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Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
November 02 2011 05:09 GMT
#401
What a ridiculous overreaction. Great fucking parenting right here. There's nothing wrong w/ it if it's a big problem, but really? It's a fucking computer game, get over yourself Adolf.
The universe created an audience for itself.
Robinsa
Profile Joined May 2009
Japan1333 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 05:23:49
November 02 2011 05:10 GMT
#402
On November 02 2011 10:31 HawaiianPig wrote:
I thought the internet had desensitized me to most things, but this is disgusting.

Thats what I felt as well. This is some of the most disturbing shit Ive ever seen.
On November 02 2011 10:37 Kimaker wrote:
While I don't agree with the reason, I see nothing wrong there with the immediate punishment. Yes (having now read the full context of her condition) that was too much. But corporal punishment overall isn't bad.

For me it was the continuation of the conversation that got me riled up. Corporal punishment is fine, I myself was raised with corporal punishment as a possibility, but the fact that he didn't let it go was a bit much for me. Honestly, everyone's going to freak out and say she should be removed from the house, but I think that's ridiculous. She got belted. Woo hoo. Getting belted hurts like a son of a bitch, but it's nothing seriously harmful.

And please don't pull the "mentally scarring" card out. It's not. I promise you.


I think its sickening that some people think its ok to beat a child. Or anyone for that matter. In many civilized countries he would have gone to jail for something like that. I belive he should have.
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hytonight
Profile Joined April 2011
303 Posts
November 02 2011 05:11 GMT
#403
On November 02 2011 14:09 OuchyDathurts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 14:02 hytonight wrote:
On November 02 2011 14:00 OuchyDathurts wrote:
On November 02 2011 13:55 hytonight wrote:
im not sure about you, but if i tried to hit my dad in the balls i would die a slow painful death....and if she made any quick moves im pretty sure he wouldve noticed in time and beat her even more


I didn't say try, I said do it over and over and over again. Unless he's a psychopath stonecold killer he's not going to stop trying to curl up in the fetal position and cupping his junk.

At some point there just has to be part of you that snaps and it becomes beyond logic and reason. It's not "if i do this he might do that" it becomes "this stops right now and I don't care what the hell happens because of what I'm about to do". It's more of an instinctual sort of thing.

i doubt any man leaves his balls open for someone to repeatedly hit them...especially when hes giving his daughter the assbeating of her life.


You normally protect your balls when you're executing a child abuse session? I guess that wouldn't be S.O.P. for me.

Even assuming you covered up like a turtle your face is wide open for a stomping. You can only defend so many things at once and feet hurt like hell.

At some point people have to stand up for themselves. They shouldn't have to because people shouldn't be assholes but the level of abuse people will put up with, whether its your dad beating you, your boyfriend cheating on you or anything in between is staggering.

It becomes beyond thought at some point.

yeah but you cant always defend yourself.....and i doubt most people will be scanning for weaknesses. actually im doubting if anyone would.
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BreakerD
Profile Joined March 2010
United States159 Posts
November 02 2011 05:12 GMT
#404
On November 02 2011 14:02 OuchyDathurts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 13:58 BreakerD wrote:
Your father's been disciplining you by whooping your butt. Your 16, and you know what happens if you disobey the your father. Gotta be smart and do what your parents say from being discipline. In the words of Dave Chappelle


That has nothing to do with someone with Palsy


Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 13:58 BreakerD wrote:People say they stood up to their dad and after that the beating stopped. What happened if your dad kicked you out the house? What would you do then?


If he kicked me out I'd have a ton of people with open arms that would have taken me in. Grandparents, aunts, uncles, friends families and family friends. If you tell someone that your parent beats the hell out of you someone is going to help you out. Not to mention my mom would have left him so fast it'd make his head spin.


Has everything to do with this situation. She did have Palsy but she wasnt mentally retarded (if she was that be a super different story). She was still aware of what was happening.

Good for you that you have people that take you in if you were ever kicked out young. But most people dont have that someone thats why there are foster homes, or they end up be prostitutes. Sometimes feeding an extra mouth is too much, and a relative cannot take you in.
LaLLsc2
Profile Joined September 2010
United States502 Posts
November 02 2011 05:12 GMT
#405
Lock him up for good and throw away the key.. I could think of 10 charges..
Live and Let Live
Bidu
Profile Joined June 2010
United States29 Posts
November 02 2011 05:13 GMT
#406
trololololololololol

anyone else find this hilarious

User was temp banned for this post.
JethroTV
Profile Joined December 2010
United States206 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 05:14:40
November 02 2011 05:13 GMT
#407
On November 02 2011 14:08 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Personally, I agree with the father.

