scarring, and it's 2 parents teaming up on a child to beat her, I seriously wonder what happened to you that you're so hardened. I feel sorry for you, and whatever thoughts you have being not only poisonous, but invalid entirely. | ||
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slytown
Korea (South)1411 Posts
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riverkim09
United States291 Posts
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
On November 04 2011 07:31 riverkim09 wrote: I don't understand the debate here. Are people arguing that corporal punishment in its entirety is wrong? or this particular extreme case? Most people are arguing that any corporal punishment is wrong. Some that find corporal punishment okay are still disgusted by this particular case. Cherry on top is, the father is actually a family court judge and had some interesting argumentation in the past in his court cases. | ||
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metbull
United States404 Posts
On November 04 2011 07:06 ampson wrote: It seems like half the people in this thread didn't read the whole OP and article. She was punished for pirating, which IS a crime, NOT using the internet. And while the father did undoubtedly go too far for beating her for the length of time that he did, and said some things that I'm sure he regrets, corporal punishment is not a bad thing, he just went too far with it. I agree the OP is wrong in part not in whole. According the reports she was caught pirating some form of software that wasn't legally available for purchase. But you have to be on the internet to download something. Yeah its a bit misleading; but if someone does 1 google search they will learn what the situation is. So if the op was changed to reflect she was beat for pirating does that make the father justified in doing what he did then? Ok, so now if I catch you speeding on your way to work.... I now get to pull you out of your car and beat the shit out of you? I say you, but I don't direct it at you ampson, but its a collective "you." Does the fact that you broke the law justify your punishment? No. Also, how many times must a person go "too far with it" for it to be criminal? You've got to have a serious answer for me somewhere in there. Also I am for corporal punishment. But I am against Child Abuse. | ||
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Apollo_Shards
1210 Posts
On November 04 2011 07:20 NoobSkills wrote: Human Sacrifice is a "cultural thing" too. Sup? Edit: Also I don't see how getting rid of the computer and I actually mean getting rid of it isn't the actual solution. Being without something because you don't know how to use it properly teaches more of a lesson than a beating. Like taking a way a child's car for speeding, making them then walk to school. Now, the child thinks "This is much harder without Y I should probably use Y properly." Perhaps writing out her 16 page English paper a few times because of the rough draft process might make her think twice before pirating again. So is female mutilation. But hey, it's culture! | ||
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Yergidy
United States2107 Posts
Unfortunately the judge can't be tried criminally because of the statute of limitations is up, but I guarantee he will lose his judgeship. BTW this is a Texas judge OP. I heard about it on a Houston talk radio station and thought " Hey i saw something like that on TL like a week ago" Way to lead the way! GJ | ||
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NoisyNinja
United States991 Posts
"I do believe she is too immature" -The mother said that...she had no problem with beating her child for using something that is part of everyday society. | ||
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riverkim09
United States291 Posts
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TWIX_Heaven
Denmark169 Posts
All I have to say to this is that violence is never a solution ever. Not spanking, not hitting (open or closed hand lol wtf), not kicking, not showing supreme power, not mental violence, not verbal violence, not war - not any fucking thing. We seriously need to get past this medieval way of handling our own bad behaviour and wrong perceptions. This case is even beyond that, this is serious psychological terror - not punishment of any sort. If anything its a display of the fathers own issues and faults not the daughter. Violence (studies shows - no surprise) does not teach kids anything other than violence is the only way to solve problems. And thus are more likely to be violent themselves either to their kids, their wife or their fellow man. End violence - free your heart and soul and evolve! yay! (fun fact: In Denmark it is illegal to ever hurt your child in any way and is considered a serious crime in that it humiliates, exerts power over a less capable person and can lead to serious psychological issues/traumas - and hey guess what! We are doing pretty damn well) | ||
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MartynX
United Kingdom122 Posts
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metbull
United States404 Posts
On November 04 2011 07:28 urashimakt wrote: Yeah, well I disagree. Beating someone for no reason is way different than beating someone for breaking the law. They're both wrong in my opinion and the guy deserves investigation, but they're still different. Ok so I can beat anyone's ass for say.........speeding? Justified (or just different?) now? They clearly violated the state/federal law. And therefore must be punished. So I am well within my rights as a father to physically beat my child for 7 minutes and 30 (taking breaks throughout to catch my breath or get another belt cause I just have to have one in my hands) and emotionally abusing my child as well. By the way there is something called the 14th Amendment (the Due Process clause) it protects people from punishments of this kind. If this father thought that what she did was so terrible and illegal; turn her it. I mean he is a judge after all. Sworn to uphold the law...... what a farce And what you've said doesn't show me HOW they are different. Your only saying they are different, with no justification. Beating = Child Abuse (no defined goals to deter further prohibited actions) spanking = corporal punishment (defined goals to deter further prohibited actions) A)Walking up to someone (you don't know) and beating them down can (but not always) earn you the same punishment as if that b) person beat up someone who just stole their cell phone. A) is just Battery b) is Assault and Battery Judge Adams might have been brought up on charges (at the time) for Aggravated Assault and Battery. Aggravated because a belt may or may not be considered a deadly weapon in Texas. And yes people, you can die from a belt, and children have before. google it. I agree with you on this point, he does deserve investigation. | ||
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Irave
United States9965 Posts
On November 04 2011 07:52 MartynX wrote: How/why was this on video is what I kept thinking through this. (sorry if already asked, I looked through 10 pages and could not see anything on it) I guess you can assume she was expecting it and had the hidden camera rolling. | ||
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Thermia
United States866 Posts
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