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On October 18 2011 14:07 pyrogenetix wrote:
Yeah heard about it.
Being chinese and living in Shanghai you hear about these things all the time. It started with this guy helping an old lady then getting counter owned.
However, such cases are rampant in the world. I've heard people tell you to yell FIRE instead of HELP because people will help put a fire out but not help others. Was another video of a guy pretending to be ill lying facedown in the busiest street in Stockholm yet no one came to help in 20min.
I think it's just that we as humans will risk asses the situation based on how much we have to lose. Some people just have a lot to lose or they just think they have nothing to gain from helping a fellow species.
It's basically how the world has always worked.
I don't know about that. I remember one day I was walking outside sick and some random strangers asked me if I needed some help. I didn't say a single word, just some random person was kind enough to ask me if they could help. I told them I'm ok even though I threw up again like 5 minutes after.
I guess it just depends on the type of person too.
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For those of you thinking that its a Chinese culture thing, you need to realize that it is NOT "the Chinese culture".
That is what will happen in a country when a party has full power and successfully remove 4000 years of moral value. It can happen in any country if you give so much power to one person (Mao) or one party and let him shape a country in his way. It is very easy to destroy trust compare to how hard and how long it takes to build it. This is a society where you are trained NOT to trust anyone. (For Americans, the cultural revolution is like the communist witch hunt back in the cold war but 100 times worse.)
There is no fxxking way China is like that in the past thousands of years while inventing/building so many wonderful things; I refuse to believe that. Chinese are also very sad to see what China have become now, how can you be proud of your nation when your people treat life like this? I do not really care how many olympics and world expo they host, they do not even get the basics right!
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People have their own lives and families to worry about, and if a legal precedent has been set so that good samaritans are not protected, then it is completely irrational to help out an injured person, so long as you value the life and livelihood of yourself and your family even slightly more than that of the average injured person you may find on the street.
As other people have said before, I wouldn't blame the passersby, I would blame the judge.
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this is like every man for himself .. every dying run over toddler for himself
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Seriously? 
A child.
A little Baby.
And nobody even tries to help?
I dont want to believe this is for real...
RIP.
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I'm really depressed on most of the comments here in this thread  an innocent child dies 'brutally' and they try to reason out that "that's how it is in that country" and other BS Crap, some guys here really disgusts me
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On October 18 2011 10:25 Galaxy77 wrote:
Disgusting. Life is sacred regardless of who you are or where you are in the world.
Well spoken. When a nation has forgotten the value of a human being, it has gone too far.
RIP
However props to Blasterion & synapse for trying to explain the situation in China. It's not an easy task but it think its important to have that voice too, otherwise there would be an enormous amount of hatred towards china and the chinese people when it should be pointed at the politicians.
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RIP Yue Yue. I hope the publicity of the incident causes some reform/awareness in China
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On October 18 2011 19:16 Gummy wrote:
People have their own lives and families to worry about, and if a legal precedent has been set so that good samaritans are not protected, then it is completely irrational to help out an injured person, so long as you value the life and livelihood of yourself and your family even slightly more than that of the average injured person you may find on the street.
As other people have said before, I wouldn't blame the passersby, I would blame the judge.
This. Helping other people is a huge risk these days. Everyone is out to sue everyone and sadly alot of those stupid lawsuits end up with the good guy losing.
So why help.
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On October 18 2011 19:55 Orcasgt24 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2011 19:16 Gummy wrote:
People have their own lives and families to worry about, and if a legal precedent has been set so that good samaritans are not protected, then it is completely irrational to help out an injured person, so long as you value the life and livelihood of yourself and your family even slightly more than that of the average injured person you may find on the street.
As other people have said before, I wouldn't blame the passersby, I would blame the judge. This. Helping other people is a huge risk these days. Everyone is out to sue everyone and sadly alot of those stupid lawsuits end up with the good guy losing. So why help.
This actually is not true at all. This fiction that there are thousands upon thousands of these lawsuits is not true in any way, let alone that people are rolling in cash for trivial lawsuits.
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On October 18 2011 19:55 Orcasgt24 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2011 19:16 Gummy wrote:
People have their own lives and families to worry about, and if a legal precedent has been set so that good samaritans are not protected, then it is completely irrational to help out an injured person, so long as you value the life and livelihood of yourself and your family even slightly more than that of the average injured person you may find on the street.