It is him and the mother who brought the girl on the earth, and if he gives the girl rules to follow, she should listen to whatever he says until she reaches the age of 18 imo. Do I think it's the way to go about it? No - But if you made the child, you should be allowed to have the power to influence them in the way you please.


Influence? Yes

But this has nothing to do with that... This isnt an influence... its a violent action against a child. Having brought the child into this world does not give you the right break the law with respect to them, namely, assaulting them.


On November 02 2011 14:13 Bidu wrote:
trololololololololol

anyone else find this hilarious


People like you are so very... disappointing.
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Twiggs
Profile Joined January 2011
United States600 Posts
November 02 2011 05:15 GMT
#408
He's probably a drunk
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wxwx
Profile Joined May 2010
527 Posts
November 02 2011 05:17 GMT
#409
On November 02 2011 13:25 pandaBee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 13:22 matjlav wrote:
On November 02 2011 13:17 pandaBee wrote:
On November 02 2011 13:13 matjlav wrote:
On November 02 2011 13:00 pandaBee wrote:
On November 02 2011 12:56 matjlav wrote:
On November 02 2011 12:52 pandaBee wrote:
And why is a 16 yo girl getting a booty spanking a big deal? spanking is getting off easy.


Honestly it's not the physical acts that bother me as much as the whole psychology of it. The fact that he is using his daughter as a punching bag to let out his anger. This is how 6-year-olds should be dealing with anger, not grown men who are supposed to be role models for their children.


daughter breaks rules >>> daddy gets angry >>> booty spanking
i don't think there's a problem with this.


Nope, I completely disagree. There is definitely a problem with that. No one would ever suggest that it's okay for a civilized person to violently react to someone else making them angry, unless it's their child, then people seem to think that it's okay. That's fucked up. As a grown person, it is your job to ignore your instincts to start swinging your fists when you get angry.

Grown adults generally understand that they can't violently react to people who make them angry outside of their family, but shitbags like this guy do it when they're at home with their children because they know they'll get away with it and that their children are too weak to fight back. This is different from somberly spanking an 8-year-old post "this hurts you more than it hurts me." This is a coward abusing his power dynamic in the family. And there are tons of parents (including my dad) who have done this, though usually not to such an egregious extent.


Ofc there is a "Ideal" that you believe in that parents should strive for but that doesn't confine the freedoms and choices of parents just because you think so in that way.

also how do u know that he's not whipping out the belt just because he's angry? how do u know that he has no justification for doing so (i.e. breaking pre established rules) ? im not talking about the guys personal life in general im talking about the act of disciplining your child.


Just look at the guy. That is not how someone acts when they just want to discipline their child so that they will grow up to be a better person. Watching 5 seconds of the video that I randomly picked just now, he says "Bend over or I'll slap your fucking face" and then grabs his daughters face before throwing her toward the wall. That's not parenting; that's a man assaulting someone out of immature rage.

And no, assault is not a "freedom" of a parent.

(I really hope you never become a parent if you find this at all justifiable.)


In the video he was trying to make her turn over so he could slap her ass and NOT her face (obviously he did not awnt to damage her leave long lasting scars in cruelly visible areas of her body, what's wrong with that?)


Always. Always, on TL, you have "that guy" who's incapable of higher thinking yet insisting on playing devil's advocate. Honestly, how do you get something good out of "Bend over or I'll slap your fucking face"? Suddenly he's a good guy now because he doesn't scar her face even though he can? You also realize that having visible scars just means people are going to start asking questions.

We get it, you don't want to conform. Please stop embarrassing yourself.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
November 02 2011 05:18 GMT
#410
Maybe this is just from personal experience.

But I were in her place, at 16, with that happening. Given other experiences. I'm sorry to say that one person or another would not be making it out of that room alive. Good thing I wasn't in her place.

