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We are extremely close to shutting down this thread for the same reasons the PUA thread was shut down. While some of the time this thread contains actual discussion with people asking help and people giving nice advice, it often gets derailed by rubbish that should not be here. The moderation team will be trying to steer this thread in a different direction from now on.

Posts of the following nature are banned:
1) ANYTHING regarding PUA. If your post contains the words 'alpha' or 'beta' or anything of that sort please don't hit post.
2) Stupid brags. You can tell us about your nice success stories with someone, but posts such as 'lol 50 Tinder matches' are a no-no.
3) Any misogynistic bullshit, including discussion about rape culture.
4) One night stands and random sex. These are basically brags that invariably devolve into gender role discussions and misogynistic comments.

Last chance, guys. This thread is for dating advice and sharing dating stories. While gender roles, sociocultural norms, and our biological imperative to reproduce are all tangentially related, these subjects are not the main purpose of the thread. Please AVOID these discussions. If you want to discuss them at length, go to PMs or start a blog. If you disagree with someone's ideologies, state that you disagree with them and why they won't work from a dating standpoint and move on. We will not tolerate any lengthy derailments that aren't directly about dating.
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5711 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-29 04:55:37
January 29 2013 04:54 GMT
#1861
On January 29 2013 13:50 BlazeFury01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 13:46 Zooper31 wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:46 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:40 farvacola wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:07 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On October 09 2011 15:47 Mr. Nefarious wrote:
Unfortunately, most of the better looking girls are extremely selfish and vain. Drop these girls, looks are only fun for the first month. Find the girl you find attractive emotionally as well as physically, despite what other people might say or think about her.


Actually they're not bro. If you have muscles, money and are good looking, it's not hard at all lol

If you aren't so good looking, then the only advice I can give you is to try to make yourself as good looking as possible. Get some muscle (a 6 pack absolutely makes a girl melt because very few guys have it) straight white teeth for a nice smile, naturally looking colored contacts if you don't have attractive eyes. Always stay well groomed with a nice edge up on the goatee or hair line. Pressed pants with the crease in the middle and starched shirts. Show off your muscles as much as you can because this really does grab a girls attention. If your pale, tan. If you have bad acne wear a little bit of make up powder to reduce the redness (not too much because then she'll know). Nice jewelry is also an eye grabber too. Like a nice watch and bracelet. Always make sure your body language shows nothing but confidence and make sure your tone of voice is always sexy, suave and smooth. Make sure your words are enticing and your vocabulary is top notch. Stay up to date on the news too and into the latest celebrity gossip. This will always give you something to talk about with your girl because chances are she'll be into all this. Just some tips from me

However, I do advise getting to know the girl as deep as you can before engaging in sexual intercourse or even kissing her for that matter, regardless of how desperate you get.

This video is a good example why:

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhmTaktRx93s7ec2QP

I'm saving it for Mr. Right...Get outta here! I mean, I even have met some really hot hunnies that do exactly what she does. Don't be fooled! Hell, Kim Kardashian is a good example of that.

Or you could do none of those things, become comfortable in your own skin, and find a girl who digs that. It really isn't that hard, confidence doesn't need a tan or makeup.


No but the physical attraction to get the girls attention in the first place does. Confidence can't replace ugliness lol


You just have to be an average guy and not be like hideous, attitude and personality does the rest.


Sometimes it does, it depends on her situation though. But if you're an average guy who's to say that a guy who's above average wouldn't take your girl? Just saying.


You have a misguided view on girls all I can say. Poster above me laid it out pretty well. Now that I think about it you linked worldstarhiphop earlier, that kinda explains everything.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
January 29 2013 04:54 GMT
#1862
On January 29 2013 13:50 BlazeFury01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 13:46 Zooper31 wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:46 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:40 farvacola wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:07 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On October 09 2011 15:47 Mr. Nefarious wrote:
Unfortunately, most of the better looking girls are extremely selfish and vain. Drop these girls, looks are only fun for the first month. Find the girl you find attractive emotionally as well as physically, despite what other people might say or think about her.


Actually they're not bro. If you have muscles, money and are good looking, it's not hard at all lol

If you aren't so good looking, then the only advice I can give you is to try to make yourself as good looking as possible. Get some muscle (a 6 pack absolutely makes a girl melt because very few guys have it) straight white teeth for a nice smile, naturally looking colored contacts if you don't have attractive eyes. Always stay well groomed with a nice edge up on the goatee or hair line. Pressed pants with the crease in the middle and starched shirts. Show off your muscles as much as you can because this really does grab a girls attention. If your pale, tan. If you have bad acne wear a little bit of make up powder to reduce the redness (not too much because then she'll know). Nice jewelry is also an eye grabber too. Like a nice watch and bracelet. Always make sure your body language shows nothing but confidence and make sure your tone of voice is always sexy, suave and smooth. Make sure your words are enticing and your vocabulary is top notch. Stay up to date on the news too and into the latest celebrity gossip. This will always give you something to talk about with your girl because chances are she'll be into all this. Just some tips from me

However, I do advise getting to know the girl as deep as you can before engaging in sexual intercourse or even kissing her for that matter, regardless of how desperate you get.

This video is a good example why:

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhmTaktRx93s7ec2QP

I'm saving it for Mr. Right...Get outta here! I mean, I even have met some really hot hunnies that do exactly what she does. Don't be fooled! Hell, Kim Kardashian is a good example of that.

Or you could do none of those things, become comfortable in your own skin, and find a girl who digs that. It really isn't that hard, confidence doesn't need a tan or makeup.


No but the physical attraction to get the girls attention in the first place does. Confidence can't replace ugliness lol


You just have to be an average guy and not be like hideous, attitude and personality does the rest.


Sometimes it does, it depends on her situation though. But if you're an average guy who's to say that a guy who's above average wouldn't take your girl? Just saying.

That the "above average" guy is most likely not anywhere close to the brains or experience an "average guy" can develop when it comes to dating women. Obviously it never hurts to have both, but relying on looks over actual social skills is asking to get your butt kicked if someone who knows what he's doing shows up.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
BlazeFury01
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1460 Posts
January 29 2013 04:54 GMT
#1863
On January 29 2013 13:52 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 13:50 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:46 Zooper31 wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:46 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:40 farvacola wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:07 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On October 09 2011 15:47 Mr. Nefarious wrote:
Unfortunately, most of the better looking girls are extremely selfish and vain. Drop these girls, looks are only fun for the first month. Find the girl you find attractive emotionally as well as physically, despite what other people might say or think about her.


