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We are extremely close to shutting down this thread for the same reasons the PUA thread was shut down. While some of the time this thread contains actual discussion with people asking help and people giving nice advice, it often gets derailed by rubbish that should not be here. The moderation team will be trying to steer this thread in a different direction from now on.

Posts of the following nature are banned:
1) ANYTHING regarding PUA. If your post contains the words 'alpha' or 'beta' or anything of that sort please don't hit post.
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4) One night stands and random sex. These are basically brags that invariably devolve into gender role discussions and misogynistic comments.

Last chance, guys. This thread is for dating advice and sharing dating stories. While gender roles, sociocultural norms, and our biological imperative to reproduce are all tangentially related, these subjects are not the main purpose of the thread. Please AVOID these discussions. If you want to discuss them at length, go to PMs or start a blog. If you disagree with someone's ideologies, state that you disagree with them and why they won't work from a dating standpoint and move on. We will not tolerate any lengthy derailments that aren't directly about dating.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8649 Posts
February 02 2015 00:42 GMT
#11521
ultimately i think you guys need to find a way to work things out so that you can be together. im of the opinion that long distance relationships do not work. you may be ok with it now and may have been ok with it for years, but you wont be ok with it for years to come when you start to want other things in life (such as marriage, kids etc).
you should probably find out where you and your girlfriend see yourselves in 5 years or whatever and ask yourselves whether that life would be possible if you guys stay apart the whole time.
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
February 02 2015 02:05 GMT
#11522
On February 02 2015 09:08 amaDeus wrote:
i need some advice fellas i've been in a relationship with my girlfriend for ~4 years. its a long distance (~250km, we see each other every second weekend and when we both have vacation from university) relationship and its working out fine. we never had any real trouble or big fights, as we are both too lazy or not willing to fight and rather just say "it's my own fault" and we try to solve the issue. she's like the perfect fit for me. same humour, pretty, kinda thinks the same way, accepts my hobbies,...

she lives in another part from germany cause her subject can only be studied there. i have to stay in my hometown too. it won't get better (regarding long distance) soon, because when she finishes its not sure if she can get a job near me (shes going to be a teacher) and for me its best to stay here cause most of the big companys, in which i think i want to work are located here.

i love her. i'm just..envious of relationships in which the ppl see each other more often. the fact that shes absent for half a year doing an semester abroad doesnt make it better - it's bearable tho. i don't really know how i should describe it. i don't know where i should draw the line between my love for her and the wish to have a partner that is 'in range'.

i'm afraid to throw away a good relationship that lasted more than 4 years and ending up regretting it.

anyone got an advice for me to find out where to draw the line and to know for myself what i want? should i talk to her about it? i spoke to her about it ~1y ago, but well - we can't change the situation - and her being absent (cant even talk about that in rl) won't really help my decision and only make her sad for the moment that i have these thoughts.

the decision is not urgent, i have enough time to think about it. Just need a bit help.


I think a gf of such a long time should accomodate her life within reason to be with you (i.e search for a job near you)
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5710 Posts
February 02 2015 02:12 GMT
#11523
On February 02 2015 11:05 GoTuNk! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2015 09:08 amaDeus wrote:
i need some advice fellas i've been in a relationship with my girlfriend for ~4 years. its a long distance (~250km, we see each other every second weekend and when we both have vacation from university) relationship and its working out fine. we never had any real trouble or big fights, as we are both too lazy or not willing to fight and rather just say "it's my own fault" and we try to solve the issue. she's like the perfect fit for me. same humour, pretty, kinda thinks the same way, accepts my hobbies,...

she lives in another part from germany cause her subject can only be studied there. i have to stay in my hometown too. it won't get better (regarding long distance) soon, because when she finishes its not sure if she can get a job near me (shes going to be a teacher) and for me its best to stay here cause most of the big companys, in which i think i want to work are located here.

i love her. i'm just..envious of relationships in which the ppl see each other more often. the fact that shes absent for half a year doing an semester abroad doesnt make it better - it's bearable tho. i don't really know how i should describe it. i don't know where i should draw the line between my love for her and the wish to have a partner that is 'in range'.

i'm afraid to throw away a good relationship that lasted more than 4 years and ending up regretting it.

anyone got an advice for me to find out where to draw the line and to know for myself what i want? should i talk to her about it? i spoke to her about it ~1y ago, but well - we can't change the situation - and her being absent (cant even talk about that in rl) won't really help my decision and only make her sad for the moment that i have these thoughts.

the decision is not urgent, i have enough time to think about it. Just need a bit help.


