EPTI'll second that. Ratigan has come a ways. Surprising he is still on MSNBC at this point. Cenk down , Olberman down. As these events grow, so is the pressure from the other end.
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BioNova
United States598 Posts
I'll second that. Ratigan has come a ways. Surprising he is still on MSNBC at this point. Cenk down , Olberman down. As these events grow, so is the pressure from the other end. | ||
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Traeon
Austria366 Posts
That aside, an estimated 200000 protesters were present. | ||
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radiatoren
Denmark1907 Posts
Well wishes to the romans from peaceful Denmark. May the riots stop and the upwards of 200,000 protesters get peaceful protests! Edit: Danish media has raised the number hospitalized to 70 and 3 of those are in critical condition! | ||
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ey215
United States546 Posts
On October 16 2011 01:05 TanGeng wrote: It's only natural with the "too big to fail" doctrine. TBTF naturally translates into "too little to care," and the little guy gets ignored. OWS is couple years, too late. And OWS does have some socialist elements that would have been entirely supportive of a bailout-and-nationalise, but that is only one segment among many of the protesters. It's hard to see a unifying principle of OWS except for anger against financial houses. It'd be interesting to know if there are some Tea Party/OWS crossover attendees because there are segments of each movement that espouse similar sentiments. I've been pretty silent on this one, mainly because I'm a supporter of both issues. I agree there is a very natural crossover between the Tea Party movement and OWS, however when the Democratic party/Labor unions decided they were going to co-op OWS I started to have an issue. My hope is that he OWS crowd has the wherewithal to resist the takeover by those groups (who had a big hand in the mess we're in as well). | ||
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radiatoren
Denmark1907 Posts
Happening now. Twenty-three people entered CitiBank in protest to close their accounts. Two people were allowed to leave the building after successfully closing their accounts. One was approached by an undercover police officer and then arrested. The remaining twenty-one people inside were then locked in until police arrived on scene and placed them all under arrest. It is unconfirmed that they were charged with disorderly conduct. http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread764701/pg1 Yes it sounds pretty surreal and CitiBank denies any knowledge of this happening. However it has allegedly been caught on stream, with many thousand viewers! Ouch! | ||
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XupinatoR
Spain125 Posts
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GizmoPT
Portugal3040 Posts
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
On October 15 2011 14:33 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Again a white shirt: Holy shit, I just randomly saw this on youtube while browsing various videos. How can they allow this to happen? | ||
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dudeman001
United States2412 Posts
On October 16 2011 04:27 radiatoren wrote: The protesters are smelling blood right now. The first real target seems to be CitiBank after what looks like a very bad stunt from their NYC office. http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread764701/pg1 Yes it sounds pretty surreal and CitiBank denies any knowledge of this happening. However it has allegedly been caught on stream, with many thousand viewers! Ouch! http://online.wsj.com/article/AP90d793c347f8436a99652195cff19b0c.html NEW YORK — Police say they have arrested 24 people at a rally related to the Occupy Wall Street demonstrations in New York City. The arrests took place Saturday afternoon at a Citibank branch near Manhattan's Washington Square Park, following an orderly march from the Occupy encampment in the financial district. Several protesters had entered the bank to close their accounts in protest of the role big banks played in the nation's financial crisis. Police say most of the people arrested were detained for trespassing after they ignored a request by the bank to leave. A few were arrested outside the bank. Police say they are accused of disorderly conduct and resisting arrest. Oh yeah, what a covered up conspiracy. /sarcasm | ||
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
Classy. | ||
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radiatoren
Denmark1907 Posts
On October 16 2011 05:36 dudeman001 wrote: http://online.wsj.com/article/AP90d793c347f8436a99652195cff19b0c.html Oh yeah, what a covered up conspiracy. /sarcasm It is kind of unusual to trap people inside the bank, when the primary reason for arrest is trespassing and "ignoring a request to leave". Would seem to defeat the purpose of requesting them to leave? Why not have the etique to call the police, tell the protesters you have called the police and wait for them to leave or the police to arrive. It was said the first police-officers were in civil clothes anyway... | ||
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GizmoPT
Portugal3040 Posts
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archonOOid
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semantics
10040 Posts
On October 16 2011 06:39 archonOOid wrote: the protesters needs to get their heads occupied by other thoughts! there is only one working economic system. greed is good or as the star trek fans might say greed is eternal. The pursuit of more money is the driving force for every human being. When it comes to bankers they are keeping the economic system going and ensuring that there is a great deal of money in circulation. I don't mind a banker that makes a great deal of money because I'm not jealous. your statement says they will try to make money no matter what, so taxing and regulation is a non issue as long as they can continue to make money they will do it. And your statement has nothing to do with removing money from politics. | ||
