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HeroCommanD
Profile Joined March 2011
England33 Posts
November 03 2011 20:32 GMT
#1561
I hope the police get to see the video and give this disgraceful person what he deserves... It's appauling to beat someone, let alone a family member!
imperator-xy
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Germany1377 Posts
November 03 2011 20:33 GMT
#1562
what the fuck how could a human being possibly be so bad to its own daughter
Egyptian_Head
Profile Joined October 2010
South Africa508 Posts
November 03 2011 20:33 GMT
#1563
On November 04 2011 05:21 riverkim09 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2011 05:04 Egyptian_Head wrote:
On November 04 2011 04:57 sereniity wrote:
On November 03 2011 07:29 Daozzt wrote:
On November 03 2011 07:25 gentile wrote:
On November 03 2011 07:21 ayaz2810 wrote:
On November 03 2011 07:20 gentile wrote:
On November 03 2011 07:18 ayaz2810 wrote:
On November 03 2011 07:08 Zuxo wrote:
On November 03 2011 06:52 ayaz2810 wrote:
[quote]


I don't mind a good old fashioned spanking. That being said, no one should be beating on a 16 year old. That's wrong in and of itself. Secondly, a spanking is supposed to be about correcting a behavior. This beating was about anger. Look at how he beats her across the legs and such. And the language he and the mother use. This was not just a punishment, this was them losing control. That's not acceptable at any age.


EDIT: Go go internet white knights!!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45135221/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/

2nd EDIT: Yes, I spank my kids. I think it's fine in extreme circumstances and in moderation.


How is it okay hitting your kids? You are using a behavior that is extremely tribal and can not even be classified as civilized. Try using methods of raising your children that won't cause mental damage.



Religion causes more damage to more people than I ever could. Talk about tribal. People will be outspoken about spanking, but not that garbage. Brool story co.

On topic, I generally only use physical discipline in a few circumstances. For example, my kids bedroom and playroom are on the 2nd floor of my house. I've told my kids repeatedly not to touch the windows or the lock things that stop the window from being opened. On one occasion, I walked upstairs and found one of the windows unlocked and partially open. And you can bet that I dished out a spanking in that case. A little bit of pain to avoid a lot more is fine with me. It's a good way to get your point across when something is very serious. I know people like to think that all children can be reasoned with, and that anything that is important to you is important to them. That's just not the case. My kids are super smart, and very mature, but sometimes you just can't get a point across without drastic action. Love it or hate it, it works.


Unfortunatly for your kids there father seems to be a fucking prick. (I take the ban, dont care)



Lol whut? Was a pretty reasonable argument I thought. Where did the "fucking prick" part come from? O.o


Actually allready in your first sentence, I gladly explain it to you. Religion does not cause damage it is the people that do (I am not religous at all), but it is Anthropolgy that is the last riddle of Religion (This you dont have to understand).
Secondly, you punish your children cause you, yes the "YOU" is important here, cannot reason with them, cannot think of a solution diffrently then resolving to matters like that. You will find one day that you caused damage on you children (I am sure you love them) by not thinking a bit more what else you could do then doing the EASY solution...it works at the end says everything.


I don't understand, what is wrong with spanking your kids when they do something wrong (that's serious)? I'm pretty sure when I was 8, the only way I'd listen to my parents is if they pulled out the belt or broke my gameboy. Grounding or talking to a kid seriously doesn't do shit.


Then break the fucking gameboy?

Don't see how that's hard to understand... every kid has something that they value alot, take that thing instead of hitting the child.


Why?


It's been proven that as children age, they see corporal punishment as being less and less frightening. They know that they just take hit, wait, then everything is back normal. Destroying the object that caused the wrongdoing inthe first place tends to have bigger effect.


That is an argument against regular corporal punishment. You say they get used to it. Why not just no more then 5 times in there life. When they try make a Molotov cocktail and throw it at a gas station that kind of thing (True Story)
Molu
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden42 Posts
November 03 2011 20:34 GMT
#1564
On November 04 2011 05:14 Digitalis wrote:
I mean if she just bent over like her father told her to she wouldn't have got it that bad. I know its a natural reaction to resist it, but since she taped this I assume she got beat regularly. This video isn't that bad. Some factors that would elicit our pity more so than another video of a beating would be the fact that she was a female child, her resistance in the form of her screams, which pissed her father off even more.

Basically just re imagine this video with a male child who just bent over the bed and took it and we could have been spared this whole dramatic event.



Are you actually fucking being serious right now?

BOTH her parents are fucking abusing her with physical manhandling. And you're saying she should get on her stomache and take it? I say she should get to her feet, get her knife and kill that fucking wanking pathetic excuse of a "father."

