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Inertia_EU
United Kingdom513 Posts
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Hynda
Sweden2226 Posts
On November 04 2011 01:20 ElJefe wrote: I live in georgia which is a southern state and i can tell you that public office does not "almost require" you to be of some Christian denomination. Sure a lot of public officials are christian but that is because I live in the Bible belt and the majority of people are Christians so by default the majority of public officials will be too. Secondly, the last time I looked at the map Texas is not a southern state. I have family that lives in Texas and I have been to Corpus Christie (where the family lived) and that area is a day and night difference from what you refer to as "Southern States". The girl is 24 now it is unlikely she is just now living on her own especially if this was the kind of house she was raised in. In the article MaliciousMirth posted it says her father was "harassing" her. I would be willing to bet the release of this video was purely motivated by trying to get revenge. If that is the case the woman is using something bad that happened 7 years ago as an instrument to play on people's heart strings to lash back at her dad. So again I ask, if justice is honestly what she is looking for, why wait so long? Because plucking up the courage to do something against your abuser is sooooo easy right? Alot of people can't even tell tehir loved ones, much less the world | ||
Coca Cola Classic
266 Posts
On November 04 2011 01:28 Inertia_EU wrote: What is worse is that he wont face criminal charges after authorities said that the statute of limitations for causing bodily injury to a child is five years and the incident occurred seven years ago.. ![]() which is why i suspect the daughter released it when she did. the point, apparently, was not to throw this man in jail. she's genuinely interested in having her father admit he has a problem and seek help. | ||
metbull
United States404 Posts
On November 04 2011 00:56 ElJefe wrote: Apparently the girl wasn't too worried about it since she waited years to do anything about it. If it was that traumatizing for her she could have gone to the police the next day. Also, who set up the video camera? you do know she has a younger sister that was in the same house right? you can see allison at the beginning of the video. the "beating judge" also says something to the effect, at the beginning, "get allison out of here." So a sister being worried for her other sister's welfare isn't an acceptable reason to hold off on releasing a video of this magnitude? secondly, how big where you at 16? when did you start standing up to your parents and saying, "I'm going to try to send you to jail for what you've done to me." Keep in mind that you have been physically and mentally abused. It's one thing to be "big and bad" on the internet. It is a completely different story when you are the victim of abuse. So by what i'm following, boys who are sexually abused by priests years and years ago, who haven't reported it till 10-20 years later, "apparently ....wasn't to worried about it...", at least according to you. So if you don't report it the next day, it wasn't that important of an event? So rape victims that don't report their assault aren't "to worried about it"? your words not mine. Hillary set up the camera her self. She said that, because things had been escalating with her father, she thought something like this might happen. And that people had called her a liar because they didn't believe that a judge would When you've walked a mile in someone else's shoes, then you can make a QUALIFIED statement. Until then educate yourself please. | ||
ElJefe
United States42 Posts
Oh wow, that was incredibly upsetting. And not so much because of the punishment itself, but because of the level of hate coming out from the father. It makes me ill because he appeared to be enjoying himself. He loved putting this bitch in her place, showing her who's boss. What an incredibly small, pathetic man. I don't have any real problem with physical punishment. Whatever. I'm an older dude so I had my run-ins with the big, leather belt as a young kid. It was the norm back then - hell, we even had the strap in my elementary school. But my memories of those experiences don't revolve around the punishment, but rather how I'd catch my dad afterwards and he'd have tears in his eyes - like this was the last thing in the world he'd ever want to be doing and hated doing it. That's what made me want to do better, the guilt of making someone who loves me hate themselves for having to punish his kids. That always bothered me so much more than the actual punishment. But my dad was always one hell of a guy - not like the hateful little bastard in this video. This is probably the most insightful post in the entire thread. I can relate to this as i was raised the same way. | ||
zalz
Netherlands3704 Posts
Makes me wonder just how wide-spread this stuff is. Also sad to realise that a ton of TL people will be carrying this man's torch into the next generation. | ||
ElJefe
United States42 Posts
you do know she has a younger sister that was in the same house right? I was not aware of this. secondly, how big where you at 16? when did you start standing up to your parents and saying, "I'm going to try to send you to jail for what you've done to me." Keep in mind that you have been physically and mentally abused. With this statement and the rest of the entire post you are speaking under the assumption that she had been mentally and physically abused. There is always the possibility that her father had an anger problem and aside from the times for discipline she could have lived in a completely loving household. Which would support her wanting help for her father not jail time. | ||
lundell100
Sweden232 Posts
On November 04 2011 01:02 Gracksaurusrex wrote: I hate to say it but.... I bet when this girl grows up she will succeed in life How can you possibly know that? User was warned for this post | ||
idonthinksobro
3138 Posts