Actually they're not bro. If you have muscles, money and are good looking, it's not hard at all lol

If you aren't so good looking, then the only advice I can give you is to try to make yourself as good looking as possible. Get some muscle (a 6 pack absolutely makes a girl melt because very few guys have it) straight white teeth for a nice smile, naturally looking colored contacts if you don't have attractive eyes. Always stay well groomed with a nice edge up on the goatee or hair line. Pressed pants with the crease in the middle and starched shirts. Show off your muscles as much as you can because this really does grab a girls attention. If your pale, tan. If you have bad acne wear a little bit of make up powder to reduce the redness (not too much because then she'll know). Nice jewelry is also an eye grabber too. Like a nice watch and bracelet. Always make sure your body language shows nothing but confidence and make sure your tone of voice is always sexy, suave and smooth. Make sure your words are enticing and your vocabulary is top notch. Stay up to date on the news too and into the latest celebrity gossip. This will always give you something to talk about with your girl because chances are she'll be into all this. Just some tips from me

However, I do advise getting to know the girl as deep as you can before engaging in sexual intercourse or even kissing her for that matter, regardless of how desperate you get.

This video is a good example why:

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhmTaktRx93s7ec2QP

I'm saving it for Mr. Right...Get outta here! I mean, I even have met some really hot hunnies that do exactly what she does. Don't be fooled! Hell, Kim Kardashian is a good example of that.

Or you could do none of those things, become comfortable in your own skin, and find a girl who digs that. It really isn't that hard, confidence doesn't need a tan or makeup.


No but the physical attraction to get the girls attention in the first place does. Confidence can't replace ugliness lol


You just have to be an average guy and not be like hideous, attitude and personality does the rest.


Sometimes it does, it depends on her situation though. But if you're an average guy who's to say that a guy who's above average wouldn't take your girl? Just saying.

If she's your girl, nobody is taking her. If someone takes her, clearly wasn't your girl. Make her your girl and she won't give a shit about anyone else. If she's just waiting for someone better to come along then you've fucked up somewhere.


lol no doubt. But sometimes you don't even have to fuck up for her to be waiting for somebody better. It's just something that happens sometimes.
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
January 29 2013 04:55 GMT
#1864
On January 29 2013 13:50 BlazeFury01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 13:46 Zooper31 wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:46 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:40 farvacola wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:07 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On October 09 2011 15:47 Mr. Nefarious wrote:
Unfortunately, most of the better looking girls are extremely selfish and vain. Drop these girls, looks are only fun for the first month. Find the girl you find attractive emotionally as well as physically, despite what other people might say or think about her.


Actually they're not bro. If you have muscles, money and are good looking, it's not hard at all lol

If you aren't so good looking, then the only advice I can give you is to try to make yourself as good looking as possible. Get some muscle (a 6 pack absolutely makes a girl melt because very few guys have it) straight white teeth for a nice smile, naturally looking colored contacts if you don't have attractive eyes. Always stay well groomed with a nice edge up on the goatee or hair line. Pressed pants with the crease in the middle and starched shirts. Show off your muscles as much as you can because this really does grab a girls attention. If your pale, tan. If you have bad acne wear a little bit of make up powder to reduce the redness (not too much because then she'll know). Nice jewelry is also an eye grabber too. Like a nice watch and bracelet. Always make sure your body language shows nothing but confidence and make sure your tone of voice is always sexy, suave and smooth. Make sure your words are enticing and your vocabulary is top notch. Stay up to date on the news too and into the latest celebrity gossip. This will always give you something to talk about with your girl because chances are she'll be into all this. Just some tips from me

However, I do advise getting to know the girl as deep as you can before engaging in sexual intercourse or even kissing her for that matter, regardless of how desperate you get.

This video is a good example why:

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhmTaktRx93s7ec2QP

I'm saving it for Mr. Right...Get outta here! I mean, I even have met some really hot hunnies that do exactly what she does. Don't be fooled! Hell, Kim Kardashian is a good example of that.

Or you could do none of those things, become comfortable in your own skin, and find a girl who digs that. It really isn't that hard, confidence doesn't need a tan or makeup.


No but the physical attraction to get the girls attention in the first place does. Confidence can't replace ugliness lol


You just have to be an average guy and not be like hideous, attitude and personality does the rest.


Sometimes it does, it depends on her situation though. But if you're an average guy who's to say that a guy who's above average wouldn't take your girl? Just saying.

Because not every girl is a superficial pig?
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5711 Posts
January 29 2013 04:56 GMT
#1865
On January 29 2013 13:54 BlazeFury01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 13:52 KwarK wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:50 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:46 Zooper31 wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:46 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:40 farvacola wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:07 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On October 09 2011 15:47 Mr. Nefarious wrote:
Unfortunately, most of the better looking girls are extremely selfish and vain. Drop these girls, looks are only fun for the first month. Find the girl you find attractive emotionally as well as physically, despite what other people might say or think about her.


Actually they're not bro. If you have muscles, money and are good looking, it's not hard at all lol

If you aren't so good looking, then the only advice I can give you is to try to make yourself as good looking as possible. Get some muscle (a 6 pack absolutely makes a girl melt because very few guys have it) straight white teeth for a nice smile, naturally looking colored contacts if you don't have attractive eyes. Always stay well groomed with a nice edge up on the goatee or hair line. Pressed pants with the crease in the middle and starched shirts. Show off your muscles as much as you can because this really does grab a girls attention. If your pale, tan. If you have bad acne wear a little bit of make up powder to reduce the redness (not too much because then she'll know). Nice jewelry is also an eye grabber too. Like a nice watch and bracelet. Always make sure your body language shows nothing but confidence and make sure your tone of voice is always sexy, suave and smooth. Make sure your words are enticing and your vocabulary is top notch. Stay up to date on the news too and into the latest celebrity gossip. This will always give you something to talk about with your girl because chances are she'll be into all this. Just some tips from me

However, I do advise getting to know the girl as deep as you can before engaging in sexual intercourse or even kissing her for that matter, regardless of how desperate you get.

This video is a good example why:

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhmTaktRx93s7ec2QP

I'm saving it for Mr. Right...Get outta here! I mean, I even have met some really hot hunnies that do exactly what she does. Don't be fooled! Hell, Kim Kardashian is a good example of that.

Or you could do none of those things, become comfortable in your own skin, and find a girl who digs that. It really isn't that hard, confidence doesn't need a tan or makeup.


No but the physical attraction to get the girls attention in the first place does. Confidence can't replace ugliness lol


You just have to be an average guy and not be like hideous, attitude and personality does the rest.