I think a gf of such a long time should accomodate her life within reason to be with you (i.e search for a job near you)


Or vice versa. It basically comes down to who is more willing to sacrifice their career more to keep the relationship going and move it to the next level.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
amaDeus
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany205 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-02 02:31:36
February 02 2015 02:23 GMT
#11524
On February 02 2015 11:05 GoTuNk! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2015 09:08 amaDeus wrote:
[...]


I think a gf of such a long time should accomodate her life within reason to be with you (i.e search for a job near you)


it's not that she doesnt want, it's more of a she can't. to be precise bavaria has some special rules for teachers (only several subjects can be combined) whereas in the rest of germany one can study and combine subjects as one like. she couldnt study her prefered subjects in bavaria so she had to change to the nearest state. bavarias system is bs in that regard. she has a chance to teach in bavaria, but we cant calculate with that. it can take no time or more than 5-10y. kinda random.

i want to finish my studies in bavaria as i got on a (kinda) renowned university and got family + friends here, she has family + some old friends here too. and that (+ maybe do a doctor or work in one of the mentioned companies) makes it hard.

so it's either wait for time to pass and continue LDR until the day comes we can move in somewhere together - not knowing if we can live together without any problems (some problems first occur when you move in together..so the legend is told)
or quit it.

both solutions dont seem that promising. :| a) i dont know if i can hold through a LDR another 3-5y or b) throwing away the maybe best relationship i could possibly get.

i'm sorry i cant really describe it the way i want.

/e:
moving to the others place at this point in time would basically set our 'job-getting-progress' to zero. moving before finishing the studies is therefore not a possibility for us.

/e2:
i know there's no real answer to this problem. im just hoping to find some help how i can decide for myself what i want.
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
February 02 2015 02:55 GMT
#11525
On February 02 2015 11:23 amaDeus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2015 11:05 GoTuNk! wrote:
On February 02 2015 09:08 amaDeus wrote:
[...]


I think a gf of such a long time should accomodate her life within reason to be with you (i.e search for a job near you)


it's not that she doesnt want, it's more of a she can't. to be precise bavaria has some special rules for teachers (only several subjects can be combined) whereas in the rest of germany one can study and combine subjects as one like. she couldnt study her prefered subjects in bavaria so she had to change to the nearest state. bavarias system is bs in that regard. she has a chance to teach in bavaria, but we cant calculate with that. it can take no time or more than 5-10y. kinda random.

i want to finish my studies in bavaria as i got on a (kinda) renowned university and got family + friends here, she has family + some old friends here too. and that (+ maybe do a doctor or work in one of the mentioned companies) makes it hard.

so it's either wait for time to pass and continue LDR until the day comes we can move in somewhere together - not knowing if we can live together without any problems (some problems first occur when you move in together..so the legend is told)
or quit it.

both solutions dont seem that promising. :| a) i dont know if i can hold through a LDR another 3-5y or b) throwing away the maybe best relationship i could possibly get.

i'm sorry i cant really describe it the way i want.

/e:
moving to the others place at this point in time would basically set our 'job-getting-progress' to zero. moving before finishing the studies is therefore not a possibility for us.

/e2:
i know there's no real answer to this problem. im just hoping to find some help how i can decide for myself what i want.


Tough situation. I think by when you both finish your studies you should be clear wether you want her to move in close/near you or not and understand it's ok to tell her to postpone her career ambitions if you geniunely want to be with her.
amaDeus
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany205 Posts
February 02 2015 03:04 GMT
#11526
On February 02 2015 11:55 GoTuNk! wrote:
Tough situation. I think by when you both finish your studies you should be clear wether you want her to move in close/near you or not and understand it's ok to tell her to postpone her career ambitions if you geniunely want to be with her.