On November 04 2011 00:56 ElJefe wrote: What part about anything in the video qualifies you to make that statement? Apparently the girl wasn't too worried about it since she waited years to do anything about it. If it was that traumatizing for her she could have gone to the police the next day. Also, who set up the video camera? i wonder why the 1st guy got banned for his comment. The mother says something like "be a good mormon and take your punishment". So mormons are known to have strange beliefs about technology, kinda like amish people but to a lesser extent. The fact that he could have been a religious freak makes the beating not better but it would at least explain why someone could go total retard just because his daughter downloaded some stuff. | ||
Moop
Sweden50 Posts
On November 04 2011 01:35 ElJefe wrote: This is probably the most insightful post in the entire thread. I can relate to this as i was raised the same way. You both had shitty parents, can you imagine yourself ever hitting a child? Like WHAT THE FUCK, children are the ones who are the most destroyed by being hit, both physically and mentally, and you dont have a real problem with physical punishment? | ||
lundell100
Sweden232 Posts
On November 04 2011 02:09 Moop wrote: You both had shitty parents, can you imagine yourself ever hitting a child? Like WHAT THE FUCK, children are the ones who are the most destroyed by being hit, both physically and mentally, and you dont have a real problem with physical punishment? DId you even read the post that he was quoting? " But my memories of those experiences don't revolve around the punishment, but rather how I'd catch my dad afterwards and he'd have tears in his eyes - like this was the last thing in the world he'd ever want to be doing and hated doing it. That's what made me want to do better, the guilt of making someone who loves me hate themselves for having to punish his kids." Obviously the discipline was effective. Stop being so naive. | ||
Moop
Sweden50 Posts
On November 04 2011 01:39 zalz wrote: The TL community is really quite disturbing. The ammount of outright support and semi-support for this guy beating his daughter is really insane. Makes me wonder just how wide-spread this stuff is. Also sad to realise that a ton of TL people will be carrying this man's torch into the next generation. Yes it's really sickening | ||
Moop
Sweden50 Posts
On November 04 2011 02:12 lundell100 wrote: DId you even read the post that he was quoting? " But my memories of those experiences don't revolve around the punishment, but rather how I'd catch my dad afterwards and he'd have tears in his eyes - like this was the last thing in the world he'd ever want to be doing and hated doing it. That's what made me want to do better, the guilt of making someone who loves me hate themselves for having to punish his kids." Obviously the discipline was effective. Stop being so naive. People have tears in their eyes after beating their spouse aswell, you support that too if the person that does it really really regrets it? | ||
metbull
United States404 Posts
On November 04 2011 01:39 ElJefe wrote: I was not aware of this. With this statement and the rest of the entire post you are speaking under the assumption that she had been mentally and physically abused. There is always the possibility that her father had an anger problem and aside from the times for discipline she could have lived in a completely loving household. Which would support her wanting help for her father not jail time. my "assumption" comes from her words, not mine. Today Show interview and i completely agree, she could have lived in a loving household. or what she thought "loving" was suppose to be, because the physical abuse was what she had grown to know. and that might have been part of the reason for her not to come forward. everyone's definition of "love" is different though. | ||
iokke
United States1179 Posts
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Zeddicus
United States239 Posts
On November 04 2011 01:35 ElJefe wrote: This is probably the most insightful post in the entire thread. I can relate to this as i was raised the same way. I saw this too. At one point he says "See? Did you see that? She's being disobedient!!!" as if it were like "WHOOO HOOOO I get to whack her another 10 times" and also he just couldn't stand not having a belt in his own hand when the wife had it, he had to run off and get another one. It's the pleasure this man gets that makes it truely despicable. Get this guy out of any public office, fast. | ||
Waste
Sweden84 Posts
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ninini
Sweden1204 Posts
On November 04 2011 02:04 idonthinksobro wrote: i wonder why the 1st guy got banned for his comment. The mother says something like "be a good mormon and take your punishment". So mormons are known to have strange beliefs about technology, kinda like amish people but to a lesser extent. The fact that he could have been a religious freak makes the beating not better but it would at least explain why someone could go total retard just because his daughter downloaded some stuff. She never said mormon. And what do mormons have against technology? | ||
Hertzy
Finland355 Posts
On November 04 2011 01:28 Inertia_EU wrote: What is worse is that he wont face criminal charges after authorities said that the statute of limitations for causing bodily injury to a child is five years and the incident occurred seven years ago.. ![]() Does it count from the day seven years ago, from the day five years ago when the girl reached maturity, or from the day she moved out of the house and became independent of her father? | ||
metbull
United States404 Posts
On November 04 2011 03:43 Hertzy wrote: Does it count from the day seven years ago, from the day five years ago when the girl reached maturity, or from the day she moved out of the house and became independent of her father? In the criminal courts it matters when the incident took place. So since this event took place 7 years ago, he will not be prosecuted. BUT, if there happens to be evidence of some sort that he engaged in this type of "punishment" with his youngest daughter (Allison) within the last 5 years, he'll likely be prosecuted for his acts against Allison; but not against Hillary. So now he is not only going to be investigated for this conduct against Hillary, but any conduct he's had against his daughter and ex-wife. | ||
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