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DeepElemBlues
United States5080 Posts
http://newyorkpost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/mike_pols_lowered_the_broom_AqacgvxD6OUWtGrgu0SiXN “My understanding is Brookfield [Properties] got lots of calls from many elected officials threatening them and saying if you don’t stop this, we’ll make your life more difficult,” the mayor said on his weekly radio show, referring to the company that owns the plaza. “If those elected officials had spent half as much time trying to promote the city to get jobs to come here, we would [be further along] towards answering the concerns of the protesters. I’m told they were inundated by lots of elected officials.” It is kind of unusual to trap people inside the bank, when the primary reason for arrest is trespassing and "ignoring a request to leave". Would seem to defeat the purpose of requesting them to leave? Why not have the etique to call the police, tell the protesters you have called the police and wait for them to leave or the police to arrive. It was said the first police-officers were in civil clothes anyway... No business is obligated to allow you into their business with the purpose of pulling a propaganda stunt against their business and then just let you leave scot-free. You can write them a letter, call on the phone, do it online, or even walk in and simply close your account with no fuss. Those are the limits of your rights. Those rights do not include trying to harm the business by exercising the rights you do have in an improper fashion on their own property! | ||
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radiatoren
Denmark1907 Posts
On October 16 2011 08:03 DeepElemBlues wrote: So apparently there is a bit of controversy over the decision to postpone cleaning Zuccotti Park, according to Mayor Bloomberg and the always ready to do a hit piece on anyone Post: http://newyorkpost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/mike_pols_lowered_the_broom_AqacgvxD6OUWtGrgu0SiXN No business is obligated to allow you into their business with the purpose of pulling a propaganda stunt against their business and then just let you leave scot-free. You can write them a letter, call on the phone, do it online, or even walk in and simply close your account with no fuss. Those are the limits of your rights. Those rights do not include trying to harm the business by exercising the rights you do have in an improper fashion on their own property! No, I completely agree with that statement. However, they know the protests have the banks as one of the primary targets and they also know that many people support the message from the protests and/or even participate. Being so rigid in their actions they are painting a cross-hair on their business as one of the "evil" banks in the eyes ot the protesters. I think that is a bad business-decision, since it at least won't resound well with the protesters and thereby with that part of the public. They may loose business on that account. | ||
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Cytokinesis
Canada330 Posts
On October 16 2011 08:03 DeepElemBlues wrote: So apparently there is a bit of controversy over the decision to postpone cleaning Zuccotti Park, according to Mayor Bloomberg and the always ready to do a hit piece on anyone Post: http://newyorkpost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/mike_pols_lowered_the_broom_AqacgvxD6OUWtGrgu0SiXN No business is obligated to allow you into their business with the purpose of pulling a propaganda stunt against their business and then just let you leave scot-free. You can write them a letter, call on the phone, do it online, or even walk in and simply close your account with no fuss. Those are the limits of your rights. Those rights do not include trying to harm the business by exercising the rights you do have in an improper fashion on their own property! Will just say that this line is 100% contradictory and doesn't make any sense what-so-ever. You are saying that they have rights but not the right to exercise those rights, in which case they have no rights. There is no 'improper use' of rights, if there was it wouldn't be called a right. To clarify, you are saying 'you have rights...under circumstances. If you don't follow the circumstances your rights are revoked.' Circumstances in this case being being obnoxious in a bank while trying to close your account. On October 16 2011 06:39 archonOOid wrote: the protesters needs to get their heads occupied by other thoughts! there is only one working economic system. greed is good or as the star trek fans might say greed is eternal. The pursuit of more money is the driving force for every human being. When it comes to bankers they are keeping the economic system going and ensuring that there is a great deal of money in circulation. I don't mind a banker that makes a great deal of money because I'm not jealous. This is so wrong I don't even know where to begin. I, quite frankly, find the bolded part incredibly offensive and ridiculously ignorant. Mostly because it has been proven wrong and wrong again, and not only that--but money is quite a new innovation in the history of mankind. What was the driving force before money? Yes human greed is a problem, but money is just a small portion of greed. | ||
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setzer
United States3284 Posts
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nautx99
Canada13 Posts
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Logo
United States7542 Posts
On October 16 2011 02:22 BioNova wrote: I'll second that. Ratigan has come a ways. Surprising he is still on MSNBC at this point. Cenk down , Olberman down. As these events grow, so is the pressure from the other end. Wow awesome video/rant. | ||
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