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Chinese Toddler Run Over, No One Helps! - Page 33
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Ryndika
1489 Posts
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dangerjoe
Denmark1866 Posts
![]() from what I read in danish newspapers the drivers have been arrested.. at least a little justice. very little ![]() | ||
Soulmate
Japan138 Posts
If someone needs help and you're not the only one witnessing the accident, you'll probably say to yourself "someone else is going to give her a hand so I don't need to jump in." The famous murder of Ketty Genoves is a good example of that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kitty_Genovese | ||
Wrongspeedy
United States1655 Posts
On October 18 2011 21:28 Ryndika wrote: Is she dead or does she still have a chance? http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/usa/china/2011-10/18/content_13924846.htm Thank god they are trying to reward the people who helped her. I hope she stays alive, I have a feeling I will never forget this. | ||
Clearout
Norway1060 Posts
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furymonkey
New Zealand1587 Posts
On October 18 2011 21:37 Wrongspeedy wrote: Thank god they are trying to reward the people who helped her. I hope she stays alive, I have a feeling I will never forget this. That is slightly outdated, Chinese source stated the old lady has forwarded monetary reward to the kid's family. Additional info from the old lady: 「我怕再有車來,抱着她跑到附近店舖追問是誰的孩子,誰知店內的人都說我為什麼多管閒事」 The old lady pretty much asked nearby shop whose kid is this? The responses from the shops were "Why are you being nosy?" This is truly fucked up. Chinese source: http://news.hk.msn.com/local/article.aspx?cp-documentid=5521321 | ||
marcesr
Germany1383 Posts
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yandere991
Australia394 Posts
On October 18 2011 21:14 supaplex wrote: I tried to find a positive in all of this and kind of did. We should not be worried about china emerging as a new powerhouse on international scene. If they are scared to risk their welfare by helping a small child they will never again wage a war of any kind. Those cowards are completely impotent which is a huge relief in regards to international politics. Don't count on it. See Kitty Genovese then see the war in Iraq. But then again it kind of fits because waging war on a country with no real means to retaliate is kind of cowardly. Anyways hopefully the backlash from this shit will cause the CCP to overturn the 06 case and finally turn the cultural and moral meltdown in the region around. I actually have hope in this because ironically even though the Chinese legal system is rather shoddy it makes overturning past terrible legal precedences much more easier if it fits to will of the government. | ||
Sina92
Sweden1303 Posts
On October 18 2011 21:37 Wrongspeedy wrote: Thank god they are trying to reward the people who helped her. I hope she stays alive, I have a feeling I will never forget this. she is dead. edit: I'm not sure about this anymore actually | ||
Sareth
Germany1008 Posts
On October 18 2011 21:44 furymonkey wrote: That is slightly outdated, Chinese source stated the old lady has forwarded monetary reward to the kid's family. Additional info from the old lady: 「我怕再有車來,抱着她跑到附近店舖追問是誰的孩子,誰知店內的人都說我為什麼多管閒事」 The old lady pretty much asked nearby shop whose kid is this? The responses from the shops were "Why are you being nosy?" This is truly fucked up. Chinese source: http://news.hk.msn.com/local/article.aspx?cp-documentid=5521321 Wait, the OP sais, that the Child died, but the article sais, that she is alive, what is true? I wish her and her family good luck | ||
Wrongspeedy
United States1655 Posts
On October 18 2011 21:53 Sareth wrote: Wait, the OP sais, that the Child died, but the article sais, that she is alive, what is true? I wish her and her family good luck I think the OP is the most updated but I don't think they linked the new info. | ||
Cambium
United States16368 Posts
![]() Now, onto my rant. Reading this thread made me so angry at work, so here's a breakdown why: 1. The government/legal system fucking sucks. It's not the citizens' fault for not helping (assuming we aren't talking about the bystander effect here), because they have been repeatedly suggested not to offer help. Every time I take a vacation to China, the first thing my immediate family members tell me is not to help random people on the street, because it could be a scam or I could get shafted. Every. Single. Fucking. Time. Repeatedly. It's hard to take action when everyone around you tells you otherwise. 2. Get off your high horses. Unless you've lived in China, don't take the simplistic and altruistic view. Life in China is drastically different from a developed country. Things aren't as black and white; in fact, things aren't black and white anywhere in the world. So before bashing the people for not helping and generalize your idiotic view upon the entire Chinese population, think about this: An average Chinese person works hard all his life to get to where he is, by hard, I mean HARD. a. Those with a good education work their asses off in high school to get into a good school, then continue to work their asses off to get a decent job hoping that possibly, twenty years down the line, they can possibly own their first home. Or, b. Someone without an education, working under harsh conditions for a meagerly wage just so that they could put food on the table and roof over their head, and focus their entire life on their Children so that they could be category a. The difficulty of life is not something that can be fathomed by someone from a developed country, where you can go to movies, drink coffees, drive a car and buy a home without ever having to work hard for it. Alluding to Mad Men, think about this: drinking iced water is STILL a fucking luxury in most parts of the world. Now, regardless which group the Chinese person belongs, do you really expect him to risk everything he's ever worked for just to save a random stranger's life? It's not just about money we are talking about here, it's the futures of THREE generations: His own future, his child's futures, his parents' expectations and futures. And to those of you who say any life >> money, take a flight outside of your home country where your government presumably takes good care of the poor. Spend your money, take a flight to any third world country, and hand out your savings to any number of needy children. I guarantee you that there are enough needy children to go around. | ||