Sounds kinda selfish, I think I wouldn't want to walk this way. if she wants to postpone it she must make that decision 100% on her own - and I don't know if we get to that point.
my problem is that i dont know if i can stand this till end of studies.
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4782 Posts
February 02 2015 03:25 GMT
#11527
Whoever makes a sacrifice for the other has to make that decision absolutely must do so on his/her own accord. You can talk about the stuff, but in the end neither of you can pressure the other as it can only lead to potential regrets being targeted towards the other. I do however think it is important that you talk together about it.
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
February 02 2015 03:43 GMT
#11528
On February 02 2015 12:04 amaDeus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2015 11:55 GoTuNk! wrote:
Tough situation. I think by when you both finish your studies you should be clear wether you want her to move in close/near you or not and understand it's ok to tell her to postpone her career ambitions if you geniunely want to be with her.


Sounds kinda selfish, I think I wouldn't want to walk this way. if she wants to postpone it she must make that decision 100% on her own - and I don't know if we get to that point.
my problem is that i dont know if i can stand this till end of studies.


It's not selfish at all. If you really want something more serious you have to demand what's necessary from her and provide what you believe is correct, you have to lead the relationship. What she does is up to her.

My point is that I get the feeling you think it's incorrect to demand what you want from your girlfriend. It's not.
amaDeus
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany205 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-02 03:56:05
February 02 2015 03:55 GMT
#11529
On February 02 2015 12:43 GoTuNk! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2015 12:04 amaDeus wrote:
On February 02 2015 11:55 GoTuNk! wrote:
Tough situation. I think by when you both finish your studies you should be clear wether you want her to move in close/near you or not and understand it's ok to tell her to postpone her career ambitions if you geniunely want to be with her.


Sounds kinda selfish, I think I wouldn't want to walk this way. if she wants to postpone it she must make that decision 100% on her own - and I don't know if we get to that point.
my problem is that i dont know if i can stand this till end of studies.


It's not selfish at all. If you really want something more serious you have to demand what's necessary from her and provide what you believe is correct, you have to lead the relationship. What she does is up to her.

My point is that I get the feeling you think it's incorrect to demand what you want from your girlfriend. It's not.


i dont think its incorrect to demand anything from her, but i think she has the same right to demand that from me. which leaves us in the same spot.

On February 02 2015 12:25 Ghostcom wrote:
Whoever makes a sacrifice for the other has to make that decision absolutely must do so on his/her own accord. You can talk about the stuff, but in the end neither of you can pressure the other as it can only lead to potential regrets being targeted towards the other. I do however think it is important that you talk together about it.


i think you're right..just wanted some other opinions on this stuff.

thank you guys for the answers so far
maartendq
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium3115 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-02 15:16:53
February 02 2015 15:14 GMT
#11530
On February 02 2015 11:12 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2015 11:05 GoTuNk! wrote:
On February 02 2015 09:08 amaDeus wrote:
i need some advice fellas i've been in a relationship with my girlfriend for ~4 years. its a long distance (~250km, we see each other every second weekend and when we both have vacation from university) relationship and its working out fine. we never had any real trouble or big fights, as we are both too lazy or not willing to fight and rather just say "it's my own fault" and we try to solve the issue. she's like the perfect fit for me. same humour, pretty, kinda thinks the same way, accepts my hobbies,...

she lives in another part from germany cause her subject can only be studied there. i have to stay in my hometown too. it won't get better (regarding long distance) soon, because when she finishes its not sure if she can get a job near me (shes going to be a teacher) and for me its best to stay here cause most of the big companys, in which i think i want to work are located here.

i love her. i'm just..envious of relationships in which the ppl see each other more often. the fact that shes absent for half a year doing an semester abroad doesnt make it better - it's bearable tho. i don't really know how i should describe it. i don't know where i should draw the line between my love for her and the wish to have a partner that is 'in range'.

i'm afraid to throw away a good relationship that lasted more than 4 years and ending up regretting it.

anyone got an advice for me to find out where to draw the line and to know for myself what i want? should i talk to her about it? i spoke to her about it ~1y ago, but well - we can't change the situation - and her being absent (cant even talk about that in rl) won't really help my decision and only make her sad for the moment that i have these thoughts.

the decision is not urgent, i have enough time to think about it. Just need a bit help.


I think a gf of such a long time should accomodate her life within reason to be with you (i.e search for a job near you)


Or vice versa. It basically comes down to who is more willing to sacrifice their career more to keep the relationship going and move it to the next level.