Sometimes it does, it depends on her situation though. But if you're an average guy who's to say that a guy who's above average wouldn't take your girl? Just saying.

If she's your girl, nobody is taking her. If someone takes her, clearly wasn't your girl. Make her your girl and she won't give a shit about anyone else. If she's just waiting for someone better to come along then you've fucked up somewhere.


lol no doubt. But sometimes you don't even have to fuck up for her to be waiting for somebody better. It's just something that happens sometimes.


Then she was never your girl. She was using you basically. It seems you think girls are just looking for hunks of meat and will switch out whenever a better looking stalion comes along.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
BlazeFury01
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1460 Posts
January 29 2013 04:57 GMT
#1866
On January 29 2013 13:54 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 13:50 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:46 Zooper31 wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:46 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:40 farvacola wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:07 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On October 09 2011 15:47 Mr. Nefarious wrote:
Unfortunately, most of the better looking girls are extremely selfish and vain. Drop these girls, looks are only fun for the first month. Find the girl you find attractive emotionally as well as physically, despite what other people might say or think about her.


Actually they're not bro. If you have muscles, money and are good looking, it's not hard at all lol

If you aren't so good looking, then the only advice I can give you is to try to make yourself as good looking as possible. Get some muscle (a 6 pack absolutely makes a girl melt because very few guys have it) straight white teeth for a nice smile, naturally looking colored contacts if you don't have attractive eyes. Always stay well groomed with a nice edge up on the goatee or hair line. Pressed pants with the crease in the middle and starched shirts. Show off your muscles as much as you can because this really does grab a girls attention. If your pale, tan. If you have bad acne wear a little bit of make up powder to reduce the redness (not too much because then she'll know). Nice jewelry is also an eye grabber too. Like a nice watch and bracelet. Always make sure your body language shows nothing but confidence and make sure your tone of voice is always sexy, suave and smooth. Make sure your words are enticing and your vocabulary is top notch. Stay up to date on the news too and into the latest celebrity gossip. This will always give you something to talk about with your girl because chances are she'll be into all this. Just some tips from me

However, I do advise getting to know the girl as deep as you can before engaging in sexual intercourse or even kissing her for that matter, regardless of how desperate you get.

This video is a good example why:

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhmTaktRx93s7ec2QP

I'm saving it for Mr. Right...Get outta here! I mean, I even have met some really hot hunnies that do exactly what she does. Don't be fooled! Hell, Kim Kardashian is a good example of that.

Or you could do none of those things, become comfortable in your own skin, and find a girl who digs that. It really isn't that hard, confidence doesn't need a tan or makeup.


No but the physical attraction to get the girls attention in the first place does. Confidence can't replace ugliness lol


You just have to be an average guy and not be like hideous, attitude and personality does the rest.


Sometimes it does, it depends on her situation though. But if you're an average guy who's to say that a guy who's above average wouldn't take your girl? Just saying.

That the "above average" guy is most likely not anywhere close to the brains or experience an "average guy" can develop when it comes to dating women. Obviously it never hurts to have both, but relying on looks over actual social skills is asking to get your butt kicked if someone who knows what he's doing shows up.


I wasn't describing just looks, I was talking about looks with brains vs somebody who's average. Who would the girl rather be with in this case? The bolded section describes this particular situation well. But yeah, good loyal girls are out there. They're just few and far in between these days.
BlazeFury01
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1460 Posts
January 29 2013 04:59 GMT
#1867
On January 29 2013 13:56 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 13:54 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:52 KwarK wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:50 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:46 Zooper31 wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:46 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:40 farvacola wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:07 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On October 09 2011 15:47 Mr. Nefarious wrote:
Unfortunately, most of the better looking girls are extremely selfish and vain. Drop these girls, looks are only fun for the first month. Find the girl you find attractive emotionally as well as physically, despite what other people might say or think about her.


Actually they're not bro. If you have muscles, money and are good looking, it's not hard at all lol

If you aren't so good looking, then the only advice I can give you is to try to make yourself as good looking as possible. Get some muscle (a 6 pack absolutely makes a girl melt because very few guys have it) straight white teeth for a nice smile, naturally looking colored contacts if you don't have attractive eyes. Always stay well groomed with a nice edge up on the goatee or hair line. Pressed pants with the crease in the middle and starched shirts. Show off your muscles as much as you can because this really does grab a girls attention. If your pale, tan. If you have bad acne wear a little bit of make up powder to reduce the redness (not too much because then she'll know). Nice jewelry is also an eye grabber too. Like a nice watch and bracelet. Always make sure your body language shows nothing but confidence and make sure your tone of voice is always sexy, suave and smooth. Make sure your words are enticing and your vocabulary is top notch. Stay up to date on the news too and into the latest celebrity gossip. This will always give you something to talk about with your girl because chances are she'll be into all this. Just some tips from me

However, I do advise getting to know the girl as deep as you can before engaging in sexual intercourse or even kissing her for that matter, regardless of how desperate you get.

This video is a good example why:

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhmTaktRx93s7ec2QP

I'm saving it for Mr. Right...Get outta here! I mean, I even have met some really hot hunnies that do exactly what she does. Don't be fooled! Hell, Kim Kardashian is a good example of that.

Or you could do none of those things, become comfortable in your own skin, and find a girl who digs that. It really isn't that hard, confidence doesn't need a tan or makeup.


No but the physical attraction to get the girls attention in the first place does. Confidence can't replace ugliness lol


You just have to be an average guy and not be like hideous, attitude and personality does the rest.


Sometimes it does, it depends on her situation though. But if you're an average guy who's to say that a guy who's above average wouldn't take your girl? Just saying.

If she's your girl, nobody is taking her. If someone takes her, clearly wasn't your girl. Make her your girl and she won't give a shit about anyone else. If she's just waiting for someone better to come along then you've fucked up somewhere.


lol no doubt. But sometimes you don't even have to fuck up for her to be waiting for somebody better. It's just something that happens sometimes.


Then she was never your girl. She was using you basically. It seems you think girls are just looking for hunks of meat and will switch out whenever a better looking stalion comes along.


Not necessarily. I was describing what generally attracts a girl in the first place. But that hunks of meat is an eye grabber for women without the man having to say a word.
Suppressed
Profile Joined August 2011
11 Posts
January 29 2013 04:59 GMT
#1868
I'm 30, with very average looks and very average job. Basically i'm your "Average Joe". I'm single and have girlfriends in the past. I've recently dated someone but it just didn't work out for us. I find her interesting and i'm pretty sure its mutual. We even travelled together and dated multiple times. There were times we enjoyed each other's company but also times when we have quarrels that nobody is willing to give in. I could understand the fact that men and women are two different species and gentlemen should always (probably) give in even under the most ridiculous circumstance.