This video just disgusts me, hope something terrible happens to that judge.
legendre20
Profile Joined November 2010
United States316 Posts
November 02 2011 05:19 GMT
#411
Honestly, I opened this thread thinking I would see a bunch of Q.Q and I would end up saying that kids get punished and there were probably underlying events that led to this... but scratch that.. this is fucking disturbing. I mean hitting your child with a belt is a well known punishment.. but it's usually used as a threat, and definitely not to this extent. This is brutal. I really lost it when the mom came in and hit her too. Usually it's a good cop/bad cop drill, but when both parents... gah I can't even imagine being in her position. I think I would honestly lash out at the parents violently..

Either way this was WAY over the top. It was sickening to even watch this..
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jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 05:22:09
November 02 2011 05:20 GMT
#412
yea a little to angry i got the belt as a kid tho too when your parent gets angry they can go a little to far.

Hopefully they will work it out. My biggest hope is that he is not actually abusive. I did see the video but i would not call it real abuse per say just maybe not controlling his anger well thats my hope at least.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
November 02 2011 05:21 GMT
#413
On November 02 2011 14:11 hytonight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 14:09 OuchyDathurts wrote:
On November 02 2011 14:02 hytonight wrote:
On November 02 2011 14:00 OuchyDathurts wrote:
On November 02 2011 13:55 hytonight wrote:
im not sure about you, but if i tried to hit my dad in the balls i would die a slow painful death....and if she made any quick moves im pretty sure he wouldve noticed in time and beat her even more


I didn't say try, I said do it over and over and over again. Unless he's a psychopath stonecold killer he's not going to stop trying to curl up in the fetal position and cupping his junk.

At some point there just has to be part of you that snaps and it becomes beyond logic and reason. It's not "if i do this he might do that" it becomes "this stops right now and I don't care what the hell happens because of what I'm about to do". It's more of an instinctual sort of thing.

i doubt any man leaves his balls open for someone to repeatedly hit them...especially when hes giving his daughter the assbeating of her life.


You normally protect your balls when you're executing a child abuse session? I guess that wouldn't be S.O.P. for me.

Even assuming you covered up like a turtle your face is wide open for a stomping. You can only defend so many things at once and feet hurt like hell.

At some point people have to stand up for themselves. They shouldn't have to because people shouldn't be assholes but the level of abuse people will put up with, whether its your dad beating you, your boyfriend cheating on you or anything in between is staggering.

It becomes beyond thought at some point.

yeah but you cant always defend yourself.....and i doubt most people will be scanning for weaknesses. actually im doubting if anyone would.


You don't have to scan to find the balls. Everyone learns at a young age a hit to the area gets a certain paralyzing reaction. If it gets covered theres still plenty of super fun squishy areas to assault.

I'm telling you it doesn't become about figuring out what to do. If you ever get to that point it becomes "him or me" in your brain. Thought goes out the window and it's pure primal instinct. Now you may lose the fight at the end of the day but that's not even in the picture. The concerns of consequences aren't there. It's not like you're a pro fighter strategizing and playing chess. It's "go for the balls! Alright, now go for anything that's free! If he kills me whatever, I'm not standing for this anymore!"
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jonathan1
Profile Joined October 2010
United States395 Posts
November 02 2011 05:22 GMT
#414
i thought this sort of thing happened to most kids. i know i got belted several times as a kid.
JethroTV
Profile Joined December 2010
United States206 Posts
November 02 2011 05:24 GMT
#415
On November 02 2011 14:20 jaybrundage wrote:
yea a little to abuse i got the belt as a kid tho too when your parent gets angry they can go a little to far.

Hopefully they will work it out. My biggest hope is that he is not actually abusive. I did see the video but i would not call it abuse per say just maybe not controlling his anger well thats my hope at least.


The way he speaks in the begging, saying "go get my belt" in such a nonchalant - seems like this isnt the first time this has occurred. He's probably been repeatedly abusive to her - and probably the wife too, considering the line "take it like a grown woman." Seems like its an implication that she's learned to 'take it'.

Also, Thinking about it more .. I feel like when he literally says the phrase "So I can beat you" ... the choice of words is very telling. Not punish, not scold... not 'teach you a lesson'....beat. Quite disturbing really.
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OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
November 02 2011 05:25 GMT
#416
On November 02 2011 14:12 BreakerD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 14:02 OuchyDathurts wrote:
On November 02 2011 13:58 BreakerD wrote:
Your father's been disciplining you by whooping your butt. Your 16, and you know what happens if you disobey the your father. Gotta be smart and do what your parents say from being discipline. In the words of Dave Chappelle


That has nothing to do with someone with Palsy


On November 02 2011 13:58 BreakerD wrote:People say they stood up to their dad and after that the beating stopped. What happened if your dad kicked you out the house? What would you do then?