I agree. You basically have to decide which is more important to you: your relationship or your career. Long distance does not work out if both parties refuse to accomodate each other in some way.

Also, 250km is barely a 3 hour drive. Not really all that long-distance to be honest. I don't know your situation, but if I had a car I'd be driving to her every Friday evening and leaving again Sunday night.
SwizzY
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1549 Posts
February 02 2015 21:11 GMT
#11531
On February 01 2015 03:44 Shotcoder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2015 19:29 evilfatsh1t wrote:
well i think the 'waiting out bit' has already passed. after a period of you 'waiting it out' she sent you a text and im guessing you didnt playfully talk back about her not talking to you, you outright shot her down.
i dont know how close you guys were and what kind of girl she is, but theres every chance that she doesnt give a crap about you anymore. if thats the case then waiting any further isnt gonna do jack but make the chances of you fixing this situation slimmer.
however, i would really question whether she and the rest of your friends are worth swallowing your pride for. the fact that not one of your friends in the group seems to be sticking up for you is pretty eyebrow raising to me, solely because you had a little spat with the girl. from what it looks like to me, the rest of your friends arent even being impartial (which they should be, because they werent involved), but theyre just taking her side. some friends they are


This man hit the nail on the head. Found out my "friends" were shit talking me to her before the whole incident happened anyways. Guess who getting with her now!? Not worth my time. Back to the old grind.


Holy shit thats so scummy I had to log in and post so. I guess context is important, but I really hope you listen to an internet bro and punch your "friend" in the dick
All that glitters is not gold, all that wander are not lost, the old that is strong does not wither, deep roots are not reached by frost.
Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-03 00:18:49
February 03 2015 00:15 GMT
#11532
Some girl told me to go to a concert with her when we were both drunk and I couldn't take her back to my place. And then the next two days she texted me about that stuff so I assume she still wants to go. I've never gone to a big edm concert before with lots of young people dancing so I don't know what to expect, but that's not the real problem.

I am confused whether I am going just with her (on like a date-ish thing) or if she is just inviting me along with a group, and I don't know how to phrase that question without potentially making it seem like I'm coming on too strong. It's not a big deal either way to me but I'm at a loss when it comes to phrasing and I need to know soon to see if my friend should order a ticket.

I'm thinking of just saying "How many people are you going with?" but I feel like then maybe I'll make her feel bad if she isn't going with anybody other than me and she intended it to be just us.
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5710 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-03 00:33:21
February 03 2015 00:31 GMT
#11533
On February 03 2015 09:15 Chocolate wrote:
Some girl told me to go to a concert with her when we were both drunk and I couldn't take her back to my place. And then the next two days she texted me about that stuff so I assume she still wants to go. I've never gone to a big edm concert before with lots of young people dancing so I don't know what to expect, but that's not the real problem.

I am confused whether I am going just with her (on like a date-ish thing) or if she is just inviting me along with a group, and I don't know how to phrase that question without potentially making it seem like I'm coming on too strong. It's not a big deal either way to me but I'm at a loss when it comes to phrasing and I need to know soon to see if my friend should order a ticket.

I'm thinking of just saying "How many people are you going with?" but I feel like then maybe I'll make her feel bad if she isn't going with anybody other than me and she intended it to be just us.


If you want to go alone with her there definitely don't ask how many people she's going with, she will instantly start looking for people to go with if she wasn't planning it. Is she riding along with you perhaps? If not ask if she wants to, she may decline because she's alrdy riding with others maybe. Might be one way to fish out whose going or not. Otherwise just plain up ask her "so is it just us going or are we meeting some friends there" or "so my friend kinda wants to go to this concert but I don't know if it was just us going or not"
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17984 Posts
February 03 2015 00:32 GMT
#11534
On February 03 2015 09:15 Chocolate wrote:
Some girl told me to go to a concert with her when we were both drunk and I couldn't take her back to my place. And then the next two days she texted me about that stuff so I assume she still wants to go. I've never gone to a big edm concert before with lots of young people dancing so I don't know what to expect, but that's not the real problem.

I am confused whether I am going just with her (on like a date-ish thing) or if she is just inviting me along with a group, and I don't know how to phrase that question without potentially making it seem like I'm coming on too strong. It's not a big deal either way to me but I'm at a loss when it comes to phrasing and I need to know soon to see if my friend should order a ticket.