Example: During our travel in a foreign country, she insist direction A leads to place X. I look at the map she is holding and told her pretty gentlely but confidently that i do not think so. She questions me that i don't trust her. So i said ok "I trust you". And for the next 45 mins, we walk down direction A and stops only when we reach a dead end and she went speechless. I suggest to her: "follow me now, ok?". She went on a rampage and even nearly cried like i just bullied her or something. I've never said any of the above in any demanding or commanding tone and instead went as gentle as i could. In the end, i had to apologize (seriously i have no idea what i'm apologizing for) to stop her rampage. LOL?

But here is the issue i'm having a hard time convincing to myself: Is this shit really worth it? If yes, what can i do to change my mindset about it... or are there ways to go around it.

How many bros out there has been through such issues and come out of it?
Gaylords.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-29 05:00:43
January 29 2013 04:59 GMT
#1869
On January 29 2013 13:57 BlazeFury01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 13:54 r.Evo wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:50 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:46 Zooper31 wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:46 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:40 farvacola wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:07 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On October 09 2011 15:47 Mr. Nefarious wrote:
Unfortunately, most of the better looking girls are extremely selfish and vain. Drop these girls, looks are only fun for the first month. Find the girl you find attractive emotionally as well as physically, despite what other people might say or think about her.


Actually they're not bro. If you have muscles, money and are good looking, it's not hard at all lol

If you aren't so good looking, then the only advice I can give you is to try to make yourself as good looking as possible. Get some muscle (a 6 pack absolutely makes a girl melt because very few guys have it) straight white teeth for a nice smile, naturally looking colored contacts if you don't have attractive eyes. Always stay well groomed with a nice edge up on the goatee or hair line. Pressed pants with the crease in the middle and starched shirts. Show off your muscles as much as you can because this really does grab a girls attention. If your pale, tan. If you have bad acne wear a little bit of make up powder to reduce the redness (not too much because then she'll know). Nice jewelry is also an eye grabber too. Like a nice watch and bracelet. Always make sure your body language shows nothing but confidence and make sure your tone of voice is always sexy, suave and smooth. Make sure your words are enticing and your vocabulary is top notch. Stay up to date on the news too and into the latest celebrity gossip. This will always give you something to talk about with your girl because chances are she'll be into all this. Just some tips from me

However, I do advise getting to know the girl as deep as you can before engaging in sexual intercourse or even kissing her for that matter, regardless of how desperate you get.

This video is a good example why:

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhmTaktRx93s7ec2QP

I'm saving it for Mr. Right...Get outta here! I mean, I even have met some really hot hunnies that do exactly what she does. Don't be fooled! Hell, Kim Kardashian is a good example of that.

Or you could do none of those things, become comfortable in your own skin, and find a girl who digs that. It really isn't that hard, confidence doesn't need a tan or makeup.


No but the physical attraction to get the girls attention in the first place does. Confidence can't replace ugliness lol


You just have to be an average guy and not be like hideous, attitude and personality does the rest.


Sometimes it does, it depends on her situation though. But if you're an average guy who's to say that a guy who's above average wouldn't take your girl? Just saying.

That the "above average" guy is most likely not anywhere close to the brains or experience an "average guy" can develop when it comes to dating women. Obviously it never hurts to have both, but relying on looks over actual social skills is asking to get your butt kicked if someone who knows what he's doing shows up.


I wasn't describing just looks, I was talking about looks with brains vs somebody who's average. Who would the girl rather be with in this case? The bolded section describes this particular situation well. But yeah, good loyal girls are out there. They're just few and far in between these days.

Guys who know their way around women are few and far, right. Any person is loyal if you play your cards right, that's where it comes back to social skills.

Edit: I'll make it simple.

a) Sexy hunk of meat at the bar.
b) Average hunk of meat at the bar who actively talks to women.

b) wins.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
BlazeFury01
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1460 Posts
January 29 2013 05:00 GMT
#1870
On January 29 2013 13:59 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 13:57 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:54 r.Evo wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:50 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:46 Zooper31 wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:46 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:40 farvacola wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:07 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On October 09 2011 15:47 Mr. Nefarious wrote:
Unfortunately, most of the better looking girls are extremely selfish and vain. Drop these girls, looks are only fun for the first month. Find the girl you find attractive emotionally as well as physically, despite what other people might say or think about her.


Actually they're not bro. If you have muscles, money and are good looking, it's not hard at all lol

If you aren't so good looking, then the only advice I can give you is to try to make yourself as good looking as possible. Get some muscle (a 6 pack absolutely makes a girl melt because very few guys have it) straight white teeth for a nice smile, naturally looking colored contacts if you don't have attractive eyes. Always stay well groomed with a nice edge up on the goatee or hair line. Pressed pants with the crease in the middle and starched shirts. Show off your muscles as much as you can because this really does grab a girls attention. If your pale, tan. If you have bad acne wear a little bit of make up powder to reduce the redness (not too much because then she'll know). Nice jewelry is also an eye grabber too. Like a nice watch and bracelet. Always make sure your body language shows nothing but confidence and make sure your tone of voice is always sexy, suave and smooth. Make sure your words are enticing and your vocabulary is top notch. Stay up to date on the news too and into the latest celebrity gossip. This will always give you something to talk about with your girl because chances are she'll be into all this. Just some tips from me

However, I do advise getting to know the girl as deep as you can before engaging in sexual intercourse or even kissing her for that matter, regardless of how desperate you get.

This video is a good example why:

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhmTaktRx93s7ec2QP

I'm saving it for Mr. Right...Get outta here! I mean, I even have met some really hot hunnies that do exactly what she does. Don't be fooled! Hell, Kim Kardashian is a good example of that.

Or you could do none of those things, become comfortable in your own skin, and find a girl who digs that. It really isn't that hard, confidence doesn't need a tan or makeup.


No but the physical attraction to get the girls attention in the first place does. Confidence can't replace ugliness lol


You just have to be an average guy and not be like hideous, attitude and personality does the rest.


Sometimes it does, it depends on her situation though. But if you're an average guy who's to say that a guy who's above average wouldn't take your girl? Just saying.

That the "above average" guy is most likely not anywhere close to the brains or experience an "average guy" can develop when it comes to dating women. Obviously it never hurts to have both, but relying on looks over actual social skills is asking to get your butt kicked if someone who knows what he's doing shows up.