If he kicked me out I'd have a ton of people with open arms that would have taken me in. Grandparents, aunts, uncles, friends families and family friends. If you tell someone that your parent beats the hell out of you someone is going to help you out. Not to mention my mom would have left him so fast it'd make his head spin.


Has everything to do with this situation. She did have Palsy but she wasnt mentally retarded (if she was that be a super different story). She was still aware of what was happening.

Good for you that you have people that take you in if you were ever kicked out young. But most people dont have that someone thats why there are foster homes, or they end up be prostitutes. Sometimes feeding an extra mouth is too much, and a relative cannot take you in.


Didn't say she was but she's not a healthy individual either. If she was retarded there'd be a lynch mob at the dudes door.

I know people who left home at 16 and panned out fine. It's not the norm but if you know virtually ANYONE outside of your house they'd help. Even if you had to play musical chairs with houses for the next few years because one friend couldn't help you for more than a few days a month that'd still be better than that life.
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LF9
Profile Joined November 2009
United States537 Posts
November 02 2011 05:25 GMT
#417
Since it was recorded from a hidden location, obviously this was not an isolated incident. Reading the post everything, any reasonable person can conclude that this guy is a very abusive person, and has beaten and terrified his family into submission for quite some time. And yes, this is illegal. It's called domestic violence, and it's actually taken very seriously. It doesn't have to be the beating of a wife; legally it can be a family member, or even a roommate. This guy didn't give a 5 year old a spanking, he ASSAULTED a 16 year old girl.

That's wrong AND illegal in so many ways . . . whether it's abnormal or not is irrelevant to the legality. What he did was severe and violent. He could EASILY be charged with Domestic violence, 2nd degree assault and battery (against a minor, a serious aggravating factor), 4th degree sexual assault, child abuse, and criminal threatening. I just took an exam in a Criminal Law class on crimes against a person, and spend the past week studying penal code, oddly enough. So anyone who says what this person did isn't illegal is wrong.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
November 02 2011 05:26 GMT
#418
On November 02 2011 14:12 BreakerD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 14:02 OuchyDathurts wrote:
On November 02 2011 13:58 BreakerD wrote:
Your father's been disciplining you by whooping your butt. Your 16, and you know what happens if you disobey the your father. Gotta be smart and do what your parents say from being discipline. In the words of Dave Chappelle


That has nothing to do with someone with Palsy


On November 02 2011 13:58 BreakerD wrote:People say they stood up to their dad and after that the beating stopped. What happened if your dad kicked you out the house? What would you do then?


If he kicked me out I'd have a ton of people with open arms that would have taken me in. Grandparents, aunts, uncles, friends families and family friends. If you tell someone that your parent beats the hell out of you someone is going to help you out. Not to mention my mom would have left him so fast it'd make his head spin.


Has everything to do with this situation. She did have Palsy but she wasnt mentally retarded (if she was that be a super different story). She was still aware of what was happening.

Good for you that you have people that take you in if you were ever kicked out young. But most people dont have that someone thats why there are foster homes, or they end up be prostitutes. Sometimes feeding an extra mouth is too much, and a relative cannot take you in.


People are flexible man. There are many places you can go and many people who would take you in.
Enki
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States2548 Posts
November 02 2011 05:26 GMT
#419
Eh, at all the people saying it's not really bad, she was getting belted for minutes, all the while her parents are degrading her. Just for using the computer. I don't know how you guys feel that's appropriate given what she was doing. If you don't like your kid being on the computer all the time you take their computer away or take away the ethernet cord or something, you don't beat the shit out of your 16 year old daughter for a few minutes.
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BreakerD
Profile Joined March 2010
United States159 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 05:28:57
November 02 2011 05:26 GMT
#420
On November 02 2011 14:22 jonathan1 wrote:
i thought this sort of thing happened to most kids. i know i got belted several times as a kid.


Everyone else who complains lived the good life. Unless you got discipline like this and decided to change. Hell look at Muslim practices. They kill their daughter for not obeying. Asian kids in probably get disciplined even worse. Hell at the end of the day asians still doing the best in the world. People keep on saying she got whooped just for using the computer have to remember that this was in 2004 and using the computer was like playing ur playstation. Remember parents always got mad when you over played video games.
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