As other people have said before, I wouldn't blame the passersby, I would blame the judge. This. Helping other people is a huge risk these days. Everyone is out to sue everyone and sadly alot of those stupid lawsuits end up with the good guy losing. So why help.
I dunno how that situation ever created itself in Canada then, but in The Netherlands it's a crime if you see someone on the streets that is injured/needs urgent help and you ignore him.
You can go to jail for not helping that person, simple as that.
Maybe it's just mentality, but we laugh about the sueing system in America, it just doesn't happen here.
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On October 18 2011 17:21 BatesC wrote:Wow no one is talking about the demon that just randomly picked up the child? Look at the face and legs of the girl at around 3:08 + Show Spoiler +speculation has it that that's the child from the future (the legs aren't visible and its face is destroyed)... creepy stuff
What demon, there was an old lady (who sells goods found in garbage for a living) that help the child. The old lady got rewarded in the end by government officials but she turned around and donated everything to the family of the child.
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i'm a Chinese, it's really complex to the people helpless.
about 2 years ago, a good man named PengYu in NanJing City, he help a women stand up from a traffic accident, but the women send the guy to the court, Althouth no evidence prove the truth, but PengYu was judged pay 45,876 Yuan to the women. This case known by every Chinese,and hurt a lot of good people. After this case, some people in China afraid to help whom trouble in accident,faint on street etc. When some one hlep people, they have to think about if they will drop in the trap, or judge by a stupid official
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The child have not die, but almost die, only 1% chance to live...
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Like they wrote in the description:
"previous extortion attempts from the injured and their families who have sometimes tried to blame the person helping."
Truly the passerby's were just trying to avoid problems
However.. the first driver who ran the girl over.. and just continued to drive, seriously.. doesn't matter what job you have to do or what your next destination is, couldn't you just pull over for a minute to set the girl aside and call the ambulance
Your at fault already, why run and make the problem worse
Although I would say the main offender would be the child's parents, her mother wasn't responsible enough to leave the child somewhere safe, instead the child ends up 100m away from home.
Sounds weird to say but her mother is the reason why her daughter was there in a busy market, she should be more responsible to prevent this.
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On October 18 2011 20:22 EricFartman wrote:
i'm a Chinese, it's really complex to the people helpless.
about 2 years ago, a good man named PengYu in NanJing City, he help a women stand up from a traffic accident, but the women send the guy to the court, Althouth no evidence prove the truth, but PengYu was judged pay 45,876 Yuan to the women. This case known by every Chinese,and hurt a lot of good people. After this case, some people in China afraid to help whom trouble in accident,faint on street etc. When some one hlep people, they have to think about if they will drop in the trap, or judge by a stupid official
That case is so tragic. Many Chinese do good deeds everyday. But if someone gets punished for doing something good even once people will remember it. Humans just remember bad things better I guess.
I hope this wakes the government up, it's time to change so people can help others without being afraid of a lawsuit.
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What the fuck did I just watch??
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I'm ashamed that a single judgement can cause this much cultural-moral crisis. The instict to help, to save falls into fight/flight response. I'll do my best to put this behind me like the good samaritans in the wiki-L chopper video.. just mind numbing
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On October 18 2011 20:28 sukarestu wrote:
Like they wrote in the description:
"previous extortion attempts from the injured and their families who have sometimes tried to blame the person helping."
Truly the passerby's were just trying to avoid problems
However.. the first driver who ran the girl over.. and just continued to drive, seriously.. doesn't matter what job you have to do or what your next destination is, couldn't you just pull over for a minute to set the girl aside and call the ambulance
Your at fault already, why run and make the problem worse
Although I would say the main offender would be the child's parents, her mother wasn't responsible enough to leave the child somewhere safe, instead the child ends up 100m away from home.
Sounds weird to say but her mother is the reason why her daughter was there in a busy market, she should be more responsible to prevent this.
One of the main problems is the ammount of hours those people work many of them work 18 hours and then still have to care for their children/spouses before they can go to sleep. When I was beijing I saw alot of drivers driving on complete on auto pilot. For example We stood outside of a shop and a guy in the van drove so close to me he actually crushed my shoe and ripped off a big chunk of my pants. It was pure luck that he caught the shoe first and that I was wearing lose fitting ones so I could pull it lose . When my chinese friend/guide stormed up to him asking him what the hell he was doing he had 0 clue what had happened.
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