I wasn't describing just looks, I was talking about looks with brains vs somebody who's average. Who would the girl rather be with in this case? The bolded section describes this particular situation well. But yeah, good loyal girls are out there. They're just few and far in between these days.

Guys who know their way around women are few and far, right. Any person is loyal if you play your cards right, that's where it comes back to social skills.


I agree.
BlazeFury01
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1460 Posts
January 29 2013 05:01 GMT
#1871
On January 29 2013 13:59 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 13:57 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:54 r.Evo wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:50 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:46 Zooper31 wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:46 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:40 farvacola wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:07 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On October 09 2011 15:47 Mr. Nefarious wrote:
Unfortunately, most of the better looking girls are extremely selfish and vain. Drop these girls, looks are only fun for the first month. Find the girl you find attractive emotionally as well as physically, despite what other people might say or think about her.


Actually they're not bro. If you have muscles, money and are good looking, it's not hard at all lol

If you aren't so good looking, then the only advice I can give you is to try to make yourself as good looking as possible. Get some muscle (a 6 pack absolutely makes a girl melt because very few guys have it) straight white teeth for a nice smile, naturally looking colored contacts if you don't have attractive eyes. Always stay well groomed with a nice edge up on the goatee or hair line. Pressed pants with the crease in the middle and starched shirts. Show off your muscles as much as you can because this really does grab a girls attention. If your pale, tan. If you have bad acne wear a little bit of make up powder to reduce the redness (not too much because then she'll know). Nice jewelry is also an eye grabber too. Like a nice watch and bracelet. Always make sure your body language shows nothing but confidence and make sure your tone of voice is always sexy, suave and smooth. Make sure your words are enticing and your vocabulary is top notch. Stay up to date on the news too and into the latest celebrity gossip. This will always give you something to talk about with your girl because chances are she'll be into all this. Just some tips from me

However, I do advise getting to know the girl as deep as you can before engaging in sexual intercourse or even kissing her for that matter, regardless of how desperate you get.

This video is a good example why:

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhmTaktRx93s7ec2QP

I'm saving it for Mr. Right...Get outta here! I mean, I even have met some really hot hunnies that do exactly what she does. Don't be fooled! Hell, Kim Kardashian is a good example of that.

Or you could do none of those things, become comfortable in your own skin, and find a girl who digs that. It really isn't that hard, confidence doesn't need a tan or makeup.


No but the physical attraction to get the girls attention in the first place does. Confidence can't replace ugliness lol


You just have to be an average guy and not be like hideous, attitude and personality does the rest.


Sometimes it does, it depends on her situation though. But if you're an average guy who's to say that a guy who's above average wouldn't take your girl? Just saying.

That the "above average" guy is most likely not anywhere close to the brains or experience an "average guy" can develop when it comes to dating women. Obviously it never hurts to have both, but relying on looks over actual social skills is asking to get your butt kicked if someone who knows what he's doing shows up.


I wasn't describing just looks, I was talking about looks with brains vs somebody who's average. Who would the girl rather be with in this case? The bolded section describes this particular situation well. But yeah, good loyal girls are out there. They're just few and far in between these days.

Guys who know their way around women are few and far, right. Any person is loyal if you play your cards right, that's where it comes back to social skills.

Edit: I'll make it simple.

a) Sexy hunk of meat at the bar.
b) Average hunk of meat at the bar who actively talks to women.

b) wins.


lol I like how you describe it as "hunk of meat" that's dope. I agree with you though.
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
January 29 2013 05:02 GMT
#1872
On January 29 2013 13:59 Suppressed wrote:
I'm 30, with very average looks and very average job. Basically i'm your "Average Joe". I'm single and have girlfriends in the past. I've recently dated someone but it just didn't work out for us. I find her interesting and i'm pretty sure its mutual. We even travelled together and dated multiple times. There were times we enjoyed each other's company but also times when we have quarrels that nobody is willing to give in. I could understand the fact that men and women are two different species and gentlemen should always (probably) give in even under the most ridiculous circumstance.

Example: During our travel in a foreign country, she insist direction A leads to place X. I look at the map she is holding and told her pretty gentlely but confidently that i do not think so. She questions me that i don't trust her. So i said ok "I trust you". And for the next 45 mins, we walk down direction A and stops only when we reach a dead end and she went speechless. I suggest to her: "follow me now, ok?". She went on a rampage and even nearly cried like i just bullied her or something. I've never said any of the above in any demanding or commanding tone and instead went as gentle as i could. In the end, i had to apologize (seriously i have no idea what i'm apologizing for) to stop her rampage. LOL?

But here is the issue i'm having a hard time convincing to myself: Is this shit really worth it? If yes, what can i do to change my mindset about it... or are there ways to go around it.

How many bros out there has been through such issues and come out of it?

It's clearly not worth it if you have to ask yourself if it's worth it.
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5711 Posts
January 29 2013 05:05 GMT
#1873
On January 29 2013 13:59 Suppressed wrote:
I'm 30, with very average looks and very average job. Basically i'm your "Average Joe". I'm single and have girlfriends in the past. I've recently dated someone but it just didn't work out for us. I find her interesting and i'm pretty sure its mutual. We even travelled together and dated multiple times. There were times we enjoyed each other's company but also times when we have quarrels that nobody is willing to give in. I could understand the fact that men and women are two different species and gentlemen should always (probably) give in even under the most ridiculous circumstance.

Example: During our travel in a foreign country, she insist direction A leads to place X. I look at the map she is holding and told her pretty gentlely but confidently that i do not think so. She questions me that i don't trust her. So i said ok "I trust you". And for the next 45 mins, we walk down direction A and stops only when we reach a dead end and she went speechless. I suggest to her: "follow me now, ok?". She went on a rampage and even nearly cried like i just bullied her or something. I've never said any of the above in any demanding or commanding tone and instead went as gentle as i could. In the end, i had to apologize (seriously i have no idea what i'm apologizing for) to stop her rampage. LOL?

But here is the issue i'm having a hard time convincing to myself: Is this shit really worth it? If yes, what can i do to change my mindset about it... or are there ways to go around it.

How many bros out there has been through such issues and come out of it?


Should've manned up and just explained it nicely which way was correct. If you are wrong use the old saying that guys don't need directions and you will find it without needing to ask for help lol.

She knew she was wrong and it's all her fault and then you brought it up that you were right, just tipped her over the edge and made her depressed. Gotta be more assertive and then reassuring that everything would be ok and it doesn't matter where you are as long as you are together to make her feel better etc.