That's not a father, that's a psychopathic criminal that is,.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17546 Posts
November 03 2011 20:35 GMT
#1565
On November 04 2011 05:30 Molu wrote:
The fucking mom joins in and spanks her aswell. Oh my fucking god. These parents should be locked up, key threwn away and this daughter should come to a family that's loving.

This is fucking sickening and disgusting, some of the worst shit I've seen.

That this girl doesn't run away from home / absolutelly manhandle her parents is wierd. Hopefully she contacts me, I'll help her with both of those.

That just made me so god damn pissed off, ARGH


This girl is now 23 years old and living on her own. She waited 7 years to upload this video.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
metbull
Profile Joined April 2011
United States404 Posts
November 03 2011 20:39 GMT
#1566
people who think "this is acceptable behavior from a father punishing his child", your out of touch with what the court system calls "the evolving standards of decency." What was once permitted, is what is now considered not allowed based on a change in public views and a change in legislation. Before 2005 it was legal to execute a juvenile (under the age of 18). But due to the change in "the evolving standards of decency" and other factors the US Supreme Court said it was unconstitutional to use capital punishment (death penalty for those who don't know) on a juvenile (even one tried in an adult court).

The Federal Child Abuse Prevention and Treatment Act (CAPTA) (42 U.S.C.A. § 5106g), as amended by the CAPTA Reauthorization Act of 2010, defines child abuse and neglect as, at minimum: - 1) "Any recent act or failure to act on the part of a parent or caretaker which results in death, serious physical or emotional harm, sexual abuse or exploitation"; or 2) "An act or failure to act which presents an imminent risk of serious harm."

Are some of you people watching this and thinking, "I bet he's hitting her with a Nerf belt" or "That's got to be really really soft leather, cause she doesn't look hurt at all." Just because it was done to you doesn't mean that it is ok for everyone. I was punished with a belt from time to time. Not like this though. It's not your fault someone treated you this way. And it's not your fault for being made to believe this ok by your guardian. This was clearly a case of child abuse. And if you have/were/or are going though a situation similar to this please talk to someone. It is not ok for any human to treat another human in this manner.

Brosaurus
Profile Joined May 2011
United States12 Posts
November 03 2011 20:46 GMT
#1567
Why is everyone getting worked up. I know it's hard to understand, but it's a cultural thing. I seriously don't see anything wrong with that video. I understand how someone who never experienced that would be upset but based on that video, it's not that bad. Now he may be a terrible parent, but I don't think that video is enough proof.

On another note, the reason she uploaded the video now was because her father wanted her car back. Probably the one HE bought her. She threatened to upload the video and he didn't care, because he didn't think it was bad.

Lastly, why are people lashing out against corporal punishment but then turning around and saying that the father should get the shit kicked out of him. I find that weird.
Paperplane
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands1823 Posts
November 03 2011 20:54 GMT
#1568
On November 04 2011 05:46 Brosaurus wrote:
Why is everyone getting worked up. I know it's hard to understand, but it's a cultural thing. I seriously don't see anything wrong with that video. I understand how someone who never experienced that would be upset but based on that video, it's not that bad. Now he may be a terrible parent, but I don't think that video is enough proof.

On another note, the reason she uploaded the video now was because her father wanted her car back. Probably the one HE bought her. She threatened to upload the video and he didn't care, because he didn't think it was bad.

Lastly, why are people lashing out against corporal punishment but then turning around and saying that the father should get the shit kicked out of him. I find that weird.


Being a cultural thing doesn't make it immune to criticism.
1sd2sd3sd
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
660 Posts
November 03 2011 20:56 GMT
#1569
All he is "teaching" her is to become better at lying, violence is not the answer to problems, and this doesn't even seem to be a problem.
Serthius
Profile Joined December 2010
Samoa226 Posts
November 03 2011 20:57 GMT
#1570
The fact that there are people in this thread who think this is okay tells me the human race still has a long way to go.
Buffy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden665 Posts
November 03 2011 20:58 GMT
#1571
On November 04 2011 05:46 Brosaurus wrote:
Why is everyone getting worked up. I know it's hard to understand, but it's a cultural thing. I seriously don't see anything wrong with that video. I understand how someone who never experienced that would be upset but based on that video, it's not that bad. Now he may be a terrible parent, but I don't think that video is enough proof.

On another note, the reason she uploaded the video now was because her father wanted her car back. Probably the one HE bought her. She threatened to upload the video and he didn't care, because he didn't think it was bad.

Lastly, why are people lashing out against corporal punishment but then turning around and saying that the father should get the shit kicked out of him. I find that weird.

