EPTOn the other hand, bullying is wrong no matter the motivation, if someone's beaten up and he's homosexual, there shouldn't be a difference than if he was a heterosexual. Being heterosexual isn't going to make those punches lighter.
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Belegorm
United States330 Posts
On the other hand, bullying is wrong no matter the motivation, if someone's beaten up and he's homosexual, there shouldn't be a difference than if he was a heterosexual. Being heterosexual isn't going to make those punches lighter. | ||
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MtlGuitarist97
United States1539 Posts
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MtlGuitarist97
United States1539 Posts
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Lylat
France8575 Posts
On October 29 2011 06:14 aRRoSC2 wrote: 88 voting no punishment, what the FUCK. Well trolls are everywhere. | ||
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bikefrog
Norway451 Posts
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Maxtor
United Kingdom273 Posts
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Belegorm
United States330 Posts
On October 29 2011 07:53 MtlGuitarist97 wrote: And Belgorm, the thing is that it WAS different. He was beat up ONLY because he was homosexual, and that makes it a hate crime. Same thing if I got angry and started beating up mexicans, or Asians, or African Americans (or Africans at that). It's wrong no matter what and if you do it because of something that someone can't control like that (race, sexuality, religion) it's considered a hate crime. What? I don't follow. It's not like people don't beat up others without a reason; certainly sometimes a motive may seem less logical than others. But the use of violence is always an illogical act. What you're really saying here is that violence against homosexuals or some other minority is worse. Yet considering that others have been bullied or beat up on for any number of reasons and some have been hurt worse I think we can separate the motive from the act. Is it really going to make the punches hurt more if he is a homosexual? It seems perfectly logical to me to separate the motive from the act; in a free society we should seek to stop unjust actions rather than unjust thoughts. Would there be an issue if the bully had only thought negatively about the victim? The issue is when someone takes action based on his thoughts and I don't think motivation should play a factor in deciding the seriousness of punishment. Should we stop to seek violence based on race, sexuality or religion? Yes of course. But we should seek to stop violence in all cases, not just those based on a particular motive. | ||
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Exempt.
United States470 Posts
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Tidus Mino
United Kingdom1108 Posts
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SChlafmann
France725 Posts
Then you'll be sure he won't do it again. | ||
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
On October 29 2011 08:16 Tidus Mino wrote: Not meaning to be unfair.. but it's not really news worthy. If you went to a normal school then you'll realise this isn't worth a post. I was bullied for being a nerd and in some cases for being white where did you go to school? that is the last reason I can imagine a european would be bullied in europe. | ||
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TanKBreaKeR
Turkey17 Posts
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joyeaux
United States169 Posts
On October 29 2011 08:11 Belegorm wrote: Should we stop to seek violence based on race, sexuality or religion? Yes of course. But we should seek to stop violence in all cases, not just those based on a particular motive. Crimes motivated by bigotry are especially pernicious, because they foster an atmosphere of fear. When you attack someone because you don't like him personally, you harm one person. When you are part of a pattern where gays are attacked for attending a particular high school, you have effectively barred gay people from attending that school safely. It's more serious then if your harm stopped at the individual you attacked and his loved ones. | ||
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snorlax
United States755 Posts
On October 28 2011 07:40 ChibiSage wrote: in my high school the victim gets expelled too As a victim of a life of bullying, I'm fine with it being an executable offense. As a former victim (middle school/early high-school was overweight ETC)someone who is now friends with a few of my bullies who have grown up since then, I hope you can change your views. People are stupid but we shouldn't kill them and you are showing a level of maturity somewhat akin too the bullies themselves in some regards by calling for this. | ||
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TheRealArtemis
687 Posts
On October 29 2011 07:51 MtlGuitarist97 wrote: Wow that's pretty horrible. I go to high school (in an all boys school at that) and the thought of nobody even doing anything is sickening. I would have kicked the living shit out of the kid if I saw someone I was friends with or even knew getting beat up because they were homosexual. That's just terrible. And suspended for 3 days? I would have sued the school if I could. My son not only got beat up, but didn't fight back and this was a hate crime. I agree, throw his ass in prison and let him get the crap kicked out of him there. Why the hell would you sue the school? Whats with you guys and sueing everything you come across. The school found 3 days enough, accept it! doesnt help anybody by sueing the school, making it loose money. And its kinda funny that you find it horrible what happened to that boy, yet you wish death and destruction upon the other kid. wanting to beat the living shit outta him. Yeaaah..no. Violence begets violence. | ||
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D10
Brazil3409 Posts
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Rafael
Venezuela182 Posts
I mean why he got to be abused just for a detail of his existence? The bully needs to be expelled for sure. | ||
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Tamehr
Canada63 Posts
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arbitrageur
Australia1202 Posts
On October 29 2011 08:11 Exempt. wrote: The kid is a kid. He hasn't fully learned ethics and morals and he isn't fully to blame. Violence also isn't solved and kids will be kids. It's out of line to treat a kid as an adult in the first place. A short suspension plus all the other crap he'll get from his parents and other authority figures will probably make him learn his lesson or open his eyes a little. You can't judge a single kid at that level when the entire culture is to blame. Take it one step at a time, this isn't a big deal. 17 years old: 3 days suspension from a place you don't want to be at anyway. 18 years old: few months prison. It's retarded. he should be required to do 50 hours community service or something at minimum. It's violent assault.. you know people die from being hit in the head like that guy did? people like you that make constant excuses make me feel really mad. Let me guess: - Victim happens to die from some brain bleeding: it's murder,put him in prison. - Victim happens to not die despite being hit in the head 10+ times: you can't judge him, he hasn't learnt morals, BLA BNLABLA. Wow. If i came and bashed you over the head like that would you be saying "it isn't a big deal"? | ||
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QuackPocketDuck
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