Know which battles to fight and which to give in to so you don't ruin the relationship. Most of the time she's gonna win the arguement, or at least let her think that lol.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
January 29 2013 05:05 GMT
#1874
On January 29 2013 13:59 Suppressed wrote:
I'm 30, with very average looks and very average job. Basically i'm your "Average Joe". I'm single and have girlfriends in the past. I've recently dated someone but it just didn't work out for us. I find her interesting and i'm pretty sure its mutual. We even travelled together and dated multiple times. There were times we enjoyed each other's company but also times when we have quarrels that nobody is willing to give in. I could understand the fact that men and women are two different species and gentlemen should always (probably) give in even under the most ridiculous circumstance.

Example: During our travel in a foreign country, she insist direction A leads to place X. I look at the map she is holding and told her pretty gentlely but confidently that i do not think so. She questions me that i don't trust her. So i said ok "I trust you". And for the next 45 mins, we walk down direction A and stops only when we reach a dead end and she went speechless. I suggest to her: "follow me now, ok?". She went on a rampage and even nearly cried like i just bullied her or something. I've never said any of the above in any demanding or commanding tone and instead went as gentle as i could. In the end, i had to apologize (seriously i have no idea what i'm apologizing for) to stop her rampage. LOL?

But here is the issue i'm having a hard time convincing to myself: Is this shit really worth it? If yes, what can i do to change my mindset about it... or are there ways to go around it.

How many bros out there has been through such issues and come out of it?

"Of course I don't trust you when you're reading the map wrong." - there is a difference between being a gentlemen and sucking up to a woman. Her frame: "He disagrees with me which means he isn't trusting me." - Solid reframe: "I disagree with you because you're objectively wrong."

What you have done in the first place is to jump into her framing to avoid confrontation. Rampage after telling her to follow you afterwards? Lean back, say "Okay. If it takes longer than xyz you're responsible for getting me food and drinks. Deal?", at least you're getting something out of it then. =P
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
January 29 2013 05:15 GMT
#1875
On January 29 2013 13:56 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 13:54 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:52 KwarK wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:50 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:46 Zooper31 wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:46 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:40 farvacola wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:07 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On October 09 2011 15:47 Mr. Nefarious wrote:
Unfortunately, most of the better looking girls are extremely selfish and vain. Drop these girls, looks are only fun for the first month. Find the girl you find attractive emotionally as well as physically, despite what other people might say or think about her.


Actually they're not bro. If you have muscles, money and are good looking, it's not hard at all lol

If you aren't so good looking, then the only advice I can give you is to try to make yourself as good looking as possible. Get some muscle (a 6 pack absolutely makes a girl melt because very few guys have it) straight white teeth for a nice smile, naturally looking colored contacts if you don't have attractive eyes. Always stay well groomed with a nice edge up on the goatee or hair line. Pressed pants with the crease in the middle and starched shirts. Show off your muscles as much as you can because this really does grab a girls attention. If your pale, tan. If you have bad acne wear a little bit of make up powder to reduce the redness (not too much because then she'll know). Nice jewelry is also an eye grabber too. Like a nice watch and bracelet. Always make sure your body language shows nothing but confidence and make sure your tone of voice is always sexy, suave and smooth. Make sure your words are enticing and your vocabulary is top notch. Stay up to date on the news too and into the latest celebrity gossip. This will always give you something to talk about with your girl because chances are she'll be into all this. Just some tips from me

However, I do advise getting to know the girl as deep as you can before engaging in sexual intercourse or even kissing her for that matter, regardless of how desperate you get.

This video is a good example why:

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhmTaktRx93s7ec2QP

I'm saving it for Mr. Right...Get outta here! I mean, I even have met some really hot hunnies that do exactly what she does. Don't be fooled! Hell, Kim Kardashian is a good example of that.

Or you could do none of those things, become comfortable in your own skin, and find a girl who digs that. It really isn't that hard, confidence doesn't need a tan or makeup.


No but the physical attraction to get the girls attention in the first place does. Confidence can't replace ugliness lol


You just have to be an average guy and not be like hideous, attitude and personality does the rest.


Sometimes it does, it depends on her situation though. But if you're an average guy who's to say that a guy who's above average wouldn't take your girl? Just saying.

If she's your girl, nobody is taking her. If someone takes her, clearly wasn't your girl. Make her your girl and she won't give a shit about anyone else. If she's just waiting for someone better to come along then you've fucked up somewhere.


lol no doubt. But sometimes you don't even have to fuck up for her to be waiting for somebody better. It's just something that happens sometimes.


Then she was never your girl. She was using you basically. It seems you think girls are just looking for hunks of meat and will switch out whenever a better looking stalion comes along.

Hmmm, nah I agree with BlazeFury on this. I mean in an ideal world, your gf will only think about you and you will be sure she stays with u forever. This is what normally happen with a good relationship. But you have to consider the possibility of something going wrong so that you may not be the one and only to her forever. Especially if you live in a big city or somewhere that gives your gf the opportunity to meet a lot of peiple.

In my opinion, thinking of this possibility in itself is actually a first step to keep on being the one and only. If you think she will never be interested in any other guy, then that's were you might screw up actually, being too carelless about being the best.
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5711 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-29 05:22:39
January 29 2013 05:21 GMT
#1876
On January 29 2013 14:15 samurai80 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 13:56 Zooper31 wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:54 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:52 KwarK wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:50 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:46 Zooper31 wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:46 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:40 farvacola wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:07 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On October 09 2011 15:47 Mr. Nefarious wrote:
Unfortunately, most of the better looking girls are extremely selfish and vain. Drop these girls, looks are only fun for the first month. Find the girl you find attractive emotionally as well as physically, despite what other people might say or think about her.


Actually they're not bro. If you have muscles, money and are good looking, it's not hard at all lol

If you aren't so good looking, then the only advice I can give you is to try to make yourself as good looking as possible. Get some muscle (a 6 pack absolutely makes a girl melt because very few guys have it) straight white teeth for a nice smile, naturally looking colored contacts if you don't have attractive eyes. Always stay well groomed with a nice edge up on the goatee or hair line. Pressed pants with the crease in the middle and starched shirts. Show off your muscles as much as you can because this really does grab a girls attention. If your pale, tan. If you have bad acne wear a little bit of make up powder to reduce the redness (not too much because then she'll know). Nice jewelry is also an eye grabber too. Like a nice watch and bracelet. Always make sure your body language shows nothing but confidence and make sure your tone of voice is always sexy, suave and smooth. Make sure your words are enticing and your vocabulary is top notch. Stay up to date on the news too and into the latest celebrity gossip. This will always give you something to talk about with your girl because chances are she'll be into all this. Just some tips from me

However, I do advise getting to know the girl as deep as you can before engaging in sexual intercourse or even kissing her for that matter, regardless of how desperate you get.