Usually dodge these topics like the plague, but you find it what took place in the clip ok ? How can beating a family member with a belt be seen as cultural ? Seem more like lack of being a normal person more then anything, sure everyone has gotten some punishment from their parents that was painful in some way. But thats just overboard on so many levels.
Yes I am
Molu
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden42 Posts
November 03 2011 21:05 GMT
#1572
On November 04 2011 05:46 Brosaurus wrote:
Why is everyone getting worked up. I know it's hard to understand, but it's a cultural thing. I seriously don't see anything wrong with that video. I understand how someone who never experienced that would be upset but based on that video, it's not that bad. Now he may be a terrible parent, but I don't think that video is enough proof.

On another note, the reason she uploaded the video now was because her father wanted her car back. Probably the one HE bought her. She threatened to upload the video and he didn't care, because he didn't think it was bad.

Lastly, why are people lashing out against corporal punishment but then turning around and saying that the father should get the shit kicked out of him. I find that weird.



Sure she got beat up as a child, her parents were terrible and hit her repeatedly with a belt because she's on the internet, and she gets no support what so ever from anyone, when she's being fucking manhandled for a long time in her own home.

But he did buy her a car, so I guess it's all fine.

You, sir, are hopefully trying the most disgusting troll I've heard, or I'm afraid for people you meet if you think this kind of treatment is okay.
Kukaracha
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
France1954 Posts
November 03 2011 21:05 GMT
#1573
On November 04 2011 05:54 Paperplane wrote:
Why is everyone getting worked up. I know it's hard to understand, but it's a cultural thing. I seriously don't see anything wrong with that video. I understand how someone who never experienced that would be upset but based on that video, it's not that bad. Now he may be a terrible parent, but I don't think that video is enough proof.

On another note, the reason she uploaded the video now was because her father wanted her car back. Probably the one HE bought her. She threatened to upload the video and he didn't care, because he didn't think it was bad.

Lastly, why are people lashing out against corporal punishment but then turning around and saying that the father should get the shit kicked out of him. I find that weird.


The father clearly has no problem with not only whipping her, but (and this is his quote) 'whipping her into submission", humiliating his daughter almost in sadistic way.
Traditional whipping would be a certain amount of whips, then it's over. My parents used to get that, it would be something like, OK, you've fucked up, stay still, it's 15 hits.

But this guy goes on and on and ON and ON like it was a party or something. He leaves when he's bored of it. Not because she cries more, she had already been crying for 15 minutes, no, and not because the punishment was done - did he even count the whips? - no, he just stopped because he felt like stopping.

If you have done so much research about this case, then how come you don't mention his wife left him because of his abusive personality?


I don't have anything about corporal punishment if the kid has really fucked up badly (which is not really the case here, but whatever). But you do it and you stop. The man wants to "HUMILIATE THAT BITCH" and make her feel like a crawling worm who spits blood out of each one of her pores. That's hate and sadism.
Le long pour l'un pour l'autre est court (le mot-à-mot du mot "amour").
Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
November 03 2011 21:10 GMT
#1574
When I was a little kid, most of the times my punishment for doing something was 1-2 months of not being able to do something I really liked other than physical activities / sports and reading. This usually meant video games. 1-2 months without Zelda or Civilization was torture .
Nash
Profile Joined October 2011
151 Posts
November 03 2011 21:15 GMT
#1575
On November 04 2011 06:05 Molu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2011 05:46 Brosaurus wrote:
Why is everyone getting worked up. I know it's hard to understand, but it's a cultural thing. I seriously don't see anything wrong with that video. I understand how someone who never experienced that would be upset but based on that video, it's not that bad. Now he may be a terrible parent, but I don't think that video is enough proof.

On another note, the reason she uploaded the video now was because her father wanted her car back. Probably the one HE bought her. She threatened to upload the video and he didn't care, because he didn't think it was bad.

Lastly, why are people lashing out against corporal punishment but then turning around and saying that the father should get the shit kicked out of him. I find that weird.



Sure she got beat up as a child, her parents were terrible and hit her repeatedly with a belt because she's on the internet, and she gets no support what so ever from anyone, when she's being fucking manhandled for a long time in her own home.

But he did buy her a car, so I guess it's all fine.

You, sir, are hopefully trying the most disgusting troll I've heard, or I'm afraid for people you meet if you think this kind of treatment is okay.


Fighting against windmills again, I see.
scribe123456
Profile Joined April 2011
United States43 Posts
November 03 2011 21:43 GMT
#1576
Just a thought:

Lets say your are caught downloading music from pb or someplace illegal, and you are taken to court and the judge fined you .$54,000 OR 17 swipes from this guy here.... is there anyone here who would not take the 17 swipes? I would.