furymonkey
New Zealand1587 Posts
http://news.sina.com.hk/news/9/1/1/2466380/1.html She is improving but still in dangerous condition. | ||
Blasterion
China10272 Posts
On October 18 2011 21:56 furymonkey wrote: Chinese new source from 6 hours ago http://news.sina.com.hk/news/9/1/1/2466380/1.html She is improving but still in dangerous condition. Interesting story here http://www.wenxuecity.com/news/2011/10/18/1501458.html Seems like the true culprit is still at large, and paid someone to confess for him and do time in his place, Chinese readers, welcome to read | ||
Blasterion
China10272 Posts
On October 18 2011 21:54 Wrongspeedy wrote: I think the OP is the most updated but I don't think they linked the new info. The vitals of the girl are stabilizing, though she's still on alot of life support | ||
Archers_bane
United States1338 Posts
But some said they were just rumors, Shanghaiist, and other recent sources as well. But thank God she is still alive | ||
furymonkey
New Zealand1587 Posts
On October 18 2011 21:57 Blasterion wrote: Interesting story here http://www.wenxuecity.com/news/2011/10/18/1501458.html Seems like the true culprit is still at large, and paid someone to confess for him and do time in his place, Chinese readers, welcome to read From many source including the one you linked suggested that the man on the phone is a real life troll, and not a funny one that is. Police already started investigation into that man as well. | ||
Blasterion
China10272 Posts
On October 18 2011 22:07 furymonkey wrote: From many source including the one you linked suggested that the man on the phone is a real life troll, and not a funny one that is. Police already started investigation into that man as well. That would be possible too, just throwing pieces of information for people to digest | ||
Elroi
Sweden5587 Posts
On October 18 2011 21:55 Cambium wrote: I'm glad that she's okay and the person who helped got a good reward ![]() Now, onto my rant. Reading this thread made me so angry at work, so here's a breakdown why: 1. The government/legal system fucking sucks. It's not the citizens' fault for not helping (assuming we aren't talking about the bystander effect here), because they have been repeatedly suggested not to offer help. Every time I take a vacation to China, the first thing my immediate family members tell me is not to help random people on the street, because it could be a scam or I could get shafted. Every. Single. Fucking. Time. Repeatedly. It's hard to take action when everyone around you tells you otherwise. 2. Get off your high horses. Unless you've lived in China, don't take the simplistic and altruistic view. Life in China is drastically different from a developed country. Things aren't as black and white; in fact, things aren't black and white anywhere in the world. So before bashing the people for not helping and generalize your idiotic view upon the entire Chinese population, think about this: An average Chinese person works hard all his life to get to where he is, by hard, I mean HARD. a. Those with a good education work their asses off in high school to get into a good school, then continue to work their asses off to get a decent job hoping that possibly, twenty years down the line, they can possibly own their first home. Or, b. Someone without an education, working under harsh conditions for a meagerly wage just so that they could put food on the table and roof over their head, and focus their entire life on their Children so that they could be category a. The difficulty of life is not something that can be fathomed by someone from a developed country, where you can go to movies, drink coffees, drive a car and buy a home without ever having to work hard for it. Alluding to Mad Men, think about this: drinking iced water is STILL a fucking luxury in most parts of the world. Now, regardless which group the Chinese person belongs, do you really expect him to risk everything he's ever worked for just to save a random stranger's life? It's not just about money we are talking about here, it's the futures of THREE generations: His own future, his child's futures, his parents' expectations and futures. And to those of you who say any life >> money, take a flight outside of your home country where your government presumably takes good care of the poor. Spend your money, take a flight to any third world country, and hand out your savings to any number of needy children. I guarantee you that there are enough needy children to go around. Of course it is always a bad thing to generalize and talk about countries because you can always find extremely disgusting things in all countries. If it is because of the culture that people behave the way they do in the video, that is still deplorable. A civilized human being does not under any circumstances neglect helping that child. That is just not possible. If it is because of the system, that only means that the system makes these people inhuman. | ||
bara
Germany150 Posts
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