This video is a good example why:

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhmTaktRx93s7ec2QP

I'm saving it for Mr. Right...Get outta here! I mean, I even have met some really hot hunnies that do exactly what she does. Don't be fooled! Hell, Kim Kardashian is a good example of that.

Or you could do none of those things, become comfortable in your own skin, and find a girl who digs that. It really isn't that hard, confidence doesn't need a tan or makeup.


No but the physical attraction to get the girls attention in the first place does. Confidence can't replace ugliness lol


You just have to be an average guy and not be like hideous, attitude and personality does the rest.


Sometimes it does, it depends on her situation though. But if you're an average guy who's to say that a guy who's above average wouldn't take your girl? Just saying.

If she's your girl, nobody is taking her. If someone takes her, clearly wasn't your girl. Make her your girl and she won't give a shit about anyone else. If she's just waiting for someone better to come along then you've fucked up somewhere.


lol no doubt. But sometimes you don't even have to fuck up for her to be waiting for somebody better. It's just something that happens sometimes.


Then she was never your girl. She was using you basically. It seems you think girls are just looking for hunks of meat and will switch out whenever a better looking stalion comes along.

Hmmm, nah I agree with BlazeFury on this. I mean in an ideal world, your gf will only think about you and you will be sure she stays with u forever. This is what normally happen with a good relationship. But you have to consider the possibility of something going wrong so that you may not be the one and only to her forever. Especially if you live in a big city or somewhere that gives your gf the opportunity to meet a lot of peiple.

In my opinion, thinking of this possibility in itself is actually a first step to keep on being the one and only. If you think she will never be interested in any other guy, then that's were you might screw up actually, being too carelless about being the best.


If you do something wrong and mess the relationship up thats one thing but if you are in a happy relationship together and shes happy theres is absolutely no reason to worry about her going off with some other dude. Unless you have trust issues this shouldn't be a problem keeping a girlfriend that is alrdy yours. She isn't going to leave you for another guy and if she does she was truly never the one in the first place.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
January 29 2013 05:29 GMT
#1877
On January 29 2013 14:21 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 14:15 samurai80 wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:56 Zooper31 wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:54 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:52 KwarK wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:50 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:46 Zooper31 wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:46 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:40 farvacola wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:07 BlazeFury01 wrote:
[quote]

Actually they're not bro. If you have muscles, money and are good looking, it's not hard at all lol

If you aren't so good looking, then the only advice I can give you is to try to make yourself as good looking as possible. Get some muscle (a 6 pack absolutely makes a girl melt because very few guys have it) straight white teeth for a nice smile, naturally looking colored contacts if you don't have attractive eyes. Always stay well groomed with a nice edge up on the goatee or hair line. Pressed pants with the crease in the middle and starched shirts. Show off your muscles as much as you can because this really does grab a girls attention. If your pale, tan. If you have bad acne wear a little bit of make up powder to reduce the redness (not too much because then she'll know). Nice jewelry is also an eye grabber too. Like a nice watch and bracelet. Always make sure your body language shows nothing but confidence and make sure your tone of voice is always sexy, suave and smooth. Make sure your words are enticing and your vocabulary is top notch. Stay up to date on the news too and into the latest celebrity gossip. This will always give you something to talk about with your girl because chances are she'll be into all this. Just some tips from me

However, I do advise getting to know the girl as deep as you can before engaging in sexual intercourse or even kissing her for that matter, regardless of how desperate you get.

This video is a good example why:

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhmTaktRx93s7ec2QP

I'm saving it for Mr. Right...Get outta here! I mean, I even have met some really hot hunnies that do exactly what she does. Don't be fooled! Hell, Kim Kardashian is a good example of that.

Or you could do none of those things, become comfortable in your own skin, and find a girl who digs that. It really isn't that hard, confidence doesn't need a tan or makeup.


No but the physical attraction to get the girls attention in the first place does. Confidence can't replace ugliness lol


You just have to be an average guy and not be like hideous, attitude and personality does the rest.


Sometimes it does, it depends on her situation though. But if you're an average guy who's to say that a guy who's above average wouldn't take your girl? Just saying.

If she's your girl, nobody is taking her. If someone takes her, clearly wasn't your girl. Make her your girl and she won't give a shit about anyone else. If she's just waiting for someone better to come along then you've fucked up somewhere.


lol no doubt. But sometimes you don't even have to fuck up for her to be waiting for somebody better. It's just something that happens sometimes.


Then she was never your girl. She was using you basically. It seems you think girls are just looking for hunks of meat and will switch out whenever a better looking stalion comes along.

Hmmm, nah I agree with BlazeFury on this. I mean in an ideal world, your gf will only think about you and you will be sure she stays with u forever. This is what normally happen with a good relationship. But you have to consider the possibility of something going wrong so that you may not be the one and only to her forever. Especially if you live in a big city or somewhere that gives your gf the opportunity to meet a lot of peiple.

In my opinion, thinking of this possibility in itself is actually a first step to keep on being the one and only. If you think she will never be interested in any other guy, then that's were you might screw up actually, being too carelless about being the best.


If you do something wrong and mess the relationship up thats one thing but if you are in a happy relationship together and shes happy theres is absolutely no reason to worry about her going off with some other dude. Unless you have trust issues this shouldn't be a problem keeping a girlfriend that is alrdy yours. She isn't going to leave you for another guy and if she does she was truly never the one in the first place.

Exactly. A cheater is going to cheat regardless of what you do. Worrying about it just causes unneeded stress in a relationship.
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
January 29 2013 05:30 GMT
#1878
On January 29 2013 13:59 Suppressed wrote:
I'm 30, with very average looks and very average job. Basically i'm your "Average Joe". I'm single and have girlfriends in the past. I've recently dated someone but it just didn't work out for us. I find her interesting and i'm pretty sure its mutual. We even travelled together and dated multiple times. There were times we enjoyed each other's company but also times when we have quarrels that nobody is willing to give in. I could understand the fact that men and women are two different species and gentlemen should always (probably) give in even under the most ridiculous circumstance.