(this girl was downloading pirated music).
Clouttt
Profile Joined July 2010
United States33 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-03 21:53:02
November 03 2011 21:51 GMT
#1577
^People like you seriously shouldn't even post in this thread. Okay, so the girl made a mistake, thus that justifies the Father's actions? If you've even read pieces of this thread you should see how many times its been said, its not the fact that she received corporal punishment, its the manner in which its delivered, and how malicious and aggressive the Father is. He's not teaching a lesson or disciplining the kid, he - is - ABUSING her. This is a scarring and traumatic experience, and this very obviously is not a first time thing or anything of that nature. Who the fuck has never downloaded some illegal music in their lives? I can't think of anyone i know personally, in my age group atleast. So you don't think you would have resentment towards your parents, if they went through your kazaa files when you were in 8th grade, and then beat the shit out of you for it? you're an idiot.

**Not to mention, for the eight-hundreth fucking time, SHE IS A SIXTEEN YEAR OLD GIRL WITH A MENTAL HANDICAP. He is fucking FULL SWING beating her dude. over some fucking music on the internet. if you think this is acceptable, i really very sincerely hope you're sterile, because you are not fit to be a parent.
If a beast cannot be tamed, it must be unleashed.
urashimakt
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1591 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-03 21:56:20
November 03 2011 21:51 GMT
#1578
On November 04 2011 06:43 scribe123456 wrote:
Just a thought:

Lets say your are caught downloading music from pb or someplace illegal, and you are taken to court and the judge fined you .$54,000 OR 17 swipes from this guy here.... is there anyone here who would not take the 17 swipes? I would.

(this girl was downloading pirated music).

I don't agree with the way he went about discouraging her from pirating, but the title of the thread and even some news sources are even more appalling to me. She was punished for stealing, not for using the internet in the Deepest South.

On November 04 2011 06:51 Clouttt wrote:
^People like you seriously shouldn't even post in this thread. Okay, so the girl made a mistake, thus that justifies the Father's actions? If you've even read pieces of this thread you should see how many times its been said, its not the fact that she received corporal punishment, its the manner in which its delivered, and how malicious and aggressive the Father is. He's not teaching a lesson or disciplining the kid, he - is - ABUSING her. This is a scarring and traumatic experience, and this very obviously is not a first time thing or anything of that nature. Who the fuck has never downloaded some illegal music in their lives? I can't think of anyone i know personally, in my age group atleast. So you don't think you would have resentment towards your parents, if they went through your kazaa files when you were in 8th grade, and then beat the shit out of you for it? you're an idiot.

You're overreacting. He has a point, the way this story is being presented is absolutely misleading and pirating is a crime with a hefty possible punishment. I have downloaded copyrighted materials and yet I still understand that. We can all see that the beating this father gave his child was definitely severe, and many believe far too severe. That's still no reason to misrepresent the truth just to pile it on the guy. He should be punished for what he's actually done, not what we've exaggerated him to have done.

He beat his daughter for stealing, not using the internet.
Who dat ninja?
Bigtony
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1606 Posts
November 03 2011 21:53 GMT
#1579
On November 04 2011 06:43 scribe123456 wrote:
Just a thought:

Lets say your are caught downloading music from pb or someplace illegal, and you are taken to court and the judge fined you .$54,000 OR 17 swipes from this guy here.... is there anyone here who would not take the 17 swipes? I would.

(this girl was downloading pirated music).


There is a difference between just getting spanked/caned/whatever X number of times (not this video), and someone beating you in a fit of rage (this video).
Push 2 Harder
aaronlolol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
134 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-03 22:08:09
November 03 2011 22:03 GMT
#1580
So don't take this the wrong way and don't be a douche if you disagree, but I see nothing wrong with spanking your child. As a matter of a fact, I do think that parents these days are too lenient on their kids. Now a 16 year old is a bit different. At that age you should be having stern talks with them, not spanking them that is dumb and just shows you are not smart enough to get across and teach your kid what you need to.
Another thing to keep in mind is spanking and BEATING are two different things. I know friends from home that were BEAT as children. Like bruised and smacked around, even bruised on their face and etc. That girl was not BEAT, she was spanked really harshly which I still don't agree with at her age.
While I do feel bad for this girl and this father of hers seems like a total piece of garbage, think of this too. If it was a boy getting beat, 90% of us would see it from a totally different eye and not even shed a metaphorical tear. Just the same way that yes, girls being sexually abused is AWFUL but when 4 girls physically sexually harass a boy, everyone just turns a shoulder and charges don't get pressed.
I really hope this girl goes on to succeed in her life and gets away from her father, and I hope she can get over this event as well. But really, it is not like she was beaten into a pulp and it's not the worst thing out there.
God bless and godspeed to her and her mother though. That dude is a piece of trash.

Also for those of you that are shitting on her mother, please take 30 seconds and go read the description of the video on YouTube. It specifically says that her mother is hardly to blame because of her abuse and manipulative father, so if you don't really know the story don't shit on the mother. Yeah she was in the wrong as well but her husband probably told her that he would beat her if she didn't talk down to and beat the girl as well.
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