I'm thinking of just saying "How many people are you going with?" but I feel like then maybe I'll make her feel bad if she isn't going with anybody other than me and she intended it to be just us.

Seems like a pretty simple solution if you're up for either. Go, and find out on the spot.
joshie0808
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1023 Posts
February 03 2015 00:32 GMT
#11535
On February 03 2015 09:15 Chocolate wrote:
Some girl told me to go to a concert with her when we were both drunk and I couldn't take her back to my place. And then the next two days she texted me about that stuff so I assume she still wants to go. I've never gone to a big edm concert before with lots of young people dancing so I don't know what to expect, but that's not the real problem.

I am confused whether I am going just with her (on like a date-ish thing) or if she is just inviting me along with a group, and I don't know how to phrase that question without potentially making it seem like I'm coming on too strong. It's not a big deal either way to me but I'm at a loss when it comes to phrasing and I need to know soon to see if my friend should order a ticket.

I'm thinking of just saying "How many people are you going with?" but I feel like then maybe I'll make her feel bad if she isn't going with anybody other than me and she intended it to be just us.


You can phrase it like, "know anyone else who'll be there?"
Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-03 00:48:11
February 03 2015 00:47 GMT
#11536
@acrofales But then my friend can't go if she's with a big group. If it's her and a lot of her friends I'd like to have one of my good friends there too in case they decide to do their own thing or something and I don't have to awkwardly tag along
@joshie0808 Well yeah she probably will but that doesn't mean she's going with them per se
@zooper I like your second one, I think I'll do that, BUT

I really want it to be just us though because we are going to have a MegaDopeMegaAwesome time and I wouldn't want to have to worry about other people. But I don't know if she wants that just because it's an edm concert or for other reasons. We'll see I guess
B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
February 03 2015 06:36 GMT
#11537
On February 03 2015 09:32 joshie0808 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2015 09:15 Chocolate wrote:
Some girl told me to go to a concert with her when we were both drunk and I couldn't take her back to my place. And then the next two days she texted me about that stuff so I assume she still wants to go. I've never gone to a big edm concert before with lots of young people dancing so I don't know what to expect, but that's not the real problem.

I am confused whether I am going just with her (on like a date-ish thing) or if she is just inviting me along with a group, and I don't know how to phrase that question without potentially making it seem like I'm coming on too strong. It's not a big deal either way to me but I'm at a loss when it comes to phrasing and I need to know soon to see if my friend should order a ticket.

I'm thinking of just saying "How many people are you going with?" but I feel like then maybe I'll make her feel bad if she isn't going with anybody other than me and she intended it to be just us.


You can phrase it like, "know anyone else who'll be there?"

How about not fucking around too much and just say: I hope it's just gonna be you and me? (say it with a smile and not quivering insecurity) And let her know you are pleased if she says yes and act nonchalant when she says shes bringing her other friends.

Seriously I get that you might be insecure but beating around the bush and asking vague questions is only going to make her become even less confident and feel like she SHOULD invite someone else. You have to take away the "weirdness" of being alone with her.
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
February 03 2015 08:45 GMT
#11538
Or you can just chill and find out when you go.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17984 Posts
February 03 2015 14:10 GMT
#11539
On February 03 2015 09:47 Chocolate wrote:
@acrofales But then my friend can't go if she's with a big group. If it's her and a lot of her friends I'd like to have one of my good friends there too in case they decide to do their own thing or something and I don't have to awkwardly tag along
@joshie0808 Well yeah she probably will but that doesn't mean she's going with them per se
@zooper I like your second one, I think I'll do that, BUT

I really want it to be just us though because we are going to have a MegaDopeMegaAwesome time and I wouldn't want to have to worry about other people. But I don't know if she wants that just because it's an edm concert or for other reasons. We'll see I guess


She invited you along. If you feel like you are an awkward addition to the group, you say your goodbyes and leave. You don't need your friend along.

If your friend really wants to go to the party and wasn't just doing it as a favour to help a buddy out, tell him to find some other people, go with them and you might meet him there.
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February 03 2015 19:58 GMT
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EDM concerts are the best. Just chill and have a good time. She'll like you
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
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