Example: During our travel in a foreign country, she insist direction A leads to place X. I look at the map she is holding and told her pretty gentlely but confidently that i do not think so. She questions me that i don't trust her. So i said ok "I trust you". And for the next 45 mins, we walk down direction A and stops only when we reach a dead end and she went speechless. I suggest to her: "follow me now, ok?". She went on a rampage and even nearly cried like i just bullied her or something. I've never said any of the above in any demanding or commanding tone and instead went as gentle as i could. In the end, i had to apologize (seriously i have no idea what i'm apologizing for) to stop her rampage. LOL?

But here is the issue i'm having a hard time convincing to myself: Is this shit really worth it? If yes, what can i do to change my mindset about it... or are there ways to go around it.

How many bros out there has been through such issues and come out of it?

We're about the same age, it's funny I was with my last gf for like 5 years and I had so many of these quarrels with her. Especially the "seriously i have no idea what i'm apologizing for" I mean, THIS !

For example I was a bit angry at her because she forgot something, or because she lost my stuff, or anything she could have done wrong, so I tried to tell her gently, and in the end she got angry, doesn't ever apologize and of course, I end up being the one apologizing a lot, so that she stops her hystery and we can go back to peace.

I think that's what happen when from the start you're too kind to someone a bit self-centric with strong character. But if it's not in your nature to be more severe, then maybe it's better to give up with this kind of girls (this is the reason why we separated).
Suppressed
Profile Joined August 2011
11 Posts
January 29 2013 05:34 GMT
#1879
On January 29 2013 14:05 Zooper31 wrote:
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On January 29 2013 13:59 Suppressed wrote:
I'm 30, with very average looks and very average job. Basically i'm your "Average Joe". I'm single and have girlfriends in the past. I've recently dated someone but it just didn't work out for us. I find her interesting and i'm pretty sure its mutual. We even travelled together and dated multiple times. There were times we enjoyed each other's company but also times when we have quarrels that nobody is willing to give in. I could understand the fact that men and women are two different species and gentlemen should always (probably) give in even under the most ridiculous circumstance.

Example: During our travel in a foreign country, she insist direction A leads to place X. I look at the map she is holding and told her pretty gentlely but confidently that i do not think so. She questions me that i don't trust her. So i said ok "I trust you". And for the next 45 mins, we walk down direction A and stops only when we reach a dead end and she went speechless. I suggest to her: "follow me now, ok?". She went on a rampage and even nearly cried like i just bullied her or something. I've never said any of the above in any demanding or commanding tone and instead went as gentle as i could. In the end, i had to apologize (seriously i have no idea what i'm apologizing for) to stop her rampage. LOL?

But here is the issue i'm having a hard time convincing to myself: Is this shit really worth it? If yes, what can i do to change my mindset about it... or are there ways to go around it.

How many bros out there has been through such issues and come out of it?


Should've manned up and just explained it nicely which way was correct. If you are wrong use the old saying that guys don't need directions and you will find it without needing to ask for help lol.

She knew she was wrong and it's all her fault and then you brought it up that you were right, just tipped her over the edge and made her depressed. Gotta be more assertive and then reassuring that everything would be ok and it doesn't matter where you are as long as you are together to make her feel better etc.

Know which battles to fight and which to give in to so you don't ruin the relationship. Most of the time she's gonna win the arguement, or at least let her think that lol.


I can't tell her exactly which way was correct as we were just out from the sub station and i hasn't got the chance to think about it even. Though the fact is, i've serve the army before and generally speaking, i have very good sense of direction and will definitely figure out the way. Unfortunately, she insists to be in the driving seat.

You were right, i brought it up and made her depressed. In that sense, my bad. And she made us walk 45 mins down a direction for nothing...but im suppose to apologize? It is abit weird isn't? Honestly, the second before she went on rampage, i was thinking she was gonna apologize instead. LOL totally wrong. I didn't went so mushy to say "as long as we are together" but i did assure to her "everything is alright". I have a sinking feeling that my encounters with women in the future will be the same and they just cannot be logical. This sucks shit...
Gaylords.
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
January 29 2013 05:43 GMT
#1880
On January 29 2013 14:29 Dosey wrote:
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On January 29 2013 14:21 Zooper31 wrote:
On January 29 2013 14:15 samurai80 wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:56 Zooper31 wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:54 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:52 KwarK wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:50 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:46 Zooper31 wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:46 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:40 farvacola wrote:
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Or you could do none of those things, become comfortable in your own skin, and find a girl who digs that. It really isn't that hard, confidence doesn't need a tan or makeup.


No but the physical attraction to get the girls attention in the first place does. Confidence can't replace ugliness lol


You just have to be an average guy and not be like hideous, attitude and personality does the rest.


Sometimes it does, it depends on her situation though. But if you're an average guy who's to say that a guy who's above average wouldn't take your girl? Just saying.

If she's your girl, nobody is taking her. If someone takes her, clearly wasn't your girl. Make her your girl and she won't give a shit about anyone else. If she's just waiting for someone better to come along then you've fucked up somewhere.


lol no doubt. But sometimes you don't even have to fuck up for her to be waiting for somebody better. It's just something that happens sometimes.


Then she was never your girl. She was using you basically. It seems you think girls are just looking for hunks of meat and will switch out whenever a better looking stalion comes along.

Hmmm, nah I agree with BlazeFury on this. I mean in an ideal world, your gf will only think about you and you will be sure she stays with u forever. This is what normally happen with a good relationship. But you have to consider the possibility of something going wrong so that you may not be the one and only to her forever. Especially if you live in a big city or somewhere that gives your gf the opportunity to meet a lot of peiple.

In my opinion, thinking of this possibility in itself is actually a first step to keep on being the one and only. If you think she will never be interested in any other guy, then that's were you might screw up actually, being too carelless about being the best.


If you do something wrong and mess the relationship up thats one thing but if you are in a happy relationship together and shes happy theres is absolutely no reason to worry about her going off with some other dude. Unless you have trust issues this shouldn't be a problem keeping a girlfriend that is alrdy yours. She isn't going to leave you for another guy and if she does she was truly never the one in the first place.

Exactly. A cheater is going to cheat regardless of what you do. Worrying about it just causes unneeded stress in a relationship.

Well I basically agree, I mean I actually never had this kind of problem (or at least I'm pretty sure), but I think worrying about it can be good for your couple. Well I'm not the kind of guy who is gonna be stressed that much about that, but caring about it is still important so you keep on being romantic, handsome, etc...

I dunno what kind of girls you have met until now, I've been with a few japanese girls, one of them for a long time. Many of them have so unreal ideals. This is not making them bitches looking for "hunks of meat", but still it means you may not be 100% the ideal man for your girlfriend. Obviously they know their ideals are almost impossible to fulfill, also I believe they are not gonna cheat on you that easily, still shit happens.
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